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    1. Re: OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups.
    2. Rene'e Davis
    3. Hi Lana, Oh Boy, I hope that you and Nick (Grp. 33) didn't think I left our England Family Groups out on purpose. I sure missed the both of you in my answer to Bob. Sorry but it is always nice to hear from you :>). Thanks for posting. Rene'e Davis, CFO ARD, Family Groups PRA - Group 9 Pennington Research Association, Inc. www.penningtonresearch.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lana Pennington" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > Hello Bob > > Just to let you know not all Pennington groups in the > PRA are linked to America. My earliest ancestor > (1700s) is located in the Yorkshire area of England > and my family's immigration ended up in New Zealand. > So far I have found no connection to any American > Pennington. Consequently I head my own Group (34). > If you have a good paper trail then it is worthwhile > thinking about forming your own group. > > Regards, > Lana Pennington > Group 34 > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" > your friends today! Download Messenger Now > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html > > > ==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > Please respect people's copyright protection and only repost > or publish their info after getting their written approval. > >

    01/03/2004 01:04:07
    1. Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups.
    2. Rene'e Davis
    3. Hi There Marie, My Thomas Pennington (Family Grp. 9) was born 24 Feb. 1782 in Cecil, MD. His wife in 1817 was Margaret (Rhoda) McKeever. They married in Hampshire County, Va (which is now W.VA). The probate records 25 May 1857 mentions children, my 4th great grandfather Julius G. Pennington, William Paul, Isaac J., Sarah and Mary Catherine also a grandson Alfred Anderson. However it does not mention his wife, Margaret. Of course - that would make our job too easy, huh? Your Thomas could be a cousin or uncle according to the time line. Do you have a date or place of birth for your Thomas and Miss Beall in MD ? For some time now, I have been watching Family Groups 9, 29, 21 and 19 as possible connections - but have not been able to narrow it down in some families. There could be other groups as well. Some of these Family Groups are also mentioned in the DNA study as possible links and is all the more reason to use our mailing list for communicating to our cousins. All of these groups share many other surnames besides Pennington in this same area of MD. Our problem has been the first names - before about 1860 the same first names were given to cousins in the same families and matched uncles, nephews, cousins and grandparents. I think they were in a race to see how many Thomas, William and John's they could name their children. :>) It is almost impossible to sort them out. But I just keep plugging away. Let's do some more sharing notes for these two. Maybe if we stay focused on just these two Thomas', something will pop out. Talk soon and thanks for posting.... Rene'e Davis, CFO ARD, Family Groups PRA - Group 9 Pennington Research Association, Inc. www.penningtonresearch.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "mphumes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > Renee, > In your note to Cheryl you mentioned a Thomas Pennington. Can you tell > m,e what group he would be plaaced? I am searching for Thomas Pennington > and Leatha Beall the both were in MD at one time. They were married in NC > in 1796. Could this ring a bell with you or the years. Group # 29 > > Thanks for any help. > Marie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Spaulding <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 1:18 PM > Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > Hi. I still have the plot plan and so forth for the Pennington Greenmount > > Cemetery Plot that I did last year. Will you have the ability on the new > > web site to gather documents and photos and make them available to > > everyone? If so, I can post the entire map and the individual grave > cards. > > Cher > > > > At 10:18 AM 01/03/2004 -0700, you wrote: > > >Hi Cheryl, > > > I certainly understand your frustration, I can't tell you how many > > >places I posted my relative to in hopes of finding someone. I was just > > >stubborn and probably somewhat of a pest until I found a will probated in > MD > > >for my grandfather Thomas. Then I reposted that information to the PRA > list > > >and got lucky in finding my cousins. While finding a Family Group in the > > >PRA to belong is helpful and the cousins that share a common ancestor > makes > > >everyone's tree grow like > > >it is on hormones or something. It is also important for anyone tracking > > >ancestors to continue working on the person they are stuck on. If you > find > > >them on some census, some year in someplace, follow-up in the same area > for > > >any probate records. While you are there, look for the marriage and go > back > > >to the census for the other surname. Many times I found missing family > > >members and grandparents because they were living with the married > inlaws. > > > Keep posting to the lists !!! POST a family query; POST what record > you > > >have for the person; POST a marriage ; POST EVERYTHING and keep searching > > >and posting everything and I promise you, you will eventually find your > > >cousins. > > > I agree with you, with the PRA opening the various family files we > will > > >be reach more people, share more information and at a much shorter time > > >span. And with the DNA testing, if some of you haven't found your > cousins, > > >the DNA could at least point a finger to a group of cousins. > > > Thanks for posting Cheryl and Bob. By the way, Cheryl I haven't > forgot > > >about your Ross Pennington. Oh, do you remember the cemetery plot of > > >Pennington at Green Mount you sent me? It might help others to post the > > >information to the mailing lists as well. We aren't able to send > attachments > > >to the mailing lists but at least you could post the information for the > > >others. That is what we are all about - sharing! > > > Hang in there - you guys ! > > > > > >Rene'e Davis, CFO > > >ARD, Family Groups > > >PRA - Group 9 > > >Pennington Research Association, Inc. > > >www.penningtonresearch.org > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> > > >To: <[email protected]> > > >Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 7:36 AM > > >Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > > > > > > > I certainly have shared Bob's angst and frustration with the PRA > > > > groups. My line, which is Baltimore based is well documented but does > not > > > > go back far enough yet to connect to any of the PRA groups. It is all > > >well > > > > and good Barb to suggest that membership in PRA and in a group isn't > > > > mandatory, but the reality is that, up until now, the focus of PRA has > > > > understandably been on the groups where the vast majority of active > > > > research is taking place. Those of us who have no group have been > left > > >out > > > > in the cold and told to keep researching so that we can find a > connection > > > > to a PRA group. That's not much help, or very encouraging, frankly. > > > > > > > > I am happy to have joined PRA, but I frankly have found it > anticlimatic > > >for > > > > the present. I am waiting with great expectation to the coming change > in > > > > PRA which I believe will alter it to the better. The opening up of > ALL > > >the > > > > records of all these lines to everyone through the new web access > planned, > > > > I believe, for February is a major shift in PRA. It is welcome and it > was > > > > needed. When that happens, I suspect membership in PRA will become > > > > something far more useful to all of us and being able to connect to a > > > > particular "group" will be easier to accomplish. > > > > > > > > So hang in there Bob, things are about to change. Membership will be > > > > required to access this new web based information, I believe, and that > > > > makes sense. > > > > > > > > Cheryl > > > > > > > > At 12:56 AM 01/03/2004 -0500, you wrote: > > > > >Dear Bob, > > > > >You are far from the first person to become confused by the PRA > groups. > > > > >They were started as a way to distinguish between the different lines > and > > > > >when two lines were found to connect via a mutual ancestor, > > > > >then the two lines were merged as one. I am a former member of PRA > and > > > > >during my years with PRA, I believed myself linked to Groups 12, 7, > and > > > > >later to Group 32. But these are merely tools, not mandatory in any > way. > > > > > > > > > >As to the groups being mostly back to an ancestor who was found here > on > > > > >American soil, we are all trying to get back across that big ocean, > but > > > > >seldom with any success. So it looks like you may already be a step > > > > >ahead in that your ancestors came over more recently than many of our > > > > >ancestors. If you are a member of PRA, you may be able to start a > group, > > > > >if one does not appear to exist for your line. However, membership > in > > > > >either a Group or in PRA itself is not required to access a great > deal of > > > > >data through these lists. Most of us love to share with others. > > > > > > > > > >As to the lists, Pennington-L is an independent group owned and run > by > > > > >Steve Privett, and PRA-L is a list run by PRA, of course. I'd > suggest > > > > >remaining on the list and sending out an occasional query as you just > > > > >did. I know there are a few folks who are over in Great Britain, who > are > > > > >researching as we are, for our Pennington ancestors. Possibly some > of > > > > >these list members may be helful to you. Otherwise, since there is > > > > >probably a good paper trail, I'd go ahead and send off for as much as > I > > > > >could afford from British offices and agencies. > > > > > > > > > >Have you done much research with the U.S. sources? If you have been > > > > >researching for awhile, you probably have looked at many sources of > data > > > > >on your family, but there may be more you might have missed. Let us > know > > > > >what you have tried so far. Have you checked the 1930 Census? > Marriage > > > > >records? Church records? Let us know. Many of us would like to > help if > > > > >we can. Please be careful with the data found on the internet. > > > > >I have seen more that was proven false than was proven accurate. Try > to > > > > >find some primary sources, to supplement compilations and family > history > > > > >books, etc. These take time and effort but are worth it. > > > > > > > > > >Good luck, > > > > >Barb T > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > > > > >Please do not post virus warnings on this list. > > > > >Practice safe e-mail habits and only open attachments you're > expecting > > > > >For addition virus info see http://www.symantec.com/us.index.html or > > > > >http://www.mcafee.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > > > > >believed to be clean. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > > > > The threaded archives can be found at > > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/pennington > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > >==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > >To learn about the PRA Family Groups, visit the PRA Web Site at > > >http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > > > > > >-- > > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > > >believed to be clean. > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > For help with your research, go to > > http://www.penningtonresearch.org and > > click on Research Tips. > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > For more information about the PRA DNA Study, visit our Web Site at > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > >

    01/03/2004 12:58:33
    1. Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups.
    2. mphumes
    3. Renee, In your note to Cheryl you mentioned a Thomas Pennington. Can you tell m,e what group he would be plaaced? I am searching for Thomas Pennington and Leatha Beall the both were in MD at one time. They were married in NC in 1796. Could this ring a bell with you or the years. Group # 29 Thanks for any help. Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: Spaulding <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > Hi. I still have the plot plan and so forth for the Pennington Greenmount > Cemetery Plot that I did last year. Will you have the ability on the new > web site to gather documents and photos and make them available to > everyone? If so, I can post the entire map and the individual grave cards. > Cher > > At 10:18 AM 01/03/2004 -0700, you wrote: > >Hi Cheryl, > > I certainly understand your frustration, I can't tell you how many > >places I posted my relative to in hopes of finding someone. I was just > >stubborn and probably somewhat of a pest until I found a will probated in MD > >for my grandfather Thomas. Then I reposted that information to the PRA list > >and got lucky in finding my cousins. While finding a Family Group in the > >PRA to belong is helpful and the cousins that share a common ancestor makes > >everyone's tree grow like > >it is on hormones or something. It is also important for anyone tracking > >ancestors to continue working on the person they are stuck on. If you find > >them on some census, some year in someplace, follow-up in the same area for > >any probate records. While you are there, look for the marriage and go back > >to the census for the other surname. Many times I found missing family > >members and grandparents because they were living with the married inlaws. > > Keep posting to the lists !!! POST a family query; POST what record you > >have for the person; POST a marriage ; POST EVERYTHING and keep searching > >and posting everything and I promise you, you will eventually find your > >cousins. > > I agree with you, with the PRA opening the various family files we will > >be reach more people, share more information and at a much shorter time > >span. And with the DNA testing, if some of you haven't found your cousins, > >the DNA could at least point a finger to a group of cousins. > > Thanks for posting Cheryl and Bob. By the way, Cheryl I haven't forgot > >about your Ross Pennington. Oh, do you remember the cemetery plot of > >Pennington at Green Mount you sent me? It might help others to post the > >information to the mailing lists as well. We aren't able to send attachments > >to the mailing lists but at least you could post the information for the > >others. That is what we are all about - sharing! > > Hang in there - you guys ! > > > >Rene'e Davis, CFO > >ARD, Family Groups > >PRA - Group 9 > >Pennington Research Association, Inc. > >www.penningtonresearch.org > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 7:36 AM > >Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > > > > I certainly have shared Bob's angst and frustration with the PRA > > > groups. My line, which is Baltimore based is well documented but does not > > > go back far enough yet to connect to any of the PRA groups. It is all > >well > > > and good Barb to suggest that membership in PRA and in a group isn't > > > mandatory, but the reality is that, up until now, the focus of PRA has > > > understandably been on the groups where the vast majority of active > > > research is taking place. Those of us who have no group have been left > >out > > > in the cold and told to keep researching so that we can find a connection > > > to a PRA group. That's not much help, or very encouraging, frankly. > > > > > > I am happy to have joined PRA, but I frankly have found it anticlimatic > >for > > > the present. I am waiting with great expectation to the coming change in > > > PRA which I believe will alter it to the better. The opening up of ALL > >the > > > records of all these lines to everyone through the new web access planned, > > > I believe, for February is a major shift in PRA. It is welcome and it was > > > needed. When that happens, I suspect membership in PRA will become > > > something far more useful to all of us and being able to connect to a > > > particular "group" will be easier to accomplish. > > > > > > So hang in there Bob, things are about to change. Membership will be > > > required to access this new web based information, I believe, and that > > > makes sense. > > > > > > Cheryl > > > > > > At 12:56 AM 01/03/2004 -0500, you wrote: > > > >Dear Bob, > > > >You are far from the first person to become confused by the PRA groups. > > > >They were started as a way to distinguish between the different lines and > > > >when two lines were found to connect via a mutual ancestor, > > > >then the two lines were merged as one. I am a former member of PRA and > > > >during my years with PRA, I believed myself linked to Groups 12, 7, and > > > >later to Group 32. But these are merely tools, not mandatory in any way. > > > > > > > >As to the groups being mostly back to an ancestor who was found here on > > > >American soil, we are all trying to get back across that big ocean, but > > > >seldom with any success. So it looks like you may already be a step > > > >ahead in that your ancestors came over more recently than many of our > > > >ancestors. If you are a member of PRA, you may be able to start a group, > > > >if one does not appear to exist for your line. However, membership in > > > >either a Group or in PRA itself is not required to access a great deal of > > > >data through these lists. Most of us love to share with others. > > > > > > > >As to the lists, Pennington-L is an independent group owned and run by > > > >Steve Privett, and PRA-L is a list run by PRA, of course. I'd suggest > > > >remaining on the list and sending out an occasional query as you just > > > >did. I know there are a few folks who are over in Great Britain, who are > > > >researching as we are, for our Pennington ancestors. Possibly some of > > > >these list members may be helful to you. Otherwise, since there is > > > >probably a good paper trail, I'd go ahead and send off for as much as I > > > >could afford from British offices and agencies. > > > > > > > >Have you done much research with the U.S. sources? If you have been > > > >researching for awhile, you probably have looked at many sources of data > > > >on your family, but there may be more you might have missed. Let us know > > > >what you have tried so far. Have you checked the 1930 Census? Marriage > > > >records? Church records? Let us know. Many of us would like to help if > > > >we can. Please be careful with the data found on the internet. > > > >I have seen more that was proven false than was proven accurate. Try to > > > >find some primary sources, to supplement compilations and family history > > > >books, etc. These take time and effort but are worth it. > > > > > > > >Good luck, > > > >Barb T > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > > > >Please do not post virus warnings on this list. > > > >Practice safe e-mail habits and only open attachments you're expecting > > > >For addition virus info see http://www.symantec.com/us.index.html or > > > >http://www.mcafee.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > > > >believed to be clean. > > > > > > > > > ==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > > > The threaded archives can be found at > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/pennington > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PRA Mailing List ==== > >==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > >To learn about the PRA Family Groups, visit the PRA Web Site at > >http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > > >-- > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > >believed to be clean. > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > For help with your research, go to > http://www.penningtonresearch.org and > click on Research Tips.

    01/03/2004 07:50:46
    1. Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups.
    2. Spaulding
    3. Hi. I still have the plot plan and so forth for the Pennington Greenmount Cemetery Plot that I did last year. Will you have the ability on the new web site to gather documents and photos and make them available to everyone? If so, I can post the entire map and the individual grave cards. Cher At 10:18 AM 01/03/2004 -0700, you wrote: >Hi Cheryl, > I certainly understand your frustration, I can't tell you how many >places I posted my relative to in hopes of finding someone. I was just >stubborn and probably somewhat of a pest until I found a will probated in MD >for my grandfather Thomas. Then I reposted that information to the PRA list >and got lucky in finding my cousins. While finding a Family Group in the >PRA to belong is helpful and the cousins that share a common ancestor makes >everyone's tree grow like >it is on hormones or something. It is also important for anyone tracking >ancestors to continue working on the person they are stuck on. If you find >them on some census, some year in someplace, follow-up in the same area for >any probate records. While you are there, look for the marriage and go back >to the census for the other surname. Many times I found missing family >members and grandparents because they were living with the married inlaws. > Keep posting to the lists !!! POST a family query; POST what record you >have for the person; POST a marriage ; POST EVERYTHING and keep searching >and posting everything and I promise you, you will eventually find your >cousins. > I agree with you, with the PRA opening the various family files we will >be reach more people, share more information and at a much shorter time >span. And with the DNA testing, if some of you haven't found your cousins, >the DNA could at least point a finger to a group of cousins. > Thanks for posting Cheryl and Bob. By the way, Cheryl I haven't forgot >about your Ross Pennington. Oh, do you remember the cemetery plot of >Pennington at Green Mount you sent me? It might help others to post the >information to the mailing lists as well. We aren't able to send attachments >to the mailing lists but at least you could post the information for the >others. That is what we are all about - sharing! > Hang in there - you guys ! > >Rene'e Davis, CFO >ARD, Family Groups >PRA - Group 9 >Pennington Research Association, Inc. >www.penningtonresearch.org >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 7:36 AM >Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > I certainly have shared Bob's angst and frustration with the PRA > > groups. My line, which is Baltimore based is well documented but does not > > go back far enough yet to connect to any of the PRA groups. It is all >well > > and good Barb to suggest that membership in PRA and in a group isn't > > mandatory, but the reality is that, up until now, the focus of PRA has > > understandably been on the groups where the vast majority of active > > research is taking place. Those of us who have no group have been left >out > > in the cold and told to keep researching so that we can find a connection > > to a PRA group. That's not much help, or very encouraging, frankly. > > > > I am happy to have joined PRA, but I frankly have found it anticlimatic >for > > the present. I am waiting with great expectation to the coming change in > > PRA which I believe will alter it to the better. The opening up of ALL >the > > records of all these lines to everyone through the new web access planned, > > I believe, for February is a major shift in PRA. It is welcome and it was > > needed. When that happens, I suspect membership in PRA will become > > something far more useful to all of us and being able to connect to a > > particular "group" will be easier to accomplish. > > > > So hang in there Bob, things are about to change. Membership will be > > required to access this new web based information, I believe, and that > > makes sense. > > > > Cheryl > > > > At 12:56 AM 01/03/2004 -0500, you wrote: > > >Dear Bob, > > >You are far from the first person to become confused by the PRA groups. > > >They were started as a way to distinguish between the different lines and > > >when two lines were found to connect via a mutual ancestor, > > >then the two lines were merged as one. I am a former member of PRA and > > >during my years with PRA, I believed myself linked to Groups 12, 7, and > > >later to Group 32. But these are merely tools, not mandatory in any way. > > > > > >As to the groups being mostly back to an ancestor who was found here on > > >American soil, we are all trying to get back across that big ocean, but > > >seldom with any success. So it looks like you may already be a step > > >ahead in that your ancestors came over more recently than many of our > > >ancestors. If you are a member of PRA, you may be able to start a group, > > >if one does not appear to exist for your line. However, membership in > > >either a Group or in PRA itself is not required to access a great deal of > > >data through these lists. Most of us love to share with others. > > > > > >As to the lists, Pennington-L is an independent group owned and run by > > >Steve Privett, and PRA-L is a list run by PRA, of course. I'd suggest > > >remaining on the list and sending out an occasional query as you just > > >did. I know there are a few folks who are over in Great Britain, who are > > >researching as we are, for our Pennington ancestors. Possibly some of > > >these list members may be helful to you. Otherwise, since there is > > >probably a good paper trail, I'd go ahead and send off for as much as I > > >could afford from British offices and agencies. > > > > > >Have you done much research with the U.S. sources? If you have been > > >researching for awhile, you probably have looked at many sources of data > > >on your family, but there may be more you might have missed. Let us know > > >what you have tried so far. Have you checked the 1930 Census? Marriage > > >records? Church records? Let us know. Many of us would like to help if > > >we can. Please be careful with the data found on the internet. > > >I have seen more that was proven false than was proven accurate. Try to > > >find some primary sources, to supplement compilations and family history > > >books, etc. These take time and effort but are worth it. > > > > > >Good luck, > > >Barb T > > > > > > > > >==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > > >Please do not post virus warnings on this list. > > >Practice safe e-mail habits and only open attachments you're expecting > > >For addition virus info see http://www.symantec.com/us.index.html or > > >http://www.mcafee.com/ > > > > > > > > >-- > > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > > >believed to be clean. > > > > > > ==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > > The threaded archives can be found at > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/pennington > > > > > > >==== PRA Mailing List ==== >==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== >To learn about the PRA Family Groups, visit the PRA Web Site at >http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean.

    01/03/2004 07:18:34
    1. Sarah Pennington
    2. Rene'e Davis
    3. Forwarding this from the Pennington-List, can anyone help them? The best of 2004 to all of you. Rene'e Davis, CFO ARD, Family Groups PRA - Group 9 Pennington Research Association, Inc. www.penningtonresearch.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob & Joyce Tuxford" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 4:36 AM Subject: [Pennington-L] Sarah Pennington > Seeking information please on > Sarah Pennington who married a Tom Dutton > They had a child called George born 1863 in Ballarat, Victoria > Do hope that somebody can assist > Bob and Joyce > > > ==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > Threaded archives can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/pennington > or for a search engine try > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

    01/03/2004 03:29:20
    1. OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups.
    2. Rene'e Davis
    3. Hi Cheryl, I certainly understand your frustration, I can't tell you how many places I posted my relative to in hopes of finding someone. I was just stubborn and probably somewhat of a pest until I found a will probated in MD for my grandfather Thomas. Then I reposted that information to the PRA list and got lucky in finding my cousins. While finding a Family Group in the PRA to belong is helpful and the cousins that share a common ancestor makes everyone's tree grow like it is on hormones or something. It is also important for anyone tracking ancestors to continue working on the person they are stuck on. If you find them on some census, some year in someplace, follow-up in the same area for any probate records. While you are there, look for the marriage and go back to the census for the other surname. Many times I found missing family members and grandparents because they were living with the married inlaws. Keep posting to the lists !!! POST a family query; POST what record you have for the person; POST a marriage ; POST EVERYTHING and keep searching and posting everything and I promise you, you will eventually find your cousins. I agree with you, with the PRA opening the various family files we will be reach more people, share more information and at a much shorter time span. And with the DNA testing, if some of you haven't found your cousins, the DNA could at least point a finger to a group of cousins. Thanks for posting Cheryl and Bob. By the way, Cheryl I haven't forgot about your Ross Pennington. Oh, do you remember the cemetery plot of Pennington at Green Mount you sent me? It might help others to post the information to the mailing lists as well. We aren't able to send attachments to the mailing lists but at least you could post the information for the others. That is what we are all about - sharing! Hang in there - you guys ! Rene'e Davis, CFO ARD, Family Groups PRA - Group 9 Pennington Research Association, Inc. www.penningtonresearch.org > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 7:36 AM > Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > I certainly have shared Bob's angst and frustration with the PRA > > groups. My line, which is Baltimore based is well documented but does not > > go back far enough yet to connect to any of the PRA groups. It is all > well > > and good Barb to suggest that membership in PRA and in a group isn't > > mandatory, but the reality is that, up until now, the focus of PRA has > > understandably been on the groups where the vast majority of active > > research is taking place. Those of us who have no group have been left > out > > in the cold and told to keep researching so that we can find a connection > > to a PRA group. That's not much help, or very encouraging, frankly. > > > > I am happy to have joined PRA, but I frankly have found it anticlimatic > for > > the present. I am waiting with great expectation to the coming change in > > PRA which I believe will alter it to the better. The opening up of ALL > the > > records of all these lines to everyone through the new web access planned, > > I believe, for February is a major shift in PRA. It is welcome and it was > > needed. When that happens, I suspect membership in PRA will become > > something far more useful to all of us and being able to connect to a > > particular "group" will be easier to accomplish. > > > > So hang in there Bob, things are about to change. Membership will be > > required to access this new web based information, I believe, and that > > makes sense. > > > > Cheryl > > > > At 12:56 AM 01/03/2004 -0500, you wrote: > > >Dear Bob, > > >You are far from the first person to become confused by the PRA groups. > > >They were started as a way to distinguish between the different lines and > > >when two lines were found to connect via a mutual ancestor, > > >then the two lines were merged as one. I am a former member of PRA and > > >during my years with PRA, I believed myself linked to Groups 12, 7, and > > >later to Group 32. But these are merely tools, not mandatory in any way. > > > > > >As to the groups being mostly back to an ancestor who was found here on > > >American soil, we are all trying to get back across that big ocean, but > > >seldom with any success. So it looks like you may already be a step > > >ahead in that your ancestors came over more recently than many of our > > >ancestors. If you are a member of PRA, you may be able to start a group, > > >if one does not appear to exist for your line. However, membership in > > >either a Group or in PRA itself is not required to access a great deal of > > >data through these lists. Most of us love to share with others. > > > > > >As to the lists, Pennington-L is an independent group owned and run by > > >Steve Privett, and PRA-L is a list run by PRA, of course. I'd suggest > > >remaining on the list and sending out an occasional query as you just > > >did. I know there are a few folks who are over in Great Britain, who are > > >researching as we are, for our Pennington ancestors. Possibly some of > > >these list members may be helful to you. Otherwise, since there is > > >probably a good paper trail, I'd go ahead and send off for as much as I > > >could afford from British offices and agencies. > > > > > >Have you done much research with the U.S. sources? If you have been > > >researching for awhile, you probably have looked at many sources of data > > >on your family, but there may be more you might have missed. Let us know > > >what you have tried so far. Have you checked the 1930 Census? Marriage > > >records? Church records? Let us know. Many of us would like to help if > > >we can. Please be careful with the data found on the internet. > > >I have seen more that was proven false than was proven accurate. Try to > > >find some primary sources, to supplement compilations and family history > > >books, etc. These take time and effort but are worth it. > > > > > >Good luck, > > >Barb T > > > > > > > > >==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > > >Please do not post virus warnings on this list. > > >Practice safe e-mail habits and only open attachments you're expecting > > >For addition virus info see http://www.symantec.com/us.index.html or > > >http://www.mcafee.com/ > > > > > > > > >-- > > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > > >believed to be clean. > > > > > > ==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > > The threaded archives can be found at > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/pennington > > > > > > > ==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > To search over 7000 archived messages from this list see > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

    01/03/2004 03:24:43
    1. Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups.
    2. Rene'e Davis
    3. Hi Cheryl, I certainly understand your frustration, I can't tell you how many places I posted my relative to in hopes of finding someone. I was just stubborn and probably somewhat of a pest until I found a will probated in MD for my grandfather Thomas. Then I reposted that information to the PRA list and got lucky in finding my cousins. While finding a Family Group in the PRA to belong is helpful and the cousins that share a common ancestor makes everyone's tree grow like it is on hormones or something. It is also important for anyone tracking ancestors to continue working on the person they are stuck on. If you find them on some census, some year in someplace, follow-up in the same area for any probate records. While you are there, look for the marriage and go back to the census for the other surname. Many times I found missing family members and grandparents because they were living with the married inlaws. Keep posting to the lists !!! POST a family query; POST what record you have for the person; POST a marriage ; POST EVERYTHING and keep searching and posting everything and I promise you, you will eventually find your cousins. I agree with you, with the PRA opening the various family files we will be reach more people, share more information and at a much shorter time span. And with the DNA testing, if some of you haven't found your cousins, the DNA could at least point a finger to a group of cousins. Thanks for posting Cheryl and Bob. By the way, Cheryl I haven't forgot about your Ross Pennington. Oh, do you remember the cemetery plot of Pennington at Green Mount you sent me? It might help others to post the information to the mailing lists as well. We aren't able to send attachments to the mailing lists but at least you could post the information for the others. That is what we are all about - sharing! Hang in there - you guys ! Rene'e Davis, CFO ARD, Family Groups PRA - Group 9 Pennington Research Association, Inc. www.penningtonresearch.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > I certainly have shared Bob's angst and frustration with the PRA > groups. My line, which is Baltimore based is well documented but does not > go back far enough yet to connect to any of the PRA groups. It is all well > and good Barb to suggest that membership in PRA and in a group isn't > mandatory, but the reality is that, up until now, the focus of PRA has > understandably been on the groups where the vast majority of active > research is taking place. Those of us who have no group have been left out > in the cold and told to keep researching so that we can find a connection > to a PRA group. That's not much help, or very encouraging, frankly. > > I am happy to have joined PRA, but I frankly have found it anticlimatic for > the present. I am waiting with great expectation to the coming change in > PRA which I believe will alter it to the better. The opening up of ALL the > records of all these lines to everyone through the new web access planned, > I believe, for February is a major shift in PRA. It is welcome and it was > needed. When that happens, I suspect membership in PRA will become > something far more useful to all of us and being able to connect to a > particular "group" will be easier to accomplish. > > So hang in there Bob, things are about to change. Membership will be > required to access this new web based information, I believe, and that > makes sense. > > Cheryl > > At 12:56 AM 01/03/2004 -0500, you wrote: > >Dear Bob, > >You are far from the first person to become confused by the PRA groups. > >They were started as a way to distinguish between the different lines and > >when two lines were found to connect via a mutual ancestor, > >then the two lines were merged as one. I am a former member of PRA and > >during my years with PRA, I believed myself linked to Groups 12, 7, and > >later to Group 32. But these are merely tools, not mandatory in any way. > > > >As to the groups being mostly back to an ancestor who was found here on > >American soil, we are all trying to get back across that big ocean, but > >seldom with any success. So it looks like you may already be a step > >ahead in that your ancestors came over more recently than many of our > >ancestors. If you are a member of PRA, you may be able to start a group, > >if one does not appear to exist for your line. However, membership in > >either a Group or in PRA itself is not required to access a great deal of > >data through these lists. Most of us love to share with others. > > > >As to the lists, Pennington-L is an independent group owned and run by > >Steve Privett, and PRA-L is a list run by PRA, of course. I'd suggest > >remaining on the list and sending out an occasional query as you just > >did. I know there are a few folks who are over in Great Britain, who are > >researching as we are, for our Pennington ancestors. Possibly some of > >these list members may be helful to you. Otherwise, since there is > >probably a good paper trail, I'd go ahead and send off for as much as I > >could afford from British offices and agencies. > > > >Have you done much research with the U.S. sources? If you have been > >researching for awhile, you probably have looked at many sources of data > >on your family, but there may be more you might have missed. Let us know > >what you have tried so far. Have you checked the 1930 Census? Marriage > >records? Church records? Let us know. Many of us would like to help if > >we can. Please be careful with the data found on the internet. > >I have seen more that was proven false than was proven accurate. Try to > >find some primary sources, to supplement compilations and family history > >books, etc. These take time and effort but are worth it. > > > >Good luck, > >Barb T > > > > > >==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > >Please do not post virus warnings on this list. > >Practice safe e-mail habits and only open attachments you're expecting > >For addition virus info see http://www.symantec.com/us.index.html or > >http://www.mcafee.com/ > > > > > >-- > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > >believed to be clean. > > > ==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > The threaded archives can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/pennington > >

    01/03/2004 03:18:58
    1. OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups.
    2. Rene'e Davis
    3. Hi Bob, Don't be confused about the Family Groups on the PRA website. They are just our way of naming the oldest ancestor for each family tree. One day we hope to find the common link that will merge many of our family groups through either primary sources or our DNA study. No, you are not in the wrong place, either !! As genealogists, all of our Pennington families start our trees with what we know ; the most recent name and place and work backwards. The PRA has been accumulating Pennington family histories for over 30 years and we have a data base that includes over 50,000 Pennington, Penington, Pinnington, Pynyngton and other surnames. To save some confusion there are 2 Pennington Mailing Lists. One, [email protected] (which you have posted to) the other is [email protected] I subscribe to both lists so that I find more cousins like you. As you have read on the PRA website, there are always new family groups being formed. I have checked for your James, Richard, James Richard Henry and Ralph Pennington. Also, Pedersen and Cartwright surnames. There were no matches for the time period you specified but there are a number of possibilities. I am sharing your email with the PRA Mailing List in hopes that your names will 'ring a bell' with our many members and possibly help both of you add branches to your trees. In order to receive mail, you need to subscribe to the list, just click here [email protected] and type SUBSCRIBE on the subject line. That's it - it's free ! Some of our members subscribe to the PRA mailing list only and is the reason I have forwarded your email to our list. I am very interested about the Pennington China in Liverpool. Can you tell us more about that? We currently have 2 Family Groups that have made their way to/from England. They are Groups 3, Lancashire, ENG. (Trisha Bennett [email protected] ) and Group 27, Muncaster, ENG (Sidney Graveston (no email). I hope that my PRA cousins in cyberspace will be able to find a link to your family. Should you decide to pursue your Pennington heritage - you may want to check our website again. In particular, the DNA study; the new www.myfamily.com (where we are going to move all of our Pennington archives); Starting a new Family Group. I know that Nick Pennington, our DNA Coordinator will be very interested in your ties to England. Most of us are stuck in America trying to reach the shores of England and beyond. I hope my reply has helped sort out the confusion. One thing is definite, all of us Pennington's are trying to find our cousins around the world. The more we post inquiries the better the odds of finding our extended families. So, you have started in the right direction. Should you be interested in starting a new Family Group for your line, let us know and we will help you get started. Getting your family published can open many doors to the past. BOB, when you reply to this mail, click the "reply all' button - it will reach both mailing lists and make sure you have subscribed. Happy hunting! Rene'e Davis, CFO ARD, Family Groups PRA - Group 9 Pennington Research Association, Inc. www.penningtonresearch.org ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 11:59 PM Subject: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > Cousins -- > > I was looking at the PRA website tonight, with a possible view to joining, > and I've become completely confused on the subject of the Groups. > > My paternal grandmother was Emma Florence Mary Pennington, who came to the > United States from Liverpool in 1922 shortly after her about-to-be-spouse, > Charles Hallett Pedersen. Her ancestors appear to have knocked around > northwestern England, mostly in the Liverpool area, for several generations > at least. The family is said to have been involved in the manufacturing > and/or distribution of china, though I do not know for sure that I'm > connected with the modestly famous Pennington china works of Liverpool. > > At this point, what I know about these folks is not much better than > hearsay. I don't yet know where much of the information I have came from or > whether it is accurate. That being said, the earliest ancestor I think I > know about is one Ralph Pennington, born 14 December 1783, who was wed to a > Mary. They had a number of children, the youngest of whom was a James (or > maybe Richard) Pennington, who was born 26 May 1819. > > This James/Richard, who is said to be 'of Burslem', married one Mary > Cartwright on 2 December 1849. (I have a copy of this marriage certificate > on order). Their issue included one John Henry Pennington, who's the father > of the Emma mentioned above. > > Here's my confusion. It looks from what I've seen that the 'groups' are all > keyed in to an earliest US ancestor. In my case, the earliest US ancestor > constructed crossword puzzles in between her meetings of the Daughters of > the British Empire. :) Can I be said to fit into the family groups at all? > Is the PRA mostly aimed at folks searching for US ancestors? Am I really > kind of in the wrong place? > > Thanks for your patience. Guidance, advice, or knowledgable reprimand would > all be appreciated. > > Bob Pedersen > Kansas City, Missouri > > > > > ==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > Threaded archives can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/pennington > or for a search engine try > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

    01/03/2004 01:06:42
    1. Re: INTERESTING ARTICLES ABOUT DNA & GENEALOGY
    2. Nicholas Penington
    3. I would just like to point out that the Popular Science article is very biased. It completely ignores the only sensible use of DNA in genealogy in other words using the Y-chromosome to identify the genetic lines associated with a particular surname. There are now 830 surnames that are using this technique in a similar way to the Pennington DNA Study and some families are having great successes (as are we). The use of mitochondrial DNA and the DNA Print test in my opinion are simply novelties that will probably never be useful in genealogy and might give one only a glimpse of the prehistory of a very few of your ancestors. It is true one will find many genetic cousins that have a different surname to you if you take our Y chromosome test but that is because surnames are a recent tag. We basically ignore any match one gets with someone with a different surname since the link is too remote to consider seriously. To use our technique sensibly you need to be able to compare your sequence to other people of the same surname who you might be related to otherwise your results are the sound of one hand clapping! The full link for this (rather poor) article is: http://www.popsci.com/popsci/medicine/article/0,12543,567794-5,00.html "Gene Pennington" <[email protected]> 12/24/2003 12:14 PM Please respond to genepenn1 To: [email protected] cc: Subject: INTERESTING ARTICLES ABOUT DNA & GENEALOGY I thought you might enjoy reading two (2) recent articles about DNA and Genealogy. Unfortunately they are not available online yet but they should be available in your local library or if you subscribe to these two (2) magazines, you can read them. 1. January 2004 Issue of Popular Science (http://www.popsci.com/popsci/), page 78, titled "Putting the Gene Back in Genealogy". 2. November/December NGS (National Genealogical Society - www.ngsgenealogy.org) NewsMagazine, page 34, titled Non-Paternity Problems in Genealogical DNA Analysis". Both of these articles address some of the same problems we face with our DNA Study and they may help you to better understand the challenges. Gene Pennington (Group 7) Vice President Research Director Pennington Research Association, Inc. www.PenningtonResearch.org ==== PRA Mailing List ==== ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== For more information about the PRA DNA Study, visit our Web Site at http://www.penningtonresearch.org

    12/30/2003 03:55:21
    1. RE: Group 7 Obit - Thomas Clifford Pennington
    2. Carmen M. Johnson
    3. Marie, For once it wasn't me :) Actually, I copied and pasted the obit from the net. If I would have checked it - I could have fixed the problem. The date should have read 9/10/1923. Carmen Assistant Research Director - JFMF www.penningtonresearch.org PRA Family Group 7 Leader http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm -----Original Message----- From: mphumes [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 8:47 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Group 7 Obit - Thomas Clifford Pennington Carmen, I am sure by now someone has caught the error of Thomas Clifford Pennington clipping. Having him born on Sept. 10, 2003 but saying he was 79 years of age. Probably in the trans. made the error. Marie Grp 29 ----- Original Message ----- From: Carmen M. Johnson <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 7:46 PM Subject: RE: Group 7 Obit - Thomas Clifford Pennington > Rene'e, > Thank you for the compliments...remember if you see any obits in the > newspaper that reference a Pennington to either post it or send it to the > PRA so we can archive it! Hope everyone has a great new year! > > Carmen > Assistant Research Director - JFMF > www.penningtonresearch.org > PRA Family Group 7 Leader > http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm > -----Original Message----- > From: Rene'e Davis [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 3:58 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Group 7 Obit - Thomas Clifford Pennington > > Carmen, > Great job on the obits ! I especially like the addition of you taking > the time to explain how they are related to the Family Group 7. > Happy New Year to you and yours. Be safe > > Rene'e Davis, CFO > ARD, Family Groups > PRA - Group 9 > Pennington Research Association, Inc. > www.penningtonresearch.org > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carmen M. Johnson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 11:21 PM > Subject: Group 7 Obit - Thomas Clifford Pennington > > > > Same as Wayne Pennington - I think that he is a son of the Everette > > Pennington who was a son of Harvey Pennington and Martha Greer. Harvey > was > > a son of Levi Pennington and Elizabeth Henson, grandson of Levi Pennington > > and Elizabeth, and great grandson of Micajah Pennington and Rachel Jones. > > > > Thomas Clifford Pennington age 79 of Lansing, NC died Saturday, March 1, > > 2003 at his home. Mr. Pennington was born on September 10, 2003 in Ashe > > County, NC to Everett and Martha Greer Pennington. A graveside service > will > > be held Tuesday, March 4, 2003 at 12:00 at the Perry Cemetery. Rev. Jim > > Francis, Rev. Earl Woods, and Rev. Jim Greer will officiate. Mr. > Pennington > > is survived by: Wife: Ruth Barr Pennington Sons: Bill, Bobby, David, and > > Lester Pennington all of Lansing, NC Daughter: JoAnn Martin of > Warrensville, > > NC Brothers: John Henry Pennington of Jefferson, NC Wayne Pennington of > > Lansing, NC Sister: Ruth Moore of Greensboro, NC 16 Grandchildren 2 Great > > Grandchildren and several nieces and nephews. Send condolences to the > family > > by visiting our website at www.badgerfuneralhome.com Badger Funeral Home > is > > in charge of the arrangements. > > > > [email protected] > > Home Page: http://carmenj.my100megs.com > > Genealogy Page: http://genheirloom1.topcities.com/ > > Gallup Home: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gallupfam/ > > PRA Group 7: http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > To sign up to use the archive features, go to --> > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ and follow the instructions. > > Pennington Research Association Web Site > > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION List ==== > For more information about the PRA visit our Web Site at > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > Learn what's new at the PRA. To learn more, go to --> http://www.penningtonresearch.org and click on the "News" link on the left side of the page. ==== PRA Mailing List ==== ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== For more information about the PRA DNA Study, visit our Web Site at http://www.penningtonresearch.org

    12/29/2003 12:09:16
    1. Thank You Carmen
    2. Barbara
    3. Yes Carmen I second that I use your info and hard work alot for my files Barbara Hall Carlile ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rene'e Davis" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 10:43 AM Subject: Re: Group 7 Obit - Thomas Clifford Pennington > Carmen, > You are welcome and well deserve compliments for all you do for the PRA. > Yes, our new archive site at Earlham College is really going to be > something!. We should fill the whole building ! > Happy New Year, everyone > > Rene'e Davis, CFO > ARD, Family Groups > PRA - Group 9 > Pennington Research Association, Inc. > www.penningtonresearch.org > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carmen M. Johnson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 6:46 PM > Subject: RE: Group 7 Obit - Thomas Clifford Pennington > > > > Rene'e, > > Thank you for the compliments...remember if you see any obits in the > > newspaper that reference a Pennington to either post it or send it to the > > PRA so we can archive it! Hope everyone has a great new year! > > > > Carmen > > Assistant Research Director - JFMF > > www.penningtonresearch.org > > PRA Family Group 7 Leader > > http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rene'e Davis [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 3:58 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: Group 7 Obit - Thomas Clifford Pennington > > > > Carmen, > > Great job on the obits ! I especially like the addition of you taking > > the time to explain how they are related to the Family Group 7. > > Happy New Year to you and yours. Be safe > > > > Rene'e Davis, CFO > > ARD, Family Groups > > PRA - Group 9 > > Pennington Research Association, Inc. > > www.penningtonresearch.org > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Carmen M. Johnson" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 11:21 PM > > Subject: Group 7 Obit - Thomas Clifford Pennington > > > > > > > Same as Wayne Pennington - I think that he is a son of the Everette > > > Pennington who was a son of Harvey Pennington and Martha Greer. Harvey > > was > > > a son of Levi Pennington and Elizabeth Henson, grandson of Levi > Pennington > > > and Elizabeth, and great grandson of Micajah Pennington and Rachel > Jones. > > > > > > Thomas Clifford Pennington age 79 of Lansing, NC died Saturday, March 1, > > > 2003 at his home. Mr. Pennington was born on September 10, 2003 in Ashe > > > County, NC to Everett and Martha Greer Pennington. A graveside service > > will > > > be held Tuesday, March 4, 2003 at 12:00 at the Perry Cemetery. Rev. Jim > > > Francis, Rev. Earl Woods, and Rev. Jim Greer will officiate. Mr. > > Pennington > > > is survived by: Wife: Ruth Barr Pennington Sons: Bill, Bobby, David, and > > > Lester Pennington all of Lansing, NC Daughter: JoAnn Martin of > > Warrensville, > > > NC Brothers: John Henry Pennington of Jefferson, NC Wayne Pennington of > > > Lansing, NC Sister: Ruth Moore of Greensboro, NC 16 Grandchildren 2 > Great > > > Grandchildren and several nieces and nephews. Send condolences to the > > family > > > by visiting our website at www.badgerfuneralhome.com Badger Funeral Home > > is > > > in charge of the arrangements. > > > > > > [email protected] > > > Home Page: http://carmenj.my100megs.com > > > Genealogy Page: http://genheirloom1.topcities.com/ > > > Gallup Home: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gallupfam/ > > > PRA Group 7: http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > > To sign up to use the archive features, go to --> > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ and follow the instructions. > > > Pennington Research Association Web Site > > > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION List ==== > > For more information about the PRA visit our Web Site at > > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > Learn what's new at the PRA. To learn more, go to --> > http://www.penningtonresearch.org and click on the "News" link on the left > side of the page. > > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > Learn what's new at the PRA. To learn more, go to --> http://www.penningtonresearch.org and click on the "News" link on the left side of the page. >

    12/29/2003 08:35:02
    1. George wilburn pennington
    2. I am looking for information on a george wilborne pennington who married a anna huddleston in october 1849.He was born abt.1829 in North Carolina.Passed away abt 1889 buried in chadwell cemetery in White oak Tennessee.He had the following children.Cinda pennington who married a Daniel Wilson,they are both buried in Leach cemetery in speedwell tennessee,Calaway pennington, John jackson pennington,William pennington who married a Jane Reaves,Daniel Pennington who marreid a Catharine Reaves,Sara Elisabeth Pennington who married a Tom Price and moved to Tennessee,Maynard Pennington who married a Martha Chadwell and lived in White Oak Tennessee,Summer Pennington who married a nelson wilder.Any help with this line would be greatly appreciated

    12/29/2003 08:22:56
    1. Re: Group 7 Obit - Thomas Clifford Pennington
    2. mphumes
    3. Carmen, I am sure by now someone has caught the error of Thomas Clifford Pennington clipping. Having him born on Sept. 10, 2003 but saying he was 79 years of age. Probably in the trans. made the error. Marie Grp 29 ----- Original Message ----- From: Carmen M. Johnson <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 7:46 PM Subject: RE: Group 7 Obit - Thomas Clifford Pennington > Rene'e, > Thank you for the compliments...remember if you see any obits in the > newspaper that reference a Pennington to either post it or send it to the > PRA so we can archive it! Hope everyone has a great new year! > > Carmen > Assistant Research Director - JFMF > www.penningtonresearch.org > PRA Family Group 7 Leader > http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm > -----Original Message----- > From: Rene'e Davis [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 3:58 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Group 7 Obit - Thomas Clifford Pennington > > Carmen, > Great job on the obits ! I especially like the addition of you taking > the time to explain how they are related to the Family Group 7. > Happy New Year to you and yours. Be safe > > Rene'e Davis, CFO > ARD, Family Groups > PRA - Group 9 > Pennington Research Association, Inc. > www.penningtonresearch.org > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carmen M. Johnson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 11:21 PM > Subject: Group 7 Obit - Thomas Clifford Pennington > > > > Same as Wayne Pennington - I think that he is a son of the Everette > > Pennington who was a son of Harvey Pennington and Martha Greer. Harvey > was > > a son of Levi Pennington and Elizabeth Henson, grandson of Levi Pennington > > and Elizabeth, and great grandson of Micajah Pennington and Rachel Jones. > > > > Thomas Clifford Pennington age 79 of Lansing, NC died Saturday, March 1, > > 2003 at his home. Mr. Pennington was born on September 10, 2003 in Ashe > > County, NC to Everett and Martha Greer Pennington. A graveside service > will > > be held Tuesday, March 4, 2003 at 12:00 at the Perry Cemetery. Rev. Jim > > Francis, Rev. Earl Woods, and Rev. Jim Greer will officiate. Mr. > Pennington > > is survived by: Wife: Ruth Barr Pennington Sons: Bill, Bobby, David, and > > Lester Pennington all of Lansing, NC Daughter: JoAnn Martin of > Warrensville, > > NC Brothers: John Henry Pennington of Jefferson, NC Wayne Pennington of > > Lansing, NC Sister: Ruth Moore of Greensboro, NC 16 Grandchildren 2 Great > > Grandchildren and several nieces and nephews. Send condolences to the > family > > by visiting our website at www.badgerfuneralhome.com Badger Funeral Home > is > > in charge of the arrangements. > > > > [email protected] > > Home Page: http://carmenj.my100megs.com > > Genealogy Page: http://genheirloom1.topcities.com/ > > Gallup Home: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gallupfam/ > > PRA Group 7: http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > To sign up to use the archive features, go to --> > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ and follow the instructions. > > Pennington Research Association Web Site > > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION List ==== > For more information about the PRA visit our Web Site at > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > Learn what's new at the PRA. To learn more, go to --> http://www.penningtonresearch.org and click on the "News" link on the left side of the page.

    12/29/2003 03:47:18
    1. Re: Group 7 Obit - Thomas Clifford Pennington
    2. Rene'e Davis
    3. Carmen, You are welcome and well deserve compliments for all you do for the PRA. Yes, our new archive site at Earlham College is really going to be something!. We should fill the whole building ! Happy New Year, everyone Rene'e Davis, CFO ARD, Family Groups PRA - Group 9 Pennington Research Association, Inc. www.penningtonresearch.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carmen M. Johnson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 6:46 PM Subject: RE: Group 7 Obit - Thomas Clifford Pennington > Rene'e, > Thank you for the compliments...remember if you see any obits in the > newspaper that reference a Pennington to either post it or send it to the > PRA so we can archive it! Hope everyone has a great new year! > > Carmen > Assistant Research Director - JFMF > www.penningtonresearch.org > PRA Family Group 7 Leader > http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm > -----Original Message----- > From: Rene'e Davis [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 3:58 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Group 7 Obit - Thomas Clifford Pennington > > Carmen, > Great job on the obits ! I especially like the addition of you taking > the time to explain how they are related to the Family Group 7. > Happy New Year to you and yours. Be safe > > Rene'e Davis, CFO > ARD, Family Groups > PRA - Group 9 > Pennington Research Association, Inc. > www.penningtonresearch.org > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carmen M. Johnson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 11:21 PM > Subject: Group 7 Obit - Thomas Clifford Pennington > > > > Same as Wayne Pennington - I think that he is a son of the Everette > > Pennington who was a son of Harvey Pennington and Martha Greer. Harvey > was > > a son of Levi Pennington and Elizabeth Henson, grandson of Levi Pennington > > and Elizabeth, and great grandson of Micajah Pennington and Rachel Jones. > > > > Thomas Clifford Pennington age 79 of Lansing, NC died Saturday, March 1, > > 2003 at his home. Mr. Pennington was born on September 10, 2003 in Ashe > > County, NC to Everett and Martha Greer Pennington. A graveside service > will > > be held Tuesday, March 4, 2003 at 12:00 at the Perry Cemetery. Rev. Jim > > Francis, Rev. Earl Woods, and Rev. Jim Greer will officiate. Mr. > Pennington > > is survived by: Wife: Ruth Barr Pennington Sons: Bill, Bobby, David, and > > Lester Pennington all of Lansing, NC Daughter: JoAnn Martin of > Warrensville, > > NC Brothers: John Henry Pennington of Jefferson, NC Wayne Pennington of > > Lansing, NC Sister: Ruth Moore of Greensboro, NC 16 Grandchildren 2 Great > > Grandchildren and several nieces and nephews. Send condolences to the > family > > by visiting our website at www.badgerfuneralhome.com Badger Funeral Home > is > > in charge of the arrangements. > > > > [email protected] > > Home Page: http://carmenj.my100megs.com > > Genealogy Page: http://genheirloom1.topcities.com/ > > Gallup Home: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gallupfam/ > > PRA Group 7: http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > To sign up to use the archive features, go to --> > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ and follow the instructions. > > Pennington Research Association Web Site > > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION List ==== > For more information about the PRA visit our Web Site at > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > Learn what's new at the PRA. To learn more, go to --> http://www.penningtonresearch.org and click on the "News" link on the left side of the page. > >

    12/29/2003 02:43:07
    1. Re: Group 7 - Pennington Obit
    2. Carmen, I'm Ruth Klein, a descendant of Micajah Pennington and Mary Jones, through their daughter, Mary Pennington and Jesse Bowling. I appreciate your Pennington information and I thank you so much! Ruth

    12/28/2003 01:54:03
    1. Re: Group 4 - Pennington Obit
    2. This obituary was in the Tampa Tribune Dec. 10, 2003. Margaret Pennington Addison, 91 of Tampa, passed away on December 7, 2003. She was born on October 3, 1912 in Colchester, Ill, to parents Frank and Lucille Pennington. She went on to earn a BA in Fine Arts from the University of Wisconsin, and MS in Public Health from the University of North Carolina. She was a member of Alpha Gamma Delta sorority; the American Association of University Women; and a former member of the Most Holy Redeemer Woman's Club. She is survived by two sons; eight grandchildren. A graveside service will be held at 1:30 P. M., Friday, Dec. 12 at Garden of Memories Cemetery (4207 E. Lake Blvd.) Margaret attended the PRA meeting when it was held in Tampa and is from Group 4. She has contributed articles to the Pennington Pedigrees and her son is a member of PRA. Joanne Pennington Group Leader 29

    12/28/2003 12:33:57
    1. Re: Group 4 - Pennington Obit
    2. Rene'e Davis
    3. Joanne, Thank you for posting the obituary for Margaret. On behalf of the PRA, I extend our deepest sympathy to the Addison family during this most difficult time. Respectfully, Rene'e Davis, CFO ARD, Family Groups PRA - Group 9 Pennington Research Association, Inc. www.penningtonresearch.org ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 5:33 PM Subject: Re: Group 4 - Pennington Obit > This obituary was in the Tampa Tribune Dec. 10, 2003. > > Margaret Pennington Addison, 91 of Tampa, passed away on December 7, 2003. > She was born on October 3, 1912 in Colchester, Ill, to parents Frank and > Lucille Pennington. She went on to earn a BA in Fine Arts from the University of > Wisconsin, and MS in Public Health from the University of North Carolina. She > was a member of Alpha Gamma Delta sorority; the American Association of > University Women; and a former member of the Most Holy Redeemer Woman's Club. She > is survived by two sons; eight grandchildren. A graveside service will be > held at 1:30 P. M., Friday, Dec. 12 at Garden of Memories Cemetery (4207 E. Lake > Blvd.) > > Margaret attended the PRA meeting when it was held in Tampa and is from Group > 4. > She has contributed articles to the Pennington Pedigrees and her son is a > member of PRA. > > Joanne Pennington > Group Leader 29 > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > For more information about the PRA DNA Study, visit our Web Site at > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > >

    12/28/2003 11:30:11
    1. RE: Group 7 Obit - Thomas Clifford Pennington
    2. Carmen M. Johnson
    3. Rene'e, Thank you for the compliments...remember if you see any obits in the newspaper that reference a Pennington to either post it or send it to the PRA so we can archive it! Hope everyone has a great new year! Carmen Assistant Research Director - JFMF www.penningtonresearch.org PRA Family Group 7 Leader http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm -----Original Message----- From: Rene'e Davis [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 3:58 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Group 7 Obit - Thomas Clifford Pennington Carmen, Great job on the obits ! I especially like the addition of you taking the time to explain how they are related to the Family Group 7. Happy New Year to you and yours. Be safe Rene'e Davis, CFO ARD, Family Groups PRA - Group 9 Pennington Research Association, Inc. www.penningtonresearch.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carmen M. Johnson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 11:21 PM Subject: Group 7 Obit - Thomas Clifford Pennington > Same as Wayne Pennington - I think that he is a son of the Everette > Pennington who was a son of Harvey Pennington and Martha Greer. Harvey was > a son of Levi Pennington and Elizabeth Henson, grandson of Levi Pennington > and Elizabeth, and great grandson of Micajah Pennington and Rachel Jones. > > Thomas Clifford Pennington age 79 of Lansing, NC died Saturday, March 1, > 2003 at his home. Mr. Pennington was born on September 10, 2003 in Ashe > County, NC to Everett and Martha Greer Pennington. A graveside service will > be held Tuesday, March 4, 2003 at 12:00 at the Perry Cemetery. Rev. Jim > Francis, Rev. Earl Woods, and Rev. Jim Greer will officiate. Mr. Pennington > is survived by: Wife: Ruth Barr Pennington Sons: Bill, Bobby, David, and > Lester Pennington all of Lansing, NC Daughter: JoAnn Martin of Warrensville, > NC Brothers: John Henry Pennington of Jefferson, NC Wayne Pennington of > Lansing, NC Sister: Ruth Moore of Greensboro, NC 16 Grandchildren 2 Great > Grandchildren and several nieces and nephews. Send condolences to the family > by visiting our website at www.badgerfuneralhome.com Badger Funeral Home is > in charge of the arrangements. > > [email protected] > Home Page: http://carmenj.my100megs.com > Genealogy Page: http://genheirloom1.topcities.com/ > Gallup Home: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gallupfam/ > PRA Group 7: http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > To sign up to use the archive features, go to --> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ and follow the instructions. > Pennington Research Association Web Site > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION List ==== For more information about the PRA visit our Web Site at http://www.penningtonresearch.org

    12/28/2003 10:46:49
    1. Re: Group 7 Obit - Thomas Clifford Pennington
    2. Rene'e Davis
    3. Carmen, Great job on the obits ! I especially like the addition of you taking the time to explain how they are related to the Family Group 7. Happy New Year to you and yours. Be safe Rene'e Davis, CFO ARD, Family Groups PRA - Group 9 Pennington Research Association, Inc. www.penningtonresearch.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carmen M. Johnson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 11:21 PM Subject: Group 7 Obit - Thomas Clifford Pennington > Same as Wayne Pennington - I think that he is a son of the Everette > Pennington who was a son of Harvey Pennington and Martha Greer. Harvey was > a son of Levi Pennington and Elizabeth Henson, grandson of Levi Pennington > and Elizabeth, and great grandson of Micajah Pennington and Rachel Jones. > > Thomas Clifford Pennington age 79 of Lansing, NC died Saturday, March 1, > 2003 at his home. Mr. Pennington was born on September 10, 2003 in Ashe > County, NC to Everett and Martha Greer Pennington. A graveside service will > be held Tuesday, March 4, 2003 at 12:00 at the Perry Cemetery. Rev. Jim > Francis, Rev. Earl Woods, and Rev. Jim Greer will officiate. Mr. Pennington > is survived by: Wife: Ruth Barr Pennington Sons: Bill, Bobby, David, and > Lester Pennington all of Lansing, NC Daughter: JoAnn Martin of Warrensville, > NC Brothers: John Henry Pennington of Jefferson, NC Wayne Pennington of > Lansing, NC Sister: Ruth Moore of Greensboro, NC 16 Grandchildren 2 Great > Grandchildren and several nieces and nephews. Send condolences to the family > by visiting our website at www.badgerfuneralhome.com Badger Funeral Home is > in charge of the arrangements. > > [email protected] > Home Page: http://carmenj.my100megs.com > Genealogy Page: http://genheirloom1.topcities.com/ > Gallup Home: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gallupfam/ > PRA Group 7: http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > To sign up to use the archive features, go to --> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ and follow the instructions. > Pennington Research Association Web Site > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > >

    12/28/2003 09:58:00
    1. Obit Correction
    2. Carmen M. Johnson
    3. I mistakenly said that I had thought Martha Greer was married to Harvey Pennington, I was incorrect. I checked the Ashe Co., NC Cemetery books and it is Martha Brooks who was married to Harvey Pennington. Carmen [email protected] Home Page: http://carmenj.my100megs.com <http://carmenj.my100megs.com/> Genealogy Page: http://genheirloom1.topcities.com/ <http://genheirlooms.topcities.com/> Gallup Home: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gallupfam/ PRA Group 7: http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm

    12/27/2003 03:49:37