Cindy was responding to my message that mentioned that the grandparents of "Billy" Whitney F. Poythress & his sister Patsy, were Simeon & Ola Poythress (Patsy said her grandfather's name is pronounced like "Simon"), and that Patsy was thrilled to learn from what I relayed to her about Elaine's census work, in which Elaine found that Simeon was a son of George W. Poythress, and we had concluded that George W. was likely a son of David Poythress of Mecklenburg Co, VA. (See bottom, here, for recap of these censuses) However, as Maynard's and Cindy's questions have pointed out, the name "George Washington Poythress" was not so unusual. So perhaps I was too hasty in my earlier conclusion that the "George W" who was father of Simeon was the same "George W" who was son of David. Maynard, I think the birthdate of the George Washington Poythress you mentioned was 13 January 1819 -- Do I have that right? And did Hester's brother list the state or town for any of the births he recorded? & I'm curious -- in what was Mr. Mock (Hester's brother) recording these births? Thanks! Barbara = = = Census recap mentioned above: In the 1870 Census (in Person Co, NC), George W & his wife Permelia have their own household in Flat River Township, with father shown as "Geo. W. Poyetress" age 31, male, white, farm laborer born in VA, cannot read or write." Among the 5 children in the household (ages 3 months to 8 yrs) is Simeon, age 2, born NC. In 2 earlier censuses: (1) David Poythress' 1850 Census household (Mecklenburg Co, VA), 9-yr old George was shown without a middle initial; but in (2) David Poythress' 1860 Census household (Warren Co, NC, where the Census-taker listed every person on the page just with first & middle initials), the then 19-yr old young man in the household is shown as "G.W" with the middle initial being quite clear on the Census record.