Another researcher sent me this information that I think will be of interest to researchers of the Hood/Pennington surnames. Elias Green Pennington and Julia Ann Hood are mentioned on the Group 22 page at --> http://penningtonresearch.org/family_groups/fg2000-22.htm . Gene Pennington (Group 7) Vice President Research Director Pennington Research Association, Inc. www.PenningtonResearch.org ========================================================== I think your Julia Ann Hood could be the daughter of William B. Hood and Charlotte Parker of Carroll County TN. Julia Ann Pennington is listed as a daughter in the will of William B. Hood, proved in Carroll County, TN in August of 1842. I believe that Julia Ann Hood's Mother, Charlotte Parker was a sister to the Reverend and Dr. John Parker of Parker Crossroad's (Henderson County),Tennessee. Charlotte and Reverend John Parker were the children of John Parker, Sr. of Wake County, North Carolina. An abstract of John Parker Sr.'s will can be found in Abstract of Wake County Will Book 7 1804 - 1808. Sources: 1. http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/tn/carroll/wills/hoodw109.txt Will of William B. Hood Sincerely, Tina [[email protected]] End

A friend of mine who is researching the Steward/t surname sent me this information. I thought it might help somebody researching John Pennington, d. abt. 1773, VA and his daughter, Lucretia Pennington lineage in AL, GA, VA, KY, TN. Gene Pennington (Group 7) Vice President Research Director Pennington Research Association, Inc. www.PenningtonResearch.org ================================================ Thanks to Gary Williams, Clerk of the Circuit Court, Sussex VA, the mystery has been solved as to the wife of JOHN Steward/t, son of William Stuart/Steward and Mary Shands of Sussex VA. John's wife was Lucretia Pennington as proved by her father JOHN PENNINGTON'S will, dated 1773, and in the settlement papers of 1793. His daughter is named Lucretia Stewart. This confirms that John Steward's wife WAS NOT Lucretia Parker, daughter of Drury Parker of Southampton VA. The children of John and Lucretia Pennington Stuart/Steward were (1) William B. Steward who moved to Greene Co, GA, then to Lowndes Co, Alabama, by 1819; (2) Elizabeth Steward who married (George) Gray Gilliam in 1795 in Sussex VA, moving to Logan Co, KY, and then settling in Weakly Co, TN; and (3) Frederick P. Stuart who married Cassandra Jones and moved to Logan Co, KY. This confirms what researchers of Frederick P. Stuart have stated for many, many years. Peggy A. Givens http://www.angelfire.com/ok/PeggyAGivens End

Hi Carmen, Give me a chance to dig in my archives for the information you requested. I have been away from doing much research due to extended illness, and some facts are rather "fuzzy." (Maybe due to medication!) I do know that Henry and Ruth were married in Randolph Co., NC. So far as I know, none of their children were born in Indiana, but I can't remember the date Henry and Ruth were married. I am descended through their child, Josiah. I have the descendency of Ruth from several sources, but there seem to be possible errors, and certainly a difference of opinion as to the authenticity of Ruth's line. I will send you what I have as soon as I can find it. Thanks very much for your message. Virginia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carmen M. Johnson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 11:19 PM Subject: RE: [Pennington-L] Robbins Pennington > Virginia, > Which Levi Pennington? Do you know a location? When did she marry Henry > Lamb and where in NC? > > Carmen > Assistant Research Director - JFMF > www.penningtonresearch.org > PRA Family Group 7 Leader > http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm > > > -----Original Message----- > From: bvirginia76 [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 10:02 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] Robbins Pennington > > Hi, Barbara > > Where did Letitia Robbins Pennington live? I have some information on the > Robbins/Pennington's of SC somewhere in my archives. It would take me some > time to look it up. It is probably saved to a floppy. If you think it > would be helpful, please let me know. My Pennington connection is a brick > wall - Ruth Pennington, who married Henry Lamb in NC. They moved to Floyd > Co., IN in 1815. Ruth's parentage has never been proven by the family > researchers with whom I am in touch. She was said to be the daughter of > Levi Pennington, but I cannot establish that connection. A theory is that > she was perhaps an orphan who was taken in by someone else. > > Virginia Morris Brown > [email protected] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 11:15 PM > Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > For more information about the PRA DNA Study, visit our Web Site at > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > PRA publications are available at the PRA Web Site at > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > >

Bob, May I suggest that you check out Ruth Stonesifer's page at http://rstonesifer.com/genealogy/index.htm and you might want to email her. There is a link on her page. She has done a lot of work with the MD Penningtons and may be able to offer some guidance. Carmen Assistant Research Director - JFMF www.penningtonresearch.org PRA Family Group 7 Leader http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm -----Original Message----- From: Bob Lykins [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 3:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Cornelious Pennington Hello all,     Still looking for Cornelious Pennington b.1816 MD, married Sarah Ann Nine b.1826  PA d.8/21/1891 Randolph Co. Indiana - Married 12/20/1842 Clark Co Ohio.Had four daughters Elnore-Mary A- Susan-Harriet M-One son Major N Pennington. They were in the 1880 census and lived in Lynn,Randolph Co. Indiana.     Thank you Bob -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm ==== PRA Mailing List ==== ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== To learn about the PRA Family Groups, visit the PRA Web Site at http://www.penningtonresearch.org

Barbara, Thanks for explaining how you and others have worked so hard to make the Pennington group and site such a good one. I'm new to this site, so it's been interesting to see what information you have. I do belong to other family sites too and they all are a little bit different in different ways. It's the family that counts, so I consider all of the Pennington groups as my family and the only confusion I've had so far is that they are all separated into groups. I assume we are all from a common ancestor, but maybe I'm wrong about that. Thanks so much to you and everyone else who makes the site what it is. Ruth

Hello all,     Still looking for Cornelious Pennington b.1816 MD, married Sarah Ann Nine b.1826  PA d.8/21/1891 Randolph Co. Indiana - Married 12/20/1842 Clark Co Ohio.Had four daughters Elnore-Mary A- Susan-Harriet M-One son Major N Pennington. They were in the 1880 census and lived in Lynn,Randolph Co. Indiana.     Thank you Bob -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm

Yes, I have received it.....thanks. Nell

Hi Carol, I have sent your message to the PRA Mailing list. Some of our Group Leaders don't monitor both mailing lists. Sue should be able to help you. I am sure that all of our leaders are preparing for the new website. But I feel sure someone will get back to you. Thanks for posting. Rene'e Davis, CFO ARD, Family Groups PRA - Group 9 Pennington Research Association, Inc. www.penningtonresearch.org ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 9:26 PM Subject: [Pennington-L] Group 8 > What is happening in Group 8 ?????? > Thanks, > Carroll [email protected] > > > ==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > To search over 7000 archived messages from this list see > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > Threaded archives can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/pennington > >

Virginia, Which Levi Pennington? Do you know a location? When did she marry Henry Lamb and where in NC? Carmen Assistant Research Director - JFMF www.penningtonresearch.org PRA Family Group 7 Leader http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm -----Original Message----- From: bvirginia76 [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 10:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] Robbins Pennington Hi, Barbara Where did Letitia Robbins Pennington live? I have some information on the Robbins/Pennington's of SC somewhere in my archives. It would take me some time to look it up. It is probably saved to a floppy. If you think it would be helpful, please let me know. My Pennington connection is a brick wall - Ruth Pennington, who married Henry Lamb in NC. They moved to Floyd Co., IN in 1815. Ruth's parentage has never been proven by the family researchers with whom I am in touch. She was said to be the daughter of Levi Pennington, but I cannot establish that connection. A theory is that she was perhaps an orphan who was taken in by someone else. Virginia Morris Brown [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 11:15 PM Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. ==== PRA Mailing List ==== ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== For more information about the PRA DNA Study, visit our Web Site at http://www.penningtonresearch.org

Cher, I had some comments - so I thought I would address your list here: 1. I will send my research to Barrie Petty so that it can be circulated to the non-computer users. I do realize that there are tons of those folks. And perhaps worse yet, my experience is that they are sometimes older folks with TONS of information that is useful to all of us and no way for us to get to them. Please do share your information! That is the entire point of being a member of Genealogy Association of any type! 2. Reunions: I'd love to come, but I think this is nearly impossible for me. I can barely make it to my own closer family reunions and they, tiny and infrequent as they are, are my first choice in such things. Broader Pennington reunions are great, but not much help to me. I, too, find it difficult to attend the reunions. I work full time and don't make a great deal of money. This isn't a very important aspect of my membership, but it is for many others who have the time and money to attend - more power to them! 3. Groups: I have to agree with Barb that most research takes place inside this various groups and not much outside them. Or at least it has been to this point. When everything comes online in February, that will change, theorectically. I said I offered to start a group. I know Gene told me something about this, but it does not appear to be an easy task. Let me ask a few questions - are you utilizing your free time to conduct research for others for free? Do you spend a great deal of time persuing information that has no bearing on your particular Pennington? The answer to both those question is probably no. Usually when you trade information with someone you are getting something back. Some of the group leaders are better than others at conduction research and communicating that research. The reasons may be lack of skill or knowledge or lack of time or interest. I joined the PRA in 1998 or so - I don't remember th exact date. John French was still alive and helped me discover who my Elizabeth Pennington was (There are more Elizabeth Pennington's in the database than you can imagine) and he is responsible for the file - he contributed the research and did the work of inputting. My input hasn't been all that much. 4. DNA studies: Suffice to say that I wish I could be tested as well! 5. Web Page: * Web Queries: rather than having them organized by month and year and therefore requiring somebody to wade through them, why not let them just exist as a long chain as many other such queries pages do. It is FAR easier to scan a long chain of things than opening and reviewing and closing each monthly set. I can scan quickly. I've never gone through all the PRA ones because I just don't have that many hours. A quick tip - use the Ctrl - F or Find function - That will make your life a whole lot easier. Also - many of the queries have been archived on the newslist. Search the Newslist archives! * Family Groups: if PRA is serious about getting lots of groups going and you should be because there are a ton of us who do not fit into the existing groups, then you need to do this in a manner that encourages formation. How about an online form requesting a new group that can be submitted and some kind of specified and easily understood way to accomplish this task. Telling people to contact Gene and then providing all that info. about the way groups must be named and all is intimidating at best, discouraging at worst. Instead of 34 groups, I'd like to see more than 100....whatever number it takes to get as much information about these lines available as possible. That is how we are going to connect the dots to each other. I disagree - we don't have enough active Family Group Leaders as it is. I think that we need to rethink some of our family groups and instead of create more - merge a few. The DNA studies are showing that many of us are closer than we think. The onlly way we are going to connect the dots is if we "put our money where our mouth is!" I don't expect the PRA or the Group Leader to instantly provide me with my line. I expect guidance and help - but when it comes down to it - I must do my research not expect someone else to have the magic pill. Some of us may never make that magical connection and we will all have brick walls. All we can do is add the info to the JFMF as best we can. If you feel that we need a new group - talk to Renee' and Gene and give them your reasons. That is what they are asking for. You can't expect a group to be started simply because you want it - you need to show a need for it. By going through the process of explaining the reasons for a new group you can better understand it yourself. * Research: I don't expect anyone from any group to do my research. I expect to do it myself. I also expect to gather up whatever I can about Pennington's (like the Greenmount line that is not mine) and share it. That being said. HOW? Give me some forms to fill out online. Give me some easily explained directions for submitting info. If you want to share your information online - send it to Renee', Gene or me. Put it on the web via newslists. I think that many people forget what a tremendous resource we have in the newslists. Just think that there are 5 or 6 years of newslist information that you can search through. Set up your information in a format that it can be submitted to the Pedigrees. Discuss your research - maybe some fresh eyes and brains can see something that you don't. * General Comment: I just find the PRA web page very difficult to get around. In some ways it provides way too much information about some things and then gives nearly no exact directions on others. If there isn't a web page committee, there needs to be one. A web page is first of all - very difficult to set up and also takes a great deal of time with upkeep. It takes a while to develop a format that you like. The format of the current page could be improved. I have to admit that I have never had a problem navigating around the web page and the chief page that I spend my time is the Family Group page. A web page committee is not really a good way to go - because in the end you don't want to many people muddying up the pot. I'm sure that there are ways that I can improve my page - I do my best to provide as much info as possible in as accurate a way as possible. There are certainly things that could be done to clean it up - but to be honest I haven't had the time. That is a project for the winter and according to the snow coming down outside - I need to work on it soon! I have to say that Gene does an incredible amount of work and deserves a great deal of credit for the inroads that have been made in the PRA. He has to be a diplomat and a visionary and those two things don't always go together. Gene is the one on the front lines and I am thankful that he is there. There are many people who work very hard and don't get the credit that they deserve. Renee' is doing a great job as the ARD for the family groups - Barrie works hard on the Pedigrees and all of the others like Shirley Erickson or Jim Pennington who are family group leaders put in a lot of hours of work with little thanks. I don't have the time that I would like to devote to research. I catch a few hours a nite if I am lucky. I work 8 hours a day in front of a computer and don't always have the time or energy to do it after work. Cher - there are many who aren't directly connected to a group. All you can look for as a researcher are patterns. I wish that I could tell you who you descend from - if you were an Ashe Co., NC/Lee Co., VA/ or Harlan Co., KY Pennnington I might be able to help you. As the Group Leader for Group 7 - Desc. of Micajah Pennington, I have concentrated on those areas. During the last year - I am starting to include other groups in my research like Groups 16, 30, 31, & 32 - They seem to have a rather close connection to Group 7. The DNA research being conducted is giving us some great info because of Nick Pennington's insight and analysis. There has been more coming out of the PRA during the last few years than any time that I can remember. We aren't perfect, but we do have a very good foundation! I took no offense to your comments but rather urge you to contribute and become an active member. Understand what is going on and then you can help make the PRA better than it already is! Carmen Assistant Research Director - JFMF www.penningtonresearch.org PRA Family Group 7 Leader http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm -----Original Message----- From: Spaulding [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 2:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. Hi. Shirley. Okey Dokey....let's keep going and maybe this is going to get through my thick skull. I think I joined after the mailing of the Pennington Pedigree so that is probably why I had no idea what was going on. Taking my issues one by one: 4. DNA studies: Well what can I say ladies. For any of us who have female connections to this line and no male Penningtons, this is virtually useless to us. We just don't have the right stuff to use it. And whilst I wish the guys well, I am jealous. I wish I could prove my heritage so easily with some DNA work. By the way, I still harbor some misgivings about all DNA stuff that is goign on in genealogy. There are lots of questions yet to be answered about how to use this info. Tricky questions regarding ethics and such. 5. Web Page: Now I'm really going to put my foot in it. I think the PRA webpage needs help. I realize that this is all volunteers and since I am an officer in a couple volunteer organizations (not genealogical), I recognize that resources are always thin. That being said, it simply is not easy to understand. Some issues: * Web Queries: rather than having them organized by month and year and therefore requiring somebody to wade through them, why not let them just exist as a long chain as many other such queries pages do. It is FAR easier to scan a long chain of things than opening and reviewing and closing each monthly set. I can scan quickly. I've never gone through all the PRA ones because I just don't have that many hours. * Family Groups: if PRA is serious about getting lots of groups going and you should be because there are a ton of us who do not fit into the existing groups, then you need to do this in a manner that encourages formation. How about an online form requesting a new group that can be submitted and some kind of specified and easily understood way to accomplish this task. Telling people to contact Gene and then providing all that info. about the way groups must be named and all is intimidating at best, discouraging at worst. Instead of 34 groups, I'd like to see more than 100....whatever number it takes to get as much information about these lines available as possible. That is how we are going to connect the dots to each other. * Research: I don't expect anyone from any group to do my research. I expect to do it myself. I also expect to gather up whatever I can about Pennington's (like the Greenmount line that is not mine) and share it. That being said. HOW? Give me some forms to fill out online. Give me some easily explained directions for submitting info. * General Comment: I just find the PRA web page very difficult to get around. In some ways it provides way too much information about some things and then gives nearly no exact directions on others. If there isn't a web page committee, there needs to be one. OK, so now that I have annoyed most of the PRA world. You may ask, who the heck do I think I am. Why a Penington, of course. Regards, Cher At 10:04 PM 01/05/2004 -0600, you wrote: >Dear Cher, > >I think your question is very valid. Others may be equally confused. I will >certainly be happy to visit with you on all these questions as I'm sure >others will. You may email me personally at <[email protected]> or via >this PRA-L list. Other officers of the group may also want to respond to >the particular questions that concern their area of expertise. Please >forgive me if I don't answer these questions in an orderly manner but I will >certainly try. > >First, the "Journal" is the "Pennington Pedigrees" which is published twice >yearly. It includes articles by members and researchers to hopefully >further all of our research. As a member of the Pennington Research >Association, you should be receiving the Journals. You may also order back >copies of this journal for a fee. The list is available at the association >website of www.penningtonresearch.org .There is also an index available of >some of the back issues that might assist you in knowing which back issues >to order to assist in your research. Our editor is a wonderfully talented >and organized person who puts major effort into a quality publication. She >relies heavily on the membership to submit material for these publications. >The volunteer editor is Barrie Petty <[email protected]>. You can even send >the material via email to her or by snail mail. > >All our membership hopefully understands that the entire organization is >made up of volunteers interested in researching the Pennington surname and >maintaining friendships with Penningtons. There is a yearly reunion where >many of the membership (and some non-members) get together. This year's >reunion will be at Earlham College in Indiana where the newly established >Pennington archives are being housed and being overseen by member Dr. Jasper >Green Pennington (again a volunteer). These reunions are held in various >places and hosted by various members. > >You are definitely my kind of researcher. Whenever, I am researching >somewhere and see a Pennington name, I collect or photograph the information >and share it (usually via the journal). It has been amazing to me, how me >of my group 11 members do not use computers at all and contact me via the >normal mail service. In today's society, we simply take it for granted that >everyone has a computer. There is still no substitute for visiting >courthouses, libraries, cemeteries etc. to obtain the information needed to >further the research. > >Now then, you say you have offered to establish a group of your Pennington >family. I think that is a wonderful idea. There are several Ross that I've >seen in the various families. None seem to be quite as early as your's. >The earliest one I find is a Ross Benton Pennington born 1857 in >Pennsylvania. The progenitor of this group is Edmund of abt. 1753 (group >14). Of course, this may not be your group at all. Other members may have >other ideas on what direction you might go. The Josiah you mentioned is >another one that isn't really spoken to so it may mean researching both >families to figure out which way to go. > >I'm so pleased that you've brought up all these questions. They all need to >be addressed and without the questions, the officers cannot know where the >memberships needs lie. It sounds like you have done some excellent work >on your family. Please don't give up and I would like for others to >respond as well with suggestions. > >Regards, >Shirley Erickson (group 11, Abel died 1819 Alabama and yes, I'm still >looking for his parents) > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 9:50 AM >Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > Shirley, What is "the journal" that is available to people without > > computer ability? I don't know what you are talking about. I'd be happy > > to share anything I have with everyone, but I mostly find this nearly > > impossible to accomplish. > > > > What I have is this: > > * I have my particular line documented back to about Ross T. >Penington, > > Sr. born 1820 Baltimore, MD. I have produced the GedCom for this and > > submitted to PRA. > > * I have documented two family grave plots in Greenmount Cemetery, > > Baltimore, MD. One holds my direct family members Penington in the >"Mumma" > > family plot. This documentation included plotting it, photographing it >and > > getting the burial cards from Greenmount. > > * I have done the same in Greenmount for another plot that is > > Pennington, but is not so far as I am aware directly related to my > > line. This is the Josiah Pennington family back to 1803. I have plotted > > it, photographed it. I did not bother to get the burial cards as they do > > not seem to be mine and nobody expressed interest in the info. > > * I joined PRA as a member. > > * I have offered to establish a new group the contains my Baltimore > > Penington family. > > I admit that I must be dense because I don't seem to grasp how best to >work > > with PRA. Just tell me what you want me to do and I will happily provide > > whatever I can and share whatever I have. If you want my info. printed in > > "the journal" then just explain how. That goes for all manner of other > > things. I sincerely hope I am not the only dense person out here. > > Cher > > > > > > > > > > At 09:43 AM 01/05/2004 -0600, you wrote: > > >That would be a wonderful item for the website but please consider also > > >having it printed in the journal. That way those that have no computer > > >ability can also enjoy. > > > > > >Shirley Erickson > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> > > >To: <[email protected]> > > >Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 1:18 PM > > >Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > > > > > > > Hi. I still have the plot plan and so forth for the Pennington >Greenmount > > > > Cemetery Plot that I did last year. Will you have the ability on the >new > > > > web site to gather documents and photos and make them available to > > > > everyone? If so, I can post the entire map and the individual grave > > >cards. > > > > Cher > > > > > > > > At 10:18 AM 01/03/2004 -0700, you wrote: > > > > >Hi Cheryl, > > > > > I certainly understand your frustration, I can't tell you how >many > > > > >places I posted my relative to in hopes of finding someone. I was >just > > > > >stubborn and probably somewhat of a pest until I found a will >probated in > > >MD > > > > >for my grandfather Thomas. Then I reposted that information to the >PRA > > >list > > > > >and got lucky in finding my cousins. While finding a Family Group in >the > > > > >PRA to belong is helpful and the cousins that share a common ancestor > > >makes > > > > >everyone's tree grow like > > > > >it is on hormones or something. It is also important for anyone >tracking > > > > >ancestors to continue working on the person they are stuck on. If you > > >find > > > > >them on some census, some year in someplace, follow-up in the same >area > > >for > > > > >any probate records. While you are there, look for the marriage and >go > > >back > > > > >to the census for the other surname. Many times I found missing >family > > > > >members and grandparents because they were living with the married > > >inlaws. > > > > > Keep posting to the lists !!! POST a family query; POST what >record > > >you > > > > >have for the person; POST a marriage ; POST EVERYTHING and keep >searching > > > > >and posting everything and I promise you, you will eventually find >your > > > > >cousins. > > > > > I agree with you, with the PRA opening the various family files >we > > >will > > > > >be reach more people, share more information and at a much shorter >time > > > > >span. And with the DNA testing, if some of you haven't found your > > >cousins, > > > > >the DNA could at least point a finger to a group of cousins. > > > > > Thanks for posting Cheryl and Bob. By the way, Cheryl I haven't > > >forgot > > > > >about your Ross Pennington. Oh, do you remember the cemetery plot of > > > > >Pennington at Green Mount you sent me? It might help others to post >the > > > > >information to the mailing lists as well. We aren't able to send > > >attachments > > > > >to the mailing lists but at least you could post the information for >the > > > > >others. That is what we are all about - sharing! > > > > > Hang in there - you guys ! > > > > > > > > > >Rene'e Davis, CFO > > > > >ARD, Family Groups > > > > >PRA - Group 9 > > > > >Pennington Research Association, Inc. > > > > >www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > >From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> > > > > >To: <[email protected]> > > > > >Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 7:36 AM > > > > >Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I certainly have shared Bob's angst and frustration with the PRA > > > > > > groups. My line, which is Baltimore based is well documented but >does > > >not > > > > > > go back far enough yet to connect to any of the PRA groups. It is >all > > > > >well > > > > > > and good Barb to suggest that membership in PRA and in a group >isn't > > > > > > mandatory, but the reality is that, up until now, the focus of PRA >has > > > > > > understandably been on the groups where the vast majority of >active > > > > > > research is taking place. Those of us who have no group have been > > >left > > > > >out > > > > > > in the cold and told to keep researching so that we can find a > > >connection > > > > > > to a PRA group. That's not much help, or very encouraging, >frankly. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am happy to have joined PRA, but I frankly have found it > > >anticlimatic > > > > >for > > > > > > the present. I am waiting with great expectation to the coming >change > > >in > > > > > > PRA which I believe will alter it to the better. The opening up >of > > >ALL > > > > >the > > > > > > records of all these lines to everyone through the new web access > > >planned, > > > > > > I believe, for February is a major shift in PRA. It is welcome >and it > > >was > > > > > > needed. When that happens, I suspect membership in PRA will >become > > > > > > something far more useful to all of us and being able to connect >to a > > > > > > particular "group" will be easier to accomplish. > > > > > > > > > > > > So hang in there Bob, things are about to change. Membership >will be > > > > > > required to access this new web based information, I believe, and >that > > > > > > makes sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheryl > > > > > > > > > > > > At 12:56 AM 01/03/2004 -0500, you wrote: > > > > > > >Dear Bob, > > > > > > >You are far from the first person to become confused by the PRA > > >groups. > > > > > > >They were started as a way to distinguish between the different >lines > > >and > > > > > > >when two lines were found to connect via a mutual ancestor, > > > > > > >then the two lines were merged as one. I am a former member of >PRA > > >and > > > > > > >during my years with PRA, I believed myself linked to Groups 12, >7, > > >and > > > > > > >later to Group 32. But these are merely tools, not mandatory in >any > > >way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >As to the groups being mostly back to an ancestor who was found >here > > >on > > > > > > >American soil, we are all trying to get back across that big >ocean, > > >but > > > > > > >seldom with any success. So it looks like you may already be a >step > > > > > > >ahead in that your ancestors came over more recently than many of >our > > > > > > >ancestors. If you are a member of PRA, you may be able to start >a > > >group, > > > > > > >if one does not appear to exist for your line. However, >membership > > >in > > > > > > >either a Group or in PRA itself is not required to access a great > > >deal of > > > > > > >data through these lists. Most of us love to share with others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >As to the lists, Pennington-L is an independent group owned and >run > > >by > > > > > > >Steve Privett, and PRA-L is a list run by PRA, of course. I'd > > >suggest > > > > > > >remaining on the list and sending out an occasional query as you >just > > > > > > >did. I know there are a few folks who are over in Great Britain, >who > > >are > > > > > > >researching as we are, for our Pennington ancestors. Possibly >some > > >of > > > > > > >these list members may be helful to you. Otherwise, since there >is > > > > > > >probably a good paper trail, I'd go ahead and send off for as >much as > > >I > > > > > > >could afford from British offices and agencies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Have you done much research with the U.S. sources? If you have >been > > > > > > >researching for awhile, you probably have looked at many sources >of > > >data > > > > > > >on your family, but there may be more you might have missed. Let >us > > >know > > > > > > >what you have tried so far. Have you checked the 1930 Census? > > >Marriage > > > > > > >records? Church records? Let us know. Many of us would like to > > >help if > > > > > > >we can. Please be careful with the data found on the internet. > > > > > > >I have seen more that was proven false than was proven accurate. >Try > > >to > > > > > > >find some primary sources, to supplement compilations and family > > >history > > > > > > >books, etc. These take time and effort but are worth it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Good luck, > > > > > > >Barb T > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > > > > > > >Please do not post virus warnings on this list. > > > > > > >Practice safe e-mail habits and only open attachments you're > > >expecting > > > > > > >For addition virus info see http://www.symantec.com/us.index.html >or > > > > > > >http://www.mcafee.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > > > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > > > > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > > > > > > >believed to be clean. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > > > > > > The threaded archives can be found at > > > > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/pennington > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > > > >==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > > > >To learn about the PRA Family Groups, visit the PRA Web Site at > > > > >http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > > > > >believed to be clean. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > > > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > > > For help with your research, go to > > > > http://www.penningtonresearch.org and > > > > click on Research Tips. > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > >==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > >PRA publications are available at the PRA Web Site at > > >http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > > > > > >-- > > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > > >believed to be clean. > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION List ==== > > For more information about the PRA visit our Web Site at > > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > >==== PRA Mailing List ==== >==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== >For more information about the PRA DNA Study, visit our Web Site at >http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean. ==== PRA Mailing List ==== ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION List ==== For more information about the PRA visit our Web Site at http://www.penningtonresearch.org

Hi Gang, Check out www.tythehandyguy.com. He's from GA. I wonder which family he belongs to. We certainly need his DNA, Nick. Just kidding !! Rene'e Davis, CFO ARD, Family Groups PRA - Group 9 Pennington Research Association, Inc. www.penningtonresearch.org

Cher, Our last Pedigree came out last month (I think that was when....someone can correct me, I'm sure). I read it cover to cover as soon as it arrived. If you only been a member for a short time then I hope you will give at least a little while longer to find a connection. I'll try to take your issues one by one and I'm going to clip the older messages out to save space (hopefully, that is ok). Asking questions until one understands is certainly ok. I'm sure we can always do things better. 1. I'm so glad you are sending your information to Barrie for publication. I do this often and enjoy sharing immensely. I'll look forward to reading what you have done. You are correct in mentioning that there is still tons of information out there that has been gleened by previous researchers. Much of that is included in previous Pedigree issues. Bee Holmes and many others collected and shared information with each other prior to the organization of the Association. 2. We will miss you. Perhaps someday. 3. Perhaps it should be easier to start a new group than it presently is. Someone else should probably answer this question. I will say that I always announce my group as "Abel died 1819 Al" as opposed to "Group 11". You could go ahead and put an appropriate tag of your choosing on your group and begin that way. I tend to oversimplify everything and do things pretty much the way I want. Another consideration anyway. 4. DNA studies are still very new. Nick Penington has done a fabulous job on this study. Instead of being jealous, I got a Pennington male from my line to do the study so we can be involved. So far, it has not helped my group much but someday.... hopefully. In some groups there are few or no male Penningtons to study. Now that is a problem. I believe Nick just referred to that as "daughtered out". 5. On the webpage, I'll let Gene speak to that. While I do have a webpage of my own, I'm certainly not a whiz at it and don't pretend to know the complexities. By the way Gene Pennington is a devoted volunteer for PRA and tries very hard to keep the webpage up to date. He welcomes suggestions and may or may not be able to improve on some aspects. You certainly haven't annoyed me and probably noone else. Just please remember that most of us are volunteers and have other jobs that pay the rent so everything is done in our own time. Regards, Shirley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > Hi. Shirley. Okey Dokey....let's keep going and maybe this is going to get > through my thick skull. I think I joined after the mailing of the > Pennington Pedigree so that is probably why I had no idea what was going > on. Taking my issues one by one: > > 1. I will send my research to Barrie Petty so that it can be circulated to > the non-computer users. I do realize that there are tons of those > folks. And perhaps worse yet, my experience is that they are sometimes > older folks with TONS of information that is useful to all of us and no way > for us to get to them. > > 2. Reunions: I'd love to come, but I think this is nearly impossible for > me. I can barely make it to my own closer family reunions and they, tiny > and infrequent as they are, are my first choice in such things. Broader > Pennington reunions are great, but not much help to me. > > 3. Groups: I have to agree with Barb that most research takes place > inside this various groups and not much outside them. Or at least it has > been to this point. When everything comes online in February, that will > change, theorectically. I said I offered to start a group. I know Gene > told me something about this, but it does not appear to be an easy task. > > 4. DNA studies: Well what can I say ladies. For any of us who have > female connections to this line and no male Penningtons, this is virtually > useless to us. We just don't have the right stuff to use it. And whilst I > wish the guys well, I am jealous. I wish I could prove my heritage so > easily with some DNA work. By the way, I still harbor some misgivings > about all DNA stuff that is goign on in genealogy. There are lots of > questions yet to be answered about how to use this info. Tricky questions > regarding ethics and such. > > 5. Web Page: Now I'm really going to put my foot in it. I think the PRA > webpage needs help. I realize that this is all volunteers and since I am > an officer in a couple volunteer organizations (not genealogical), I > recognize that resources are always thin. That being said, it simply is > not easy to understand. Some issues: > * Web Queries: rather than having them organized by month and year and > therefore requiring somebody to wade through them, why not let them just > exist as a long chain as many other such queries pages do. It is FAR > easier to scan a long chain of things than opening and reviewing and > closing each monthly set. I can scan quickly. I've never gone through all > the PRA ones because I just don't have that many hours. > * Family Groups: if PRA is serious about getting lots of groups going > and you should be because there are a ton of us who do not fit into the > existing groups, then you need to do this in a manner that encourages > formation. How about an online form requesting a new group that can be > submitted and some kind of specified and easily understood way to > accomplish this task. Telling people to contact Gene and then providing > all that info. about the way groups must be named and all is intimidating > at best, discouraging at worst. Instead of 34 groups, I'd like to see > more than 100....whatever number it takes to get as much information about > these lines available as possible. That is how we are going to connect the > dots to each other. > * Research: I don't expect anyone from any group to do my research. I > expect to do it myself. I also expect to gather up whatever I can about > Pennington's (like the Greenmount line that is not mine) and share > it. That being said. HOW? Give me some forms to fill out online. Give > me some easily explained directions for submitting info. > * General Comment: I just find the PRA web page very difficult to get > around. In some ways it provides way too much information about some > things and then gives nearly no exact directions on others. If there isn't > a web page committee, there needs to be one. > OK, so now that I have annoyed most of the PRA world. You may ask, who the > heck do I think I am. Why a Penington, of course. > Regards, Cher

Hi Nell, you should have her email by now. Good hunting !! Rene'e Davis, CFO ARD, Family Groups PRA - Group 9 Pennington Research Association, Inc. www.penningtonresearch.org ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 4:12 PM Subject: Re: Penningtons in Somerset Co. NJ - decendents of Ephraim Penningto n New Ha... > I must have missed Mandy's original comments and I would like to be able to > read her submission, since I descend from the Ephraim of North Carolina > lineage. > Can someone send the original message? > Nell in Florida > > In a message dated 1/6/2004 5:48:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > Mandy, > > This is mind boggling stuff and if true would merge group 20 with > > many other groups that DNA is showing appear to share an Ephraim ancestor > > (d. 1750 Rowan Co, NC). These families would by implication be descendants > > of Ephraim of CT but the proof for this jump I thought was missing. > > But how do you know that your Nathaniel was not the one that > > previous work suggests was born in England? I suppose there are no group > > 20 men who still have the Pennington surname or else DNA could help here? > > Do we know if there are any Pen(n)ingtons still living in NJ who descend > > from one of these early Morris Co, NJ Pen(n)ingtons. I thought from what > > is on the web at Gencircles (and some files here list descendants of these > > Morris county Penningtons) that these families daughtered out! Nick. > > > > > > Nell > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > For more information about the PRA DNA Study, visit our Web Site at > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > >

Thanks Mandy, I've never tried to be a "name dropper" but I might start for genealogy purposes ;>) . Thanks for the website. I know I have some Quakers in Group 9 but can prove it yet. Thanks for posting ! Rene'e Davis, CFO ARD, Family Groups PRA - Group 9 Pennington Research Association, Inc. www.penningtonresearch.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colgan, Mandy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:28 AM Subject: Quaker Penningtons - research tip > The Friends Historical Library at Swarthmore College in PA is one of the > best places to go for research on Quaker families. I am an alum of > Swarthmore and have done research in this collection. The staff is very > helpful contact them for research requests (and mention that an alum sent > you). http://www.swarthmore.edu/Library/friends/ > > Mandy Cummings Colgan - Swarthmore Class of 1990 > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > To sign up to use the archive features, go to --> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ and follow the instructions. > Pennington Research Association Web Site > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > >

Hi Barbara, I found the PRA over 3 years ago and very glad I did. At that time we were having growing and organization issues. * We were trying to fix an outdated (over 30 years old) (JFMF) Family Master file. A system that was not compatible with other software; Extremely difficult to enter family gedcoms and was being performed by ONE - ONE PERSON ! An unbelievebale task for one person - THANK YOU, CARMEN FOR THE PAST YEARS OF TORTURE TYPING. People who submitted material on their family had a long wait to see that material published and when they sent the material, there were no sources because either they did not know how to include them when the file was sent or didn't want to share their sources. Hence, the Master File is getting a overhaul (not really overhauled - let's just say a 'make-over'. In the last year, the decision was made "not to try to fix a stripped bolt." We needed another way to perform the updates to our family files and the MyFamily website was born. (DONE) :>) * We needed to find a way to share new information in timely manner with our members. With information moving at the speed of light this was not easy because some were new to computers, some were new to genealogy. Every one of our Group Leaders, Board and Officers have got involved in this endeavor. We have worked long and hard to work with these individuals on a personal level to get them headed in the right direction both with computer skills and genealogy. (DONE) :>) Gene worked long and hard on this project and has done a remarkable job in it's creation for our members. The new website will have the capacity for chatting on line - meetings- education class on-line if requested, pictures of family, especially those new additions (babies) and it is secure for members. The cutiest thing is - when the Group Leaders make changes/additions on the group file - our members are notified and can download the progress. That means we don't have to check the website everyday. Isn't that cute ??!!! The decision was made to allow our each of our Group Leaders to keep their PRA family files updated instead of one person. Once we open the new website - family information will be entered quicker (as soon as we catch up with our old information). I, myself have probably 100 pages of things to add to my PRA Family 9 file and that does not count what I have recently found in the past 6 months. So, our Group Leaders will be busy for a while getting caught up. (DONE) :>) * Our new editor, Barrie Petty has brought our Pennington Pedigree publication into the new age. It's bigger, better and much easier to get our information published in a shorter amount of time. (DONE) :>) * We have taken better measures to protect privacy rights and copyrights. DONE ;>) * In the recent past, our Group Leaders took a great deal of time (weeks, sometimes months) preparing reports, gedcoms, etc on our family files for submission to the Baord for approval and to be included in our PRA Master File. Now, the only time we have to ask for permission is for the merging of famly groups and to start a 'new' family group. This step allowed our Group Leaders more time to devote to their members, for the mailing list and has cut our work load in half. (DONE) :>) * New Gift Shop, Tax-exempt status! Board Meeting on-line so we don't have to wait a year to get something done. The New Pennington Archives at Earlham College established so all of member's hard work will not be lost and in one place. Oh my, we really have accomplished alot the past two years. I could probably go on but I don't want you to be too tired to read your "other mail". Thanks for listening and posting. Everyone - have a good week. Rene'e Davis, CFO ARD, Family Groups PRA - Group 9 Pennington Research Association, Inc. www.penningtonresearch.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 9:15 PM Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > What do you have to be to be a member of the PRA??? I recieved the > magazine, but I was paying for it. I like others did not every find anyone > else researching my line (Greenberry and Letitia Robbins Pennington) > > Thanks guys and gals for all of your help tho. > > Barbara in OK > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shirley Erickson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 10:04 PM > Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > Dear Cher, > > > > I think your question is very valid. Others may be equally confused. I > will > > certainly be happy to visit with you on all these questions as I'm sure > > others will. You may email me personally at <[email protected]> or via > > this PRA-L list. Other officers of the group may also want to respond to > > the particular questions that concern their area of expertise. Please > > forgive me if I don't answer these questions in an orderly manner but I > will > > certainly try. > > > > First, the "Journal" is the "Pennington Pedigrees" which is published > twice > > yearly. It includes articles by members and researchers to hopefully > > further all of our research. As a member of the Pennington Research > > Association, you should be receiving the Journals. You may also order > back > > copies of this journal for a fee. The list is available at the > association > > website of www.penningtonresearch.org .There is also an index available of > > some of the back issues that might assist you in knowing which back issues > > to order to assist in your research. Our editor is a wonderfully talented > > and organized person who puts major effort into a quality publication. > She > > relies heavily on the membership to submit material for these > publications. > > The volunteer editor is Barrie Petty <[email protected]>. You can even > send > > the material via email to her or by snail mail. > > > > All our membership hopefully understands that the entire organization is > > made up of volunteers interested in researching the Pennington surname and > > maintaining friendships with Penningtons. There is a yearly reunion where > > many of the membership (and some non-members) get together. This year's > > reunion will be at Earlham College in Indiana where the newly established > > Pennington archives are being housed and being overseen by member Dr. > Jasper > > Green Pennington (again a volunteer). These reunions are held in various > > places and hosted by various members. > > > > You are definitely my kind of researcher. Whenever, I am researching > > somewhere and see a Pennington name, I collect or photograph the > information > > and share it (usually via the journal). It has been amazing to me, how me > > of my group 11 members do not use computers at all and contact me via the > > normal mail service. In today's society, we simply take it for granted > that > > everyone has a computer. There is still no substitute for visiting > > courthouses, libraries, cemeteries etc. to obtain the information needed > to > > further the research. > > > > Now then, you say you have offered to establish a group of your Pennington > > family. I think that is a wonderful idea. There are several Ross that > I've > > seen in the various families. None seem to be quite as early as your's. > > The earliest one I find is a Ross Benton Pennington born 1857 in > > Pennsylvania. The progenitor of this group is Edmund of abt. 1753 (group > > 14). Of course, this may not be your group at all. Other members may > have > > other ideas on what direction you might go. The Josiah you mentioned is > > another one that isn't really spoken to so it may mean researching both > > families to figure out which way to go. > > > > I'm so pleased that you've brought up all these questions. They all need > to > > be addressed and without the questions, the officers cannot know where the > > memberships needs lie. It sounds like you have done some excellent work > > on your family. Please don't give up and I would like for others to > > respond as well with suggestions. > > > > Regards, > > Shirley Erickson (group 11, Abel died 1819 Alabama and yes, I'm still > > looking for his parents) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 9:50 AM > > Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > > > > Shirley, What is "the journal" that is available to people without > > > computer ability? I don't know what you are talking about. I'd be > happy > > > to share anything I have with everyone, but I mostly find this nearly > > > impossible to accomplish. > > > > > > What I have is this: > > > * I have my particular line documented back to about Ross T. > > Penington, > > > Sr. born 1820 Baltimore, MD. I have produced the GedCom for this and > > > submitted to PRA. > > > * I have documented two family grave plots in Greenmount Cemetery, > > > Baltimore, MD. One holds my direct family members Penington in the > > "Mumma" > > > family plot. This documentation included plotting it, photographing it > > and > > > getting the burial cards from Greenmount. > > > * I have done the same in Greenmount for another plot that is > > > Pennington, but is not so far as I am aware directly related to my > > > line. This is the Josiah Pennington family back to 1803. I have > plotted > > > it, photographed it. I did not bother to get the burial cards as they > do > > > not seem to be mine and nobody expressed interest in the info. > > > * I joined PRA as a member. > > > * I have offered to establish a new group the contains my Baltimore > > > Penington family. > > > I admit that I must be dense because I don't seem to grasp how best to > > work > > > with PRA. Just tell me what you want me to do and I will happily > provide > > > whatever I can and share whatever I have. If you want my info. printed > in > > > "the journal" then just explain how. That goes for all manner of other > > > things. I sincerely hope I am not the only dense person out here. > > > Cher > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 09:43 AM 01/05/2004 -0600, you wrote: > > > >That would be a wonderful item for the website but please consider also > > > >having it printed in the journal. That way those that have no computer > > > >ability can also enjoy. > > > > > > > >Shirley Erickson > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> > > > >To: <[email protected]> > > > >Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 1:18 PM > > > >Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi. I still have the plot plan and so forth for the Pennington > > Greenmount > > > > > Cemetery Plot that I did last year. Will you have the ability on > the > > new > > > > > web site to gather documents and photos and make them available to > > > > > everyone? If so, I can post the entire map and the individual grave > > > >cards. > > > > > Cher > > > > > > > > > > At 10:18 AM 01/03/2004 -0700, you wrote: > > > > > >Hi Cheryl, > > > > > > I certainly understand your frustration, I can't tell you how > > many > > > > > >places I posted my relative to in hopes of finding someone. I was > > just > > > > > >stubborn and probably somewhat of a pest until I found a will > > probated in > > > >MD > > > > > >for my grandfather Thomas. Then I reposted that information to the > > PRA > > > >list > > > > > >and got lucky in finding my cousins. While finding a Family Group > in > > the > > > > > >PRA to belong is helpful and the cousins that share a common > ancestor > > > >makes > > > > > >everyone's tree grow like > > > > > >it is on hormones or something. It is also important for anyone > > tracking > > > > > >ancestors to continue working on the person they are stuck on. If > you > > > >find > > > > > >them on some census, some year in someplace, follow-up in the same > > area > > > >for > > > > > >any probate records. While you are there, look for the marriage and > > go > > > >back > > > > > >to the census for the other surname. Many times I found missing > > family > > > > > >members and grandparents because they were living with the married > > > >inlaws. > > > > > > Keep posting to the lists !!! POST a family query; POST what > > record > > > >you > > > > > >have for the person; POST a marriage ; POST EVERYTHING and keep > > searching > > > > > >and posting everything and I promise you, you will eventually find > > your > > > > > >cousins. > > > > > > I agree with you, with the PRA opening the various family > files > > we > > > >will > > > > > >be reach more people, share more information and at a much shorter > > time > > > > > >span. And with the DNA testing, if some of you haven't found your > > > >cousins, > > > > > >the DNA could at least point a finger to a group of cousins. > > > > > > Thanks for posting Cheryl and Bob. By the way, Cheryl I > haven't > > > >forgot > > > > > >about your Ross Pennington. Oh, do you remember the cemetery plot > of > > > > > >Pennington at Green Mount you sent me? It might help others to post > > the > > > > > >information to the mailing lists as well. We aren't able to send > > > >attachments > > > > > >to the mailing lists but at least you could post the information > for > > the > > > > > >others. That is what we are all about - sharing! > > > > > > Hang in there - you guys ! > > > > > > > > > > > >Rene'e Davis, CFO > > > > > >ARD, Family Groups > > > > > >PRA - Group 9 > > > > > >Pennington Research Association, Inc. > > > > > >www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > > >From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> > > > > > >To: <[email protected]> > > > > > >Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 7:36 AM > > > > > >Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family > groups. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I certainly have shared Bob's angst and frustration with the PRA > > > > > > > groups. My line, which is Baltimore based is well documented > but > > does > > > >not > > > > > > > go back far enough yet to connect to any of the PRA groups. It > is > > all > > > > > >well > > > > > > > and good Barb to suggest that membership in PRA and in a group > > isn't > > > > > > > mandatory, but the reality is that, up until now, the focus of > PRA > > has > > > > > > > understandably been on the groups where the vast majority of > > active > > > > > > > research is taking place. Those of us who have no group have > been > > > >left > > > > > >out > > > > > > > in the cold and told to keep researching so that we can find a > > > >connection > > > > > > > to a PRA group. That's not much help, or very encouraging, > > frankly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am happy to have joined PRA, but I frankly have found it > > > >anticlimatic > > > > > >for > > > > > > > the present. I am waiting with great expectation to the coming > > change > > > >in > > > > > > > PRA which I believe will alter it to the better. The opening up > > of > > > >ALL > > > > > >the > > > > > > > records of all these lines to everyone through the new web > access > > > >planned, > > > > > > > I believe, for February is a major shift in PRA. It is welcome > > and it > > > >was > > > > > > > needed. When that happens, I suspect membership in PRA will > > become > > > > > > > something far more useful to all of us and being able to connect > > to a > > > > > > > particular "group" will be easier to accomplish. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So hang in there Bob, things are about to change. Membership > > will be > > > > > > > required to access this new web based information, I believe, > and > > that > > > > > > > makes sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheryl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 12:56 AM 01/03/2004 -0500, you wrote: > > > > > > > >Dear Bob, > > > > > > > >You are far from the first person to become confused by the PRA > > > >groups. > > > > > > > >They were started as a way to distinguish between the different > > lines > > > >and > > > > > > > >when two lines were found to connect via a mutual ancestor, > > > > > > > >then the two lines were merged as one. I am a former member of > > PRA > > > >and > > > > > > > >during my years with PRA, I believed myself linked to Groups > 12, > > 7, > > > >and > > > > > > > >later to Group 32. But these are merely tools, not mandatory > in > > any > > > >way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >As to the groups being mostly back to an ancestor who was found > > here > > > >on > > > > > > > >American soil, we are all trying to get back across that big > > ocean, > > > >but > > > > > > > >seldom with any success. So it looks like you may already be a > > step > > > > > > > >ahead in that your ancestors came over more recently than many > of > > our > > > > > > > >ancestors. If you are a member of PRA, you may be able to > start > > a > > > >group, > > > > > > > >if one does not appear to exist for your line. However, > > membership > > > >in > > > > > > > >either a Group or in PRA itself is not required to access a > great > > > >deal of > > > > > > > >data through these lists. Most of us love to share with > others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >As to the lists, Pennington-L is an independent group owned and > > run > > > >by > > > > > > > >Steve Privett, and PRA-L is a list run by PRA, of course. I'd > > > >suggest > > > > > > > >remaining on the list and sending out an occasional query as > you > > just > > > > > > > >did. I know there are a few folks who are over in Great > Britain, > > who > > > >are > > > > > > > >researching as we are, for our Pennington ancestors. Possibly > > some > > > >of > > > > > > > >these list members may be helful to you. Otherwise, since > there > > is > > > > > > > >probably a good paper trail, I'd go ahead and send off for as > > much as > > > >I > > > > > > > >could afford from British offices and agencies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Have you done much research with the U.S. sources? If you > have > > been > > > > > > > >researching for awhile, you probably have looked at many > sources > > of > > > >data > > > > > > > >on your family, but there may be more you might have missed. > Let > > us > > > >know > > > > > > > >what you have tried so far. Have you checked the 1930 Census? > > > >Marriage > > > > > > > >records? Church records? Let us know. Many of us would like > to > > > >help if > > > > > > > >we can. Please be careful with the data found on the internet. > > > > > > > >I have seen more that was proven false than was proven > accurate. > > Try > > > >to > > > > > > > >find some primary sources, to supplement compilations and > family > > > >history > > > > > > > >books, etc. These take time and effort but are worth it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Good luck, > > > > > > > >Barb T > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > >Please do not post virus warnings on this list. > > > > > > > >Practice safe e-mail habits and only open attachments you're > > > >expecting > > > > > > > >For addition virus info see > http://www.symantec.com/us.index.html > > or > > > > > > > >http://www.mcafee.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > > > > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > > > > > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > > > > > > > >believed to be clean. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > The threaded archives can be found at > > > > > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/pennington > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > > > > >==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > > > > >To learn about the PRA Family Groups, visit the PRA Web Site at > > > > > >http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > > > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > > > > > >believed to be clean. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > > > > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > > > > For help with your research, go to > > > > > http://www.penningtonresearch.org and > > > > > click on Research Tips. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > > >==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > > >PRA publications are available at the PRA Web Site at > > > >http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > > > >believed to be clean. > > > > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION List ==== > > > For more information about the PRA visit our Web Site at > > > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > For more information about the PRA DNA Study, visit our Web Site at > > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > Learn what's new at the PRA. 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I must have missed Mandy's original comments and I would like to be able to read her submission, since I descend from the Ephraim of North Carolina lineage. Can someone send the original message? Nell in Florida In a message dated 1/6/2004 5:48:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Mandy, > This is mind boggling stuff and if true would merge group 20 with > many other groups that DNA is showing appear to share an Ephraim ancestor > (d. 1750 Rowan Co, NC). These families would by implication be descendants > of Ephraim of CT but the proof for this jump I thought was missing. > But how do you know that your Nathaniel was not the one that > previous work suggests was born in England? I suppose there are no group > 20 men who still have the Pennington surname or else DNA could help here? > Do we know if there are any Pen(n)ingtons still living in NJ who descend > from one of these early Morris Co, NJ Pen(n)ingtons. I thought from what > is on the web at Gencircles (and some files here list descendants of these > Morris county Penningtons) that these families daughtered out! Nick. > Nell

Mandy, This is mind boggling stuff and if true would merge group 20 with many other groups that DNA is showing appear to share an Ephraim ancestor (d. 1750 Rowan Co, NC). These families would by implication be descendants of Ephraim of CT but the proof for this jump I thought was missing. But how do you know that your Nathaniel was not the one that previous work suggests was born in England? I suppose there are no group 20 men who still have the Pennington surname or else DNA could help here? Do we know if there are any Pen(n)ingtons still living in NJ who descend from one of these early Morris Co, NJ Pen(n)ingtons. I thought from what is on the web at Gencircles (and some files here list descendants of these Morris county Penningtons) that these families daughtered out! Nick.

Hi. Shirley. Okey Dokey....let's keep going and maybe this is going to get through my thick skull. I think I joined after the mailing of the Pennington Pedigree so that is probably why I had no idea what was going on. Taking my issues one by one: 1. I will send my research to Barrie Petty so that it can be circulated to the non-computer users. I do realize that there are tons of those folks. And perhaps worse yet, my experience is that they are sometimes older folks with TONS of information that is useful to all of us and no way for us to get to them. 2. Reunions: I'd love to come, but I think this is nearly impossible for me. I can barely make it to my own closer family reunions and they, tiny and infrequent as they are, are my first choice in such things. Broader Pennington reunions are great, but not much help to me. 3. Groups: I have to agree with Barb that most research takes place inside this various groups and not much outside them. Or at least it has been to this point. When everything comes online in February, that will change, theorectically. I said I offered to start a group. I know Gene told me something about this, but it does not appear to be an easy task. 4. DNA studies: Well what can I say ladies. For any of us who have female connections to this line and no male Penningtons, this is virtually useless to us. We just don't have the right stuff to use it. And whilst I wish the guys well, I am jealous. I wish I could prove my heritage so easily with some DNA work. By the way, I still harbor some misgivings about all DNA stuff that is goign on in genealogy. There are lots of questions yet to be answered about how to use this info. Tricky questions regarding ethics and such. 5. Web Page: Now I'm really going to put my foot in it. I think the PRA webpage needs help. I realize that this is all volunteers and since I am an officer in a couple volunteer organizations (not genealogical), I recognize that resources are always thin. That being said, it simply is not easy to understand. Some issues: * Web Queries: rather than having them organized by month and year and therefore requiring somebody to wade through them, why not let them just exist as a long chain as many other such queries pages do. It is FAR easier to scan a long chain of things than opening and reviewing and closing each monthly set. I can scan quickly. I've never gone through all the PRA ones because I just don't have that many hours. * Family Groups: if PRA is serious about getting lots of groups going and you should be because there are a ton of us who do not fit into the existing groups, then you need to do this in a manner that encourages formation. How about an online form requesting a new group that can be submitted and some kind of specified and easily understood way to accomplish this task. Telling people to contact Gene and then providing all that info. about the way groups must be named and all is intimidating at best, discouraging at worst. Instead of 34 groups, I'd like to see more than 100....whatever number it takes to get as much information about these lines available as possible. That is how we are going to connect the dots to each other. * Research: I don't expect anyone from any group to do my research. I expect to do it myself. I also expect to gather up whatever I can about Pennington's (like the Greenmount line that is not mine) and share it. That being said. HOW? Give me some forms to fill out online. Give me some easily explained directions for submitting info. * General Comment: I just find the PRA web page very difficult to get around. In some ways it provides way too much information about some things and then gives nearly no exact directions on others. If there isn't a web page committee, there needs to be one. OK, so now that I have annoyed most of the PRA world. You may ask, who the heck do I think I am. Why a Penington, of course. Regards, Cher At 10:04 PM 01/05/2004 -0600, you wrote: >Dear Cher, > >I think your question is very valid. Others may be equally confused. I will >certainly be happy to visit with you on all these questions as I'm sure >others will. You may email me personally at <[email protected]> or via >this PRA-L list. Other officers of the group may also want to respond to >the particular questions that concern their area of expertise. Please >forgive me if I don't answer these questions in an orderly manner but I will >certainly try. > >First, the "Journal" is the "Pennington Pedigrees" which is published twice >yearly. It includes articles by members and researchers to hopefully >further all of our research. As a member of the Pennington Research >Association, you should be receiving the Journals. You may also order back >copies of this journal for a fee. The list is available at the association >website of www.penningtonresearch.org .There is also an index available of >some of the back issues that might assist you in knowing which back issues >to order to assist in your research. Our editor is a wonderfully talented >and organized person who puts major effort into a quality publication. She >relies heavily on the membership to submit material for these publications. >The volunteer editor is Barrie Petty <[email protected]>. You can even send >the material via email to her or by snail mail. > >All our membership hopefully understands that the entire organization is >made up of volunteers interested in researching the Pennington surname and >maintaining friendships with Penningtons. There is a yearly reunion where >many of the membership (and some non-members) get together. This year's >reunion will be at Earlham College in Indiana where the newly established >Pennington archives are being housed and being overseen by member Dr. Jasper >Green Pennington (again a volunteer). These reunions are held in various >places and hosted by various members. > >You are definitely my kind of researcher. Whenever, I am researching >somewhere and see a Pennington name, I collect or photograph the information >and share it (usually via the journal). It has been amazing to me, how me >of my group 11 members do not use computers at all and contact me via the >normal mail service. In today's society, we simply take it for granted that >everyone has a computer. There is still no substitute for visiting >courthouses, libraries, cemeteries etc. to obtain the information needed to >further the research. > >Now then, you say you have offered to establish a group of your Pennington >family. I think that is a wonderful idea. There are several Ross that I've >seen in the various families. None seem to be quite as early as your's. >The earliest one I find is a Ross Benton Pennington born 1857 in >Pennsylvania. The progenitor of this group is Edmund of abt. 1753 (group >14). Of course, this may not be your group at all. Other members may have >other ideas on what direction you might go. The Josiah you mentioned is >another one that isn't really spoken to so it may mean researching both >families to figure out which way to go. > >I'm so pleased that you've brought up all these questions. They all need to >be addressed and without the questions, the officers cannot know where the >memberships needs lie. It sounds like you have done some excellent work >on your family. Please don't give up and I would like for others to >respond as well with suggestions. > >Regards, >Shirley Erickson (group 11, Abel died 1819 Alabama and yes, I'm still >looking for his parents) > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 9:50 AM >Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > Shirley, What is "the journal" that is available to people without > > computer ability? I don't know what you are talking about. I'd be happy > > to share anything I have with everyone, but I mostly find this nearly > > impossible to accomplish. > > > > What I have is this: > > * I have my particular line documented back to about Ross T. >Penington, > > Sr. born 1820 Baltimore, MD. I have produced the GedCom for this and > > submitted to PRA. > > * I have documented two family grave plots in Greenmount Cemetery, > > Baltimore, MD. One holds my direct family members Penington in the >"Mumma" > > family plot. This documentation included plotting it, photographing it >and > > getting the burial cards from Greenmount. > > * I have done the same in Greenmount for another plot that is > > Pennington, but is not so far as I am aware directly related to my > > line. This is the Josiah Pennington family back to 1803. I have plotted > > it, photographed it. I did not bother to get the burial cards as they do > > not seem to be mine and nobody expressed interest in the info. > > * I joined PRA as a member. > > * I have offered to establish a new group the contains my Baltimore > > Penington family. > > I admit that I must be dense because I don't seem to grasp how best to >work > > with PRA. Just tell me what you want me to do and I will happily provide > > whatever I can and share whatever I have. If you want my info. printed in > > "the journal" then just explain how. That goes for all manner of other > > things. I sincerely hope I am not the only dense person out here. > > Cher > > > > > > > > > > At 09:43 AM 01/05/2004 -0600, you wrote: > > >That would be a wonderful item for the website but please consider also > > >having it printed in the journal. That way those that have no computer > > >ability can also enjoy. > > > > > >Shirley Erickson > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> > > >To: <[email protected]> > > >Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 1:18 PM > > >Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > > > > > > > Hi. I still have the plot plan and so forth for the Pennington >Greenmount > > > > Cemetery Plot that I did last year. Will you have the ability on the >new > > > > web site to gather documents and photos and make them available to > > > > everyone? If so, I can post the entire map and the individual grave > > >cards. > > > > Cher > > > > > > > > At 10:18 AM 01/03/2004 -0700, you wrote: > > > > >Hi Cheryl, > > > > > I certainly understand your frustration, I can't tell you how >many > > > > >places I posted my relative to in hopes of finding someone. I was >just > > > > >stubborn and probably somewhat of a pest until I found a will >probated in > > >MD > > > > >for my grandfather Thomas. Then I reposted that information to the >PRA > > >list > > > > >and got lucky in finding my cousins. While finding a Family Group in >the > > > > >PRA to belong is helpful and the cousins that share a common ancestor > > >makes > > > > >everyone's tree grow like > > > > >it is on hormones or something. It is also important for anyone >tracking > > > > >ancestors to continue working on the person they are stuck on. If you > > >find > > > > >them on some census, some year in someplace, follow-up in the same >area > > >for > > > > >any probate records. While you are there, look for the marriage and >go > > >back > > > > >to the census for the other surname. Many times I found missing >family > > > > >members and grandparents because they were living with the married > > >inlaws. > > > > > Keep posting to the lists !!! POST a family query; POST what >record > > >you > > > > >have for the person; POST a marriage ; POST EVERYTHING and keep >searching > > > > >and posting everything and I promise you, you will eventually find >your > > > > >cousins. > > > > > I agree with you, with the PRA opening the various family files >we > > >will > > > > >be reach more people, share more information and at a much shorter >time > > > > >span. And with the DNA testing, if some of you haven't found your > > >cousins, > > > > >the DNA could at least point a finger to a group of cousins. > > > > > Thanks for posting Cheryl and Bob. By the way, Cheryl I haven't > > >forgot > > > > >about your Ross Pennington. Oh, do you remember the cemetery plot of > > > > >Pennington at Green Mount you sent me? It might help others to post >the > > > > >information to the mailing lists as well. We aren't able to send > > >attachments > > > > >to the mailing lists but at least you could post the information for >the > > > > >others. That is what we are all about - sharing! > > > > > Hang in there - you guys ! > > > > > > > > > >Rene'e Davis, CFO > > > > >ARD, Family Groups > > > > >PRA - Group 9 > > > > >Pennington Research Association, Inc. > > > > >www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > >From: "Spaulding" <[email protected]> > > > > >To: <[email protected]> > > > > >Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 7:36 AM > > > > >Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] OK, I'm confused about PRA family groups. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I certainly have shared Bob's angst and frustration with the PRA > > > > > > groups. My line, which is Baltimore based is well documented but >does > > >not > > > > > > go back far enough yet to connect to any of the PRA groups. It is >all > > > > >well > > > > > > and good Barb to suggest that membership in PRA and in a group >isn't > > > > > > mandatory, but the reality is that, up until now, the focus of PRA >has > > > > > > understandably been on the groups where the vast majority of >active > > > > > > research is taking place. Those of us who have no group have been > > >left > > > > >out > > > > > > in the cold and told to keep researching so that we can find a > > >connection > > > > > > to a PRA group. That's not much help, or very encouraging, >frankly. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am happy to have joined PRA, but I frankly have found it > > >anticlimatic > > > > >for > > > > > > the present. I am waiting with great expectation to the coming >change > > >in > > > > > > PRA which I believe will alter it to the better. The opening up >of > > >ALL > > > > >the > > > > > > records of all these lines to everyone through the new web access > > >planned, > > > > > > I believe, for February is a major shift in PRA. It is welcome >and it > > >was > > > > > > needed. When that happens, I suspect membership in PRA will >become > > > > > > something far more useful to all of us and being able to connect >to a > > > > > > particular "group" will be easier to accomplish. > > > > > > > > > > > > So hang in there Bob, things are about to change. Membership >will be > > > > > > required to access this new web based information, I believe, and >that > > > > > > makes sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheryl > > > > > > > > > > > > At 12:56 AM 01/03/2004 -0500, you wrote: > > > > > > >Dear Bob, > > > > > > >You are far from the first person to become confused by the PRA > > >groups. > > > > > > >They were started as a way to distinguish between the different >lines > > >and > > > > > > >when two lines were found to connect via a mutual ancestor, > > > > > > >then the two lines were merged as one. I am a former member of >PRA > > >and > > > > > > >during my years with PRA, I believed myself linked to Groups 12, >7, > > >and > > > > > > >later to Group 32. But these are merely tools, not mandatory in >any > > >way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >As to the groups being mostly back to an ancestor who was found >here > > >on > > > > > > >American soil, we are all trying to get back across that big >ocean, > > >but > > > > > > >seldom with any success. So it looks like you may already be a >step > > > > > > >ahead in that your ancestors came over more recently than many of >our > > > > > > >ancestors. If you are a member of PRA, you may be able to start >a > > >group, > > > > > > >if one does not appear to exist for your line. However, >membership > > >in > > > > > > >either a Group or in PRA itself is not required to access a great > > >deal of > > > > > > >data through these lists. Most of us love to share with others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >As to the lists, Pennington-L is an independent group owned and >run > > >by > > > > > > >Steve Privett, and PRA-L is a list run by PRA, of course. I'd > > >suggest > > > > > > >remaining on the list and sending out an occasional query as you >just > > > > > > >did. I know there are a few folks who are over in Great Britain, >who > > >are > > > > > > >researching as we are, for our Pennington ancestors. Possibly >some > > >of > > > > > > >these list members may be helful to you. Otherwise, since there >is > > > > > > >probably a good paper trail, I'd go ahead and send off for as >much as > > >I > > > > > > >could afford from British offices and agencies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Have you done much research with the U.S. sources? If you have >been > > > > > > >researching for awhile, you probably have looked at many sources >of > > >data > > > > > > >on your family, but there may be more you might have missed. Let >us > > >know > > > > > > >what you have tried so far. Have you checked the 1930 Census? > > >Marriage > > > > > > >records? Church records? Let us know. Many of us would like to > > >help if > > > > > > >we can. 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I have been researching Penningtons in New Jersey for family group 20. I believe that the information on the progenitor listed for this group is incorrect. I thought I would share some of the information I have gathered. I am continuing my research and will be making a trip to the New Jersey Historical Society in Newark. If anyone has any NJ research requests or questions, I would be happy to add them to my list. The current construction for my pedigree of Nathaniel Pennington of Family Group 20 looks like this: Nathaniel Pennington b. 5 Aug 1788 Warren Twp. Somerset Co. NJ d. 7 Aug 1863 North Wilna, Jefferson Co. NY John Pennington b. 3 Sep 1761 Mendham Twp. Morris Co. NJ d. 21 Sep 1841 Warren Twp. Somerst Co. NJ Jonathan Pennington b. 1737 Mendham Twp. Morris Co. NJ d. 9 Oct 1815 Bernards Twp. Somerset Co. NJ Timothy Pennington b. abt 1684 Newark Essex Co. NJ d. abt 1749 Mendham Twp. Morris Co. NJ (note: Timothy's brother Judah is the ancestor of William Sanford Pennington and his son William Pennington - both Governors of NJ. Timothy's brother Ephraim III is thought to be the father of Ephraim Pennington who died abt 1750 Rowan NC) Ephraim Jr. Pennington b. abt 1648 New Haven Colony, CT d. 28 Jan 1695 Newark Essex Co. NJ Ephraim Pennington d. abt 1662 New Haven Colony CT You can see my complete rootsweb gedcom of this family at http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SHOW&db=mcummi ngs&recno=0 Mandy Cummings Colgan - Family Group 20 New Jersey Pensioners, 1835 - Ancestry.com John Pennington Private Somerset Co. New Jersey Militia Pension began March 4, 1831 TWENTY MEN FROM WARREN SERVED IN REVOLUTION "Warren History", Volume One, No. 9, Spring 1993, Warren Township Historical Society. http://www.warrennj.org/wths/index.htm John Penington (he spelled his name with one "n") received his pension on Feb. 19, l833, to begin March 4, l834, at the rate of $26.66 per month. Seventy-one when he applied, Penington was born on Sept. 3, l761 and died Sept. 21, l841, survived by his widow, sons James and William, and a daughter, Sarah Smith. Penington made his "declaration" in support of his application in open court: "On this fifteenth day of August in the Year of our Lord One Thousand Eight Hundred and thirty two personally appeared in open court before the Judges of the Inferior Court of Common Pleas in and for said County of Somerset now sitting John Pennington, a resident of the County of Somerset afore-said and State of New Jersey, aged seventy one in September next who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefits of the Act of Congress passed June 7, l832. That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers and served as herein stated. That he entered the service at Basking ridge by volunteering under Cap[t]. Corey. Served one month. Marched to Elizabeth Town. Thinks Frelinghuysen was Col. He again volunteered and served one month under Cap[t]. Sebring. Marched to Elizabeth Town. He again volunteered and served one month under Cap[t]. McCoy. Marched to Elizabeth Town. He also served as a volunteer three other months. One month service under Cap[t]. McCoy at Elizabeth Town. He also volunteered and served one month under Cap[t]. McCoy. Marched to Springfield. Was at the battle. Many of the Continental troops was killed. He also volunteered and served one month under Lieut. Caterlin. Marched to Morristown. Employed in guarding prisoners. He was also employed for about one year as teamster attached to the Continental service, carrying provisions from Trenton, N.J. to Kingston and in providing provisions for the Maryland Regiment which was volunteering at Morristown. He was also employed for about 8 months as a teamster while the Army were at Winter Quarters on the Pluckamin Mountains. He was born in Mendham Township, County of Morris, N.J., on the 3d Sept. 1761. He has always lived in the County of Somerset. His brother Ephraim Pennington has the record of deponent's age made by his father. He has no documentary evidence of his said service that he knows of." Ephraim Penington, then 65, was also sworn, stating under oath that he "recollects of his said brothers having been called out into the service of the United States when his said brother was a little over sixteen years [of age]. That he was out in the service from that time...off ton till the end of the war." Penington's petition was endorsed by Congressman Isaac Southard, who certified that Ephraim Penington "is well known to me as a credible witness." [Pension S3670] [The officers mentioned in Pennington's account are: Benjamin Corey, captain, lst Battalion, Somerset County Militia; Frederick F. Frelinghuysen, colonel, ditto; John or Ruliff Sebring, captain, ditto; Ganen McCoy, captain, ditto; and Joseph Catterlin, lieutenant, lst Regiment, Somerset County Militia.] Cemetary Records of Warren Township Somerset County New Jersey: Mt. Bethel Cemetary/ compiled by Alan A Siegel, Warren Township Historical Society, 1998. John Penington 3 Sep 1761 Sept. 21, 1841 Jane wife of John 1830 Census Warren Twp., Somerset Co. NJ pg. 85 James Pennington 1010010000000 - 2200100000000 William Pennington 1020010000000 - 2120010000000 John Pennington 0010000010000 - 0000100010000 Nathaniel Pennington 0000001001100 - 0000001000000 Ephraim Pennington 0101100010000 - 0111000100000 1830 Census Bernards, Somerset Co. NJ pg. 97 Elijah Pennington 0022001000000 - 2000100000000 HISTORY OF MACOUPIN COUNTY, ILLINOIS WITH ILLUSTRATIONS DESCRIPTIVE OF ITS SCENERY, AND BIOGRAPHICAL SKETCHES OF SOME OF ITS PROMINENT MEN AND PIONEERS. Published by Brink, McDonough & Co., Philadelphia 1879 James T. Pennington was born at Liberty Corner, Somerset county, New Jersey, May 26th, 1818. His grandfather, John Pennington, was a lieutenant in one of the New Jersey regiments during the revolutionary war. His father was Elijah Pennington, and his mother, Martha Todd. When seventeen, he became an apprentice at the carpenter's trade. He came to Illinois in the spring of 1839. New Jersey Census, 1772-1890 on Ancestry.com Name: JONATHAN PENINGTON State: NJ County: Morris County Township: Morris Township Year: 1771 Page: 035 Database: NJ Early Census Index Name: JONATHAN PENINGTON State: NJ County: Somerset County Township: Bernards Township Year: 1803 Record Type: June Tax List Page: 011 Database: NJ Tax Lists Index 1772-1822 Some Early Records of Morris County, New Jersey 1740-1799/ edited by Harriet Stryker-Rodda, Morris County Archives Publications Committee, New Orleans: Polyanthos, 1975. pg. 73 List of Ratables in the Township of Morris - 1768 Jonathan Penniton no land, 3 horses and cattle, value= 3s 15d, poor tax 1s 6d, county tax 1s, sinking fund tax 10d "Mayflower Families Through Five Generations, Volume 11, Part 2, Edward Doty: His descendants through sons Thomas and Samuel, and daughters Desire and Elizabeth", compiled by Peter B. Hill, published 1996 by the General Society of Mayflower Descendants Generation 5 Page 109 The will of Jonathan Pennington of Bernardstown, Somerset Co. NJ, signed 24 Feb. 1815, proved 30 Oct. 1815, mentions wife Osee; dau. Osie Alward; granddaus. Mary McCoy, Anna Hand and Ossie Alward; grandson Jonathan Alward; grandson William Alward; grandsons Henry and Jacob Alward; grandson Joseph Alward; and granddau. Elizabeth Alward. Executors were dau. Osie Alward and grandson Jonathan Alward The Presbyterian Church - Basking Ridge, Bernards Twp. NJ 1 East Oak Street Basking Ridge, NJ USA 07920 Cemetary Burial Records - Old Church Yard http://www.brpc.org/history/cemeteryburialrecords.shtml Pennington, Jonathan 1737 October 9, 1815 Pennington, Osee Alward 1764 April 4, 1823 Pennington, Osee, wife of Jonathan 1741 March 21, 1830 Osborn, Jonathan M. 1796 July 25, 1881 Osborn, Phebe, wife of Jonathan 1799 July 5, 1848 Doty, Abagail P., wife of Stephen 1788 August 28, 1872 Doty, Alice Amelia, dau. of Daniel W. & Rosa J. 1846 April 8, 1847 Doty, Ann, dau. of Tobias H. & Mary 1812 December 20, 1812 Doty, Anna, wife of Stephen 1778 October 15, 1827 Doty, Daniel W. 1800 July 9, 1851 Doty, Daniel 1761 1823 Doty, Elizabeth 1770 1848 Doty, Elwin Alonzo, son of Samuel S. & Sarah 1836 March 12, 1838 Doty, Isaac, son of Samuel & Sarah 1819 September 11, 1822 Doty, James, son of Samuel & Sarah 1825 May 17, 1831 Doty, Martha H., wife of Uriah 1796 June 15, 1854 Doty, Mary C., wife of Bernard 1783 July 12, 1833 Doty, Sarah Maria, dau. of Gen. & Mary 1814 July 25, 1838 Doty, Sarah S., dau. of Samuel S. & Sarah 1830 June 21, 1831 Doty, Sarah, wife of Sam. S. Doty, dau. of Hon. H. Southard 1794 October 2, 1847 Doty, Stephen 1784 July 16, 1843 Doty, Susan 1821 May 21, 1831 Doty, Uphyme, dau. of Skillman & Hannah May 14, 1804 Doty, Uriah S. 1796 November 1, 1883 Alward, Benj. 1751 October 24, 1813 Alward, Deborah, wife of Jonathan - X March 21, 1788 January 10, 1855 Alward, Edward Hill, son of Jno. & Deb. - X November 20 1809 September 22, 1844 Alward, Edward 1809 September 22, 1834 Alward, Elisha - X 1775 Mar. 20, 1802 Alward, Elizabeth Ann, Dau. of Jno. & Deb. - X June 25, 1823 May 27, 1832 Alward, Frances, Dau. of Jno. & Deb. - X January 10, 1819 January 15, 1844 Alward, Henry - X 1718 May 3, 1782 Alward, Jonathan Pennington, son of Jn. & Deb.-X May 21, 1812 April 21, 1841 Alward, Jonathan - X April 17, 1786 October 9, 1860 Alward, Mary Frances, wife of Waters - X 1824 1906 Alward, Mary, wife of Henry -X 1728 October 14, 1776 Alward, Osee, dau.of Jno.? Pennington 1764 April 4, 1823 Pennington Research Association Family Group 1 http://www.penningtonresearch.org/family_groups/fg2000-01.htm Timothy Pennington was born about 1684 in Newark, Essex Co., NJ. He died in 1748/49 in Mendham, Morris Co., NJ. Timothy's will is dated 30 Oct. 1749. He names his three minor sons, Elijah, Jonathan and Ephriam. His wife, Mary, and Joseph Dodd were named executors. The will was proved 22 Feb. 1749. Inventory was taken on 25 Feb. 1749. Pennington Research Association Family Group 1 http://www.penningtonresearch.org/family_groups/fg2000-01.htm Judah Pennington was born about 1682 in Newark, Essex Co., NJ. He died before 1738. All of the descendants of Judah Pennington in this report were taken from the book "THE PENNINGTON FAMILY" by CART. A.C.M. PENNINGTON, 2d Art'y U.S.A.; BRV'T COL. U.S.A. BRV'T BRIG. GEN. U.S. VOLS. REPRINTED WITH ADDITIONS, FROM VOL. WWV OF THE N. E. HISTORICAL and GENEALOGICAL REGISTER, BOSTON. Printed by David Clapp & Son 1871. Anne \ was born about 1692. She died on October 8, 1749 in Newark, Essex Co., NJ. Judah Pennington and Anne \ had the following children: i. Experience Pennington was born in November 1724 in Newark, Essex Co., NJ. She died on September 18, 1741 in Newark, Essex Co., NJ. She was buried in Newark, Essex Co., NJ. ii. Samuel Pennington (born about 1725). A History of the Horseneck Riots Thesis by Max K. Vorwerk, 1948 Published by the Caldwell Bicentennial Committee, Caldwell, NJ Thirty three years after the founding of Newark, we learn that the townspeople desired to purchase another tract of land, lying on the other side of the first Watchung Mountain and extending to the Passaick River. This Section was known as Horseneck and today would include: Caldwell, West Caldwell, North Caldwell, Verona, Essex Fells, Roseland, Caldwell Township, Cedar Grove and Livingston. From the town records of Newark we have the following information concerning this contemplated purchase: "At a Town Meeting in Newark, October 2, 1699 -- First -- it was agreed by the generality of the Town, that they would endeavor to make a Purchase of a Tract of Land lying Westward of our Bounds, to the South Branch of the Passaick River; and such of the Town as do contribute to the purchasing of the s'd Land, shall have their Proportion according to their contribution. 2ndly, that Mr. Pierson and Ensign Johnson are chosen, to go and treat with the Proprietors about the same, to obtain a Grant. 3rdly, there was a Committee chosen (viz) Samuel Harrison, Thomas Davis, Robert Young, Daniel Dod, Nathaniel Ward and John Cooper, to consider, agree and put forward and Design abovesaid." (1) This tract of land was never obtained from the Proprietors by Mr. Pierson and Ensign Johnson. Whatever the difficulties may have been in negotiating this grant we do not know. However, we do know that the townspeople were not deterred by the set-back, but determined to buy the land lying at Horseneck directly from the Indians. In 1701 they drew up Articles of Agreement which would govern the proposed purchase. The Agreement read as follows: "This third Day of September one Thousand Seven Hundred and sd Committe to Lay down So much money or moneys upon the Demand of ye Committe aforesd to Defray and pay for the aforesd Land and Premises and all Such Charges as shall Necessarily Accrue thereunto according to our proportion by our Subscription &c: 41y. We the aforesd Subscribers Do Covenant and agre with Each other and the aforesd Committee that the aforesd Land Shall be purchased and paid for by us the Subscribers and So Shall be held and continued as our Just Rights Either in General or perticular allotments as the major part Shall agre from time to time and that none of ye sd purchasers their heirs or assigns Shall at any time appropriate any of ye sd Lands or premises by any manner of way or means but by allotments fairly and Legally Drawn as the part of the Subscribers Shall agre, and if any Subscribees for one Lott his Right Shall be according Such as Subscribe for two Lotts or for three Lotts their Rights Shall be according and when the major part of ye Subscribers Shall agre to come to alottments that then he or they that have more than one Lott Shall Draw Severally according to ye number of their Lotts Subscribed for and Shall have their Land as it falls to them by alotment &c. "And for the Confirmation of Each and Every article thing or things aforesd the Subscribers for our Selves our heirs Executors administrators and assigns Do by these presents bind and Oblige our Selves unto Each other to Stand to Ratifie and Confirm Each Article and thing aforesaidd. "in Confirmation hereof we the Subscribers have Voluntarily and unanimously Set to our hands the Day and Year above Written &c. John Treat, 1 Lot Hugh Roberts, 1 Lot Daniel Crane, 1 Lot Robert Young, 2 Lots Joseph Harrison, 1 Lot Sam'll Dod, 2 Lots Daniel Dod, 1 Lot Joseph Brown, 1 Lot Eliphelet Johnson, 1 Lot Paul Day, 1 Lot Nath. Whelar jun, 2 Lots John Medlis, 1 Lot Thomas Brown, 1 Lot Sam'll Ward, 1 Lot Atonie Olive, 1 Lot Wm. Muir, 1 Lot Peter Cundict, 1 Lot John Daviss, 2 Lots Sam'll Baldwin, 1 Lot John Baldwin, Sr., 2 Lots Joseph Linsley, 1 lot Tunis Johnson, 1 Lot Tho. Ludington, 1 Lot Amos Williams, 1 Lot Sam'll Camp, 1 Lot Jonathan Sayers, 1 Lot Daniel Dod, Jun, 1 Lot John Johnson, 1 Lot Sam'll Cooper, 1 Lot Matthew Canfirld, 1 Lot Joseph Crane, 1 Lot John Plumb, 1 Lot Jonathan Sargint, 1 Lot John Broadberry, 1 Lot John Cooper, 1 Lot Azariah Crane, 3 Lots Daniel Baldwin, 1 Lot Jasper Crane, jun, 1 Lot Robert Cambel, 1 Lot Thomas Hays, 1 Lot John Clark, 3 Lots John Lee, 1 Lot Joseph Canfield, 2 Lots George Harrison, 1 Lot James Clizbee, 1 Lot John Cundict, 1 Lot Jose. Plumb, 1 Lot Daniel Brown, 1 Lot William Wilson, 1 Lot Sam'll Harrison, 1 Lot **Judah Penington, 1 Lot** Benjamin Harrison, 1 Lot Seth Tomkins, 1 Lot Sam'll Roberts, 1 Lot Sam'll Freeman, 1 Lot Joseph Ball, 1 Lot Cobus Provost, 1 Lot Matthew Williams, 1 Lot James Smith, 1 Lot Elezar Tomkins, 1 Lot Joseph Johnson, 1 Lot Mr. Wakeman, 1 Lot Sam'll Alling, 1 Lot Caleb Ball, 1 Lot John Crane, 1 Lot Elizabeth Ogden, 1 Lot Anthony Hand, 1 Lot David Ogden, 1 Lot Daniel Harrison, 1 Lot Ebenezer Lindsley, 1 Lot Jasper Crane, 3 Lot Ben. Baldwin, 1 Lot Nathaniel Ward, Sen, 1 Lot John Linsley, 1 Lot John Gardner, 1 Lot John Ogden, 1 Lot John Delgish, 1 Lot Thomas Brown, Jun, 1 Lot John Morris, 2 Lots John Burwell, 1 Lot John Rogers, 1 Lot Jonathan Linsley, 1 Lot William Brant, 3 Lots Mr. Pierson, 1 Lot Crispin Squire, 1 Lot Ele. Bruen, 1 Lot Edward Ball, 1 Lot Mr. John Pruden, 2 Lots Sam'll Lyon, 1 Lot Stephen Brown, 1 Lot Joseph Peck, 1 Lot Zophar Bech, 1 Lot James Rogers, 1 Lot Josiah Ogden, 1 Lot Sam'll Kitchel, 1 Lot Abraham Kitchel, 1 Lot Elezer Lamson, 1 Lot Daniel Tikenor, 1 Lot Daniel Sargent, 1 Lot Bostegon Vangeson, 1 Lot Joseph Wood, 1 Lot The New Jersey Historical Society http://www.jerseyhistory.org/findingaid.php?aid=0234 The Pennington Family of New Jersey is descended from Ephraim Pennington, one of the first settlers of Newark, New Jersey, whose father, also Ephraim Pennington, immigrated to New Haven, Connecticut around 1643. William Sanford Pennington, the sixth of the nine children of Mary Sanford (1725-1805) and Samuel Pennington (1725-1791), was born in 1757 in Newark, New Jersey. He was probably trained as a hatter, but at the outbreak of the Revolution joined the Continental Army and became, in 1777, a sergeant in the Second Regiment of Artillery under Colonel John Lamb and Major General Henry Knox. He advanced to the rank of second lieutenant in 1780, and at the end of the war was brevetted captain by a special act of Congress. After leaving the army, William S. Pennington studied law in the Newark office of Elias Boudinot, in addition to serving in the New Jersey State Assembly in 1797, 1798, and 1799. He was elected to the State Council in 1801 and reelected in 1802, the same year he was admitted to the bar as an attorney. During the next two years he served as the clerk of Essex County and was elected to fill a vacancy in the New Jersey Supreme Court, where he remained on the bench until 1813. For the majority of that time, he was also the Supreme Court's reporter. In 1812, Pennington was the Republican candidate for governor of New Jersey and the following year won the gubernatorial election, becoming New Jersey's governor from 1813-1814. The year after he left office, President James Madison appointed him a judge of the Federal District Court for New Jersey, a position that he kept until his death eleven years later. William S. Pennington married Phoebe Wheeler (d.1804), the daughter of Rhoda Lyon and Captain James Wheeler (ca.1740-1777), around 1786. They had ten children together, one of whom, William Pennington (1796-1862), also became a governor of New Jersey. After Phoebe's death, William S. Pennington married Elizabeth Pierson (d.1840) on July 13, 1805. He died on September 17, 1826. Sources: Dictionary of American Biography. Pennington Family File, The New Jersey Historical Society. New Jersey Marriages, 1684-1895 WILLIAM PENNINGTON LEWIS, SUSAN A. 21 Jun 1866 Somerset NJ ANDREW GILES PENNINGTON, LYDIA 31 Aug 1823 Somerset NJ CORNELIUS SMITH PENNINGTON, SARAH 16 Mar 1823 Somerset NJ ELIJAH W. STITES PENNINGTON, RACHEL 6 Jan 1830 Somerset NJ GEORGE CHANDLER PENNINGTON, MARRY 26 Jul 1834 Somerset NJ GEORGE W. MUNDY PENNINGTON, GULETTA 8 Oct 1845 Somerset NJ ISAAC CHANDLER PENNINGTON, JANE 3 Dec 1838 Somerset NJ JAMES PENNINGTON STANBURY, LECTA 11 Sep 1831 Somerset NJ JOHN Jr. PENNINGTON JOBS, JANE 25 Oct 1828 Somerset NJ JONATHAN VANTUYLE PENNINGTON, JANE 12 Apr 1834 Somerset NJ NEHEMIAH V. SMALLEY PENNINGTON, ELIZABETH 20 Oct 1846 Somerset NJ NEWE MILLER PENNINGTON, MARY 11 Jan 1834 Somerset NJ WILLIAM PENNINGTON BROWN, ANN 13 Sep 1813 Somerset NJ WILLIAM E. PENNINGTON STITES, ANN 26 Jan 1843 Somerset NJ

Tom and all Pennington Cousins, I must second Rene'e and say that I do enjoy reading all the postings. So far I have been unable to be officially hooked up with any group but I claim Group 9. My brick wall is still Azariah/Azarias Pennington b. 1801/02, born in or around Cecil County, Maryland. Married Rebecca Crouch b. 1806, Cecil Co., Md. Married on 15 Sept 1824. Children of Azarias and Rebecca Pennington are: John J. b. Nov 1838 Martha Jane b. 31 July 1845 Mary Jane Enoch b. 4 Dec 1833 Robert T. b. ? Pheobe E. b. 1 Sept 1854 Mary Ann Anderson John J. married Louisa Ellen Rutter b. 13 Oct 1841 (they married 7 Nov 1864) Children of John J. and Louisa Ellen Sarah R. b. 1865 Amelia E. b. 1870 William Hyland/Highland Rutter b. 20 Nov 1874 Julia W. b. 1877 Alexander Hamilton George b. 27 Dec 1879 Mary Jane Penington (she may have been a niece living with John J. and Louisa) Rebecca Penington ( this must have been the mother of John J. and living with them as shown on the 1880 U.S. Census of Maryland, Cecil Co., 5th Dist. Alexander Hamilton George was my grandfather. He died the year that I was married, 1957. He married Mary Tudor Lodge b. 17 Jan 1889 near Elkton, Cecil Co., Md. I have documentation for most of this. Three of the 7 children of Alexander Hamilton George and Mary Tudor Lodge Pennington are still living. My father and his two brothers. All 4 of my father's sister's have died. Since I am in the Pacific Northwest and snowed in at the moment, lol lol it is hard to do much hands on research back in Maryland. If any of you have anymore information on the parents of Azariah/Azarias, I sure would love to chat with you. Georgia Ann Pennington Sligar ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rene'e Davis" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 3:13 PM Subject: Re: Group Courtesy > Tom - > Sorry, but I thought the reason for the mailing list was sharing > information. I would think if we were clogging the list - the webmaster > would let us know. > > Rene'e Davis, CFO > ARD, Family Groups > PRA - Group 9 > Pennington Research Association, Inc. > www.penningtonresearch.org > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Olsen" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 11:08 PM > Subject: Group Courtesy > > > > Folks, please, when replying to others, do not send to the whole group. > You > > are clogging the email of folks not involved in your discussion. Tom > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > PRA publications are available at the PRA Web Site at > > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > Learn what's new at the PRA. To learn more, go to --> http://www.penningtonresearch.org and click on the "News" link on the left side of the page. >