Carmen, Thank you for the Genealogy lesion 101. You all have done so much work and are most likely the only people that cat make any cense out of all the information that is out there. Real detectives I would say. I am sure that Gene has and is trying to make the connection. So his GG Grandfather and my GG Grandfather is the same Benajh Pennington, but no known father for him? Thanks for your input, Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carmen Johnson" <carmenmjo@cableone.net> To: <pra@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:51 AM Subject: [PRA] Adrian Leon Pennington > Ron, > I must caution you on your line :) You are absolutely correct to Benajah > Pennington - however his father is not Micajah Pennington. We don't know > for sure > who is father is. Micajah had a son named Benajah Pennington but he was > not the > same age as yours. At some point in the past, the two were merged somehow > despite > the 10 or so years difference in their ages. The Benajah Pennington who > was son of > Micajah was last known to be in Barren Co., KY and after that is anyone's > guess. > Gene has done a lot of research on your Benajah Pennington. The only > thing that we > can say for sure is the genetically your lines seems quite close to Groups > 30 and > 31. There are some interesting similiarities. Also, I must agree with > what Barb > and Melinda have said about Ancestry.com. The census records are > invaluable and I > spend a great deal of time using them, however the databases (family > tree's) are > only as good as whoever entered the data. We have a little saying > "Garbage In, > Garbage out." The inconsistencies that have been perpetuated are > legendary for > some family lines. I'll give you an example. Micajah Pennington had a > son name > Micajah, Jr. and then a grandson named Micajah Pennington, III. Many > believe that > Micajah, Jr. was married to a Cynthia Correy and a Nancy Baker. Despite > the fact > that Cynthia Correy married a William Jones and was still married to him > in 1850. > In every census until after 1840, Micajah, Jr. is married to a woman of a > similar > age to him. Nancy Baker and Cynthia Williams were actually both married > Micajah > III and not Micajah, Jr. It took a great deal of untangling by Pat Reid, > Rosalie > Graham and myself, but we did eventually get it figured out. However, you > are > still going to find in many databases, Cynthia Corey and Nancy Baker > married to > Micajah Pennington, Jr. People just can't seem to accept that we don't > know the > name of Micajah, Jr.'s wife and may never know it. > > Carmen > > > On Fri Mar 9 3:49 , rhauser@peoplepc.com sent: > > > Barb, > > Thank you for your interest in helping. I can give you some of the info I > do > have. > > He was borne in Maldro, Oklahoma in May 26th 1918 and was killed in Plano, > Texas in Aug.6th 1958. His father was Willis Spencer Pennington , B in > Alabama Nov.14th 1879 - D in Tulsa 1966. Mother was Alta May Woody B in > Sallisaw, Ok. May 7th 1894 & D in Sandsprings, Ok. Dec.22 1981. > > His Grandfather was Absolem Jackson Pennington B July 11 1854-D 1902. > G-Grandfather Joel Harison Pennington May 1815-June 1897. The info I have > takes me to his GG Grandfather Benagah Pennington 1781-1860---- GGG > Grandfather Macajah Pennington 1743 - 1812 > > I do not have documentation on any of this other than what I had found > when > I was a member of Ancestry.com, but really didn't understand what I needed > to do and how to navigate their system. My wife is interested in her > family > and we probably need to get a new membership. > > We have been to the little Community of Pennington England just South of > the > Lake district. Having been adopted and growing up as Ron Hauser and not > being able to talk or even ask about my Pennington background, This is > very > important to me now and want to pass this on to my Children, and > Grandchildren. > > If we need to go to a different e-mail - let me know. My wife & I really > like reading the others comments. > > Thanks again, > > Ron (H.) Pennington > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <keenebj@juno.com> > To: <pra@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 2:48 AM > Subject: [PRA] Adrian Leon Pennington > > >> >> Dear Ron, >> Well, I'm not sure what we'd find on Ancestry.com but I've found lots of >> stuff. They have the whole U.S. census for instance. The 1920 might >> give your father's father, with maybe his mother's first name, too. >> There's the Social Security Death Index which you probably already have. >> Once you have his father's name, you can go on back in the census on your >> Grandfather's family which might yield occupation, address at that time, >> etc. They have some bits of military records, some marriage stuff, some >> births, but not all of either since there is much at the State level and >> the county level. I'd like to know what in particular you hope to find >> and what you already have by way of documentation. I have the UK >> collection, and the newspaper collection which of course is way short of >> complete. That may be next to impossible to get together and input the >> data for the whole country. Actually, I'm going to head on over to >> Ancestry and see if anything pops up for 1920 on your father. I'll be >> back. Unless these suggestions are helpful to anyone else, we may need >> to move over to private email. Any complaints on this, folks? >> >> Barb T >> *************************************** >> Please note NEW address to post to the list: PRA@rootsweb.com >> ************************************** >> For more information about the PRA including our DNA Study, visit us at >> http://www.penningtonresearch.org >> ************************************** >> Learn what's new at the PRA by going to http://www.penningtonresearch.org >> and click on the "News" link on the left side of the page. >> ************************************** >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in >> the subject and the body of the message > > Please note NEW address to post to the list: PRA@rootsweb.com > For more information about the PRA including our DNA Study, visit us at > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > Learn what's new at the PRA by going to http://www.penningtonresearch.org > and click > on the "News" link on the left side of the page. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRA-request@rootsweb.com with > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > ---- Msg sent via CableONE.net MyMail - http://www.cableone.net > *************************************** > Please note NEW address to post to the list: PRA@rootsweb.com > ************************************** > For more information about the PRA including our DNA Study, visit us at > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > ************************************** > Learn what's new at the PRA by going to http://www.penningtonresearch.org > and click on the "News" link on the left side of the page. > ************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Snip <.... I am sure that Gene has and is trying to make the connection. So his GG Grandfather and my GG Grandfather is the same Benajh Pennington, but no known father for him? .... Ron> Ron: You and I have exchanged messages in the past. I'm glad to see you using the PRA mail list to ask your research questions and that our Pennington researchers are helping out by sharing information with you and the other list subscribers. Keep it up! I went back and found that your oldest known Pennington ancestor was Joel Harrison Pennington, b. 13 May 1815, d. 24 Jun 1897. He was the son of my gr-gr-gr-gr-grandfather, Benajah Pennington, b. 18 Aug 1770, d. 12 Oct 1855, Stockton City, Cedar Co., MO. so we share the same ancestor. If you want more information on his family, go to my personal genealogy website at --> http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~genepenn/ . On my personal genealogy website, you'll notice that I list the father of Benajah Pennington, b. 18 Aug 1770, d. 12 Oct 1855 as Andrew Pennington, b. ca. 1745, d. ca. 1800. This is JUST a THEORY at this time and I do NOT have much in the way of genealogical evidence to support this theory. The theory came from earlier research published in the Pennington Pedigrees. I'm still looking for any information that will lead me to the identification of his parents. I had hoped that the report by Jeffery L. Haines, CG, published last year for the PRA would shed some light on the family of Benajah Pennington, Sr., b. 1724/25 and would tell us if one of his sons was Andrew Pennington, b. ca. 1745, d. ca. 1800 and perhaps, just perhaps, that one of Andrew's sons was Benajah Pennington, born 18 August, 1770, d. 12 October, 1855 but no such luck! So, I'm still looking. The PRA has hired another professional genealogist to pick up where Mr. Haines, CG, left off with his research. We're hoping that this effort will provide us with more information, and evidence, for the family and descendants of Benajah Pennington, Sr., b. 1724/25. Our DNA Study has provided us with some good solid evidence to support our theory that several of our Family Groups share a common ancestor within the last 7 - 8 generations. For more information on this, go to --> http://www.penningtonresearch.org/rc/DNA/dna.htm . To quote from the web page, it says, "There are now 12 of the PRA's Family Groups that share a common ancestor some perhaps in the last 7 generations, some before that. Those Family Groups are 4, 5, 7, 11, 12, 14, 16, 20, 28, 30, 31 and 32." Jim Pennington, Group Leader for Groups 30 & 31, Carmen Johnson, Group Leader for Group 7, and myself have been working very hard to find more evidence to support the DNA results. We're missing the identity of a couple of key Pennington males in the lineages to prove the links. I hope this helps to bring you up to date on the current research for our common ancestor, Benajah Pennington, born 18 August, 1770, d. 12 October, 1855. Regarding your father, Adrian (Jack) Leon Pennington, b. 1918, d. 1957 (this came from one of your early messages but doesn't match what you said in a later message - see below), I checked Ancestry.com's records and found several possible matches in the U.S. Census records so you may want to check them. I also found a possible match in the Texas Death Index, 1903 - 2000. It lists one Adrian Leon Pennington, d. 8/6/1958 in Collin Co., TX (record #54874). I just sent an e-mail to you so you can see the record. I also have a copy of that record if you would like me to send it to you via e-mail. This matches what you described in one of your more recent messages to the mail list where you said your father "... was killed in Plano, Texas in Aug.6th 1958." Good luck with your research. Keep in touch and be sure to watch the Group 7 website for updates. Carmen does a terrific job of posting the latest news, pictures and research. To view it, go to --> http://pragroup7.genheirlooms.com/ . Gene Pennington (Group 7) Chairman Research Director Pennington Research Association, Inc. www.PenningtonResearch.org

Hello Gene, I know you just can't wait to hear this..........but I still have not received the PP. Thanks...............Esther Esther Pennington Bruesch 7320 NE 70 th Street Vancouver, Washington 98662