forwarding -----Forwarded Message----- >From: Noelle Van Pulis <van-pulis.1@osu.edu> >Sent: Nov 26, 2006 9:43 AM >To: pennington@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PENNINGTON] Bessie (Celnar) Pennington - obituary (Ohio) > >I have no connection, just happened to see this in the Columbus >(Ohio) Dispatch. --Noelle in Powell, Ohio > >PENNINGTON Bessie (Celnar) Pennington, 90, of Duncan Falls, passed >away at 4:20 p.m. on Friday, November 24, 2006, at Genesis Hospice - >Morrison House. Bessie was born in Summerfield, Ohio, September 6, >1916, The daughter of the late Hayes and Willia (Snyder) Sutherland. >Bessie was retired from Rockwell International and Lifecare Alliance. >She was an avid collector of antique glassware and enjoyed flea >markets and sales. She was a member of Cornerstone Full Gospel Church >in Duncan Falls. She is survived by her son, Philip and Frances >Celnar of Columbus; 1 daughter, Blaine and Sylvia Stutes of Duncan >Falls; grandchildren, Timothy (Teresa) Stutes, Susan (Kevin) Yurich, >Kimberlee (William) Smith, Scot (Robin) Stutes and Jana (Don) Bell; >12 great-grandchildren; 5 great-great grandchildren; many nieces, >nephews, cousins and friends. In addition to her parents she was >preceded in death by her husband Dorsie Pennington, 3 brothers Kermit >Sutherland, Elvin Sutherland and Chester Sutherland, 2 sisters >Margaret Newman and Emma Faye Neigbarger. Visitations will be from 11 >a.m.-1 p.m. Monday at the THOMPSON-FARUS FUNERAL HOME, 383 Main >Street, Duncan Falls, where Funeral Services will be held at 1 p.m. >with Pastor Steve Smith officiating, Burial will follow in Duncan >Falls Cemetery. To send condolences online: ><http://www.legacy.com/dispatch/http://www.thompsonfarusfuneralhome.com>www.thompsonfarusfuneralhome.com >Please make memorial contributions to the Cornerstone Full Gospel >Church, 4509 Salt Creek Drive, Duncan Falls, OH, 43734. > >Published in The Columbus Dispatch on 11/26/2006. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PENNINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I requested a Josias Pennington's War of 1812 (5th Regt. "Stereh's" Maryland Milita) from Wash D.C. for a PRA member but received the military record for the other Josias Pennington of the same area (Baltimore Co., Maryland) that served in Capt. David Warfields Co. of the 5th Reg't MD Milita and Capt. Wm Cooke, Jrs Co. of Indantry, 5th Regt. MD Mil. instead. Is anyone interested in scan's of these documents? There are four cards copied onto one legal size page of paper. I can probably scan in two documents. No pension records here. Bob Lykins is looking for more information on the Josias Pennington who eventually migrated to Clark Co., OH by 1840 and Randolph Co., IN by 1850. Bob is not sure which group he belongs with yet but we suspect it might be group 24. I guess its even possible he could be from Group 3 as one of their branches were also in the Baltimore Co., MD area. But the Group 24 has many men named Josias in their family history so I'm thinking he is from this group. -- Melinda Pennington Membership Chair ARD-Family Groups Family 6 Group Leader

I think the following line seems very plausible, don't know how to absolutely prove it however. Timothy Pennington died Mendham, Morris NJ Nov/Feb 1749/1750 son Capt. Ephraim Pennington born Mendham, Morris NJ abt 1740 died Jan/Feb 1815 York PA son Timothy born 1759 married Mary Fullen in Rockbridge went to Lincoln KY son Ephraim born 1785 Abraham and Issac of Frederick are in FG 8 - I should have looked first Mandy -----Original Message----- From: pra-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pra-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Daniel Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 1:48 PM To: pra@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PRA] FG 1, FG 20 - Penningtons on the way to NC ? The JFMF has two Ephraim Pennington's that may match the Captain Ephraim Pennington in York County, PA. The first one is listed as born 09 Apr 1738 in Cecil County, MD. The notes on him list an Ephraim on the 1800 York County, PA Census: 2 males 1774/84 and 1 female 1774/84. This apparently is two different Ephraim's. It's worth noting that the Ephraim born in 1738 was the son of Henry Pennington and Anna Johnson of Cecil County, MD. They also had sons named Isaac and Abraham. Abraham died in 1772 in Cecil County, MD. The other Ephraim Pennington is listed in the JFMF as born abt 1740 and died abt 1816. He married a McAllister and had a son named Timothy born in November 1759. Ephraim's wife died while giving birth to Timothy or shortly thereafter. Timothy married Mary Fullen? of Rockbridge County, VA on 10 Nov 1785 (I believe this date to be in error as it is the birth date of Tim's son Ephraim-perhaps it should read 23 Feb 1785). They later moved to Lincoln County, KY where Timothy died in 1801. His widow remarried and moved to MO. Timothy and Mary had seven children, one being another Ephraim Pennington who is listed in Lincoln County records for some time. He (Ephraim) had a son named Timothy Morgan Pennington. Daniel Pennington (group 30) Sales Manager Family Group Leader: 12 & 22 Pennington Research Association, Inc. www.PenningtonResearch.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colgan, Mandy" <MColgan@ecfs.org> To: <pra@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 10:25 AM Subject: [PRA] FG 1, FG 20 - Penningtons on the way to NC ? > > I decided to retackle the problem of connection FG 1/FG 20 and the North > Carolina Penningtons. I am working my way through the counties that ran > along the great wagon road from Philadelphia down through the Great Valley > of Virginia. I found a few Penningtons that I am putting forward for > perusal, if anyone recognizes them or has already gone over them please > let > me know. I am sure there are other things out there, these are just my > first stab. Let me know what you think. > > Mandy Colgan FG 20 > > First: > In York Co. PA there is an Capt. Ephraim Pennington 1st Battalion York Co. > Milita Rev. War. His children were baptized at Christ Evangelical > Lutheran > Church in York, the only church there for a while and then the main church > in the county. I have postulated him as Ephraim the son of Timothy of > Mendham NJ. He is the right age and doesn't seem to be connected anywhere > else. > > York County Will Abstracts 1749-1819 > > Pennington, Ephraim. York Borough. > January 26, 1815 February 1, 1815 > Executor: George Haller. > Wife: Lydia Pennington. > Children: Timothy, Mary m. John Stoner, Elizabeth m. Joseph Wampler, > Susanna m. George Haller, and Lydia m. Robert Hay > > > Second: > Abraham and Issac Pennington of Old Frederick Co. VA. Old Frederick Co. > represents or includes 12 present-day counties, 7 of which are now in West > Virginia. They are to the west of the Great Wagon Road and north of Old > Augusta Co. VA. This Abraham and Issac are of an age where they could be > brothers to Timothy of Mendham NJ - they both received land grants in the > 1730's which is the same time that Timothy is having children in NJ. > Issac > appears in the tax rolls in 1759. > > Isaac and John Vanmetre Land Grant assignees, 1730/1734, Frederick Co., VA > USGenWeb > > Land Grant from William Gooch, Lieutenant Governour and Commander in > Chief of Virginia Colony, to Isaac and John Vanmetre dated 17 June > 1730. Assignees of 42,289 acres in 1734 to: > > 3 October 1734 > Isaac Pennington, 500 acres. > Abraham Pennington, 600 acres > > Virginia Census, 1800-90 [database on-line]. Ancestry.com > > Issac Penington Virginia Frederick Rent Rolls 1759 > > > Third: > There is a Timothy Pennington who married in Rockbridge Co. VA just a > touch > farther south on the Wagon Road. I have not yet found him elsewhere but > will continue to look. A possible son of either Abraham or Issac of > Frederick Co. VA? Named after his grandfather? > > Virginia Marriages to 1800 [database on-line]. Ancestry.com > > Timothy Pennington, Mary Fulton, 23 Feb 1785 Rockbridge Virginia > > > > > *************************************** > Please note NEW address to post to the list: PRA@rootsweb.com > ************************************** > For more information about the PRA including our DNA Study, visit us at > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > ************************************** > Learn what's new at the PRA by going to http://www.penningtonresearch.org > and click on the "News" link on the left side of the page. > ************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message *************************************** Please note NEW address to post to the list: PRA@rootsweb.com ************************************** For more information about the PRA including our DNA Study, visit us at http://www.penningtonresearch.org ************************************** Learn what's new at the PRA by going to http://www.penningtonresearch.org and click on the "News" link on the left side of the page. ************************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The JFMF has two Ephraim Pennington's that may match the Captain Ephraim Pennington in York County, PA. The first one is listed as born 09 Apr 1738 in Cecil County, MD. The notes on him list an Ephraim on the 1800 York County, PA Census: 2 males 1774/84 and 1 female 1774/84. This apparently is two different Ephraim's. It's worth noting that the Ephraim born in 1738 was the son of Henry Pennington and Anna Johnson of Cecil County, MD. They also had sons named Isaac and Abraham. Abraham died in 1772 in Cecil County, MD. The other Ephraim Pennington is listed in the JFMF as born abt 1740 and died abt 1816. He married a McAllister and had a son named Timothy born in November 1759. Ephraim's wife died while giving birth to Timothy or shortly thereafter. Timothy married Mary Fullen? of Rockbridge County, VA on 10 Nov 1785 (I believe this date to be in error as it is the birth date of Tim's son Ephraim-perhaps it should read 23 Feb 1785). They later moved to Lincoln County, KY where Timothy died in 1801. His widow remarried and moved to MO. Timothy and Mary had seven children, one being another Ephraim Pennington who is listed in Lincoln County records for some time. He (Ephraim) had a son named Timothy Morgan Pennington. Daniel Pennington (group 30) Sales Manager Family Group Leader: 12 & 22 Pennington Research Association, Inc. www.PenningtonResearch.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colgan, Mandy" <MColgan@ecfs.org> To: <pra@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 10:25 AM Subject: [PRA] FG 1, FG 20 - Penningtons on the way to NC ? > > I decided to retackle the problem of connection FG 1/FG 20 and the North > Carolina Penningtons. I am working my way through the counties that ran > along the great wagon road from Philadelphia down through the Great Valley > of Virginia. I found a few Penningtons that I am putting forward for > perusal, if anyone recognizes them or has already gone over them please > let > me know. I am sure there are other things out there, these are just my > first stab. Let me know what you think. > > Mandy Colgan FG 20 > > First: > In York Co. PA there is an Capt. Ephraim Pennington 1st Battalion York Co. > Milita Rev. War. His children were baptized at Christ Evangelical > Lutheran > Church in York, the only church there for a while and then the main church > in the county. I have postulated him as Ephraim the son of Timothy of > Mendham NJ. He is the right age and doesn't seem to be connected anywhere > else. > > York County Will Abstracts 1749-1819 > > Pennington, Ephraim. York Borough. > January 26, 1815 February 1, 1815 > Executor: George Haller. > Wife: Lydia Pennington. > Children: Timothy, Mary m. John Stoner, Elizabeth m. Joseph Wampler, > Susanna m. George Haller, and Lydia m. Robert Hay > > > Second: > Abraham and Issac Pennington of Old Frederick Co. VA. Old Frederick Co. > represents or includes 12 present-day counties, 7 of which are now in West > Virginia. They are to the west of the Great Wagon Road and north of Old > Augusta Co. VA. This Abraham and Issac are of an age where they could be > brothers to Timothy of Mendham NJ - they both received land grants in the > 1730's which is the same time that Timothy is having children in NJ. > Issac > appears in the tax rolls in 1759. > > Isaac and John Vanmetre Land Grant assignees, 1730/1734, Frederick Co., VA > USGenWeb > > Land Grant from William Gooch, Lieutenant Governour and Commander in > Chief of Virginia Colony, to Isaac and John Vanmetre dated 17 June > 1730. Assignees of 42,289 acres in 1734 to: > > 3 October 1734 > Isaac Pennington, 500 acres. > Abraham Pennington, 600 acres > > Virginia Census, 1800-90 [database on-line]. Ancestry.com > > Issac Penington Virginia Frederick Rent Rolls 1759 > > > Third: > There is a Timothy Pennington who married in Rockbridge Co. VA just a > touch > farther south on the Wagon Road. I have not yet found him elsewhere but > will continue to look. A possible son of either Abraham or Issac of > Frederick Co. VA? Named after his grandfather? > > Virginia Marriages to 1800 [database on-line]. Ancestry.com > > Timothy Pennington, Mary Fulton, 23 Feb 1785 Rockbridge Virginia > > > > > *************************************** > Please note NEW address to post to the list: PRA@rootsweb.com > ************************************** > For more information about the PRA including our DNA Study, visit us at > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > ************************************** > Learn what's new at the PRA by going to http://www.penningtonresearch.org > and click on the "News" link on the left side of the page. > ************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Nice theory and wonderful work. Keep it up! Just so you know, Group 6 cannot claim any of these guys. I wish we could. --Melinda Pennington On 11/29/06, Colgan, Mandy <MColgan@ecfs.org> wrote: > > > I decided to retackle the problem of connection FG 1/FG 20 and the North > Carolina Penningtons. I am working my way through the counties that ran > along the great wagon road from Philadelphia down through the Great Valley > of Virginia. I found a few Penningtons that I am putting forward for > perusal, if anyone recognizes them or has already gone over them please > let > me know. I am sure there are other things out there, these are just my > first stab. Let me know what you think. > > Mandy Colgan FG 20 > > First: > In York Co. PA there is an Capt. Ephraim Pennington 1st Battalion York Co. > Milita Rev. War. His children were baptized at Christ Evangelical > Lutheran > Church in York, the only church there for a while and then the main church > in the county. I have postulated him as Ephraim the son of Timothy of > Mendham NJ. He is the right age and doesn't seem to be connected anywhere > else. > > York County Will Abstracts 1749-1819 > > Pennington, Ephraim. York Borough. > January 26, 1815 February 1, 1815 > Executor: George Haller. > Wife: Lydia Pennington. > Children: Timothy, Mary m. John Stoner, Elizabeth m. Joseph Wampler, > Susanna m. George Haller, and Lydia m. Robert Hay > > > Second: > Abraham and Issac Pennington of Old Frederick Co. VA. Old Frederick Co. > represents or includes 12 present-day counties, 7 of which are now in West > Virginia. They are to the west of the Great Wagon Road and north of Old > Augusta Co. VA. This Abraham and Issac are of an age where they could be > brothers to Timothy of Mendham NJ - they both received land grants in the > 1730's which is the same time that Timothy is having children in > NJ. Issac > appears in the tax rolls in 1759. > > Isaac and John Vanmetre Land Grant assignees, 1730/1734, Frederick Co., VA > USGenWeb > > Land Grant from William Gooch, Lieutenant Governour and Commander in > Chief of Virginia Colony, to Isaac and John Vanmetre dated 17 June > 1730. Assignees of 42,289 acres in 1734 to: > > 3 October 1734 > Isaac Pennington, 500 acres. > Abraham Pennington, 600 acres > > Virginia Census, 1800-90 [database on-line]. Ancestry.com > > Issac Penington Virginia Frederick Rent Rolls 1759 > > > Third: > There is a Timothy Pennington who married in Rockbridge Co. VA just a > touch > farther south on the Wagon Road. I have not yet found him elsewhere but > will continue to look. A possible son of either Abraham or Issac of > Frederick Co. VA? Named after his grandfather? > > Virginia Marriages to 1800 [database on-line]. Ancestry.com > > Timothy Pennington, Mary Fulton, 23 Feb 1785 Rockbridge Virginia > > > > > *************************************** > Please note NEW address to post to the list: PRA@rootsweb.com > ************************************** > For more information about the PRA including our DNA Study, visit us at > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > ************************************** > Learn what's new at the PRA by going to http://www.penningtonresearch.organd click on the "News" link on the left side of the page. > ************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > -- Melinda Pennington

I decided to retackle the problem of connection FG 1/FG 20 and the North Carolina Penningtons. I am working my way through the counties that ran along the great wagon road from Philadelphia down through the Great Valley of Virginia. I found a few Penningtons that I am putting forward for perusal, if anyone recognizes them or has already gone over them please let me know. I am sure there are other things out there, these are just my first stab. Let me know what you think. Mandy Colgan FG 20 First: In York Co. PA there is an Capt. Ephraim Pennington 1st Battalion York Co. Milita Rev. War. His children were baptized at Christ Evangelical Lutheran Church in York, the only church there for a while and then the main church in the county. I have postulated him as Ephraim the son of Timothy of Mendham NJ. He is the right age and doesn't seem to be connected anywhere else. York County Will Abstracts 1749-1819 Pennington, Ephraim. York Borough. January 26, 1815 February 1, 1815 Executor: George Haller. Wife: Lydia Pennington. Children: Timothy, Mary m. John Stoner, Elizabeth m. Joseph Wampler, Susanna m. George Haller, and Lydia m. Robert Hay Second: Abraham and Issac Pennington of Old Frederick Co. VA. Old Frederick Co. represents or includes 12 present-day counties, 7 of which are now in West Virginia. They are to the west of the Great Wagon Road and north of Old Augusta Co. VA. This Abraham and Issac are of an age where they could be brothers to Timothy of Mendham NJ - they both received land grants in the 1730's which is the same time that Timothy is having children in NJ. Issac appears in the tax rolls in 1759. Isaac and John Vanmetre Land Grant assignees, 1730/1734, Frederick Co., VA USGenWeb Land Grant from William Gooch, Lieutenant Governour and Commander in Chief of Virginia Colony, to Isaac and John Vanmetre dated 17 June 1730. Assignees of 42,289 acres in 1734 to: 3 October 1734 Isaac Pennington, 500 acres. Abraham Pennington, 600 acres Virginia Census, 1800-90 [database on-line]. Ancestry.com Issac Penington Virginia Frederick Rent Rolls 1759 Third: There is a Timothy Pennington who married in Rockbridge Co. VA just a touch farther south on the Wagon Road. I have not yet found him elsewhere but will continue to look. A possible son of either Abraham or Issac of Frederick Co. VA? Named after his grandfather? Virginia Marriages to 1800 [database on-line]. Ancestry.com Timothy Pennington, Mary Fulton, 23 Feb 1785 Rockbridge Virginia

In a message dated 11/28/2006 12:43:01 P.M. Central Standard Time, carmenmjo@cableone.net writes: "Family Origins is still out there and a good program. It has never been one that I have enjoyed using. An awful lot of genealogy programs have fallen by the wayside. PAF is being discontinued, Generations is no longer made. Legacy Family Tree is quite popular. " I contacted the LDS Church Distribution Center that provides free downloads of PAF regarding the possible discontinuation of PAF. Their response indicates to me that there is no plan to discontinue it Dear Thomas Williams, Thank you for your query regarding production or support of PAF 5. Certainly support will continue for current versions as long as practical. As equipment, technology and data availability have evolved so has PAF, now to version 5.2.18.0. Presently a vast effort is being extended in developing the New FamilySearch to make tracing family history more efficient and to eliminate duplications. The PAF record will still be a vital personal role in the total program. As to the future, we will learn the answer along with you. We hope this information is helpful with your concern, and wish you much success in your continued family history work. Sincerely, FamilySearch Support support@familysearch.org <CaseID:306498>

It is with regret that I announce the resignation of Barrie Petty as the Group Leader for Group 1. Barrie informed us that she will not be renewing her PRA membership in 2007 and therefore cannot serve as a Group Leader. We wish Barrie the best as she settles down in her new home in Arizona. Gene Pennington (Group 7) Chairman Research Director Pennington Research Association, Inc. www.PenningtonResearch.org

Hi Cousins, It seems that we run the gauntlet in the programs we use to record our families. If we're going to use the list for evaluations, try to concentrate on the features rather than saying one program is difficult. Depending on ones needs, a lack of a particular feature is neither good, bad or difficult. Thanks. William Pennington Group 3 --------------------------------- Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.

Steve: After reading your message as well as the thoughtful and very helpful replies, I'd like to offer my suggestions and comments. You seem to be asking several questions that we all ask ourselves as we start our quest for information about our ancestors. These questions will never really go away because the answers change as technology and research methods evolve forcing us to regularly revisit these same questions. Here are the questions I think you're asking and my suggestions and comments. 1. How to document genealogical material such as newspaper articles, photos, etc. You need to develop a record collection process system that uses traditional record documentation techniques such as numbering documents, analyzing them and preserving them so they'll last as long as possible. This system includes file cabinet/s, file folders, folder labels, transparent document holders (acid free), divider tabs, etc. It is very important to document when, and from where, you obtain the material and then to index and file it so you can find it again. By placing the material in a safe place (out of reach of the kids and other curious persons), you'll help ensure the material will remain a valuable part of your research. 2. How to save/record and organize newspaper articles, photos, etc. I file the material in a file cabinet using an index and file system that allows me to easily find any document. I also scan each document, (newspaper articles, photos, birth, marriage and death certificates, military discharge papers, etc.) and give it an index number that mirrors the one assigned to it in my paper system. Then I save the digital file in a file folder on my computer using a file system that looks very much like my file system in the file cabinet. For example, under "My Documents" I have a folder titled "Genealogy". Under "Genealogy" I have a folder titled "Pennington". Under "Pennington" I have several folders with titles like "Photos", "Census Records", "Maps", "Biographies", "Birth-Marriage-Death Certificates", "Bible Records" and on and on. I can make up additional folders as the need arises. I can easily move/copy digital files from one folder to anther. This makes it much, much easier for me to find files/material when I go looking for them. I then place a copy of these digitized files in my genealogy software program as sources/evidence, pictures of people, etc. To see what these look like, please visit my personal genealogy website at --> http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~genepenn/ . This website includes pictures and digitized files used as sources/evidence, etc. To help ensure I don't loose these important files, I make backups of all my digital files and keep one back up in my safe deposit box and the other back up in my office. I want to stress how important it is to make backups of your data on a regular basis (weekly if not daily) and to keep at least one copy of your backed up data (for the previous month) in a safe location away from your home. 3. How to record people and events you wish to preserve as part of your research. It's my opinion that most good genealogy programs helps a researcher to record two basic things - people and events. Each of these have their own unique pieces of information (data) that need to be recorded as well. How well a genealogy software program let's you record this information, and how well it helps you to create a variety of reports is also very important. In today's Internet age, it is also important how well, and easily, the program helps you create a genealogy website and/or a CD. I have used Family Tree Maker, but not recently. I use RootsMagic and The Master Genealogist all the time. I recommend Family Tree Maker for beginning computer and genealogy researchers, however, as you read in the replies, many intermediate to advanced researchers use Family Tree Maker. I recommend RootsMagic for computer and genealogy beginners to advanced users. I recommend The Master Genealogist for intermediate to advanced computer users and those who consider themselves intermediate or advanced researchers. Each software program has it's advantages and downsides, however, it is my opinion that RootsMagic is the best overall genealogy software program. It offers almost all the "bells and whistles" you could possibly want in a genealogy software program, offers great reports (and a wide variety of reports) and is easy to use. All of these programs have free downloads for you to try (Rick's reply has the website addresses). I hope you find these suggestions and comments helpful. Gene Pennington (Group 7) Chairman Research Director Pennington Research Association, Inc. www.PenningtonResearch.org

Steve in Group 4 - lets share our family genealogy persnally - okay?? Nell Beck Truitt - Group IV In a message dated 11/28/2006 11:49:20 A.M. Central Standard Time, stkelly@syr.edu writes: Thanks for any help! Steve Kelly Group 4 Happiness keeps you sweet, Trials keeps you Strong, Sorrows keeps you Human, Failures keeps you Humble, Success keeps you Glowing, But only GOD keeps you Going!

Steve, I have used the Personal Ancestral File for years and I have not had any glitches. I updated to the most recent version which has a few more "niceities". It is easy - pretty self-explanatory. The program and the basic publishing program are free - a great deal. The files don't take up a lot of space. My actual family files are huge (thousands of people) and it handles the files very well. Let's face it - The Morman's know ancestor tracking. Mandy Colgan FG 20 Leader -----Original Message----- From: pra-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pra-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Paul A. Pennington Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 1:43 PM To: PRA Mail List Subject: Re: [PRA] software recommendations > What software do you recommend/use for your > documentation purposes? Steve; I'm sure you will get many recommendations from the folks here. You might consider Personal Ancestral File, available as a free download from: www.familysearch.org I went back to it years ago after trying some others. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints was one of the first to offer a genealogy program on computers. Their software tends to be solid and done right the first time. I've had my present version for years, and I just checked online and found it is still current. While earlier versions were rather basic, the current Windows release is full-featured. You can literally publish your data on a web site with a mouse click, as I do. When some of my relations complained about being listed on a web site because of privacy concerns, I found an option in the program to replace living persons names with the word "living". Another click solved the problem. I like that. Publishing your data in book form is also handled easily. There is an add-on module available for printing fancy charts and reports if you want more options. Help with the program is available on-line and in your local Family History Center, and I'd be happy to answer any questions about the program if I can. Paul A. Pennington Augusta, Georgia Group 28 Leader *************************************** Please note NEW address to post to the list: PRA@rootsweb.com ************************************** For more information about the PRA including our DNA Study, visit us at http://www.penningtonresearch.org ************************************** Learn what's new at the PRA by going to http://www.penningtonresearch.org and click on the "News" link on the left side of the page. ************************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've had a chance to use all the major genealogy programs for reviews I've written for Family Tree Magazine <www.familytreemagazine.com>. I think RootsMagic (the successor to Family Origins), $29.95, (877) 766-8762, <www.rootsmagic.com>, is one of the best programs overall. It's both easy to use and produces excellent reports and Web pages. It's also hard to beat Personal Ancestral File (PAF), a free download from FamilySearch <www.familysearch.org>. It's very easy to use and does just about everything you'll need. It's probably worth paying a little more to get the full version of PAF Companion with it so you can print colorful ancestor and descendant charts. Family Tree Maker ($29.95, <www.familytreemaker.com>) used to focus only on printing graphical charts, but now it's a more well-rounded program. It's well integrated with Ancestry.com and may be a good choice if you subscribe to that service. But Family Tree Maker does have a few shortcomings. The family group sheets and pedigree charts are poorly designed. Also, you can publish your family tree for free on Family Tree Maker's Web site, but you can't create a report in HTML format for publishing on your own Web site. Another quirk: Family Tree Maker can exchange GEDCOM files with other programs, but not the multimedia links. So if somebody has created links to pictures in another program, they can share their data with you, but not links to pictures. I think The Master Genealogist is too hard to use and doesn't offer any important features that you won't find in PAF, RootsMagic or Family Tree Maker. Rick Crume Contributing Editor Family Tree Magazine PRA Group 17 -----Original Message----- From: pra-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pra-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Steven Kelly Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 11:47 AM To: PRA Mail List Subject: [PRA] software recommendations Good afternoon, What software do you recommend/use for your documentation purposes? I figure it is time to get all of the hand-drawn family trees my grandfather has done and all of the newspaper articles, photos, etc all together and organized...with a 3 year old running around, things tend to turn up missing!! Plus I need to get it in a format where I can contribute to the efforts here... I have researched and RootsWeb and Family Tree Maker seem to get the best reviews from the various online sites, but I thought I would ask the experts! Thanks for any help! Steve Kelly Group 4

> What software do you recommend/use for your > documentation purposes? Steve; I'm sure you will get many recommendations from the folks here. You might consider Personal Ancestral File, available as a free download from: www.familysearch.org I went back to it years ago after trying some others. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints was one of the first to offer a genealogy program on computers. Their software tends to be solid and done right the first time. I've had my present version for years, and I just checked online and found it is still current. While earlier versions were rather basic, the current Windows release is full-featured. You can literally publish your data on a web site with a mouse click, as I do. When some of my relations complained about being listed on a web site because of privacy concerns, I found an option in the program to replace living persons names with the word "living". Another click solved the problem. I like that. Publishing your data in book form is also handled easily. There is an add-on module available for printing fancy charts and reports if you want more options. Help with the program is available on-line and in your local Family History Center, and I'd be happy to answer any questions about the program if I can. Paul A. Pennington Augusta, Georgia Group 28 Leader

Good afternoon, What software do you recommend/use for your documentation purposes? I figure it is time to get all of the hand-drawn family trees my grandfather has done and all of the newspaper articles, photos, etc all together and organized...with a 3 year old running around, things tend to turn up missing!! Plus I need to get it in a format where I can contribute to the efforts here... I have researched and RootsWeb and Family Tree Maker seem to get the best reviews from the various online sites, but I thought I would ask the experts! Thanks for any help! Steve Kelly Group 4

Steve, It all depends on what you do with your software. The most intensive genealogy program is probably "The Master Genealogists" which includes a lot of citation choices, etc. There are others like Gene Pennington who use that software that can give you a lot more info. It is more difficult to use, but some find the rewards more important than the input. Family Origins is still out there and a good program. It has never been one that I have enjoyed using. An awful lot of genealogy programs have fallen by the wayside. PAF is being discontinured, Generations is no longer made. Legacy Family Tree is quite popular. However, I have been and continue to be a Family Tree Maker user. Primarily for the following reasons: The interface is very easy to use and navigate. Using keyboard shortcuts, I can quickly move from parent to child and sibling to sibling. As I am intering information, I can quickly use a keyboard shortcut to get to the source window. It is easy to export to a gen report format or as a gedcom. I typically don't include much in the way of pictures and or clippings. I will type the information in the notes or copy and paste information. This is because I don't want my file size to get too big. My main family database is about 73,000 individuals and Pennington database is about 11,000. My main database is the result of about 10 years of work. Having said that, I have copies with my aunt and grandmother - Did I say it was easy to export??? That way I have a backup. I think that everyone has a favorite software program and can give you the high and low points of their choices. I have tried many other programs, but always seem to come back to Family Tree Maker. I just like working with it! Carmen Johnson ARD - JFMF PRA Group 7: http://pragroup7.genheirlooms.com PRA - www.penningtonresearch.org On Tue Nov 28 9:47 , 'Steven Kelly' <stkelly@syr.edu> sent: >Good afternoon, > >What software do you recommend/use for your documentation purposes? > >I figure it is time to get all of the hand-drawn family trees my >grandfather has done and all of the newspaper articles, photos, etc all >together and organized...with a 3 year old running around, things tend >to turn up missing!! Plus I need to get it in a format where I can >contribute to the efforts here... > >I have researched and RootsWeb and Family Tree Maker seem to get the >best reviews from the various online sites, but I thought I would ask >the experts! > >Thanks for any help! >Steve Kelly >Group 4 > >Please note NEW address to post to the list: PRA@rootsweb.com >For more information about the PRA including our DNA Study, visit us at http://www.penningtonresearch.org >Learn what's new at the PRA by going to http://www.penningtonresearch.org and click on the "News" link on the left side of the page. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---- Msg sent via CableONE.net MyMail - http://www.cableone.net

Address for seeing photo is below...Lois Spencer County IN Archives Photo Tombstone.....Pennington, Dixon/Minnie Stranger ************************************************ Copyright. All rights reserved. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/copyright.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/in/infiles.htm ************************************************ File contributed for use in USGenWeb Archives by: Edd Marks elrathia61427@yahoo.com October 30, 2006, 10:59 pm Cemetery: Union Chapel EUB Cemetery Name: Dixon/Minnie Stranger Pennington Date Of Photograph: August 12, 2006 Photo can be seen at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/in/spencer/photos/tombstones/unionchapeleub/ penningt39gph.jpg Image file size: 120.7 Kb Dixon Pennington 3 Apr 1844 26 Feb 1924 s/o Zach and Julia Ann Nolin Pennington his wife Minnie Stranger Pennington 20 Oct 1866 3 Aug 1941 Additional Comments: Union Chapel EUB cem., Lamar, Spencer Co., IN File at: http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/in/spencer/photos/tombstones/unionchapeleub/penningt39gph.txt This file has been created by a form at http://www.genrecords.org/infiles/ File size: 1.1 Kb You have to do your own growing up no matter how tall your grandfather was.

Address for seeing photo is below...Lois Spencer County IN Archives Photo Tombstone.....Pennington, Zachariah Floyd /Julia Ann Nolin ************************************************ Copyright. All rights reserved. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/copyright.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/in/infiles.htm ************************************************ File contributed for use in USGenWeb Archives by: Edd Marks elrathia61427@yahoo.com October 30, 2006, 10:56 pm Cemetery: Union Chapel EUB Cemetery Name: Zachariah Floyd /Julia Ann Nolin Pennington Date Of Photograph: August 12, 2006 Photo can be seen at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/in/spencer/photos/tombstones/unionchapeleub/ penningt38gph.jpg Image file size: 112.9 Kb Zachariah Floyd Pennington 22 Nov 1815 25 Oct 1884 s/o Dennis and Elizabeth Floyd Pennington his wife Julia Ann Nolin Pennington 17 Dec 1823 19 Feb 1896 Additional Comments: Union Chapel EUB cem., Lamar, Spencer Co., IN File at: http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/in/spencer/photos/tombstones/unionchapeleub/penningt38gph.txt This file has been created by a form at http://www.genrecords.org/infiles/ File size: 1.1 Kb You have to do your own growing up no matter how tall your grandfather was.

The term of office for three members currently serving on the PRA Board of Directors will expire at the end of 2006. This past October ballots were sent to all PRA Members for the purpose of electing individuals to serve a three year term on the Pennington Research Association Board of Directors beginning January 2007. I am pleased to announce that the general membership of the Pennington Research Association have chosen Katherine Allman, Jasper Green Pennington and James W. Pennington to represent their organization for the referenced three year term. Congratulations to these candidates and on behalf of the members of the Pennington Research Association I would like to express our sincere appreciation for their wiliness to serve our association in this important capacity. Respectfully Jim Pennington President

A co-researcher on another list posted this information in answer to my pondering when photography was "invented" and if I ever might realistically hope to ever find pix of more distant generations of ancestors. Thought some of you might also find it interesting and/or helpful. Happy Thanksgiving! Deb Fox Claussen 1829 daguerreotype, a single-image process, however--each exposure produced only one picture, incapable of reproduction. About 1829 "photogenic drawings" lacked the daguerreotype's sharp detail and brilliance but offered the great advantage that from one negative a large number of positive prints could be made. 1851 wet-collodion process, in which used a glass plate coated with collodion as a base for light-sensitive silver halides. In the mid-1850s the tintype, an inexpensive imitation of the daguerreotype 1871 a new era in photography began when an amateur English photographer, R.L. Maddox, produced a successful dry plate that retained its light-sensitivity after drying. In the 1880s the American George Eastman put flexible roll film on the market, and in 1889 he introduced the first Kodak camera with the slogan, "You push the button and we do the rest."