Carmen I know all that remember, we conversed before, I just want to find some one else working on Greenberry and Letitia Robbins Pennington Family (children) Barbara in OK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carmen Johnson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 10:10 AM Subject: RE: [Pennington-L] Robbins Pennington > Letitia Robbins was born in Lee Co., VA. Greenberry Pennington was a > descendant of Micajah, Jr. They are part of Group 7 - and the families are > quite prevalent in Ashe Co., NC, Lee Co., VA, and Harlan Co., KY. > > Carmen > PRA Associate Research Director - JFMF > www.penningtonresearch.org > PRA Group 7 Family Group Leader > http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm > > -----Original Message----- > From: bvirginia76 [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 10:02 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] Robbins Pennington > > Hi, Barbara > > Where did Letitia Robbins Pennington live? I have some information on the > Robbins/Pennington's of SC somewhere in my archives. It would take me some > time to look it up. It is probably saved to a floppy. If you think it > would be helpful, please let me know. My Pennington connection is a brick > wall - Ruth Pennington, who married Henry Lamb in NC. They moved to Floyd > Co., IN in 1815. Ruth's parentage has never been proven by the family > researchers with whom I am in touch. She was said to be the daughter of > Levi Pennington, but I cannot establish that connection. A theory is that > she was perhaps an orphan who was taken in by someone else. > > Virginia Morris Brown > [email protected] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 11:15 PM > Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > For more information about the PRA DNA Study, visit our Web Site at > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > For more information about the PRA DNA Study, visit our Web Site at > http://www.penningtonresearch.org >

Tom: Thank you for posting your suggestion. To help clarify how the PRA's mailing list hosted here on Rootsweb.com works, let me review the two primary purposes the PRA established the list. 1. To help with the exchange of genealogy information with other researchers who are working on the Pennington (Penington, Penitone) families. 2. To help foster discussions about the activities of the Pennington Research Association and to help keep our members informed of the activities of the Pennington Research Association. The recent discussions on our mail list have been most interesting and it is my opinion they are well within the guidelines for this list. In fact, the mail list has been more active in the past few weeks than it was a couple of months ago. Active participation by our subscribers is the key to the success of any mail list and the more our members share their research, suggestions and information with each other, the more valuable the list becomes. I do have one suggestion for you if you wish to reduce the number of messages you receive each day from our list. You may want to subscribe to our mail list in the "digest mode". To learn how to subscribe in the "digest mode", go to --> http://www.penningtonresearch.org/resources/mail_list.htm . To further clarify how the list works, you should know the list is configured to send a reply message back to the mail list when you use the "reply" or "reply to" button on your e-mail software program. If a person wants to send a "private" message to the author of a message posted on the mail list, they should copy that person's e-mail address and send a separate message directly to them - NOT to the mail list. This configuration gives both the readers of our messages and the authors the ability to send to either/or the mail list and to the author of the message. In the past when we've surveyed our members, the overwhelming majority liked the mail list configured this way because it was the "best of both worlds" because our members could read the discussions posted by everybody, or if they didn't want to read them, they could either ignore the message or delete it. I hope this helps. Please let me know if you have any more questions or suggestions. Gene Pennington (Group 7) Vice President Research Director Pennington Research Association, Inc. www.PenningtonResearch.org

I very much enjoy the replies to all the groups and unknown groups also.So you can always put my address in on the discussion as I can always hit the delete button if I don't see nothing.I have really enjoyed the impute the last 2 weeks. Peggy Camp Pennington [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Olsen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 12:08 AM Subject: Group Courtesy > Folks, please, when replying to others, do not send to the whole group. You > are clogging the email of folks not involved in your discussion. Tom > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > PRA publications are available at the PRA Web Site at > http://www.penningtonresearch.org

The Friends Historical Library at Swarthmore College in PA is one of the best places to go for research on Quaker families. I am an alum of Swarthmore and have done research in this collection. The staff is very helpful contact them for research requests (and mention that an alum sent you). http://www.swarthmore.edu/Library/friends/ Mandy Cummings Colgan - Swarthmore Class of 1990

While your's is born later; a Samuel Pennington (born in the 1765 period) is a child of Abel Pennington (d. 1819 AL) and Sarah {Sweeten}. He is mentioned in the will and various documents in Georgia and Alabama. Unfortunately, I cannot find him again after those mentions. I wonder if he went to Tennessee and had a son named Samuel? What are the other children's names? Does it say where your Samuel's parents were born? Shirley Erickson (group 11) ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 12:37 AM Subject: Re: Group Courtesy > I have enjoyed reading all of these discussions and their responses. Even the > smallest tidbit of information on any Pennington may be of some help to a > Pennington researcher that has not yet found their family (as I am one of those). > > My roadblock is Samuel Pennington born in either 1812 in Tennessee or 1795 in > Alabama. Depends which census you are looking at. I know it is the same > person as the children listed in the 1850 census in Tennessee are the same > children, only 10 years older in the 1860 census in Arkansas. His wife was Emily born > either 1814 or 1817 in NC. His mother may possibly be a Sarah born 1785 in > Virginia. This person was living with him in the 1850 census in Hardin Co > Tennessee. > > So keep these discussions going. > > Marie Jenkins Penington > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > To learn about the PRA Family Groups, visit the PRA Web Site at > http://www.penningtonresearch.org >

Tom - Sorry, but I thought the reason for the mailing list was sharing information. I would think if we were clogging the list - the webmaster would let us know. Rene'e Davis, CFO ARD, Family Groups PRA - Group 9 Pennington Research Association, Inc. www.penningtonresearch.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Olsen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 11:08 PM Subject: Group Courtesy > Folks, please, when replying to others, do not send to the whole group. You > are clogging the email of folks not involved in your discussion. Tom > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > PRA publications are available at the PRA Web Site at > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > >

Letitia Robbins was born in Lee Co., VA. Greenberry Pennington was a descendant of Micajah, Jr. They are part of Group 7 - and the families are quite prevalent in Ashe Co., NC, Lee Co., VA, and Harlan Co., KY. Carmen PRA Associate Research Director - JFMF www.penningtonresearch.org PRA Group 7 Family Group Leader http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm -----Original Message----- From: bvirginia76 [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 10:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] Robbins Pennington Hi, Barbara Where did Letitia Robbins Pennington live? I have some information on the Robbins/Pennington's of SC somewhere in my archives. It would take me some time to look it up. It is probably saved to a floppy. If you think it would be helpful, please let me know. My Pennington connection is a brick wall - Ruth Pennington, who married Henry Lamb in NC. They moved to Floyd Co., IN in 1815. Ruth's parentage has never been proven by the family researchers with whom I am in touch. She was said to be the daughter of Levi Pennington, but I cannot establish that connection. A theory is that she was perhaps an orphan who was taken in by someone else. Virginia Morris Brown [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 11:15 PM Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. ==== PRA Mailing List ==== ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== For more information about the PRA DNA Study, visit our Web Site at http://www.penningtonresearch.org

I have enjoyed reading all of these discussions and their responses. Even the smallest tidbit of information on any Pennington may be of some help to a Pennington researcher that has not yet found their family (as I am one of those). My roadblock is Samuel Pennington born in either 1812 in Tennessee or 1795 in Alabama. Depends which census you are looking at. I know it is the same person as the children listed in the 1850 census in Tennessee are the same children, only 10 years older in the 1860 census in Arkansas. His wife was Emily born either 1814 or 1817 in NC. His mother may possibly be a Sarah born 1785 in Virginia. This person was living with him in the 1850 census in Hardin Co Tennessee. So keep these discussions going. Marie Jenkins Penington

Hi, Barbara Where did Letitia Robbins Pennington live? I have some information on the Robbins/Pennington's of SC somewhere in my archives. It would take me some time to look it up. It is probably saved to a floppy. If you think it would be helpful, please let me know. My Pennington connection is a brick wall - Ruth Pennington, who married Henry Lamb in NC. They moved to Floyd Co., IN in 1815. Ruth's parentage has never been proven by the family researchers with whom I am in touch. She was said to be the daughter of Levi Pennington, but I cannot establish that connection. A theory is that she was perhaps an orphan who was taken in by someone else. Virginia Morris Brown [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 11:15 PM Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups.

Hi Cher, I'm baack! I believe that Shirley was talking about the Pennington Pedigree being the 'journal'. Actually there are three way to post (free) the information that you have. * Post a query for ancestors on the website as well as the two mailing lists - the PRA. By posting on the website the query is automatically printed in the Pennington Pedigree, free * Information that you have on Green Mount and items we all find on Pennington in various books, places - post on the mailing lists, If it is an article as your piece from Green Mount, we can put on the website (myfamily), print it in the Pennington Pedigree (Barrie Petty - Editor). Being careful to list the source and being careful on copyright material. Our Pennington Pedigrees are very important and for all of our Pennington researchers that have no computers, the Pennington Pedigree it is our only link to them. I have one member in my Family Group that I keep in touch with monthly. Sometimes I send her an email from another person, to see if it rings a bell with what she has. So, the more places we can post information the better the result and the more people share. I hope that helps. Rene'e Davis, CFO ARD, Family Groups PRA - Group 9 Pennington Research Association, Inc. www.penningtonresearch.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 8:50 AM Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > Shirley, What is "the journal" that is available to people without > computer ability? I don't know what you are talking about. I'd be happy > to share anything I have with everyone, but I mostly find this nearly > impossible to accomplish. > > What I have is this: > * I have my particular line documented back to about Ross T. Penington, > Sr. born 1820 Baltimore, MD. I have produced the GedCom for this and > submitted to PRA. > * I have documented two family grave plots in Greenmount Cemetery, > Baltimore, MD. One holds my direct family members Penington in the "Mumma" > family plot. This documentation included plotting it, photographing it and > getting the burial cards from Greenmount. > * I have done the same in Greenmount for another plot that is > Pennington, but is not so far as I am aware directly related to my > line. This is the Josiah Pennington family back to 1803. I have plotted > it, photographed it. I did not bother to get the burial cards as they do > not seem to be mine and nobody expressed interest in the info. > * I joined PRA as a member. > * I have offered to establish a new group the contains my Baltimore > Penington family. > I admit that I must be dense because I don't seem to grasp how best to work > with PRA. Just tell me what you want me to do and I will happily provide > whatever I can and share whatever I have. If you want my info. printed in > "the journal" then just explain how. That goes for all manner of other > things. I sincerely hope I am not the only dense person out here. > Cher > > > > > At 09:43 AM 01/05/2004 -0600, you wrote: > >That would be a wonderful item for the website but please consider also > >having it printed in the journal. That way those that have no computer > >ability can also enjoy. > > > >Shirley Erickson > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 1:18 PM > >Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > > > > Hi. I still have the plot plan and so forth for the Pennington Greenmount > > > Cemetery Plot that I did last year. Will you have the ability on the new > > > web site to gather documents and photos and make them available to > > > everyone? If so, I can post the entire map and the individual grave > >cards. > > > Cher > > > > > > At 10:18 AM 01/03/2004 -0700, you wrote: > > > >Hi Cheryl, > > > > I certainly understand your frustration, I can't tell you how many > > > >places I posted my relative to in hopes of finding someone. I was just > > > >stubborn and probably somewhat of a pest until I found a will probated in > >MD > > > >for my grandfather Thomas. Then I reposted that information to the PRA > >list > > > >and got lucky in finding my cousins. While finding a Family Group in the > > > >PRA to belong is helpful and the cousins that share a common ancestor > >makes > > > >everyone's tree grow like > > > >it is on hormones or something. It is also important for anyone tracking > > > >ancestors to continue working on the person they are stuck on. If you > >find > > > >them on some census, some year in someplace, follow-up in the same area > >for > > > >any probate records. While you are there, look for the marriage and go > >back > > > >to the census for the other surname. Many times I found missing family > > > >members and grandparents because they were living with the married > >inlaws. > > > > Keep posting to the lists !!! POST a family query; POST what record > >you > > > >have for the person; POST a marriage ; POST EVERYTHING and keep searching > > > >and posting everything and I promise you, you will eventually find your > > > >cousins. > > > > I agree with you, with the PRA opening the various family files we > >will > > > >be reach more people, share more information and at a much shorter time > > > >span. And with the DNA testing, if some of you haven't found your > >cousins, > > > >the DNA could at least point a finger to a group of cousins. > > > > Thanks for posting Cheryl and Bob. By the way, Cheryl I haven't > >forgot > > > >about your Ross Pennington. Oh, do you remember the cemetery plot of > > > >Pennington at Green Mount you sent me? It might help others to post the > > > >information to the mailing lists as well. We aren't able to send > >attachments > > > >to the mailing lists but at least you could post the information for the > > > >others. That is what we are all about - sharing! > > > > Hang in there - you guys ! > > > > > > > >Rene'e Davis, CFO > > > >ARD, Family Groups > > > >PRA - Group 9 > > > >Pennington Research Association, Inc. > > > >www.penningtonresearch.org > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> > > > >To: <[email protected]> > > > >Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 7:36 AM > > > >Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I certainly have shared Bob's angst and frustration with the PRA > > > > > groups. My line, which is Baltimore based is well documented but does > >not > > > > > go back far enough yet to connect to any of the PRA groups. It is all > > > >well > > > > > and good Barb to suggest that membership in PRA and in a group isn't > > > > > mandatory, but the reality is that, up until now, the focus of PRA has > > > > > understandably been on the groups where the vast majority of active > > > > > research is taking place. Those of us who have no group have been > >left > > > >out > > > > > in the cold and told to keep researching so that we can find a > >connection > > > > > to a PRA group. That's not much help, or very encouraging, frankly. > > > > > > > > > > I am happy to have joined PRA, but I frankly have found it > >anticlimatic > > > >for > > > > > the present. I am waiting with great expectation to the coming change > >in > > > > > PRA which I believe will alter it to the better. The opening up of > >ALL > > > >the > > > > > records of all these lines to everyone through the new web access > >planned, > > > > > I believe, for February is a major shift in PRA. It is welcome and it > >was > > > > > needed. When that happens, I suspect membership in PRA will become > > > > > something far more useful to all of us and being able to connect to a > > > > > particular "group" will be easier to accomplish. > > > > > > > > > > So hang in there Bob, things are about to change. Membership will be > > > > > required to access this new web based information, I believe, and that > > > > > makes sense. > > > > > > > > > > Cheryl > > > > > > > > > > At 12:56 AM 01/03/2004 -0500, you wrote: > > > > > >Dear Bob, > > > > > >You are far from the first person to become confused by the PRA > >groups. > > > > > >They were started as a way to distinguish between the different lines > >and > > > > > >when two lines were found to connect via a mutual ancestor, > > > > > >then the two lines were merged as one. I am a former member of PRA > >and > > > > > >during my years with PRA, I believed myself linked to Groups 12, 7, > >and > > > > > >later to Group 32. But these are merely tools, not mandatory in any > >way. > > > > > > > > > > > >As to the groups being mostly back to an ancestor who was found here > >on > > > > > >American soil, we are all trying to get back across that big ocean, > >but > > > > > >seldom with any success. So it looks like you may already be a step > > > > > >ahead in that your ancestors came over more recently than many of our > > > > > >ancestors. If you are a member of PRA, you may be able to start a > >group, > > > > > >if one does not appear to exist for your line. However, membership > >in > > > > > >either a Group or in PRA itself is not required to access a great > >deal of > > > > > >data through these lists. Most of us love to share with others. > > > > > > > > > > > >As to the lists, Pennington-L is an independent group owned and run > >by > > > > > >Steve Privett, and PRA-L is a list run by PRA, of course. I'd > >suggest > > > > > >remaining on the list and sending out an occasional query as you just > > > > > >did. I know there are a few folks who are over in Great Britain, who > >are > > > > > >researching as we are, for our Pennington ancestors. Possibly some > >of > > > > > >these list members may be helful to you. Otherwise, since there is > > > > > >probably a good paper trail, I'd go ahead and send off for as much as > >I > > > > > >could afford from British offices and agencies. > > > > > > > > > > > >Have you done much research with the U.S. sources? If you have been > > > > > >researching for awhile, you probably have looked at many sources of > >data > > > > > >on your family, but there may be more you might have missed. Let us > >know > > > > > >what you have tried so far. Have you checked the 1930 Census? > >Marriage > > > > > >records? Church records? Let us know. Many of us would like to > >help if > > > > > >we can. Please be careful with the data found on the internet. > > > > > >I have seen more that was proven false than was proven accurate. Try > >to > > > > > >find some primary sources, to supplement compilations and family > >history > > > > > >books, etc. These take time and effort but are worth it. > > > > > > > > > > > >Good luck, > > > > > >Barb T > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > > > > > >Please do not post virus warnings on this list. > > > > > >Practice safe e-mail habits and only open attachments you're > >expecting > > > > > >For addition virus info see http://www.symantec.com/us.index.html or > > > > > >http://www.mcafee.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > > > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > > > > > >believed to be clean. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > > > > > The threaded archives can be found at > > > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/pennington > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > > >==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > > >To learn about the PRA Family Groups, visit the PRA Web Site at > > > >http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > > > >believed to be clean. > > > > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > > For help with your research, go to > > > http://www.penningtonresearch.org and > > > click on Research Tips. > > > > > > > > >==== PRA Mailing List ==== > >==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > >PRA publications are available at the PRA Web Site at > >http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > > >-- > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > >believed to be clean. > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION List ==== > For more information about the PRA visit our Web Site at > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > >

What do you have to be to be a member of the PRA??? I recieved the magazine, but I was paying for it. I like others did not every find anyone else researching my line (Greenberry and Letitia Robbins Pennington) Thanks guys and gals for all of your help tho. Barbara in OK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shirley Erickson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 10:04 PM Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > Dear Cher, > > I think your question is very valid. Others may be equally confused. I will > certainly be happy to visit with you on all these questions as I'm sure > others will. You may email me personally at <[email protected]> or via > this PRA-L list. Other officers of the group may also want to respond to > the particular questions that concern their area of expertise. Please > forgive me if I don't answer these questions in an orderly manner but I will > certainly try. > > First, the "Journal" is the "Pennington Pedigrees" which is published twice > yearly. It includes articles by members and researchers to hopefully > further all of our research. As a member of the Pennington Research > Association, you should be receiving the Journals. You may also order back > copies of this journal for a fee. The list is available at the association > website of www.penningtonresearch.org .There is also an index available of > some of the back issues that might assist you in knowing which back issues > to order to assist in your research. Our editor is a wonderfully talented > and organized person who puts major effort into a quality publication. She > relies heavily on the membership to submit material for these publications. > The volunteer editor is Barrie Petty <[email protected]>. You can even send > the material via email to her or by snail mail. > > All our membership hopefully understands that the entire organization is > made up of volunteers interested in researching the Pennington surname and > maintaining friendships with Penningtons. There is a yearly reunion where > many of the membership (and some non-members) get together. This year's > reunion will be at Earlham College in Indiana where the newly established > Pennington archives are being housed and being overseen by member Dr. Jasper > Green Pennington (again a volunteer). These reunions are held in various > places and hosted by various members. > > You are definitely my kind of researcher. Whenever, I am researching > somewhere and see a Pennington name, I collect or photograph the information > and share it (usually via the journal). It has been amazing to me, how me > of my group 11 members do not use computers at all and contact me via the > normal mail service. In today's society, we simply take it for granted that > everyone has a computer. There is still no substitute for visiting > courthouses, libraries, cemeteries etc. to obtain the information needed to > further the research. > > Now then, you say you have offered to establish a group of your Pennington > family. I think that is a wonderful idea. There are several Ross that I've > seen in the various families. None seem to be quite as early as your's. > The earliest one I find is a Ross Benton Pennington born 1857 in > Pennsylvania. The progenitor of this group is Edmund of abt. 1753 (group > 14). Of course, this may not be your group at all. Other members may have > other ideas on what direction you might go. The Josiah you mentioned is > another one that isn't really spoken to so it may mean researching both > families to figure out which way to go. > > I'm so pleased that you've brought up all these questions. They all need to > be addressed and without the questions, the officers cannot know where the > memberships needs lie. It sounds like you have done some excellent work > on your family. Please don't give up and I would like for others to > respond as well with suggestions. > > Regards, > Shirley Erickson (group 11, Abel died 1819 Alabama and yes, I'm still > looking for his parents) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 9:50 AM > Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > Shirley, What is "the journal" that is available to people without > > computer ability? I don't know what you are talking about. I'd be happy > > to share anything I have with everyone, but I mostly find this nearly > > impossible to accomplish. > > > > What I have is this: > > * I have my particular line documented back to about Ross T. > Penington, > > Sr. born 1820 Baltimore, MD. I have produced the GedCom for this and > > submitted to PRA. > > * I have documented two family grave plots in Greenmount Cemetery, > > Baltimore, MD. One holds my direct family members Penington in the > "Mumma" > > family plot. This documentation included plotting it, photographing it > and > > getting the burial cards from Greenmount. > > * I have done the same in Greenmount for another plot that is > > Pennington, but is not so far as I am aware directly related to my > > line. This is the Josiah Pennington family back to 1803. I have plotted > > it, photographed it. I did not bother to get the burial cards as they do > > not seem to be mine and nobody expressed interest in the info. > > * I joined PRA as a member. > > * I have offered to establish a new group the contains my Baltimore > > Penington family. > > I admit that I must be dense because I don't seem to grasp how best to > work > > with PRA. Just tell me what you want me to do and I will happily provide > > whatever I can and share whatever I have. If you want my info. printed in > > "the journal" then just explain how. That goes for all manner of other > > things. I sincerely hope I am not the only dense person out here. > > Cher > > > > > > > > > > At 09:43 AM 01/05/2004 -0600, you wrote: > > >That would be a wonderful item for the website but please consider also > > >having it printed in the journal. That way those that have no computer > > >ability can also enjoy. > > > > > >Shirley Erickson > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> > > >To: <[email protected]> > > >Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 1:18 PM > > >Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > > > > > > > Hi. I still have the plot plan and so forth for the Pennington > Greenmount > > > > Cemetery Plot that I did last year. Will you have the ability on the > new > > > > web site to gather documents and photos and make them available to > > > > everyone? If so, I can post the entire map and the individual grave > > >cards. > > > > Cher > > > > > > > > At 10:18 AM 01/03/2004 -0700, you wrote: > > > > >Hi Cheryl, > > > > > I certainly understand your frustration, I can't tell you how > many > > > > >places I posted my relative to in hopes of finding someone. I was > just > > > > >stubborn and probably somewhat of a pest until I found a will > probated in > > >MD > > > > >for my grandfather Thomas. Then I reposted that information to the > PRA > > >list > > > > >and got lucky in finding my cousins. While finding a Family Group in > the > > > > >PRA to belong is helpful and the cousins that share a common ancestor > > >makes > > > > >everyone's tree grow like > > > > >it is on hormones or something. It is also important for anyone > tracking > > > > >ancestors to continue working on the person they are stuck on. If you > > >find > > > > >them on some census, some year in someplace, follow-up in the same > area > > >for > > > > >any probate records. While you are there, look for the marriage and > go > > >back > > > > >to the census for the other surname. Many times I found missing > family > > > > >members and grandparents because they were living with the married > > >inlaws. > > > > > Keep posting to the lists !!! POST a family query; POST what > record > > >you > > > > >have for the person; POST a marriage ; POST EVERYTHING and keep > searching > > > > >and posting everything and I promise you, you will eventually find > your > > > > >cousins. > > > > > I agree with you, with the PRA opening the various family files > we > > >will > > > > >be reach more people, share more information and at a much shorter > time > > > > >span. And with the DNA testing, if some of you haven't found your > > >cousins, > > > > >the DNA could at least point a finger to a group of cousins. > > > > > Thanks for posting Cheryl and Bob. By the way, Cheryl I haven't > > >forgot > > > > >about your Ross Pennington. Oh, do you remember the cemetery plot of > > > > >Pennington at Green Mount you sent me? It might help others to post > the > > > > >information to the mailing lists as well. We aren't able to send > > >attachments > > > > >to the mailing lists but at least you could post the information for > the > > > > >others. That is what we are all about - sharing! > > > > > Hang in there - you guys ! > > > > > > > > > >Rene'e Davis, CFO > > > > >ARD, Family Groups > > > > >PRA - Group 9 > > > > >Pennington Research Association, Inc. > > > > >www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > >From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> > > > > >To: <[email protected]> > > > > >Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 7:36 AM > > > > >Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I certainly have shared Bob's angst and frustration with the PRA > > > > > > groups. My line, which is Baltimore based is well documented but > does > > >not > > > > > > go back far enough yet to connect to any of the PRA groups. It is > all > > > > >well > > > > > > and good Barb to suggest that membership in PRA and in a group > isn't > > > > > > mandatory, but the reality is that, up until now, the focus of PRA > has > > > > > > understandably been on the groups where the vast majority of > active > > > > > > research is taking place. Those of us who have no group have been > > >left > > > > >out > > > > > > in the cold and told to keep researching so that we can find a > > >connection > > > > > > to a PRA group. That's not much help, or very encouraging, > frankly. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am happy to have joined PRA, but I frankly have found it > > >anticlimatic > > > > >for > > > > > > the present. I am waiting with great expectation to the coming > change > > >in > > > > > > PRA which I believe will alter it to the better. The opening up > of > > >ALL > > > > >the > > > > > > records of all these lines to everyone through the new web access > > >planned, > > > > > > I believe, for February is a major shift in PRA. It is welcome > and it > > >was > > > > > > needed. When that happens, I suspect membership in PRA will > become > > > > > > something far more useful to all of us and being able to connect > to a > > > > > > particular "group" will be easier to accomplish. > > > > > > > > > > > > So hang in there Bob, things are about to change. Membership > will be > > > > > > required to access this new web based information, I believe, and > that > > > > > > makes sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheryl > > > > > > > > > > > > At 12:56 AM 01/03/2004 -0500, you wrote: > > > > > > >Dear Bob, > > > > > > >You are far from the first person to become confused by the PRA > > >groups. > > > > > > >They were started as a way to distinguish between the different > lines > > >and > > > > > > >when two lines were found to connect via a mutual ancestor, > > > > > > >then the two lines were merged as one. I am a former member of > PRA > > >and > > > > > > >during my years with PRA, I believed myself linked to Groups 12, > 7, > > >and > > > > > > >later to Group 32. But these are merely tools, not mandatory in > any > > >way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >As to the groups being mostly back to an ancestor who was found > here > > >on > > > > > > >American soil, we are all trying to get back across that big > ocean, > > >but > > > > > > >seldom with any success. So it looks like you may already be a > step > > > > > > >ahead in that your ancestors came over more recently than many of > our > > > > > > >ancestors. If you are a member of PRA, you may be able to start > a > > >group, > > > > > > >if one does not appear to exist for your line. However, > membership > > >in > > > > > > >either a Group or in PRA itself is not required to access a great > > >deal of > > > > > > >data through these lists. Most of us love to share with others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >As to the lists, Pennington-L is an independent group owned and > run > > >by > > > > > > >Steve Privett, and PRA-L is a list run by PRA, of course. I'd > > >suggest > > > > > > >remaining on the list and sending out an occasional query as you > just > > > > > > >did. I know there are a few folks who are over in Great Britain, > who > > >are > > > > > > >researching as we are, for our Pennington ancestors. Possibly > some > > >of > > > > > > >these list members may be helful to you. Otherwise, since there > is > > > > > > >probably a good paper trail, I'd go ahead and send off for as > much as > > >I > > > > > > >could afford from British offices and agencies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Have you done much research with the U.S. sources? If you have > been > > > > > > >researching for awhile, you probably have looked at many sources > of > > >data > > > > > > >on your family, but there may be more you might have missed. Let > us > > >know > > > > > > >what you have tried so far. Have you checked the 1930 Census? > > >Marriage > > > > > > >records? Church records? Let us know. Many of us would like to > > >help if > > > > > > >we can. Please be careful with the data found on the internet. > > > > > > >I have seen more that was proven false than was proven accurate. > Try > > >to > > > > > > >find some primary sources, to supplement compilations and family > > >history > > > > > > >books, etc. These take time and effort but are worth it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Good luck, > > > > > > >Barb T > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > > > > > > >Please do not post virus warnings on this list. > > > > > > >Practice safe e-mail habits and only open attachments you're > > >expecting > > > > > > >For addition virus info see http://www.symantec.com/us.index.html > or > > > > > > >http://www.mcafee.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > > > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > > > > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > > > > > > >believed to be clean. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > > > > > > The threaded archives can be found at > > > > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/pennington > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > > > >==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > > > >To learn about the PRA Family Groups, visit the PRA Web Site at > > > > >http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > > > > >believed to be clean. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > > > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > > > For help with your research, go to > > > > http://www.penningtonresearch.org and > > > > click on Research Tips. > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > >==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > >PRA publications are available at the PRA Web Site at > > >http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > > > > > >-- > > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > > >believed to be clean. > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION List ==== > > For more information about the PRA visit our Web Site at > > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > For more information about the PRA DNA Study, visit our Web Site at > http://www.penningtonresearch.org

Folks, please, when replying to others, do not send to the whole group. You are clogging the email of folks not involved in your discussion. Tom

Dear Cher, I think your question is very valid. Others may be equally confused. I will certainly be happy to visit with you on all these questions as I'm sure others will. You may email me personally at <[email protected]> or via this PRA-L list. Other officers of the group may also want to respond to the particular questions that concern their area of expertise. Please forgive me if I don't answer these questions in an orderly manner but I will certainly try. First, the "Journal" is the "Pennington Pedigrees" which is published twice yearly. It includes articles by members and researchers to hopefully further all of our research. As a member of the Pennington Research Association, you should be receiving the Journals. You may also order back copies of this journal for a fee. The list is available at the association website of www.penningtonresearch.org .There is also an index available of some of the back issues that might assist you in knowing which back issues to order to assist in your research. Our editor is a wonderfully talented and organized person who puts major effort into a quality publication. She relies heavily on the membership to submit material for these publications. The volunteer editor is Barrie Petty <[email protected]>. You can even send the material via email to her or by snail mail. All our membership hopefully understands that the entire organization is made up of volunteers interested in researching the Pennington surname and maintaining friendships with Penningtons. There is a yearly reunion where many of the membership (and some non-members) get together. This year's reunion will be at Earlham College in Indiana where the newly established Pennington archives are being housed and being overseen by member Dr. Jasper Green Pennington (again a volunteer). These reunions are held in various places and hosted by various members. You are definitely my kind of researcher. Whenever, I am researching somewhere and see a Pennington name, I collect or photograph the information and share it (usually via the journal). It has been amazing to me, how me of my group 11 members do not use computers at all and contact me via the normal mail service. In today's society, we simply take it for granted that everyone has a computer. There is still no substitute for visiting courthouses, libraries, cemeteries etc. to obtain the information needed to further the research. Now then, you say you have offered to establish a group of your Pennington family. I think that is a wonderful idea. There are several Ross that I've seen in the various families. None seem to be quite as early as your's. The earliest one I find is a Ross Benton Pennington born 1857 in Pennsylvania. The progenitor of this group is Edmund of abt. 1753 (group 14). Of course, this may not be your group at all. Other members may have other ideas on what direction you might go. The Josiah you mentioned is another one that isn't really spoken to so it may mean researching both families to figure out which way to go. I'm so pleased that you've brought up all these questions. They all need to be addressed and without the questions, the officers cannot know where the memberships needs lie. It sounds like you have done some excellent work on your family. Please don't give up and I would like for others to respond as well with suggestions. Regards, Shirley Erickson (group 11, Abel died 1819 Alabama and yes, I'm still looking for his parents) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > Shirley, What is "the journal" that is available to people without > computer ability? I don't know what you are talking about. I'd be happy > to share anything I have with everyone, but I mostly find this nearly > impossible to accomplish. > > What I have is this: > * I have my particular line documented back to about Ross T. Penington, > Sr. born 1820 Baltimore, MD. I have produced the GedCom for this and > submitted to PRA. > * I have documented two family grave plots in Greenmount Cemetery, > Baltimore, MD. One holds my direct family members Penington in the "Mumma" > family plot. This documentation included plotting it, photographing it and > getting the burial cards from Greenmount. > * I have done the same in Greenmount for another plot that is > Pennington, but is not so far as I am aware directly related to my > line. This is the Josiah Pennington family back to 1803. I have plotted > it, photographed it. I did not bother to get the burial cards as they do > not seem to be mine and nobody expressed interest in the info. > * I joined PRA as a member. > * I have offered to establish a new group the contains my Baltimore > Penington family. > I admit that I must be dense because I don't seem to grasp how best to work > with PRA. Just tell me what you want me to do and I will happily provide > whatever I can and share whatever I have. If you want my info. printed in > "the journal" then just explain how. That goes for all manner of other > things. I sincerely hope I am not the only dense person out here. > Cher > > > > > At 09:43 AM 01/05/2004 -0600, you wrote: > >That would be a wonderful item for the website but please consider also > >having it printed in the journal. That way those that have no computer > >ability can also enjoy. > > > >Shirley Erickson > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 1:18 PM > >Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > > > > Hi. I still have the plot plan and so forth for the Pennington Greenmount > > > Cemetery Plot that I did last year. Will you have the ability on the new > > > web site to gather documents and photos and make them available to > > > everyone? If so, I can post the entire map and the individual grave > >cards. > > > Cher > > > > > > At 10:18 AM 01/03/2004 -0700, you wrote: > > > >Hi Cheryl, > > > > I certainly understand your frustration, I can't tell you how many > > > >places I posted my relative to in hopes of finding someone. I was just > > > >stubborn and probably somewhat of a pest until I found a will probated in > >MD > > > >for my grandfather Thomas. Then I reposted that information to the PRA > >list > > > >and got lucky in finding my cousins. While finding a Family Group in the > > > >PRA to belong is helpful and the cousins that share a common ancestor > >makes > > > >everyone's tree grow like > > > >it is on hormones or something. It is also important for anyone tracking > > > >ancestors to continue working on the person they are stuck on. If you > >find > > > >them on some census, some year in someplace, follow-up in the same area > >for > > > >any probate records. While you are there, look for the marriage and go > >back > > > >to the census for the other surname. Many times I found missing family > > > >members and grandparents because they were living with the married > >inlaws. > > > > Keep posting to the lists !!! POST a family query; POST what record > >you > > > >have for the person; POST a marriage ; POST EVERYTHING and keep searching > > > >and posting everything and I promise you, you will eventually find your > > > >cousins. > > > > I agree with you, with the PRA opening the various family files we > >will > > > >be reach more people, share more information and at a much shorter time > > > >span. And with the DNA testing, if some of you haven't found your > >cousins, > > > >the DNA could at least point a finger to a group of cousins. > > > > Thanks for posting Cheryl and Bob. By the way, Cheryl I haven't > >forgot > > > >about your Ross Pennington. Oh, do you remember the cemetery plot of > > > >Pennington at Green Mount you sent me? It might help others to post the > > > >information to the mailing lists as well. We aren't able to send > >attachments > > > >to the mailing lists but at least you could post the information for the > > > >others. That is what we are all about - sharing! > > > > Hang in there - you guys ! > > > > > > > >Rene'e Davis, CFO > > > >ARD, Family Groups > > > >PRA - Group 9 > > > >Pennington Research Association, Inc. > > > >www.penningtonresearch.org > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> > > > >To: <[email protected]> > > > >Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 7:36 AM > > > >Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I certainly have shared Bob's angst and frustration with the PRA > > > > > groups. My line, which is Baltimore based is well documented but does > >not > > > > > go back far enough yet to connect to any of the PRA groups. It is all > > > >well > > > > > and good Barb to suggest that membership in PRA and in a group isn't > > > > > mandatory, but the reality is that, up until now, the focus of PRA has > > > > > understandably been on the groups where the vast majority of active > > > > > research is taking place. Those of us who have no group have been > >left > > > >out > > > > > in the cold and told to keep researching so that we can find a > >connection > > > > > to a PRA group. That's not much help, or very encouraging, frankly. > > > > > > > > > > I am happy to have joined PRA, but I frankly have found it > >anticlimatic > > > >for > > > > > the present. I am waiting with great expectation to the coming change > >in > > > > > PRA which I believe will alter it to the better. The opening up of > >ALL > > > >the > > > > > records of all these lines to everyone through the new web access > >planned, > > > > > I believe, for February is a major shift in PRA. It is welcome and it > >was > > > > > needed. When that happens, I suspect membership in PRA will become > > > > > something far more useful to all of us and being able to connect to a > > > > > particular "group" will be easier to accomplish. > > > > > > > > > > So hang in there Bob, things are about to change. Membership will be > > > > > required to access this new web based information, I believe, and that > > > > > makes sense. > > > > > > > > > > Cheryl > > > > > > > > > > At 12:56 AM 01/03/2004 -0500, you wrote: > > > > > >Dear Bob, > > > > > >You are far from the first person to become confused by the PRA > >groups. > > > > > >They were started as a way to distinguish between the different lines > >and > > > > > >when two lines were found to connect via a mutual ancestor, > > > > > >then the two lines were merged as one. I am a former member of PRA > >and > > > > > >during my years with PRA, I believed myself linked to Groups 12, 7, > >and > > > > > >later to Group 32. But these are merely tools, not mandatory in any > >way. > > > > > > > > > > > >As to the groups being mostly back to an ancestor who was found here > >on > > > > > >American soil, we are all trying to get back across that big ocean, > >but > > > > > >seldom with any success. So it looks like you may already be a step > > > > > >ahead in that your ancestors came over more recently than many of our > > > > > >ancestors. If you are a member of PRA, you may be able to start a > >group, > > > > > >if one does not appear to exist for your line. However, membership > >in > > > > > >either a Group or in PRA itself is not required to access a great > >deal of > > > > > >data through these lists. Most of us love to share with others. > > > > > > > > > > > >As to the lists, Pennington-L is an independent group owned and run > >by > > > > > >Steve Privett, and PRA-L is a list run by PRA, of course. I'd > >suggest > > > > > >remaining on the list and sending out an occasional query as you just > > > > > >did. I know there are a few folks who are over in Great Britain, who > >are > > > > > >researching as we are, for our Pennington ancestors. Possibly some > >of > > > > > >these list members may be helful to you. Otherwise, since there is > > > > > >probably a good paper trail, I'd go ahead and send off for as much as > >I > > > > > >could afford from British offices and agencies. > > > > > > > > > > > >Have you done much research with the U.S. sources? If you have been > > > > > >researching for awhile, you probably have looked at many sources of > >data > > > > > >on your family, but there may be more you might have missed. Let us > >know > > > > > >what you have tried so far. Have you checked the 1930 Census? > >Marriage > > > > > >records? Church records? Let us know. Many of us would like to > >help if > > > > > >we can. Please be careful with the data found on the internet. > > > > > >I have seen more that was proven false than was proven accurate. Try > >to > > > > > >find some primary sources, to supplement compilations and family > >history > > > > > >books, etc. These take time and effort but are worth it. > > > > > > > > > > > >Good luck, > > > > > >Barb T > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > > > > > >Please do not post virus warnings on this list. > > > > > >Practice safe e-mail habits and only open attachments you're > >expecting > > > > > >For addition virus info see http://www.symantec.com/us.index.html or > > > > > >http://www.mcafee.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > > > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > > > > > >believed to be clean. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > > > > > The threaded archives can be found at > > > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/pennington > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > > >==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > > >To learn about the PRA Family Groups, visit the PRA Web Site at > > > >http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > > > >believed to be clean. > > > > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > > For help with your research, go to > > > http://www.penningtonresearch.org and > > > click on Research Tips. > > > > > > > > >==== PRA Mailing List ==== > >==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > >PRA publications are available at the PRA Web Site at > >http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > > >-- > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > >believed to be clean. > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION List ==== > For more information about the PRA visit our Web Site at > http://www.penningtonresearch.org >

Subject: Marion S. Pennington Obit http://www.commercialappeal.com/mca/archive/0,1426,MCA_561_12-19-2003,00.html December 19, 2003 MEMPHIS AREA DEATHS Through Thursday, Dec. 18 MARION S. PENNINGTON, 78, of Memphis, retired Circuit Court secretary, died Thursday at Baptist Memorial Hospital-Memphis. Services will be at 10 a.m. Monday at Memphis Funeral Home Poplar Chapel with burial in Memorial Park. She was a member of Earnest Workers Sunday School Class at Evergreen Presbyterian Church. Mrs. Pennington, the widow of David E. Pennington, leaves two sons, D. Mike Pennington of Rochester Hills, Mich., and Mark Pennington of Hudson, Ohio, and a sister, Elmer Lewis of Memphis. The family requests that any memorials be sent to Trezevant Manor Retirement Community.

Shirley, What is "the journal" that is available to people without computer ability? I don't know what you are talking about. I'd be happy to share anything I have with everyone, but I mostly find this nearly impossible to accomplish. What I have is this: * I have my particular line documented back to about Ross T. Penington, Sr. born 1820 Baltimore, MD. I have produced the GedCom for this and submitted to PRA. * I have documented two family grave plots in Greenmount Cemetery, Baltimore, MD. One holds my direct family members Penington in the "Mumma" family plot. This documentation included plotting it, photographing it and getting the burial cards from Greenmount. * I have done the same in Greenmount for another plot that is Pennington, but is not so far as I am aware directly related to my line. This is the Josiah Pennington family back to 1803. I have plotted it, photographed it. I did not bother to get the burial cards as they do not seem to be mine and nobody expressed interest in the info. * I joined PRA as a member. * I have offered to establish a new group the contains my Baltimore Penington family. I admit that I must be dense because I don't seem to grasp how best to work with PRA. Just tell me what you want me to do and I will happily provide whatever I can and share whatever I have. If you want my info. printed in "the journal" then just explain how. That goes for all manner of other things. I sincerely hope I am not the only dense person out here. Cher At 09:43 AM 01/05/2004 -0600, you wrote: >That would be a wonderful item for the website but please consider also >having it printed in the journal. That way those that have no computer >ability can also enjoy. > >Shirley Erickson >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 1:18 PM >Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > Hi. I still have the plot plan and so forth for the Pennington Greenmount > > Cemetery Plot that I did last year. Will you have the ability on the new > > web site to gather documents and photos and make them available to > > everyone? If so, I can post the entire map and the individual grave >cards. > > Cher > > > > At 10:18 AM 01/03/2004 -0700, you wrote: > > >Hi Cheryl, > > > I certainly understand your frustration, I can't tell you how many > > >places I posted my relative to in hopes of finding someone. I was just > > >stubborn and probably somewhat of a pest until I found a will probated in >MD > > >for my grandfather Thomas. Then I reposted that information to the PRA >list > > >and got lucky in finding my cousins. While finding a Family Group in the > > >PRA to belong is helpful and the cousins that share a common ancestor >makes > > >everyone's tree grow like > > >it is on hormones or something. It is also important for anyone tracking > > >ancestors to continue working on the person they are stuck on. If you >find > > >them on some census, some year in someplace, follow-up in the same area >for > > >any probate records. While you are there, look for the marriage and go >back > > >to the census for the other surname. Many times I found missing family > > >members and grandparents because they were living with the married >inlaws. > > > Keep posting to the lists !!! POST a family query; POST what record >you > > >have for the person; POST a marriage ; POST EVERYTHING and keep searching > > >and posting everything and I promise you, you will eventually find your > > >cousins. > > > I agree with you, with the PRA opening the various family files we >will > > >be reach more people, share more information and at a much shorter time > > >span. And with the DNA testing, if some of you haven't found your >cousins, > > >the DNA could at least point a finger to a group of cousins. > > > Thanks for posting Cheryl and Bob. By the way, Cheryl I haven't >forgot > > >about your Ross Pennington. Oh, do you remember the cemetery plot of > > >Pennington at Green Mount you sent me? It might help others to post the > > >information to the mailing lists as well. We aren't able to send >attachments > > >to the mailing lists but at least you could post the information for the > > >others. That is what we are all about - sharing! > > > Hang in there - you guys ! > > > > > >Rene'e Davis, CFO > > >ARD, Family Groups > > >PRA - Group 9 > > >Pennington Research Association, Inc. > > >www.penningtonresearch.org > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> > > >To: <[email protected]> > > >Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 7:36 AM > > >Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > > > > > > > I certainly have shared Bob's angst and frustration with the PRA > > > > groups. My line, which is Baltimore based is well documented but does >not > > > > go back far enough yet to connect to any of the PRA groups. It is all > > >well > > > > and good Barb to suggest that membership in PRA and in a group isn't > > > > mandatory, but the reality is that, up until now, the focus of PRA has > > > > understandably been on the groups where the vast majority of active > > > > research is taking place. Those of us who have no group have been >left > > >out > > > > in the cold and told to keep researching so that we can find a >connection > > > > to a PRA group. That's not much help, or very encouraging, frankly. > > > > > > > > I am happy to have joined PRA, but I frankly have found it >anticlimatic > > >for > > > > the present. I am waiting with great expectation to the coming change >in > > > > PRA which I believe will alter it to the better. The opening up of >ALL > > >the > > > > records of all these lines to everyone through the new web access >planned, > > > > I believe, for February is a major shift in PRA. It is welcome and it >was > > > > needed. When that happens, I suspect membership in PRA will become > > > > something far more useful to all of us and being able to connect to a > > > > particular "group" will be easier to accomplish. > > > > > > > > So hang in there Bob, things are about to change. Membership will be > > > > required to access this new web based information, I believe, and that > > > > makes sense. > > > > > > > > Cheryl > > > > > > > > At 12:56 AM 01/03/2004 -0500, you wrote: > > > > >Dear Bob, > > > > >You are far from the first person to become confused by the PRA >groups. > > > > >They were started as a way to distinguish between the different lines >and > > > > >when two lines were found to connect via a mutual ancestor, > > > > >then the two lines were merged as one. I am a former member of PRA >and > > > > >during my years with PRA, I believed myself linked to Groups 12, 7, >and > > > > >later to Group 32. But these are merely tools, not mandatory in any >way. > > > > > > > > > >As to the groups being mostly back to an ancestor who was found here >on > > > > >American soil, we are all trying to get back across that big ocean, >but > > > > >seldom with any success. So it looks like you may already be a step > > > > >ahead in that your ancestors came over more recently than many of our > > > > >ancestors. If you are a member of PRA, you may be able to start a >group, > > > > >if one does not appear to exist for your line. However, membership >in > > > > >either a Group or in PRA itself is not required to access a great >deal of > > > > >data through these lists. Most of us love to share with others. > > > > > > > > > >As to the lists, Pennington-L is an independent group owned and run >by > > > > >Steve Privett, and PRA-L is a list run by PRA, of course. I'd >suggest > > > > >remaining on the list and sending out an occasional query as you just > > > > >did. I know there are a few folks who are over in Great Britain, who >are > > > > >researching as we are, for our Pennington ancestors. Possibly some >of > > > > >these list members may be helful to you. Otherwise, since there is > > > > >probably a good paper trail, I'd go ahead and send off for as much as >I > > > > >could afford from British offices and agencies. > > > > > > > > > >Have you done much research with the U.S. sources? If you have been > > > > >researching for awhile, you probably have looked at many sources of >data > > > > >on your family, but there may be more you might have missed. Let us >know > > > > >what you have tried so far. Have you checked the 1930 Census? >Marriage > > > > >records? Church records? Let us know. Many of us would like to >help if > > > > >we can. Please be careful with the data found on the internet. > > > > >I have seen more that was proven false than was proven accurate. Try >to > > > > >find some primary sources, to supplement compilations and family >history > > > > >books, etc. These take time and effort but are worth it. > > > > > > > > > >Good luck, > > > > >Barb T > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > > > > >Please do not post virus warnings on this list. > > > > >Practice safe e-mail habits and only open attachments you're >expecting > > > > >For addition virus info see http://www.symantec.com/us.index.html or > > > > >http://www.mcafee.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > > > > >believed to be clean. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > > > > The threaded archives can be found at > > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/pennington > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > >==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > >To learn about the PRA Family Groups, visit the PRA Web Site at > > >http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > > > > > >-- > > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > > >believed to be clean. > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > For help with your research, go to > > http://www.penningtonresearch.org and > > click on Research Tips. > > > > >==== PRA Mailing List ==== >==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== >PRA publications are available at the PRA Web Site at >http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean.

That would be a wonderful item for the website but please consider also having it printed in the journal. That way those that have no computer ability can also enjoy. Shirley Erickson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > Hi. I still have the plot plan and so forth for the Pennington Greenmount > Cemetery Plot that I did last year. Will you have the ability on the new > web site to gather documents and photos and make them available to > everyone? If so, I can post the entire map and the individual grave cards. > Cher > > At 10:18 AM 01/03/2004 -0700, you wrote: > >Hi Cheryl, > > I certainly understand your frustration, I can't tell you how many > >places I posted my relative to in hopes of finding someone. I was just > >stubborn and probably somewhat of a pest until I found a will probated in MD > >for my grandfather Thomas. Then I reposted that information to the PRA list > >and got lucky in finding my cousins. While finding a Family Group in the > >PRA to belong is helpful and the cousins that share a common ancestor makes > >everyone's tree grow like > >it is on hormones or something. It is also important for anyone tracking > >ancestors to continue working on the person they are stuck on. If you find > >them on some census, some year in someplace, follow-up in the same area for > >any probate records. While you are there, look for the marriage and go back > >to the census for the other surname. Many times I found missing family > >members and grandparents because they were living with the married inlaws. > > Keep posting to the lists !!! POST a family query; POST what record you > >have for the person; POST a marriage ; POST EVERYTHING and keep searching > >and posting everything and I promise you, you will eventually find your > >cousins. > > I agree with you, with the PRA opening the various family files we will > >be reach more people, share more information and at a much shorter time > >span. And with the DNA testing, if some of you haven't found your cousins, > >the DNA could at least point a finger to a group of cousins. > > Thanks for posting Cheryl and Bob. By the way, Cheryl I haven't forgot > >about your Ross Pennington. Oh, do you remember the cemetery plot of > >Pennington at Green Mount you sent me? It might help others to post the > >information to the mailing lists as well. We aren't able to send attachments > >to the mailing lists but at least you could post the information for the > >others. That is what we are all about - sharing! > > Hang in there - you guys ! > > > >Rene'e Davis, CFO > >ARD, Family Groups > >PRA - Group 9 > >Pennington Research Association, Inc. > >www.penningtonresearch.org > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 7:36 AM > >Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > > > > I certainly have shared Bob's angst and frustration with the PRA > > > groups. My line, which is Baltimore based is well documented but does not > > > go back far enough yet to connect to any of the PRA groups. It is all > >well > > > and good Barb to suggest that membership in PRA and in a group isn't > > > mandatory, but the reality is that, up until now, the focus of PRA has > > > understandably been on the groups where the vast majority of active > > > research is taking place. Those of us who have no group have been left > >out > > > in the cold and told to keep researching so that we can find a connection > > > to a PRA group. That's not much help, or very encouraging, frankly. > > > > > > I am happy to have joined PRA, but I frankly have found it anticlimatic > >for > > > the present. I am waiting with great expectation to the coming change in > > > PRA which I believe will alter it to the better. The opening up of ALL > >the > > > records of all these lines to everyone through the new web access planned, > > > I believe, for February is a major shift in PRA. It is welcome and it was > > > needed. When that happens, I suspect membership in PRA will become > > > something far more useful to all of us and being able to connect to a > > > particular "group" will be easier to accomplish. > > > > > > So hang in there Bob, things are about to change. Membership will be > > > required to access this new web based information, I believe, and that > > > makes sense. > > > > > > Cheryl > > > > > > At 12:56 AM 01/03/2004 -0500, you wrote: > > > >Dear Bob, > > > >You are far from the first person to become confused by the PRA groups. > > > >They were started as a way to distinguish between the different lines and > > > >when two lines were found to connect via a mutual ancestor, > > > >then the two lines were merged as one. I am a former member of PRA and > > > >during my years with PRA, I believed myself linked to Groups 12, 7, and > > > >later to Group 32. But these are merely tools, not mandatory in any way. > > > > > > > >As to the groups being mostly back to an ancestor who was found here on > > > >American soil, we are all trying to get back across that big ocean, but > > > >seldom with any success. So it looks like you may already be a step > > > >ahead in that your ancestors came over more recently than many of our > > > >ancestors. If you are a member of PRA, you may be able to start a group, > > > >if one does not appear to exist for your line. However, membership in > > > >either a Group or in PRA itself is not required to access a great deal of > > > >data through these lists. Most of us love to share with others. > > > > > > > >As to the lists, Pennington-L is an independent group owned and run by > > > >Steve Privett, and PRA-L is a list run by PRA, of course. I'd suggest > > > >remaining on the list and sending out an occasional query as you just > > > >did. I know there are a few folks who are over in Great Britain, who are > > > >researching as we are, for our Pennington ancestors. Possibly some of > > > >these list members may be helful to you. Otherwise, since there is > > > >probably a good paper trail, I'd go ahead and send off for as much as I > > > >could afford from British offices and agencies. > > > > > > > >Have you done much research with the U.S. sources? If you have been > > > >researching for awhile, you probably have looked at many sources of data > > > >on your family, but there may be more you might have missed. Let us know > > > >what you have tried so far. Have you checked the 1930 Census? Marriage > > > >records? Church records? Let us know. Many of us would like to help if > > > >we can. Please be careful with the data found on the internet. > > > >I have seen more that was proven false than was proven accurate. Try to > > > >find some primary sources, to supplement compilations and family history > > > >books, etc. These take time and effort but are worth it. > > > > > > > >Good luck, > > > >Barb T > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > > > >Please do not post virus warnings on this list. > > > >Practice safe e-mail habits and only open attachments you're expecting > > > >For addition virus info see http://www.symantec.com/us.index.html or > > > >http://www.mcafee.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > > > >believed to be clean. > > > > > > > > > ==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > > > The threaded archives can be found at > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/pennington > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PRA Mailing List ==== > >==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > >To learn about the PRA Family Groups, visit the PRA Web Site at > >http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > > >-- > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > >believed to be clean. > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > For help with your research, go to > http://www.penningtonresearch.org and > click on Research Tips. >

Hello all, As in all research, we all get to stumbling blocks. Thus the various groups. There can be as many groups as there are stumbling blocks. These are the hurdles that we must all get past to link the various groups together. We are all in the same boat. My block is Abel died 1819 Alabama and wife Sarah [Sweeten?]. Much is known about him but we do not know his father. We may never know. DNA gives some indication which is kind of what we thought but that group's progenitor is actually younger than mine so it wouldn't really get us any further back, at this time. Come join the search. The Association is not meant to give any absolutes but it does give a journal for you to see what has and will be accomplished. There are clues within that we all use to further our own research. At this point, I satisfy my own curiosity with linking up the descendants while continuing the search for ancestors. Hope this helps. Consider printing your query in the journal. It goes to libraries and membership that does not have computer access (yes there are still many of those out there). As in all research, there are mistakes made. We all try to correct those mistakes as we find them. Shirley Erickson (group 11)

HI Brian, Excuse my delay in replying. No, you don't have to have a group - but it sure helps your tree to grow .. With the information that you have given, it does appear that you belong to Family Group 2. It may also be a possibility that Grp. 2 belongs to 9. Currently, we (PRA) do not have a Group Leader for Group 2. So, it is difficult to work on the possible link to my Grp. 9. I do have a Jacob Pennington born about 1770 but he married a Rebecca. The children you list are similar but I have Elizabeth, George, Lydia and Rachel. I don't know if that helps or hinders you but I'll help if I can. If you want to pursue your Pennington line, you might want look into volunteering for the Family Grp. 2 Leader. If you are interested take a look at the guidelines for becoming a Family Group Leader on our website at www.penningtonresearch.org. There are 3 other Grp. 2 cousins. One does not have email. Brian, it may help you to subscribe to the PRA mailing list alsoand post your message. <click here> [email protected] and type SUBSCRIBE on the subject line. That's it and it's free. Maybe one of the cousins can help us further. Let me know if I can help further. Have a good week ! Rene'e Davis, CFO ARD, Family Groups PRA - Group 9 Pennington Research Association, Inc. www.penningtonresearch.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian L. Cartwright" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 8:40 PM Subject: [Pennington-L] Do I Need a New Group? > OK, I've been lurking out here long enough...although not the first time I've discussed my line on the list, it's been awhile. > > I am descended from the 2nd largest concentration of Penningtons in Pennsylvania (southwest Clearfield Co and vicinity), but we don't seme to be members of a PRA group yet. > > Not being a paying member of the PRA, I haven't been able to get access to the complete set of info on central Pa, but here's what I do know/ > > Group 2 is headed by Rev Robert Pennington 1754-1826 of Potter Twp, Centre Co, Pa. Robert was married to Rebecca Benn 1756-1824, daughter of Henry Benn. The Benns were from the Appoquinimink Hundred, New Castle County, Delaware, and Henry is found in the tax lists there from 1777-1783. Both Henry Benn and Robert Pennington signed the Oath of Allegiance in Delaware Aug 8, 1778, although Robert Pennington served on the Maryland Line in the Revolution. From 1785 onwards, Robert Pennington and Henry Benn are found in the tax lists of Potter Twp, Mifflin (later Centre) Co, Pa. This is in the immediate vicinity of Group 9, but no one seems to have documented Robert's parents. > > But, Robert is not my Pennington. Jacob Pennington (not descended from Robert, who had only one child, Henry) was born between 1765 and 1770, per various census records, and died in 1823 in Potter Twp. The earliest appearance on a tax list that I have record of is in 1808. Jacob married Lydia, and their children were Simon 1800, John 1802, Jacob 1804, Robert (my ancestor) 1805, Henry 1810, Peggy 1815 and Lydia 1818. > > Simon was in Chest Twp, Clearfield Co in 1830; Venango Co in 1840; and Seneca Co, Ohio in 1850. > John has not been found as an adult > Jacob was in Potter Twp, Centre Co in 1830; Harris Twp, Centre Co in 1840; Chest Twp, Clearfield Co from 1850-1880 > Robert was in Chest Twp, Clearfield Co from 1830-1880 > Henry was in Potter Twp, Centre Co from 1830-1850; Gulich Twp, Clearfield Co in 1860; White Twp, Cambria Co in 1870; Woodward Twp, Clearfield Co in 1880. > > I have no documents showing Jacob Pennington's father, but have one strong possibility. The "History of Clearfield Co" shows that at the same time (1785) that Robert Pennington and Henry Benn appeared on the tax lists in Potter Twp, there also appeared an Isaac Pennington. Isaac was listed in the 1790 census of Potter Twp, Mifflin Co, (9 lines fron Robert Pennington), with 2 males over 16, 3 females, and 1 non-white. the family would appear to consist of Isaac, son Jacob (age 20-25), wife, 2 daughters, and one slave. I have not been able to find any reference to Isaac Pennington after the 1790 census, and I have not found Jacob in the 1800 census. > > My best guess would be that Isaac Pennington would have been born around 1735-1740, give or take 5 or 10 years. I think it quite likely that he arrived with Robert Pennington and Henry Benn, but I am unsure of what relationship Isaac may have had to Robert (cousin?, brother?, father?). I am hoping that this info can be matched with someone in northeast Maryland or the adjoining areas of northern Delaware. > > Brian Cartwright > Manassas Park VA > > > ==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > Please respect people's copyright protection and only repost > or publish their info after getting their written approval. > >

Received 01/04/2004 Virginia Brown Obituary Daily Times v10 #004 PENNINGTON, Marion S ( ); 78; Memphis TN; Com-A; 2003-12-19; mjcw

Howdy Cher, Yes, there are future plans to share photos, stories, etc. Gene and Carmen have done a great job finding us a site where we have plenty of space and some wonderful perks to help us all share with each other. I say future plans because we have a few bugs for Gene to work out on the new site. Then it will take time for all the members to learn there way around and get them comfortable with everything. After that we should be able to work on that aspect of the website to share that those types of things. I might also suggest that you publish your findings in our Pennington Pedigree. Maybe some history about the cemetery and what you know about the Pennington's buried there, you could even add a picture of the cemetery and church if there is one. If you want to contact Barrie Petty, Editor of the Pedigree her address is [email protected] I'm sure she will be able to guide you through things, she does an excellent job for the PRA and it's publications. Have a good wekend. Rene'e Davis, CFO ARD, Family Groups PRA - Group 9 Pennington Research Association, Inc. www.penningtonresearch.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > Hi. I still have the plot plan and so forth for the Pennington Greenmount > Cemetery Plot that I did last year. Will you have the ability on the new > web site to gather documents and photos and make them available to > everyone? If so, I can post the entire map and the individual grave cards. > Cher > > At 10:18 AM 01/03/2004 -0700, you wrote: > >Hi Cheryl, > > I certainly understand your frustration, I can't tell you how many > >places I posted my relative to in hopes of finding someone. I was just > >stubborn and probably somewhat of a pest until I found a will probated in MD > >for my grandfather Thomas. Then I reposted that information to the PRA list > >and got lucky in finding my cousins. While finding a Family Group in the > >PRA to belong is helpful and the cousins that share a common ancestor makes > >everyone's tree grow like > >it is on hormones or something. It is also important for anyone tracking > >ancestors to continue working on the person they are stuck on. If you find > >them on some census, some year in someplace, follow-up in the same area for > >any probate records. While you are there, look for the marriage and go back > >to the census for the other surname. Many times I found missing family > >members and grandparents because they were living with the married inlaws. > > Keep posting to the lists !!! POST a family query; POST what record you > >have for the person; POST a marriage ; POST EVERYTHING and keep searching > >and posting everything and I promise you, you will eventually find your > >cousins. > > I agree with you, with the PRA opening the various family files we will > >be reach more people, share more information and at a much shorter time > >span. And with the DNA testing, if some of you haven't found your cousins, > >the DNA could at least point a finger to a group of cousins. > > Thanks for posting Cheryl and Bob. By the way, Cheryl I haven't forgot > >about your Ross Pennington. Oh, do you remember the cemetery plot of > >Pennington at Green Mount you sent me? It might help others to post the > >information to the mailing lists as well. We aren't able to send attachments > >to the mailing lists but at least you could post the information for the > >others. That is what we are all about - sharing! > > Hang in there - you guys ! > > > >Rene'e Davis, CFO > >ARD, Family Groups > >PRA - Group 9 > >Pennington Research Association, Inc. > >www.penningtonresearch.org > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 7:36 AM > >Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > > > > I certainly have shared Bob's angst and frustration with the PRA > > > groups. My line, which is Baltimore based is well documented but does not > > > go back far enough yet to connect to any of the PRA groups. It is all > >well > > > and good Barb to suggest that membership in PRA and in a group isn't > > > mandatory, but the reality is that, up until now, the focus of PRA has > > > understandably been on the groups where the vast majority of active > > > research is taking place. Those of us who have no group have been left > >out > > > in the cold and told to keep researching so that we can find a connection > > > to a PRA group. That's not much help, or very encouraging, frankly. > > > > > > I am happy to have joined PRA, but I frankly have found it anticlimatic > >for > > > the present. I am waiting with great expectation to the coming change in > > > PRA which I believe will alter it to the better. The opening up of ALL > >the > > > records of all these lines to everyone through the new web access planned, > > > I believe, for February is a major shift in PRA. It is welcome and it was > > > needed. When that happens, I suspect membership in PRA will become > > > something far more useful to all of us and being able to connect to a > > > particular "group" will be easier to accomplish. > > > > > > So hang in there Bob, things are about to change. Membership will be > > > required to access this new web based information, I believe, and that > > > makes sense. > > > > > > Cheryl > > > > > > At 12:56 AM 01/03/2004 -0500, you wrote: > > > >Dear Bob, > > > >You are far from the first person to become confused by the PRA groups. > > > >They were started as a way to distinguish between the different lines and > > > >when two lines were found to connect via a mutual ancestor, > > > >then the two lines were merged as one. I am a former member of PRA and > > > >during my years with PRA, I believed myself linked to Groups 12, 7, and > > > >later to Group 32. But these are merely tools, not mandatory in any way. > > > > > > > >As to the groups being mostly back to an ancestor who was found here on > > > >American soil, we are all trying to get back across that big ocean, but > > > >seldom with any success. So it looks like you may already be a step > > > >ahead in that your ancestors came over more recently than many of our > > > >ancestors. If you are a member of PRA, you may be able to start a group, > > > >if one does not appear to exist for your line. However, membership in > > > >either a Group or in PRA itself is not required to access a great deal of > > > >data through these lists. Most of us love to share with others. > > > > > > > >As to the lists, Pennington-L is an independent group owned and run by > > > >Steve Privett, and PRA-L is a list run by PRA, of course. I'd suggest > > > >remaining on the list and sending out an occasional query as you just > > > >did. I know there are a few folks who are over in Great Britain, who are > > > >researching as we are, for our Pennington ancestors. Possibly some of > > > >these list members may be helful to you. Otherwise, since there is > > > >probably a good paper trail, I'd go ahead and send off for as much as I > > > >could afford from British offices and agencies. > > > > > > > >Have you done much research with the U.S. sources? If you have been > > > >researching for awhile, you probably have looked at many sources of data > > > >on your family, but there may be more you might have missed. Let us know > > > >what you have tried so far. Have you checked the 1930 Census? Marriage > > > >records? Church records? Let us know. Many of us would like to help if > > > >we can. Please be careful with the data found on the internet. > > > >I have seen more that was proven false than was proven accurate. Try to > > > >find some primary sources, to supplement compilations and family history > > > >books, etc. These take time and effort but are worth it. > > > > > > > >Good luck, > > > >Barb T > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > > > >Please do not post virus warnings on this list. > > > >Practice safe e-mail habits and only open attachments you're expecting > > > >For addition virus info see http://www.symantec.com/us.index.html or > > > >http://www.mcafee.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > > > >believed to be clean. > > > > > > > > > ==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > > > The threaded archives can be found at > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/pennington > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PRA Mailing List ==== > >==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > >To learn about the PRA Family Groups, visit the PRA Web Site at > >http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > > >-- > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > >believed to be clean. > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > For help with your research, go to > http://www.penningtonresearch.org and > click on Research Tips. > >