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    1. Re: PRA Annual Reunion
    2. Arthur Pennington
    3. Jeffrey, Here is what I found on the PRA website... 2004 Pennington Research Association Annual Reunion and Meeting will be held at Earlham College, site of our PRA Research Library/Archive, in Richmond, Indiana July 22 - 24, 2004. http://penningtonresearch.org/Events/PRAreunion.htm Hope this helps! Arthur Pennington Group 4 --- "Jeffrey W. Lawrence" <[email protected]> wrote: > Does anybody have any information on the upcoming PRA Reunion in > July. > > Jeffrey W. Lawrence > E-Mail: [email protected] > Fax: (603)251-8311 > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > For more information about the PRA DNA Study, visit our Web Site at > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/

    02/02/2004 12:04:23
    1. PRA Annual Reunion
    2. Jeffrey W. Lawrence
    3. Does anybody have any information on the upcoming PRA Reunion in July. Jeffrey W. Lawrence E-Mail: [email protected] Fax: (603)251-8311

    02/01/2004 01:47:32
    1. Re: JFMF & My Family Site
    2. Wondering if you have an Honor Pennington that married a Strunk in your line! Kathryn Strunk McKaig

    02/01/2004 09:36:34
    1. Pennington Pedigrees Back-ups
    2. JD Pennington
    3. Hi folks, Does anyone know where the "Pedigrees" electronic back-ups of previous issues are kept? JDPennington

    02/01/2004 09:25:55
    1. Re: Penningtons not in a group...
    2. Arthur Pennington
    3. Cheryl, [I sent a reply last night but it looks like it didn't make it to the list. I am sending again so if it ends up posting twice, my apologies in advance.] Maybe I'm missing something but I think you will find a number of misc files in addition to the Group files on the new website. I also see a file, "Edward H Penington by Cheryl Spaulding", so I am under the impression that making all data available is occuring. Currently, there is so much data to review it's going to take me quite some time to digest it all. And, more than likely, there will be more added as time goes on. In reviewing the PRA site, it does explain how new groups can be formed when a Pennington does not fit into an existing group. You may want to review the following link as it may answer some of your questions: http://penningtonresearch.org/family_groups/newfmgrp.htm It's been my experience that since I joined the PRA 3 years ago, that members have literally jumped out of their skin to help. Gene (Group 7), Mike (Group 16), and others have helped point me to some interesting links and data for reviewing. Hope this helps! Arthur --- Spaulding <[email protected]> wrote: > Carmen, > > I have submitted my Penington Gedcom to Gene already. I have a tree > back > to Ross T. Penington. I cannot yet connect him to any of the > existing > Groups you have. I may never be able to connect him because he may > be a > part of a Group you have never identified. > > The question I have raised is, I believe, at the heart of a major > point of > PRA. Presumably, PRA exists to encourage and assist with the > research of > the Pennington/Penington lines - all the lines - wherever they may be > in > the world, with whatever connections they have or do not have and > however > short or long they are. I frankly believe that the fact that some > lines do > not connect to existing Groups is irrelevant. I also very strongly > believe > that ALL Pennington/Penington genealogical information should be > posted by > PRA on this new web page. Every shred of information, even short > pieces of > trees can become critical to research to others who are looking for > data. One tiny piece can bring together a whole line, as you know. > > That being said, I do understand that there needs to be control from > PRA on > altering existing data. If you want to weight or assign lines that > have > been particularly well documented with something other lines do not > get, > fine. But the sharing of the information is the point of all this. > I am > willing to accept that you have already ascertained that my Ross > Penington > line does not fit any Group. But he is Penington and it is a line, > that is > my point. It therefore should carry the same weight and be of the > same > value as any other line you now have. > > What I expect to get from PRA and from this web page, is access to > all of > the information about all the Penington/Penningtons that is known. > All of > it. Even the tiny shreds and bits of stuff that doesn't fit neatly > into > existing Groups. The focus of this new PRA web page should be on the > > future, more than it is on the past. The JFMF Master file is a > wonderful > accomplishment and it is wonderful STARTING point for PRA to begin to > > gather Penington/Pennington research from all over the world and help > put > it together. > > I believe in serendipity. Fortune shines upon a group of dedicated > people > trying to get to a common goal from many different places. That is > what > PRA can make possible. > > Cheryl __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/

    02/01/2004 06:36:29
    1. Re: JFMF & My Family Site
    2. carmen...i paid my dues in nov/dec timeframe..i have the cancelled check..#1701 from pra...hope this helps...also i would be listed as patrick a. pennington i go by andy - the a. in the signature....thanks...andy

    02/01/2004 04:26:09
    1. Re: My Family Update
    2. Hi Carmon, I'm not sure if I signed up for the Family web site or not, but I would like to. Connie Hinkle

    02/01/2004 02:54:55
    1. Re: Message...
    2. Rene'e Davis
    3. Carmen, In my opinion, I think we should use the mailing list for questions on myfamily website. In this way everyone will undoubtly learn something - I know I have. I am sure there are others out there who may be to shy to post. Perhaps the answers to questions will help them also. I feel sure that all of us can be professional and polite. If we can't answer their questions we can surely point them in the right direction. Carmen and Andy - thanks for posting... Rene'e Davis, CFO ARD, Family Groups PRA - Group 9 Pennington Research Association, Inc. www.penningtonresearch.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carmen M. Johnson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 4:23 PM Subject: Message... > I'm sorry that I posted the previous message to the list that I wrote to > Andy Pennington. I was going too fast. However, I feel that it is probably > a good idea to tell everyone that I am working off a list of those who are > current with their dues. If I don't have you on that list then I can't add > you to the MyFamily site. Those are the rules that I live by. In some > cases, we have had mistakes show up and in some other cases people have > forgotten to pay their dues. In either case I refer them to Barbara > Pennington. > > > > Once again, sorry for the mistake! > > > > Carmen > > Assistant Research Director - JFMF > > <http://www.penningtonresearch.org> www.penningtonresearch.org > > PRA Family Group 7 Leader > > <http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm> > http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm > > > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > For more information about the PRA DNA Study, visit our Web Site at > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > >

    01/31/2004 03:02:35
    1. Re: JFMF & My Family Site
    2. Rene'e Davis
    3. Hey Gang, When you log into myfamily.com, the front page will display. On the left above the copyright, there is headlines, top line (small print) Front Page; Addresses, Calendars, Chat, Family Trees, File Cabinet. All of the Family Trees for each of the PRA Family Groups are listed when you click 'Family Trees'. Further down the list you will find JFMF-2003. Any of these files, you as members can click and open each file, look or even download. If you suspect that you may belong a to a particular Family Group, open the Grp. number and do a "search" (toward the middle to the tool menu) for your ancestor. If you find a close match, click on the name (it will change colors) and then your can click on 'Story" and it is very easy reading. I hope this helps some of you. As all of us at the PRA have discussed on the mailing list, the JFMF is a huge reference file of over 50,000 Pennington and other surnames. It has taken us over two years to decide how we can best share the information with members ; find a reasonable and timely way to keep our Group Family Files updated by our Group Leaders. As we have mentioned the JFMF is only a reference tool and was started many years ago. Because of it's age, outdated or erroneous material submitted without sources, we chose to have our Group Leaders dissect (if that is the correct word) the JFMF. While the JFMF was a starting point for most of our Family Files, we have began the slow process of corrections, additions, source recording,etc. in our Group Files by the Group Leaders. Instead of one person (Carmen) taking sometimes a year to get the enormous amount of data for the family file (JFMF) updated, our Group Leaders are taking the responsibility to update the data for their respective groups. Think of it as, 32 (Family Groups) JFMFs instead of one (1) Master JFMF. In other words, we are trying to make the Family Group Files the most accurate and updated documentation of the Pennington Families possible for our members. I hope this has helped you. As mentioned, when we were approaching the opening of the new website - we still have some 'bugs' to work out and we have some "new varmints" showing up. But all of these areas will be 'exterminated' with a little patience. Have a fun, hunting weekend. Rene'e Davis, CFO ARD, Family Groups PRA - Group 9 Pennington Research Association, Inc. www.penningtonresearch.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carmen M. Johnson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 5:09 PM Subject: RE: JFMF & My Family Site > Georgia and everyone else, > > If you are having problems finding info - remember that the first page is > going have the copyright info, the PRA seal, and several other categories > running down the page. The main categories that you have to keep track of > will be News, Photos, and Online Family Trees. Most of the new information > and most interesting information will be in these areas. The JFMF files and > gedcoms are in the Online Family Trees. If you haven't used these sites > before - spend some time wandering around. Remember that it will take a > little bit to learn where things are and the fastest way to get where you > want. Everyone will have a bit of a learning curve - including myself! So > be patient and let me know when you have problems and I will try to help as > best I can! > > Carmen > Assistant Research Director - JFMF > www.penningtonresearch.org > PRA Family Group 7 Leader > http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm > > -----Original Message----- > From: Georgia Ellison [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 3:10 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: JFMF & My Family Site > > I can't find anything that refers to family trees on the home page of > www.myfamily.com > Am I looking in the right place? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carmen M. Johnson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 10:17 PM > Subject: JFMF & My Family Site > > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > Those of you who have contacted me and have been signed up for the My > Family > > site - I hope you are enjoying yourself! Those of you who haven't > contacted > > me - what are you waiting for??? I thought I would answer a few questions > > in general for everyone so you might understand better what is going on. > > > > > > > > Barbara Pennington and Gene Pennington sent me a spreadsheet of everyone > who > > has paid their dues. I filtered out those who had email addresses and > sent > > each of those who were up to date a message inviting them to the website > and > > asking them to agree to some Terms and Conditions before they were allowed > > to join up. So that is how I started. I have gone in and added each > person > > who has replied and gave them Guest Rights so they are allowed to browse > to > > their heart's content but can't change the data. I am keeping track of > > those who have contacted me on the same spread sheet! > > > > > > > > Back to the My Family site - some of you want to know where the JFMF > > database is. If you go down the page, you will find something that says > > family trees. Click on All Family Tree's and you will see all of the > > gedcoms that have been uploaded. To look at one of the gedcoms you would > > click on the link and it would open up with a window on top of your > browser. > > This is a browser window - if you have a Pop - Up blocker and it is coming > > up, try holding your Ctrl key when you click on the link. > > > > > > > > Most of the gedcoms will show up on your screen as a pedigree. This isn't > > really the easiest method to see all of the good stuff. Play around a bit > > and look at the toolbar items and menu items. You will probably see > > something that will show you the gedcom in Family View, Pedigree, or > Family > > Story. I prefer Family Story myself - it is much easier to see a bigger > > picture. > > > > > > > > Go and check out your line - is everything correct, up to date, etc. Do > you > > have data that you can provide? Please make sure you send it to your > Family > > Group Leader. You might want to share it on the PRA newslist as well. > > Remember that this newslist is a wonderful resource. Everything that gets > > posted to the newslist is part of the archives. As a member, you can > search > > the archives and sometimes find some wonderful information. Please keep > > looking and exploring. If you find some interesting info, or you want to > > share a point of view or idea - post it to the newslist. The DNA project > is > > a wonderful resource and we hope that it will give us a lot of > information, > > but it can't take the place of good old fashion research. It has been > > pointed out that the DNA test does us females little good unless we can > rope > > some poor unsuspecting male relative in getting tested. We need to still > do > > the research and share our ideas. > > > > > > > > Carmen Johnson > > > > Assistant Research Director - JFMF > > > > www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > PRA Family Group 7 Leader > > > > http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > PRA publications are available at the PRA Web Site at > > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > To learn about the PRA Family Groups, visit the PRA Web Site at > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > For more information about the PRA DNA Study, visit our Web Site at > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > >

    01/31/2004 02:55:46
    1. Re: Penningtons not in a group...
    2. Spaulding
    3. Carmen, I have submitted my Penington Gedcom to Gene already. I have a tree back to Ross T. Penington. I cannot yet connect him to any of the existing Groups you have. I may never be able to connect him because he may be a part of a Group you have never identified. The question I have raised is, I believe, at the heart of a major point of PRA. Presumably, PRA exists to encourage and assist with the research of the Pennington/Penington lines - all the lines - wherever they may be in the world, with whatever connections they have or do not have and however short or long they are. I frankly believe that the fact that some lines do not connect to existing Groups is irrelevant. I also very strongly believe that ALL Pennington/Penington genealogical information should be posted by PRA on this new web page. Every shred of information, even short pieces of trees can become critical to research to others who are looking for data. One tiny piece can bring together a whole line, as you know. That being said, I do understand that there needs to be control from PRA on altering existing data. If you want to weight or assign lines that have been particularly well documented with something other lines do not get, fine. But the sharing of the information is the point of all this. I am willing to accept that you have already ascertained that my Ross Penington line does not fit any Group. But he is Penington and it is a line, that is my point. It therefore should carry the same weight and be of the same value as any other line you now have. What I expect to get from PRA and from this web page, is access to all of the information about all the Penington/Penningtons that is known. All of it. Even the tiny shreds and bits of stuff that doesn't fit neatly into existing Groups. The focus of this new PRA web page should be on the future, more than it is on the past. The JFMF Master file is a wonderful accomplishment and it is wonderful STARTING point for PRA to begin to gather Penington/Pennington research from all over the world and help put it together. I believe in serendipity. Fortune shines upon a group of dedicated people trying to get to a common goal from many different places. That is what PRA can make possible. Cheryl At 06:22 PM 01/31/2004 -0800, you wrote: >Cheryl and other PRA members , >If you do not have a group # for whatever reason - usually because your data >is new to the group or whatever, you might think of Gene or I as your Family >Group Leader. This isn't something that we have discussed, but if you have >changes and they are well documented and sourced, send the info to Gene and >he can put it online. This is something that we may need to have some >discussion about. I don't know how we have handled the orphaned or >unconnected Pennington's in the past. In a perfect world, I could tell you >what group you are in. There are members of groups that don't necessarily >belong within that group but are closely associated with that group. Gene >Pennington is an example of that. He does not descend from Micajah >Pennington and Rachel Jones - rather we believe he descends from Micajah's >brother, Andrew. This is still theory, but we believe it to be true. There >are several members of Group 7 who have the same circumstance. John French >who was the research director at the time placed these people within Group 7 >- probably because we believe them to descend from Benajah Pennington. The >early wills burned in Ashe Co., NC, so we have no real paper proof to prove >the relationship between Benajah and probable sons Micajah and Andrew. The >fascinating thing about the DNA research is that it is supplying clues that >all of these Ashe Co., NC Pennington's may be related much closer than we >already know. > >Having said that, the answer may well be that we need to group some of these >unconnected Pennington's into geographic groups. That may be a better way >to distinguish who is connected with whom! > >Carmen >Assistant Research Director - JFMF >www.penningtonresearch.org >PRA Family Group 7 Leader >http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Spaulding [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 6:12 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: PRA-D Digest V04 #32 > >What if you are one of the Penington's who do not have a branch that fits >any of the Groups? How are you going to handle this? How will you list >the data? And how will people be able to access it? > >At 04:23 PM 01/31/2004 -0700, you wrote: > >-- > >This message has been scanned for viruses and > >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is > >believed to be clean. > > > > > >PRA-D Digest Volume 04 : Issue 32 > > > >Today's Topics: > > #1 JFMF & My Family Site ["Carmen M. Johnson" > > <[email protected]] > > #2 Re: JFMF Updates [[email protected]] > > #3 Re: JFMF Updates ["PHYLLIS WHEELER" > > <[email protected]] > > #4 Re: JFMF Updates--Sorry [[email protected]] > > #5 Re: JFMF & My Family Site [[email protected]] > > #6 Myfamily website - Grp. 9 ["Rene'e Davis" <[email protected]>] > > #7 Re: JFMF & My Family Site [[email protected]] > > #8 John French Master File (JFMF) [[email protected]] > > #9 Re: JFMF & My Family Site ["Georgia Ellison" > > <[email protected]] > > #10 RE: JFMF & My Family Site ["Carmen M. Johnson" > > <[email protected]] > > #11 Message... ["Carmen M. Johnson" > > <[email protected]] > > > >Administrivia: > >To unsubscribe from PRA-D, send a message to > > > > [email protected] > > > >that contains in the body of the message the command > > > > unsubscribe > > > >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > > >______________________________X-Message: #1 > >Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 19:17:44 -0800 > >From: "Carmen M. Johnson" <[email protected]> > >To: [email protected] > >Message-ID: <[email protected]> > >Subject: JFMF & My Family Site > >Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="us-ascii" > > > >Hello Everyone, > > > >Those of you who have contacted me and have been signed up for the My >Family > >site - I hope you are enjoying yourself! Those of you who haven't >contacted > >me - what are you waiting for??? I thought I would answer a few questions > >in general for everyone so you might understand better what is going on. > > > > > > > >Barbara Pennington and Gene Pennington sent me a spreadsheet of everyone >who > >has paid their dues. I filtered out those who had email addresses and sent > >each of those who were up to date a message inviting them to the website >and > >asking them to agree to some Terms and Conditions before they were allowed > >to join up. So that is how I started. I have gone in and added each >person > >who has replied and gave them Guest Rights so they are allowed to browse to > >their heart's content but can't change the data. I am keeping track of > >those who have contacted me on the same spread sheet! > > > > > > > >Back to the My Family site - some of you want to know where the JFMF > >database is. If you go down the page, you will find something that says > >family trees. Click on All Family Tree's and you will see all of the > >gedcoms that have been uploaded. To look at one of the gedcoms you would > >click on the link and it would open up with a window on top of your >browser. > >This is a browser window - if you have a Pop - Up blocker and it is coming > >up, try holding your Ctrl key when you click on the link. > > > > > > > >Most of the gedcoms will show up on your screen as a pedigree. This isn't > >really the easiest method to see all of the good stuff. Play around a bit > >and look at the toolbar items and menu items. You will probably see > >something that will show you the gedcom in Family View, Pedigree, or Family > >Story. I prefer Family Story myself - it is much easier to see a bigger > >picture. > > > > > > > >Go and check out your line - is everything correct, up to date, etc. Do >you > >have data that you can provide? Please make sure you send it to your >Family > >Group Leader. You might want to share it on the PRA newslist as well. > >Remember that this newslist is a wonderful resource. Everything that gets > >posted to the newslist is part of the archives. As a member, you can >search > >the archives and sometimes find some wonderful information. Please keep > >looking and exploring. If you find some interesting info, or you want to > >share a point of view or idea - post it to the newslist. The DNA project >is > >a wonderful resource and we hope that it will give us a lot of information, > >but it can't take the place of good old fashion research. It has been > >pointed out that the DNA test does us females little good unless we can >rope > >some poor unsuspecting male relative in getting tested. We need to still >do > >the research and share our ideas. > > > > > > > >Carmen Johnson > > > >Assistant Research Director - JFMF > > > >www.penningtonresearch.org > > > >PRA Family Group 7 Leader > > > >http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm > > > > > > > > > > > >______________________________X-Message: #2 > >Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 15:16:52 EST > >From: [email protected] > >To: [email protected] > >Message-ID: <[email protected]> > >Subject: Re: JFMF Updates > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > >In a message dated 1/30/2004 2:25:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, > >[email protected] writes: > > > >We now have 36 members on the MyFamily site who now have access to the >JFMF. > >There are still 139 of you out there who haven't joined yet. I've been > >working in the evenings getting everyone who wishes to join signed up as > >quickly as possible. Remember to write me and agree to the Terms and > >Conditions that I sent you previously and then I can sign you up! Have a > >good evening - I am heading to bed! > > > > > > > >Carmen Johnson > > > >Assistant Research Director - JFMF > > > ><http://www.penningtonresearch.org> www.penningtonresearch.org > > > >PRA Family Group 7 Leader > > > ><http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm> > >http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm > > > > > > > > > > > >"Friends are angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have trouble > >remembering how to fly." > > > >______________________________X-Message: #3 > >Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 12:46:50 -0800 > >From: "PHYLLIS WHEELER" <[email protected]> > >To: [email protected] > >Message-ID: <[email protected]> > >Subject: Re: JFMF Updates > >Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > > >Carman, > >I am confused. I joined PRA last fall and understand my dues covered > >until the end of the year. I haven't paid dues yet this year. I didn't > >know how much, where to send it, etc. > >What is the JFMF? If I pay my dues will I be informed? > >I am in Group 8. Does that make a difference? > >Enlighten me, please. > >Phyllis > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Carmen M. Johnson > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 10:24 PM > > Subject: JFMF Updates > > > > > > We now have 36 members on the MyFamily site who now have access to the > > JFMF. > > There are still 139 of you out there who haven't joined yet. I've been > > working in the evenings getting everyone who wishes to join signed up as > > quickly as possible. Remember to write me and agree to the Terms and > > Conditions that I sent you previously and then I can sign you up! Have >a > > good evening - I am heading to bed! > > > > > > > > Carmen Johnson > > > > Assistant Research Director - JFMF > > > > <http://www.penningtonresearch.org> www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > PRA Family Group 7 Leader > > > > <http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm> > > http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > To see our new list of resources, go to >http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > >______________________________X-Message: #4 > >Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 15:25:27 EST > >From: [email protected] > >To: [email protected] > >Message-ID: <[email protected]> > >Subject: Re: JFMF Updates--Sorry > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > >Carmen > >I'm doubly sorry. One for the email you received before I could write >you. > >the other to say I can't find a previous email from you. > >I hadn't looked in the spam folder the past few days and I would > >think that was where it went. I always find some mail in there > >that isn't spam, but for some reason they will land in there. > >Most definately I want to be a member. I have belonged to a few other list > >on MyFamily and have agreed to the terms they have. > >Please send or do whatever needs doing. Thanks and again, I'm sorry to >have > >to bother you so. Lois Tonoff Gr 26 > > > >We now have 36 members on the MyFamily site who now have access to the >JFMF. > >There are still 139 of you out there who haven't joined yet. I've been > >working in the evenings getting everyone who wishes to join signed up as > >quickly as possible. Remember to write me and agree to the Terms and > >Conditions that I sent you previously and then I can sign you up! Have a > >good evening - I am heading to bed! > > > > > > > >Carmen Johnson > > > >Assistant Research Director - JFMF > > > ><http://www.penningtonresearch.org> www.penningtonresearch.org > > > >PRA Family Group 7 Leader > > > ><http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm> > >http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm > > > > > > > > > > > >"Friends are angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have trouble > >remembering how to fly." > > > >______________________________X-Message: #5 > >Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 10:40:53 EST > >From: [email protected] > >To: [email protected] > >Message-ID: <[email protected]> > >Subject: Re: JFMF & My Family Site > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > >Carmen, > > > >When I go to the Myfamily.com, how do I connect to the Penningtons? I >belong > >to the My family.com with two other family groups and I don't see how I can > >separate from their page and connect to your site. > > > >Thanks. > > > >Ruth Klein > > > >______________________________X-Message: #6 > >Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 10:54:59 -0700 > >From: "Rene'e Davis" <[email protected]> > >To: [email protected] > >Message-ID: <[email protected]> > >Subject: Myfamily website - Grp. 9 > >Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="Windows-1252" > > > >Hi Gang, > > Well, I added the first gedcom to the Grp. 9 Family File on the new > > website. It was surprisingly easy (thanks to Gene and Carmen - for the > > user-friendly applications). The new website is 'just exceptional' !! > > The gedcom consists of our Pennington connection to the Spaid > > (German) and Braithwaite (English) families. The families occupied the > > areas of Hampshire County, WV -1863 (then VA) and Frederick County, VA. > > To my #9 Groupies of our family. Please be patient with me on getting > > all of these files entered. I am sitting (literally) on about 100 pages > > of items to be entered into our family file. My goal is add at least one > > part everyday but that could be too optimistic. > > Thanks for your patience and if you spot errors, please let me know > > and post to our list. > > > >Rene'e Davis, CFO > >ARD, Family Groups > >PRA - Group 9 > >Pennington Research Association, Inc. > >www.penningtonresearch.org > > > >______________________________X-Message: #7 > >Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 12:55:49 EST > >From: [email protected] > >To: [email protected] > >Message-ID: <[email protected]> > >Subject: Re: JFMF & My Family Site > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > >carmen: i agree to the terms and conditions. can't wait to get a look at >the > >jfmf...thanks...andy pennington > > > >______________________________X-Message: #8 > >Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 16:46:36 -0500 > >From: [email protected] > >To: [email protected] > >Message-ID: <[email protected]> > >Subject: John French Master File (JFMF) > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > >Dear Cousins, > >I'd like to say that it is great that PRA is now opening up the JFMF to > >members. I'd like to see the entire file open to all members even if > >they are associated with one particular group. This may be being done, > >but I'm not sure. My main point, tho, is to advise all who read the > >JFMF, that it is an accumulation of files that have been submitted to > >PRA, for various reasons, over the years. To my knowledge, little of it > >is adequately documented and much is simply not proven at all. I am > >concerned that folks will mistake the care that PRA has taken to protect > >the files as evidence the material is proven. Most is not. So it is > >great go-with data. > > > >The JFMF is in the same category as the LDS compilation of submitted > >personal research files, altho LDS does have a separate compilation of > >material that has been abstracted from actual documentation in > >courthouses, etc. Family Tree Maker also publishes a file that is simply > >a compilation of submitted gedcoms as go-with material. Sadly, in those > >cases, some have taken the material as fact when much is not. > > > >I don't want to see a wave of Pennington gedcoms on the internet that use > >the JFMF as evidence or even as proof. It can be quoted as a source, but > >not as proof, unless the submitter included the credible documentation in > >the list of sources, i.e. birth and death certificates (primary sources > >if the informant was close to the decedent), census files (considered > >primary but still full of errors), gravestones (credible if the carving > >was done close to the time of death), Mortuary records (primary if not > >abstracted, secondary if abstracted or otherwise retyped or rewritten), > >etc. > > > >Again, my compliments to PRA for opening up the JFMF. It can be a > >valuable tool in Pennington research. > >I'd like to add that my group when I was a member, Group 32, was full of > >inaccuracies when I last read it. > >At that time, most of 32 was submitted by 3 people, including me. There > >are errors, and an update was badly needed with adequate documentation to > >be provided. My portion was compiled when I had barely started my > >research about 13 years ago. I have learned much more in my subsequent > >research that corrects some of my data. I refused to give my permission > >for PRA to publish my portion of Group 32's material, mainly because of > >the early errors I made. > > > >Good luck to all in your research, > >Barb T > > > >______________________________X-Message: #9 > >Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 18:10:21 -0500 > >From: "Georgia Ellison" <[email protected]> > >To: [email protected] > >Message-ID: <[email protected]> > >Subject: Re: JFMF & My Family Site > >Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="iso-8859-1" > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > >I can't find anything that refers to family trees on the home page of > >www.myfamily.com > >Am I looking in the right place? > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Carmen M. Johnson" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 10:17 PM > >Subject: JFMF & My Family Site > > > > > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > > > Those of you who have contacted me and have been signed up for the My > >Family > > > site - I hope you are enjoying yourself! Those of you who haven't > >contacted > > > me - what are you waiting for??? I thought I would answer a few >questions > > > in general for everyone so you might understand better what is going on. > > > > > > > > > > > > Barbara Pennington and Gene Pennington sent me a spreadsheet of everyone > >who > > > has paid their dues. I filtered out those who had email addresses and > >sent > > > each of those who were up to date a message inviting them to the website > >and > > > asking them to agree to some Terms and Conditions before they were >allowed > > > to join up. So that is how I started. I have gone in and added each > >person > > > who has replied and gave them Guest Rights so they are allowed to browse > >to > > > their heart's content but can't change the data. I am keeping track of > > > those who have contacted me on the same spread sheet! > > > > > > > > > > > > Back to the My Family site - some of you want to know where the JFMF > > > database is. If you go down the page, you will find something that says > > > family trees. Click on All Family Tree's and you will see all of the > > > gedcoms that have been uploaded. To look at one of the gedcoms you >would > > > click on the link and it would open up with a window on top of your > >browser. > > > This is a browser window - if you have a Pop - Up blocker and it is >coming > > > up, try holding your Ctrl key when you click on the link. > > > > > > > > > > > > Most of the gedcoms will show up on your screen as a pedigree. This >isn't > > > really the easiest method to see all of the good stuff. Play around a >bit > > > and look at the toolbar items and menu items. You will probably see > > > something that will show you the gedcom in Family View, Pedigree, or > >Family > > > Story. I prefer Family Story myself - it is much easier to see a bigger > > > picture. > > > > > > > > > > > > Go and check out your line - is everything correct, up to date, etc. Do > >you > > > have data that you can provide? Please make sure you send it to your > >Family > > > Group Leader. You might want to share it on the PRA newslist as well. > > > Remember that this newslist is a wonderful resource. Everything that >gets > > > posted to the newslist is part of the archives. As a member, you can > >search > > > the archives and sometimes find some wonderful information. Please keep > > > looking and exploring. If you find some interesting info, or you want >to > > > share a point of view or idea - post it to the newslist. The DNA >project > >is > > > a wonderful resource and we hope that it will give us a lot of > >information, > > > but it can't take the place of good old fashion research. It has been > > > pointed out that the DNA test does us females little good unless we can > >rope > > > some poor unsuspecting male relative in getting tested. We need to >still > >do > > > the research and share our ideas. > > > > > > > > > > > > Carmen Johnson > > > > > > Assistant Research Director - JFMF > > > > > > www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > > > PRA Family Group 7 Leader > > > > > > http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > > PRA publications are available at the PRA Web Site at > > > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > > > >______________________________X-Message: #10 > >Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 15:19:33 -0800 > >From: "Carmen M. Johnson" <[email protected]> > >To: [email protected]m > >Message-ID: <[email protected]> > >Subject: RE: JFMF & My Family Site > >Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="us-ascii" > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > >Andy, > >I don't have you as a currently subscribed member of the PRA. Either that > >means that you haven't paid your dues or that I don't have a record of it. > >I am cc'ing this message to Barbara Pennington in hopes that she can > >straighten it out! > > > >Carmen > >Assistant Research Director - JFMF > >www.penningtonresearch.org > >PRA Family Group 7 Leader > >http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm > > > > -----Original Message----- > >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > >Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 9:56 AM > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: JFMF & My Family Site > > > >carmen: i agree to the terms and conditions. can't wait to get a look at > >the > >jfmf...thanks...andy pennington > > > > > >==== PRA Mailing List ==== > >==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > >PRA publications are available at the PRA Web Site at > >http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > >______________________________X-Message: #11 > >Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 15:23:28 -0800 > >From: "Carmen M. Johnson" <[email protected]> > >To: [email protected] > >Message-ID: <[email protected]> > >Subject: Message... > >Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="us-ascii" > > > >I'm sorry that I posted the previous message to the list that I wrote to > >Andy Pennington. I was going too fast. However, I feel that it is >probably > >a good idea to tell everyone that I am working off a list of those who are > >current with their dues. If I don't have you on that list then I can't add > >you to the MyFamily site. Those are the rules that I live by. In some > >cases, we have had mistakes show up and in some other cases people have > >forgotten to pay their dues. In either case I refer them to Barbara > >Pennington. > > > > > > > >Once again, sorry for the mistake! > > > > > > > >Carmen > > > >Assistant Research Director - JFMF > > > > <http://www.penningtonresearch.org> www.penningtonresearch.org > > > >PRA Family Group 7 Leader > > > > <http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm> > >http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm > > > > > > > > > > >==== PRA Mailing List ==== >==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== >To learn about the PRA Family Groups, visit the PRA Web Site at >http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > >==== PRA Mailing List ==== >==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== >PRA publications are available at the PRA Web Site at >http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean.

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    1. Re: PRA-D Digest V04 #32
    2. Spaulding
    3. What if you are one of the Penington's who do not have a branch that fits any of the Groups? How are you going to handle this? How will you list the data? And how will people be able to access it? At 04:23 PM 01/31/2004 -0700, you wrote: >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean. > > >PRA-D Digest Volume 04 : Issue 32 > >Today's Topics: > #1 JFMF & My Family Site ["Carmen M. Johnson" > <[email protected]] > #2 Re: JFMF Updates [[email protected]] > #3 Re: JFMF Updates ["PHYLLIS WHEELER" > <[email protected]] > #4 Re: JFMF Updates--Sorry [[email protected]] > #5 Re: JFMF & My Family Site [[email protected]] > #6 Myfamily website - Grp. 9 ["Rene'e Davis" <[email protected]>] > #7 Re: JFMF & My Family Site [[email protected]] > #8 John French Master File (JFMF) [[email protected]] > #9 Re: JFMF & My Family Site ["Georgia Ellison" > <[email protected]] > #10 RE: JFMF & My Family Site ["Carmen M. Johnson" > <[email protected]] > #11 Message... ["Carmen M. Johnson" > <[email protected]] > >Administrivia: >To unsubscribe from PRA-D, send a message to > > [email protected] > >that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > >______________________________X-Message: #1 >Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 19:17:44 -0800 >From: "Carmen M. Johnson" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: JFMF & My Family Site >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="us-ascii" > >Hello Everyone, > >Those of you who have contacted me and have been signed up for the My Family >site - I hope you are enjoying yourself! Those of you who haven't contacted >me - what are you waiting for??? I thought I would answer a few questions >in general for everyone so you might understand better what is going on. > > > >Barbara Pennington and Gene Pennington sent me a spreadsheet of everyone who >has paid their dues. I filtered out those who had email addresses and sent >each of those who were up to date a message inviting them to the website and >asking them to agree to some Terms and Conditions before they were allowed >to join up. So that is how I started. I have gone in and added each person >who has replied and gave them Guest Rights so they are allowed to browse to >their heart's content but can't change the data. I am keeping track of >those who have contacted me on the same spread sheet! > > > >Back to the My Family site - some of you want to know where the JFMF >database is. If you go down the page, you will find something that says >family trees. Click on All Family Tree's and you will see all of the >gedcoms that have been uploaded. To look at one of the gedcoms you would >click on the link and it would open up with a window on top of your browser. >This is a browser window - if you have a Pop - Up blocker and it is coming >up, try holding your Ctrl key when you click on the link. > > > >Most of the gedcoms will show up on your screen as a pedigree. This isn't >really the easiest method to see all of the good stuff. Play around a bit >and look at the toolbar items and menu items. You will probably see >something that will show you the gedcom in Family View, Pedigree, or Family >Story. I prefer Family Story myself - it is much easier to see a bigger >picture. > > > >Go and check out your line - is everything correct, up to date, etc. Do you >have data that you can provide? Please make sure you send it to your Family >Group Leader. You might want to share it on the PRA newslist as well. >Remember that this newslist is a wonderful resource. Everything that gets >posted to the newslist is part of the archives. As a member, you can search >the archives and sometimes find some wonderful information. Please keep >looking and exploring. If you find some interesting info, or you want to >share a point of view or idea - post it to the newslist. The DNA project is >a wonderful resource and we hope that it will give us a lot of information, >but it can't take the place of good old fashion research. It has been >pointed out that the DNA test does us females little good unless we can rope >some poor unsuspecting male relative in getting tested. We need to still do >the research and share our ideas. > > > >Carmen Johnson > >Assistant Research Director - JFMF > >www.penningtonresearch.org > >PRA Family Group 7 Leader > >http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm > > > > > >______________________________X-Message: #2 >Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 15:16:52 EST >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: JFMF Updates >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >In a message dated 1/30/2004 2:25:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, >[email protected] writes: > >We now have 36 members on the MyFamily site who now have access to the JFMF. >There are still 139 of you out there who haven't joined yet. I've been >working in the evenings getting everyone who wishes to join signed up as >quickly as possible. Remember to write me and agree to the Terms and >Conditions that I sent you previously and then I can sign you up! Have a >good evening - I am heading to bed! > > > >Carmen Johnson > >Assistant Research Director - JFMF > ><http://www.penningtonresearch.org> www.penningtonresearch.org > >PRA Family Group 7 Leader > ><http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm> >http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm > > > > > >"Friends are angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have trouble >remembering how to fly." > >______________________________X-Message: #3 >Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 12:46:50 -0800 >From: "PHYLLIS WHEELER" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: JFMF Updates >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > >Carman, >I am confused. I joined PRA last fall and understand my dues covered >until the end of the year. I haven't paid dues yet this year. I didn't >know how much, where to send it, etc. >What is the JFMF? If I pay my dues will I be informed? >I am in Group 8. Does that make a difference? >Enlighten me, please. >Phyllis > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Carmen M. Johnson > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 10:24 PM > Subject: JFMF Updates > > > We now have 36 members on the MyFamily site who now have access to the > JFMF. > There are still 139 of you out there who haven't joined yet. I've been > working in the evenings getting everyone who wishes to join signed up as > quickly as possible. Remember to write me and agree to the Terms and > Conditions that I sent you previously and then I can sign you up! Have a > good evening - I am heading to bed! > > > > Carmen Johnson > > Assistant Research Director - JFMF > > <http://www.penningtonresearch.org> www.penningtonresearch.org > > PRA Family Group 7 Leader > > <http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm> > http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm > > > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > To see our new list of resources, go to http://www.penningtonresearch.org > >______________________________X-Message: #4 >Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 15:25:27 EST >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: JFMF Updates--Sorry >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >Carmen >I'm doubly sorry. One for the email you received before I could write you. >the other to say I can't find a previous email from you. >I hadn't looked in the spam folder the past few days and I would >think that was where it went. I always find some mail in there >that isn't spam, but for some reason they will land in there. >Most definately I want to be a member. I have belonged to a few other list >on MyFamily and have agreed to the terms they have. >Please send or do whatever needs doing. Thanks and again, I'm sorry to have >to bother you so. Lois Tonoff Gr 26 > >We now have 36 members on the MyFamily site who now have access to the JFMF. >There are still 139 of you out there who haven't joined yet. I've been >working in the evenings getting everyone who wishes to join signed up as >quickly as possible. Remember to write me and agree to the Terms and >Conditions that I sent you previously and then I can sign you up! Have a >good evening - I am heading to bed! > > > >Carmen Johnson > >Assistant Research Director - JFMF > ><http://www.penningtonresearch.org> www.penningtonresearch.org > >PRA Family Group 7 Leader > ><http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm> >http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm > > > > > >"Friends are angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have trouble >remembering how to fly." > >______________________________X-Message: #5 >Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 10:40:53 EST >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: JFMF & My Family Site >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >Carmen, > >When I go to the Myfamily.com, how do I connect to the Penningtons? I belong >to the My family.com with two other family groups and I don't see how I can >separate from their page and connect to your site. > >Thanks. > >Ruth Klein > >______________________________X-Message: #6 >Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 10:54:59 -0700 >From: "Rene'e Davis" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Myfamily website - Grp. 9 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="Windows-1252" > >Hi Gang, > Well, I added the first gedcom to the Grp. 9 Family File on the new > website. It was surprisingly easy (thanks to Gene and Carmen - for the > user-friendly applications). The new website is 'just exceptional' !! > The gedcom consists of our Pennington connection to the Spaid > (German) and Braithwaite (English) families. The families occupied the > areas of Hampshire County, WV -1863 (then VA) and Frederick County, VA. > To my #9 Groupies of our family. Please be patient with me on getting > all of these files entered. I am sitting (literally) on about 100 pages > of items to be entered into our family file. My goal is add at least one > part everyday but that could be too optimistic. > Thanks for your patience and if you spot errors, please let me know > and post to our list. > >Rene'e Davis, CFO >ARD, Family Groups >PRA - Group 9 >Pennington Research Association, Inc. >www.penningtonresearch.org > >______________________________X-Message: #7 >Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 12:55:49 EST >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: JFMF & My Family Site >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >carmen: i agree to the terms and conditions. can't wait to get a look at the >jfmf...thanks...andy pennington > >______________________________X-Message: #8 >Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 16:46:36 -0500 >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: John French Master File (JFMF) >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Dear Cousins, >I'd like to say that it is great that PRA is now opening up the JFMF to >members. I'd like to see the entire file open to all members even if >they are associated with one particular group. This may be being done, >but I'm not sure. My main point, tho, is to advise all who read the >JFMF, that it is an accumulation of files that have been submitted to >PRA, for various reasons, over the years. To my knowledge, little of it >is adequately documented and much is simply not proven at all. I am >concerned that folks will mistake the care that PRA has taken to protect >the files as evidence the material is proven. Most is not. So it is >great go-with data. > >The JFMF is in the same category as the LDS compilation of submitted >personal research files, altho LDS does have a separate compilation of >material that has been abstracted from actual documentation in >courthouses, etc. Family Tree Maker also publishes a file that is simply >a compilation of submitted gedcoms as go-with material. Sadly, in those >cases, some have taken the material as fact when much is not. > >I don't want to see a wave of Pennington gedcoms on the internet that use >the JFMF as evidence or even as proof. It can be quoted as a source, but >not as proof, unless the submitter included the credible documentation in >the list of sources, i.e. birth and death certificates (primary sources >if the informant was close to the decedent), census files (considered >primary but still full of errors), gravestones (credible if the carving >was done close to the time of death), Mortuary records (primary if not >abstracted, secondary if abstracted or otherwise retyped or rewritten), >etc. > >Again, my compliments to PRA for opening up the JFMF. It can be a >valuable tool in Pennington research. >I'd like to add that my group when I was a member, Group 32, was full of >inaccuracies when I last read it. >At that time, most of 32 was submitted by 3 people, including me. There >are errors, and an update was badly needed with adequate documentation to >be provided. My portion was compiled when I had barely started my >research about 13 years ago. I have learned much more in my subsequent >research that corrects some of my data. I refused to give my permission >for PRA to publish my portion of Group 32's material, mainly because of >the early errors I made. > >Good luck to all in your research, >Barb T > >______________________________X-Message: #9 >Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 18:10:21 -0500 >From: "Georgia Ellison" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: JFMF & My Family Site >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >I can't find anything that refers to family trees on the home page of >www.myfamily.com >Am I looking in the right place? > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Carmen M. Johnson" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 10:17 PM >Subject: JFMF & My Family Site > > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > Those of you who have contacted me and have been signed up for the My >Family > > site - I hope you are enjoying yourself! Those of you who haven't >contacted > > me - what are you waiting for??? I thought I would answer a few questions > > in general for everyone so you might understand better what is going on. > > > > > > > > Barbara Pennington and Gene Pennington sent me a spreadsheet of everyone >who > > has paid their dues. I filtered out those who had email addresses and >sent > > each of those who were up to date a message inviting them to the website >and > > asking them to agree to some Terms and Conditions before they were allowed > > to join up. So that is how I started. I have gone in and added each >person > > who has replied and gave them Guest Rights so they are allowed to browse >to > > their heart's content but can't change the data. I am keeping track of > > those who have contacted me on the same spread sheet! > > > > > > > > Back to the My Family site - some of you want to know where the JFMF > > database is. If you go down the page, you will find something that says > > family trees. Click on All Family Tree's and you will see all of the > > gedcoms that have been uploaded. To look at one of the gedcoms you would > > click on the link and it would open up with a window on top of your >browser. > > This is a browser window - if you have a Pop - Up blocker and it is coming > > up, try holding your Ctrl key when you click on the link. > > > > > > > > Most of the gedcoms will show up on your screen as a pedigree. This isn't > > really the easiest method to see all of the good stuff. Play around a bit > > and look at the toolbar items and menu items. You will probably see > > something that will show you the gedcom in Family View, Pedigree, or >Family > > Story. I prefer Family Story myself - it is much easier to see a bigger > > picture. > > > > > > > > Go and check out your line - is everything correct, up to date, etc. Do >you > > have data that you can provide? Please make sure you send it to your >Family > > Group Leader. You might want to share it on the PRA newslist as well. > > Remember that this newslist is a wonderful resource. Everything that gets > > posted to the newslist is part of the archives. As a member, you can >search > > the archives and sometimes find some wonderful information. Please keep > > looking and exploring. If you find some interesting info, or you want to > > share a point of view or idea - post it to the newslist. The DNA project >is > > a wonderful resource and we hope that it will give us a lot of >information, > > but it can't take the place of good old fashion research. It has been > > pointed out that the DNA test does us females little good unless we can >rope > > some poor unsuspecting male relative in getting tested. We need to still >do > > the research and share our ideas. > > > > > > > > Carmen Johnson > > > > Assistant Research Director - JFMF > > > > www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > PRA Family Group 7 Leader > > > > http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > PRA publications are available at the PRA Web Site at > > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > >______________________________X-Message: #10 >Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 15:19:33 -0800 >From: "Carmen M. Johnson" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: RE: JFMF & My Family Site >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="us-ascii" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Andy, >I don't have you as a currently subscribed member of the PRA. Either that >means that you haven't paid your dues or that I don't have a record of it. >I am cc'ing this message to Barbara Pennington in hopes that she can >straighten it out! > >Carmen >Assistant Research Director - JFMF >www.penningtonresearch.org >PRA Family Group 7 Leader >http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm > > -----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 9:56 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: JFMF & My Family Site > >carmen: i agree to the terms and conditions. can't wait to get a look at >the >jfmf...thanks...andy pennington > > >==== PRA Mailing List ==== >==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== >PRA publications are available at the PRA Web Site at >http://www.penningtonresearch.org > >______________________________X-Message: #11 >Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 15:23:28 -0800 >From: "Carmen M. Johnson" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Message... >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="us-ascii" > >I'm sorry that I posted the previous message to the list that I wrote to >Andy Pennington. I was going too fast. However, I feel that it is probably >a good idea to tell everyone that I am working off a list of those who are >current with their dues. If I don't have you on that list then I can't add >you to the MyFamily site. Those are the rules that I live by. In some >cases, we have had mistakes show up and in some other cases people have >forgotten to pay their dues. In either case I refer them to Barbara >Pennington. > > > >Once again, sorry for the mistake! > > > >Carmen > >Assistant Research Director - JFMF > > <http://www.penningtonresearch.org> www.penningtonresearch.org > >PRA Family Group 7 Leader > > <http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm> >http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm > > > >

    01/31/2004 02:11:44
    1. Penningtons not in a group...
    2. Carmen M. Johnson
    3. Cheryl and other PRA members , If you do not have a group # for whatever reason - usually because your data is new to the group or whatever, you might think of Gene or I as your Family Group Leader. This isn't something that we have discussed, but if you have changes and they are well documented and sourced, send the info to Gene and he can put it online. This is something that we may need to have some discussion about. I don't know how we have handled the orphaned or unconnected Pennington's in the past. In a perfect world, I could tell you what group you are in. There are members of groups that don't necessarily belong within that group but are closely associated with that group. Gene Pennington is an example of that. He does not descend from Micajah Pennington and Rachel Jones - rather we believe he descends from Micajah's brother, Andrew. This is still theory, but we believe it to be true. There are several members of Group 7 who have the same circumstance. John French who was the research director at the time placed these people within Group 7 - probably because we believe them to descend from Benajah Pennington. The early wills burned in Ashe Co., NC, so we have no real paper proof to prove the relationship between Benajah and probable sons Micajah and Andrew. The fascinating thing about the DNA research is that it is supplying clues that all of these Ashe Co., NC Pennington's may be related much closer than we already know. Having said that, the answer may well be that we need to group some of these unconnected Pennington's into geographic groups. That may be a better way to distinguish who is connected with whom! Carmen Assistant Research Director - JFMF www.penningtonresearch.org PRA Family Group 7 Leader http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm -----Original Message----- From: Spaulding [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 6:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: PRA-D Digest V04 #32 What if you are one of the Penington's who do not have a branch that fits any of the Groups? How are you going to handle this? How will you list the data? And how will people be able to access it? At 04:23 PM 01/31/2004 -0700, you wrote: >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by The CCIS.net MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean. > > >PRA-D Digest Volume 04 : Issue 32 > >Today's Topics: > #1 JFMF & My Family Site ["Carmen M. Johnson" > <[email protected]] > #2 Re: JFMF Updates [[email protected]] > #3 Re: JFMF Updates ["PHYLLIS WHEELER" > <[email protected]] > #4 Re: JFMF Updates--Sorry [[email protected]] > #5 Re: JFMF & My Family Site [[email protected]] > #6 Myfamily website - Grp. 9 ["Rene'e Davis" <[email protected]>] > #7 Re: JFMF & My Family Site [[email protected]] > #8 John French Master File (JFMF) [[email protected]] > #9 Re: JFMF & My Family Site ["Georgia Ellison" > <[email protected]] > #10 RE: JFMF & My Family Site ["Carmen M. Johnson" > <[email protected]] > #11 Message... ["Carmen M. Johnson" > <[email protected]] > >Administrivia: >To unsubscribe from PRA-D, send a message to > > [email protected] > >that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > >______________________________X-Message: #1 >Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 19:17:44 -0800 >From: "Carmen M. Johnson" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: JFMF & My Family Site >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="us-ascii" > >Hello Everyone, > >Those of you who have contacted me and have been signed up for the My Family >site - I hope you are enjoying yourself! Those of you who haven't contacted >me - what are you waiting for??? I thought I would answer a few questions >in general for everyone so you might understand better what is going on. > > > >Barbara Pennington and Gene Pennington sent me a spreadsheet of everyone who >has paid their dues. I filtered out those who had email addresses and sent >each of those who were up to date a message inviting them to the website and >asking them to agree to some Terms and Conditions before they were allowed >to join up. So that is how I started. I have gone in and added each person >who has replied and gave them Guest Rights so they are allowed to browse to >their heart's content but can't change the data. I am keeping track of >those who have contacted me on the same spread sheet! > > > >Back to the My Family site - some of you want to know where the JFMF >database is. If you go down the page, you will find something that says >family trees. Click on All Family Tree's and you will see all of the >gedcoms that have been uploaded. To look at one of the gedcoms you would >click on the link and it would open up with a window on top of your browser. >This is a browser window - if you have a Pop - Up blocker and it is coming >up, try holding your Ctrl key when you click on the link. > > > >Most of the gedcoms will show up on your screen as a pedigree. This isn't >really the easiest method to see all of the good stuff. Play around a bit >and look at the toolbar items and menu items. You will probably see >something that will show you the gedcom in Family View, Pedigree, or Family >Story. I prefer Family Story myself - it is much easier to see a bigger >picture. > > > >Go and check out your line - is everything correct, up to date, etc. Do you >have data that you can provide? Please make sure you send it to your Family >Group Leader. You might want to share it on the PRA newslist as well. >Remember that this newslist is a wonderful resource. Everything that gets >posted to the newslist is part of the archives. As a member, you can search >the archives and sometimes find some wonderful information. Please keep >looking and exploring. If you find some interesting info, or you want to >share a point of view or idea - post it to the newslist. The DNA project is >a wonderful resource and we hope that it will give us a lot of information, >but it can't take the place of good old fashion research. It has been >pointed out that the DNA test does us females little good unless we can rope >some poor unsuspecting male relative in getting tested. We need to still do >the research and share our ideas. > > > >Carmen Johnson > >Assistant Research Director - JFMF > >www.penningtonresearch.org > >PRA Family Group 7 Leader > >http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm > > > > > >______________________________X-Message: #2 >Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 15:16:52 EST >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: JFMF Updates >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >In a message dated 1/30/2004 2:25:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, >[email protected] writes: > >We now have 36 members on the MyFamily site who now have access to the JFMF. >There are still 139 of you out there who haven't joined yet. I've been >working in the evenings getting everyone who wishes to join signed up as >quickly as possible. Remember to write me and agree to the Terms and >Conditions that I sent you previously and then I can sign you up! Have a >good evening - I am heading to bed! > > > >Carmen Johnson > >Assistant Research Director - JFMF > ><http://www.penningtonresearch.org> www.penningtonresearch.org > >PRA Family Group 7 Leader > ><http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm> >http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm > > > > > >"Friends are angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have trouble >remembering how to fly." > >______________________________X-Message: #3 >Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 12:46:50 -0800 >From: "PHYLLIS WHEELER" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: JFMF Updates >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > >Carman, >I am confused. I joined PRA last fall and understand my dues covered >until the end of the year. I haven't paid dues yet this year. I didn't >know how much, where to send it, etc. >What is the JFMF? If I pay my dues will I be informed? >I am in Group 8. Does that make a difference? >Enlighten me, please. >Phyllis > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Carmen M. Johnson > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 10:24 PM > Subject: JFMF Updates > > > We now have 36 members on the MyFamily site who now have access to the > JFMF. > There are still 139 of you out there who haven't joined yet. I've been > working in the evenings getting everyone who wishes to join signed up as > quickly as possible. Remember to write me and agree to the Terms and > Conditions that I sent you previously and then I can sign you up! Have a > good evening - I am heading to bed! > > > > Carmen Johnson > > Assistant Research Director - JFMF > > <http://www.penningtonresearch.org> www.penningtonresearch.org > > PRA Family Group 7 Leader > > <http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm> > http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm > > > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > To see our new list of resources, go to http://www.penningtonresearch.org > >______________________________X-Message: #4 >Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 15:25:27 EST >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: JFMF Updates--Sorry >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >Carmen >I'm doubly sorry. One for the email you received before I could write you. >the other to say I can't find a previous email from you. >I hadn't looked in the spam folder the past few days and I would >think that was where it went. I always find some mail in there >that isn't spam, but for some reason they will land in there. >Most definately I want to be a member. I have belonged to a few other list >on MyFamily and have agreed to the terms they have. >Please send or do whatever needs doing. Thanks and again, I'm sorry to have >to bother you so. Lois Tonoff Gr 26 > >We now have 36 members on the MyFamily site who now have access to the JFMF. >There are still 139 of you out there who haven't joined yet. I've been >working in the evenings getting everyone who wishes to join signed up as >quickly as possible. Remember to write me and agree to the Terms and >Conditions that I sent you previously and then I can sign you up! Have a >good evening - I am heading to bed! > > > >Carmen Johnson > >Assistant Research Director - JFMF > ><http://www.penningtonresearch.org> www.penningtonresearch.org > >PRA Family Group 7 Leader > ><http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm> >http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm > > > > > >"Friends are angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have trouble >remembering how to fly." > >______________________________X-Message: #5 >Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 10:40:53 EST >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: JFMF & My Family Site >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >Carmen, > >When I go to the Myfamily.com, how do I connect to the Penningtons? I belong >to the My family.com with two other family groups and I don't see how I can >separate from their page and connect to your site. > >Thanks. > >Ruth Klein > >______________________________X-Message: #6 >Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 10:54:59 -0700 >From: "Rene'e Davis" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Myfamily website - Grp. 9 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="Windows-1252" > >Hi Gang, > Well, I added the first gedcom to the Grp. 9 Family File on the new > website. It was surprisingly easy (thanks to Gene and Carmen - for the > user-friendly applications). The new website is 'just exceptional' !! > The gedcom consists of our Pennington connection to the Spaid > (German) and Braithwaite (English) families. The families occupied the > areas of Hampshire County, WV -1863 (then VA) and Frederick County, VA. > To my #9 Groupies of our family. Please be patient with me on getting > all of these files entered. I am sitting (literally) on about 100 pages > of items to be entered into our family file. My goal is add at least one > part everyday but that could be too optimistic. > Thanks for your patience and if you spot errors, please let me know > and post to our list. > >Rene'e Davis, CFO >ARD, Family Groups >PRA - Group 9 >Pennington Research Association, Inc. >www.penningtonresearch.org > >______________________________X-Message: #7 >Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 12:55:49 EST >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: JFMF & My Family Site >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >carmen: i agree to the terms and conditions. can't wait to get a look at the >jfmf...thanks...andy pennington > >______________________________X-Message: #8 >Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 16:46:36 -0500 >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: John French Master File (JFMF) >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Dear Cousins, >I'd like to say that it is great that PRA is now opening up the JFMF to >members. I'd like to see the entire file open to all members even if >they are associated with one particular group. This may be being done, >but I'm not sure. My main point, tho, is to advise all who read the >JFMF, that it is an accumulation of files that have been submitted to >PRA, for various reasons, over the years. To my knowledge, little of it >is adequately documented and much is simply not proven at all. I am >concerned that folks will mistake the care that PRA has taken to protect >the files as evidence the material is proven. Most is not. So it is >great go-with data. > >The JFMF is in the same category as the LDS compilation of submitted >personal research files, altho LDS does have a separate compilation of >material that has been abstracted from actual documentation in >courthouses, etc. Family Tree Maker also publishes a file that is simply >a compilation of submitted gedcoms as go-with material. Sadly, in those >cases, some have taken the material as fact when much is not. > >I don't want to see a wave of Pennington gedcoms on the internet that use >the JFMF as evidence or even as proof. It can be quoted as a source, but >not as proof, unless the submitter included the credible documentation in >the list of sources, i.e. birth and death certificates (primary sources >if the informant was close to the decedent), census files (considered >primary but still full of errors), gravestones (credible if the carving >was done close to the time of death), Mortuary records (primary if not >abstracted, secondary if abstracted or otherwise retyped or rewritten), >etc. > >Again, my compliments to PRA for opening up the JFMF. It can be a >valuable tool in Pennington research. >I'd like to add that my group when I was a member, Group 32, was full of >inaccuracies when I last read it. >At that time, most of 32 was submitted by 3 people, including me. There >are errors, and an update was badly needed with adequate documentation to >be provided. My portion was compiled when I had barely started my >research about 13 years ago. I have learned much more in my subsequent >research that corrects some of my data. I refused to give my permission >for PRA to publish my portion of Group 32's material, mainly because of >the early errors I made. > >Good luck to all in your research, >Barb T > >______________________________X-Message: #9 >Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 18:10:21 -0500 >From: "Georgia Ellison" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: JFMF & My Family Site >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >I can't find anything that refers to family trees on the home page of >www.myfamily.com >Am I looking in the right place? > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Carmen M. Johnson" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 10:17 PM >Subject: JFMF & My Family Site > > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > Those of you who have contacted me and have been signed up for the My >Family > > site - I hope you are enjoying yourself! Those of you who haven't >contacted > > me - what are you waiting for??? I thought I would answer a few questions > > in general for everyone so you might understand better what is going on. > > > > > > > > Barbara Pennington and Gene Pennington sent me a spreadsheet of everyone >who > > has paid their dues. I filtered out those who had email addresses and >sent > > each of those who were up to date a message inviting them to the website >and > > asking them to agree to some Terms and Conditions before they were allowed > > to join up. So that is how I started. I have gone in and added each >person > > who has replied and gave them Guest Rights so they are allowed to browse >to > > their heart's content but can't change the data. I am keeping track of > > those who have contacted me on the same spread sheet! > > > > > > > > Back to the My Family site - some of you want to know where the JFMF > > database is. If you go down the page, you will find something that says > > family trees. Click on All Family Tree's and you will see all of the > > gedcoms that have been uploaded. To look at one of the gedcoms you would > > click on the link and it would open up with a window on top of your >browser. > > This is a browser window - if you have a Pop - Up blocker and it is coming > > up, try holding your Ctrl key when you click on the link. > > > > > > > > Most of the gedcoms will show up on your screen as a pedigree. This isn't > > really the easiest method to see all of the good stuff. Play around a bit > > and look at the toolbar items and menu items. You will probably see > > something that will show you the gedcom in Family View, Pedigree, or >Family > > Story. I prefer Family Story myself - it is much easier to see a bigger > > picture. > > > > > > > > Go and check out your line - is everything correct, up to date, etc. Do >you > > have data that you can provide? Please make sure you send it to your >Family > > Group Leader. You might want to share it on the PRA newslist as well. > > Remember that this newslist is a wonderful resource. Everything that gets > > posted to the newslist is part of the archives. As a member, you can >search > > the archives and sometimes find some wonderful information. Please keep > > looking and exploring. If you find some interesting info, or you want to > > share a point of view or idea - post it to the newslist. The DNA project >is > > a wonderful resource and we hope that it will give us a lot of >information, > > but it can't take the place of good old fashion research. It has been > > pointed out that the DNA test does us females little good unless we can >rope > > some poor unsuspecting male relative in getting tested. We need to still >do > > the research and share our ideas. > > > > > > > > Carmen Johnson > > > > Assistant Research Director - JFMF > > > > www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > PRA Family Group 7 Leader > > > > http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > > PRA publications are available at the PRA Web Site at > > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > > >______________________________X-Message: #10 >Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 15:19:33 -0800 >From: "Carmen M. Johnson" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: RE: JFMF & My Family Site >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="us-ascii" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Andy, >I don't have you as a currently subscribed member of the PRA. Either that >means that you haven't paid your dues or that I don't have a record of it. >I am cc'ing this message to Barbara Pennington in hopes that she can >straighten it out! > >Carmen >Assistant Research Director - JFMF >www.penningtonresearch.org >PRA Family Group 7 Leader >http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm > > -----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 9:56 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: JFMF & My Family Site > >carmen: i agree to the terms and conditions. can't wait to get a look at >the >jfmf...thanks...andy pennington > > >==== PRA Mailing List ==== >==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== >PRA publications are available at the PRA Web Site at >http://www.penningtonresearch.org > >______________________________X-Message: #11 >Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 15:23:28 -0800 >From: "Carmen M. Johnson" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Message... >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="us-ascii" > >I'm sorry that I posted the previous message to the list that I wrote to >Andy Pennington. I was going too fast. However, I feel that it is probably >a good idea to tell everyone that I am working off a list of those who are >current with their dues. If I don't have you on that list then I can't add >you to the MyFamily site. Those are the rules that I live by. In some >cases, we have had mistakes show up and in some other cases people have >forgotten to pay their dues. In either case I refer them to Barbara >Pennington. > > > >Once again, sorry for the mistake! > > > >Carmen > >Assistant Research Director - JFMF > > <http://www.penningtonresearch.org> www.penningtonresearch.org > >PRA Family Group 7 Leader > > <http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm> >http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== To learn about the PRA Family Groups, visit the PRA Web Site at http://www.penningtonresearch.org

    01/31/2004 11:22:05
    1. Re: JFMF & My Family Site
    2. Georgia Ellison
    3. I can't find anything that refers to family trees on the home page of www.myfamily.com Am I looking in the right place? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carmen M. Johnson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 10:17 PM Subject: JFMF & My Family Site > Hello Everyone, > > Those of you who have contacted me and have been signed up for the My Family > site - I hope you are enjoying yourself! Those of you who haven't contacted > me - what are you waiting for??? I thought I would answer a few questions > in general for everyone so you might understand better what is going on. > > > > Barbara Pennington and Gene Pennington sent me a spreadsheet of everyone who > has paid their dues. I filtered out those who had email addresses and sent > each of those who were up to date a message inviting them to the website and > asking them to agree to some Terms and Conditions before they were allowed > to join up. So that is how I started. I have gone in and added each person > who has replied and gave them Guest Rights so they are allowed to browse to > their heart's content but can't change the data. I am keeping track of > those who have contacted me on the same spread sheet! > > > > Back to the My Family site - some of you want to know where the JFMF > database is. If you go down the page, you will find something that says > family trees. Click on All Family Tree's and you will see all of the > gedcoms that have been uploaded. To look at one of the gedcoms you would > click on the link and it would open up with a window on top of your browser. > This is a browser window - if you have a Pop - Up blocker and it is coming > up, try holding your Ctrl key when you click on the link. > > > > Most of the gedcoms will show up on your screen as a pedigree. This isn't > really the easiest method to see all of the good stuff. Play around a bit > and look at the toolbar items and menu items. You will probably see > something that will show you the gedcom in Family View, Pedigree, or Family > Story. I prefer Family Story myself - it is much easier to see a bigger > picture. > > > > Go and check out your line - is everything correct, up to date, etc. Do you > have data that you can provide? Please make sure you send it to your Family > Group Leader. You might want to share it on the PRA newslist as well. > Remember that this newslist is a wonderful resource. Everything that gets > posted to the newslist is part of the archives. As a member, you can search > the archives and sometimes find some wonderful information. Please keep > looking and exploring. If you find some interesting info, or you want to > share a point of view or idea - post it to the newslist. The DNA project is > a wonderful resource and we hope that it will give us a lot of information, > but it can't take the place of good old fashion research. It has been > pointed out that the DNA test does us females little good unless we can rope > some poor unsuspecting male relative in getting tested. We need to still do > the research and share our ideas. > > > > Carmen Johnson > > Assistant Research Director - JFMF > > www.penningtonresearch.org > > PRA Family Group 7 Leader > > http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm > > > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > PRA publications are available at the PRA Web Site at > http://www.penningtonresearch.org >

    01/31/2004 11:10:21
    1. My Family Update
    2. Carmen M. Johnson
    3. Hello everyone, As of right now, we have 58 members signed up for the My Family site. By my count, we still have 118 who have yet to sign up. If you have contacted me and I haven't gotten back to you or signed up - please let me know. I receive a fairly large volume of email during the day and could have missed it. I will be busy watching the game tomorrow.so if you want me to get you signed up - better send it to me before game time or it will have to wait until later :-) Carmen Assistant Research Director - JFMF www.penningtonresearch.org PRA Family Group 7 Leader http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm

    01/31/2004 11:09:09
    1. John French Master File (JFMF)
    2. Dear Cousins, I'd like to say that it is great that PRA is now opening up the JFMF to members. I'd like to see the entire file open to all members even if they are associated with one particular group. This may be being done, but I'm not sure. My main point, tho, is to advise all who read the JFMF, that it is an accumulation of files that have been submitted to PRA, for various reasons, over the years. To my knowledge, little of it is adequately documented and much is simply not proven at all. I am concerned that folks will mistake the care that PRA has taken to protect the files as evidence the material is proven. Most is not. So it is great go-with data. The JFMF is in the same category as the LDS compilation of submitted personal research files, altho LDS does have a separate compilation of material that has been abstracted from actual documentation in courthouses, etc. Family Tree Maker also publishes a file that is simply a compilation of submitted gedcoms as go-with material. Sadly, in those cases, some have taken the material as fact when much is not. I don't want to see a wave of Pennington gedcoms on the internet that use the JFMF as evidence or even as proof. It can be quoted as a source, but not as proof, unless the submitter included the credible documentation in the list of sources, i.e. birth and death certificates (primary sources if the informant was close to the decedent), census files (considered primary but still full of errors), gravestones (credible if the carving was done close to the time of death), Mortuary records (primary if not abstracted, secondary if abstracted or otherwise retyped or rewritten), etc. Again, my compliments to PRA for opening up the JFMF. It can be a valuable tool in Pennington research. I'd like to add that my group when I was a member, Group 32, was full of inaccuracies when I last read it. At that time, most of 32 was submitted by 3 people, including me. There are errors, and an update was badly needed with adequate documentation to be provided. My portion was compiled when I had barely started my research about 13 years ago. I have learned much more in my subsequent research that corrects some of my data. I refused to give my permission for PRA to publish my portion of Group 32's material, mainly because of the early errors I made. Good luck to all in your research, Barb T

    01/31/2004 09:46:36
    1. RE: JFMF & My Family Site
    2. Carmen M. Johnson
    3. Georgia and everyone else, If you are having problems finding info - remember that the first page is going have the copyright info, the PRA seal, and several other categories running down the page. The main categories that you have to keep track of will be News, Photos, and Online Family Trees. Most of the new information and most interesting information will be in these areas. The JFMF files and gedcoms are in the Online Family Trees. If you haven't used these sites before - spend some time wandering around. Remember that it will take a little bit to learn where things are and the fastest way to get where you want. Everyone will have a bit of a learning curve - including myself! So be patient and let me know when you have problems and I will try to help as best I can! Carmen Assistant Research Director - JFMF www.penningtonresearch.org PRA Family Group 7 Leader http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm -----Original Message----- From: Georgia Ellison [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 3:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: JFMF & My Family Site I can't find anything that refers to family trees on the home page of www.myfamily.com Am I looking in the right place? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carmen M. Johnson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 10:17 PM Subject: JFMF & My Family Site > Hello Everyone, > > Those of you who have contacted me and have been signed up for the My Family > site - I hope you are enjoying yourself! Those of you who haven't contacted > me - what are you waiting for??? I thought I would answer a few questions > in general for everyone so you might understand better what is going on. > > > > Barbara Pennington and Gene Pennington sent me a spreadsheet of everyone who > has paid their dues. I filtered out those who had email addresses and sent > each of those who were up to date a message inviting them to the website and > asking them to agree to some Terms and Conditions before they were allowed > to join up. So that is how I started. I have gone in and added each person > who has replied and gave them Guest Rights so they are allowed to browse to > their heart's content but can't change the data. I am keeping track of > those who have contacted me on the same spread sheet! > > > > Back to the My Family site - some of you want to know where the JFMF > database is. If you go down the page, you will find something that says > family trees. Click on All Family Tree's and you will see all of the > gedcoms that have been uploaded. To look at one of the gedcoms you would > click on the link and it would open up with a window on top of your browser. > This is a browser window - if you have a Pop - Up blocker and it is coming > up, try holding your Ctrl key when you click on the link. > > > > Most of the gedcoms will show up on your screen as a pedigree. This isn't > really the easiest method to see all of the good stuff. Play around a bit > and look at the toolbar items and menu items. You will probably see > something that will show you the gedcom in Family View, Pedigree, or Family > Story. I prefer Family Story myself - it is much easier to see a bigger > picture. > > > > Go and check out your line - is everything correct, up to date, etc. Do you > have data that you can provide? Please make sure you send it to your Family > Group Leader. You might want to share it on the PRA newslist as well. > Remember that this newslist is a wonderful resource. Everything that gets > posted to the newslist is part of the archives. As a member, you can search > the archives and sometimes find some wonderful information. Please keep > looking and exploring. If you find some interesting info, or you want to > share a point of view or idea - post it to the newslist. The DNA project is > a wonderful resource and we hope that it will give us a lot of information, > but it can't take the place of good old fashion research. It has been > pointed out that the DNA test does us females little good unless we can rope > some poor unsuspecting male relative in getting tested. We need to still do > the research and share our ideas. > > > > Carmen Johnson > > Assistant Research Director - JFMF > > www.penningtonresearch.org > > PRA Family Group 7 Leader > > http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm > > > > > > > > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== > ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== > PRA publications are available at the PRA Web Site at > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > ==== PRA Mailing List ==== ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== To learn about the PRA Family Groups, visit the PRA Web Site at http://www.penningtonresearch.org

    01/31/2004 09:09:48
    1. Message...
    2. Carmen M. Johnson
    3. I'm sorry that I posted the previous message to the list that I wrote to Andy Pennington. I was going too fast. However, I feel that it is probably a good idea to tell everyone that I am working off a list of those who are current with their dues. If I don't have you on that list then I can't add you to the MyFamily site. Those are the rules that I live by. In some cases, we have had mistakes show up and in some other cases people have forgotten to pay their dues. In either case I refer them to Barbara Pennington. Once again, sorry for the mistake! Carmen Assistant Research Director - JFMF <http://www.penningtonresearch.org> www.penningtonresearch.org PRA Family Group 7 Leader <http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm> http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm

    01/31/2004 08:23:28
    1. RE: JFMF & My Family Site
    2. Carmen M. Johnson
    3. Andy, I don't have you as a currently subscribed member of the PRA. Either that means that you haven't paid your dues or that I don't have a record of it. I am cc'ing this message to Barbara Pennington in hopes that she can straighten it out! Carmen Assistant Research Director - JFMF www.penningtonresearch.org PRA Family Group 7 Leader http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 9:56 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: JFMF & My Family Site carmen: i agree to the terms and conditions. can't wait to get a look at the jfmf...thanks...andy pennington ==== PRA Mailing List ==== ==== PENNINGTON RESEARCH ASSOCIATION ==== PRA publications are available at the PRA Web Site at http://www.penningtonresearch.org

    01/31/2004 08:19:33
    1. Re: JFMF & My Family Site
    2. carmen: i agree to the terms and conditions. can't wait to get a look at the jfmf...thanks...andy pennington

    01/31/2004 05:55:49
    1. Myfamily website - Grp. 9
    2. Rene'e Davis
    3. Hi Gang, Well, I added the first gedcom to the Grp. 9 Family File on the new website. It was surprisingly easy (thanks to Gene and Carmen - for the user-friendly applications). The new website is 'just exceptional' !! The gedcom consists of our Pennington connection to the Spaid (German) and Braithwaite (English) families. The families occupied the areas of Hampshire County, WV -1863 (then VA) and Frederick County, VA. To my #9 Groupies of our family. Please be patient with me on getting all of these files entered. I am sitting (literally) on about 100 pages of items to be entered into our family file. My goal is add at least one part everyday but that could be too optimistic. Thanks for your patience and if you spot errors, please let me know and post to our list. Rene'e Davis, CFO ARD, Family Groups PRA - Group 9 Pennington Research Association, Inc. www.penningtonresearch.org

    01/31/2004 03:54:59