Hi There Marie, My Thomas Pennington (Family Grp. 9) was born 24 Feb. 1782 in Cecil, MD. His wife in 1817 was Margaret (Rhoda) McKeever. They married in Hampshire County, Va (which is now W.VA). The probate records 25 May 1857 mentions children, my 4th great grandfather Julius G. Pennington, William Paul, Isaac J., Sarah and Mary Catherine also a grandson Alfred Anderson. However it does not mention his wife, Margaret. Of course - that would make our job too easy, huh? Your Thomas could be a cousin or uncle according to the time line. Do you have a date or place of birth for your Thomas and Miss Beall in MD ? For some time now, I have been watching Family Groups 9, 29, 21 and 19 as possible connections - but have not been able to narrow it down in some families. There could be other groups as well. Some of these Family Groups are also mentioned in the DNA study as possible links and is all the more reason to use our mailing list for communicating to our cousins. All of these groups share many other surnames besides Pennington in this same area of MD. Our problem has been the first names - before about 1860 the same first names were given to cousins in the same families and matched uncles, nephews, cousins and grandparents. I think they were in a race to see how many Thomas, William and John's they could name their children. :>) It is almost impossible to sort them out. But I just keep plugging away. Let's do some more sharing notes for these two. Maybe if we stay focused on just these two Thomas', something will pop out. Talk soon and thanks for posting.... Rene'e Davis, CFO ARD, Family Groups PRA - Group 9 Pennington Research Association, Inc. www.penningtonresearch.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "mphumes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > Renee, > In your note to Cheryl you mentioned a Thomas Pennington. Can you tell > m,e what group he would be plaaced? I am searching for Thomas Pennington > and Leatha Beall the both were in MD at one time. They were married in NC > in 1796. Could this ring a bell with you or the years. Group # 29 > > Thanks for any help. > Marie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Spaulding <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 1:18 PM > Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > Hi. I still have the plot plan and so forth for the Pennington Greenmount > > Cemetery Plot that I did last year. Will you have the ability on the new > > web site to gather documents and photos and make them available to > > everyone? If so, I can post the entire map and the individual grave > cards. > > Cher > > > > At 10:18 AM 01/03/2004 -0700, you wrote: > > >Hi Cheryl, > > > I certainly understand your frustration, I can't tell you how many > > >places I posted my relative to in hopes of finding someone. I was just > > >stubborn and probably somewhat of a pest until I found a will probated in > MD > > >for my grandfather Thomas. Then I reposted that information to the PRA > list > > >and got lucky in finding my cousins. While finding a Family Group in the > > >PRA to belong is helpful and the cousins that share a common ancestor > makes > > >everyone's tree grow like > > >it is on hormones or something. It is also important for anyone tracking > > >ancestors to continue working on the person they are stuck on. If you > find > > >them on some census, some year in someplace, follow-up in the same area > for > > >any probate records. While you are there, look for the marriage and go > back > > >to the census for the other surname. Many times I found missing family > > >members and grandparents because they were living with the married > inlaws. > > > Keep posting to the lists !!! POST a family query; POST what record > you > > >have for the person; POST a marriage ; POST EVERYTHING and keep searching > > >and posting everything and I promise you, you will eventually find your > > >cousins. > > > I agree with you, with the PRA opening the various family files we > will > > >be reach more people, share more information and at a much shorter time > > >span. And with the DNA testing, if some of you haven't found your > cousins, > > >the DNA could at least point a finger to a group of cousins. > > > Thanks for posting Cheryl and Bob. By the way, Cheryl I haven't > forgot > > >about your Ross Pennington. Oh, do you remember the cemetery plot of > > >Pennington at Green Mount you sent me? It might help others to post the > > >information to the mailing lists as well. We aren't able to send > attachments > > >to the mailing lists but at least you could post the information for the > > >others. That is what we are all about - sharing! > > > Hang in there - you guys ! > > > > > >Rene'e Davis, CFO > > >ARD, Family Groups > > >PRA - Group 9 > > >Pennington Research Association, Inc. > > >www.penningtonresearch.org > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> > > >To: <[email protected]> > > >Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 7:36 AM > > >Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > > > > > > > I certainly have shared Bob's angst and frustration with the PRA > > > > groups. My line, which is Baltimore based is well documented but does > not > > > > go back far enough yet to connect to any of the PRA groups. It is all > > >well > > > > and good Barb to suggest that membership in PRA and in a group isn't > > > > mandatory, but the reality is that, up until now, the focus of PRA has > > > > understandably been on the groups where the vast majority of active > > > > research is taking place. Those of us who have no group have been > left > > >out > > > > in the cold and told to keep researching so that we can find a > connection > > > > to a PRA group. That's not much help, or very encouraging, frankly. > > > > > > > > I am happy to have joined PRA, but I frankly have found it > anticlimatic > > >for > > > > the present. I am waiting with great expectation to the coming change > in > > > > PRA which I believe will alter it to the better. The opening up of > ALL > > >the > > > > records of all these lines to everyone through the new web access > planned, > > > > I believe, for February is a major shift in PRA. It is welcome and it > was > > > > needed. When that happens, I suspect membership in PRA will become > > > > something far more useful to all of us and being able to connect to a > > > > particular "group" will be easier to accomplish. > > > > > > > > So hang in there Bob, things are about to change. Membership will be > > > > required to access this new web based information, I believe, and that > > > > makes sense. > > > > > > > > Cheryl > > > > > > > > At 12:56 AM 01/03/2004 -0500, you wrote: > > > > >Dear Bob, > > > > >You are far from the first person to become confused by the PRA > groups. > > > > >They were started as a way to distinguish between the different lines > and > > > > >when two lines were found to connect via a mutual ancestor, > > > > >then the two lines were merged as one. I am a former member of PRA > and > > > > >during my years with PRA, I believed myself linked to Groups 12, 7, > and > > > > >later to Group 32. But these are merely tools, not mandatory in any > way. > > > > > > > > > >As to the groups being mostly back to an ancestor who was found here > on > > > > >American soil, we are all trying to get back across that big ocean, > but > > > > >seldom with any success. So it looks like you may already be a step > > > > >ahead in that your ancestors came over more recently than many of our > > > > >ancestors. If you are a member of PRA, you may be able to start a > group, > > > > >if one does not appear to exist for your line. However, membership > in > > > > >either a Group or in PRA itself is not required to access a great > deal of > > > > >data through these lists. Most of us love to share with others. > > > > > > > > > >As to the lists, Pennington-L is an independent group owned and run > by > > > > >Steve Privett, and PRA-L is a list run by PRA, of course. I'd > suggest > > > > >remaining on the list and sending out an occasional query as you just > > > > >did. I know there are a few folks who are over in Great Britain, who > are > > > > >researching as we are, for our Pennington ancestors. Possibly some > of > > > > >these list members may be helful to you. Otherwise, since there is > > > > >probably a good paper trail, I'd go ahead and send off for as much as > I > > > > >could afford from British offices and agencies. > > > > > > > > > >Have you done much research with the U.S. sources? If you have been > > > > >researching for awhile, you probably have looked at many sources of > data > > > > >on your family, but there may be more you might have missed. Let us > know > > > > >what you have tried so far. Have you checked the 1930 Census? > Marriage > > > > >records? Church records? Let us know. Many of us would like to > help if > > > > >we can. Please be careful with the data found on the internet. > > > > >I have seen more that was proven false than was proven accurate. Try > to > > > > >find some primary sources, to supplement compilations and family > history > > > > >books, etc. These take time and effort but are worth it. > > > > > > > > > >Good luck, > > > > >Barb T > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > > > > >Please do not post virus warnings on this list. > > > > >Practice safe e-mail habits and only open attachments you're > expecting > > > > >For addition virus info see http://www.symantec.com/us.index.html or > > > > >http://www.mcafee.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > > > > >believed to be clean. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > > > > The threaded archives can be found at > > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/pennington > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > >==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > >To learn about the PRA Family Groups, visit the PRA Web Site at > > >http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > > > > > >-- > > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > > >believed to be clean. > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > For help with your research, go to > > http://www.penningtonresearch.org and > > click on Research Tips. > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > For more information about the PRA DNA Study, visit our Web Site at > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > >