Dorman has been quite a while getting his second volume completed. Hopefully, his new work on volumes two and three will provide some insight. He evidently found something in his research to cause him to change his opinion on Elizabeth Cocke's husband.......Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Jones" <randyj2222@yahoo.com> To: <POYTHRESS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 8:09 PM Subject: Re: Joshua Poythress, Jr., of Flowerdew Hundred, 5th Generation > Thanks for the additional information. I wonder where Dorman got his > information? > > -- Randy Jones > > Michael Tutor <badbichon@earthlink.net> wrote: > I grabbed a few quick references that I have posted below. You may or may > not conclude as I have. > > Dorman has written in his new book that he believes that Robert Poythress > married Elizabeth Cocke, the daughter of James Cocke and Elizabeth > Pleasants. In his earlier works, he quoted Thomas Poythress as Elizabeth > Cocke's husband. In Batte's work, Batte had shown Thomas Poythress as the > son of the older John Poythress who was the first cousin of John > Poythress, > Jr. John Poythress, Jr., in his 1724 Will, named Thomas Poythress as his > brother. Thomas Poythress owned land adjoining Woodyard. His niece, > Elizabeth Poythress Cocke, mentioned Woodyard's in her Will. > > As to John Poythress, Jr., of the 1724 Will: > > John Poythress was born about 1681, in Charles City County, the son of > Francis Poythress and Rebecca Coggin. He married Mary (Hardyman?) about > 1710. Their children were (1) John Poythress (c. 1711-bef. 6/1760); (2) > Frances Poythress, (3) Rebecca Poythress, (4) Elizabeth Poythress (c. > 1720-bef. 7/1801), who married James Cocke; (5) William Poythress, and (6) > Anne Poythress. John Poythress was dead before May 12, 1724. > > As to Elizabeth Poythress Cocke: > > July, 1801, in Prince George County, the Will of Elizabeth Cocke, dated > 1800. > To Elizabeth Cocke, 400 acres, the plantation she bought of Richard > Harrison, also 100 acres, adjoining it known by the name of the Woodyard. > To James Cocke, the land she inherited "by the death of her brother, John > Poythress, called Goodwine, also the land she purchased of John Worthen. > To Benjamin Cocke, the remainder of Woodyard after deducting 300 acres > devised to her daughter, Elizabeth." (Woodyard was described as being 12 > miles east of the Prince George courthouse). > > As to Doctor James Cocke: > > November, 1809, Chapter 63, laws of Maryland under the control and > direction > of the levy court, and by them applied towards defraying the county > charges. > Passed, January 6, 1810, an Act authorizing Doctor James Cocke to remove > certain negroes into the state of Maryland. Whereas the said James Cocke > has, by his petition set forth, that in the year 1804, he removed from > Virginia to this state, but being then undetermined as to the place of his > permanent residence, he did not avail himself of the power he enjoyed > under > the acts of assembly, to bring into this state, at the time of his said > removal, or within 12 months thereafter, certain negroes which he was > entitled to, and possessed of, under the last will and testament of his > grandfather John Poythress, and his father James Cocke, and has prayed > that > a law may pass, authorizing him to remove the said negroes, as slaves, > from > the state of Virginia into the state of Maryland, in the same manner that > he > could have done at the time of his removal as aforesaid; and the prayer of > the said petition appearing reasonable, therefore, be it enacted, by the > General Assembly of Maryland, that the said James Cocke be and he is > hereby > authorised and empowered, at any time or times within 12 months after the > passage of this act, to remove and bring into this state the said negro > slaves, or any of them, and their issue, in the same manner that he might > or > could have done at the time of his own removal herein, any law to the > contrary thereof in any wise notwithstanding, provided the said doctor > James > Cocke register the said negroes, and their issue, in Baltimore County > court, > in the same manner as he by law would have been compelled to do had he > have > brought them into this state within one year after his removal from > Virginia > as aforesaid, and provided said negroes be of that description allowed by > the laws of this state to be removed and brought into this state. The > document showed that Dr. James Cocke was the son of James Cocke and the > grandson of John Poythress, Jr. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Randy Jones" > To: > > Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 9:22 PM > Subject: Re: Joshua Poythress, Jr., of Flowerdew Hundred, 5th Generation > > >> >> >> Michael Tutor wrote: I have listed only two >> daughters for Joshua and Elizabeth Robertson >> Poythress. Elizabeth Robertson Poythress was the daughter of Archibald >> Robertson and Elizabeth Fitzgerald. Elizabeth Fitzgerald was the daughter >> of >> John Fitzgerald and Elizabeth Poythress. Elizabeth Poythress was the >> daughter of John Poythress and Christian Peebles. The number of women in >> the >> Poythress family and associated families can cause as much confusion as >> the >> many men in the family named Francis, John and William. >> >> The Fifth Generation: Joshua Poythress, Jr., of Flowerdew Hundred >> R. Bolling Batte on Joshua Poythress, Jr. >> [211 1 Joshua Poythress (- 1794), m. Elizabeth Robertson, daughter of >> Archibald and Elizabeth (Fitzgerald) Robertson. Joshua and his wife were >> second cousins. They lived and died at Flowerdew Hundred and both were >> there >> buried. She died 7 September 1787. >> 211 11 Elizabeth Poythress. Shown as a child of Joshua and Elizabeth >> (Robertson) Poythress in the notes on the Robertson family made by Gov. >> Wyndham Robertson. Elizabeth (Robertson) Poythress was the governor's >> aunt. >> He certainly would have had personal knowledge of her children. Several >> printed accounts of the Cocke and Poythress families state that James >> Cocke, >> son of Benjamin, married Elizabeth Poythress, daughter of Joshua, without >> identifying the Joshua, and that they had a daughter Elizabeth Cocke who >> married Jacob Hoffman. As to this last couple there can be no doubt. In >> 1955 >> I ran across a monument in the cemetery in Leesburg inscribed: "In memory >> of >> Jacob Hoffman/and his wife/ Elizabeth Cocke/and their children/erected by >> their grand-daughter/1928." If the mother of this Elizabeth Cocke had >> indeed >> been the daughter of any Joshua Poythress at all she would have to have >> been >> the daughter of Joshua 211 1. She could not possibly been the daughter of >> Joshua 211 and Mary Short, for their daughter Elizabeth (as we shall see >> later) married Simon Fraser in 1775. Elizabeth Poythress who married >> James >> Cocke is said to have died in 1800. Tentatively I place her here. [Batte >> refers to Wyndham Robertson as "Governor." I expect we may assume that >> this >> Wyndham Robertson (or one of his descendants) is the author of >> "Pocahontas >> and her Descendants."] >> >> I haven't doublechecked, but my notes say Batte has Elizabeth as the >> daughter of Thomas Poythress (b.1677) and Elizabeth Pleasants Cocke. >> >> -- Randy Jones >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. >> >> >> ==== POYTHRESS Mailing List ==== >> Poythress Genealogy Research Web >> www.poythress.net >> >> > > > > ==== POYTHRESS Mailing List ==== > Poythress Genealogy Research Web > www.poythress.net > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less > > > ==== POYTHRESS Mailing List ==== > Poythress Genealogy Research Web > www.poythress.net > >