John, I am watching your Poythress searches with great interest because of Robert Wynne's marriage to Mary Poythress. Does anyone have the actual record of Mary Sloman marrying Francis Poythress in St. Dunstan's Cathedral? I have seen this theory posted on the Web Site. I did find record of Robert Wynne's christening in 1622 in St. Dunstan's in the Canterbury Cathedral Archives while visiting Canterbury. I did search there and in the Canterbury Public Library for all Wynne and Sloman records in the area but must admit I did not search under "Poythress". I will be happy to help in any way I can in assisting you in building your database for Virginia as I am interested in all of the very early Virginia settlers. As I have said many times before, I have three shelves about 12 feet long filled with four inch notebooks containing a vast amount of Wynne info. I used to have visions of publishing it but to be realistic, I am getting to the age where I will probably never reach that goal. Somewhere I have record of Robert Wynne having two people by the name of "Sloman" connected to his head right. I, personally, do not know exactly when Robert Wynne came to Virginia but have estimated it to be around 1647 when the Royalist Rebellion broke out in full force in Kent County. Keep up your good work! Deloris Wynne-Riley. P.S. Remember, it is said Abraham Wood came to America as a very young boy (was it around eight years old ?) so could Francis Poythress have also been a young boy when he came? A Thomas Wynne and a Peter Wynne were also members of the Virginia Company. I believe they both came to America--Thomas Wynne died at sea at some point in time and Peter Wynne died during the starving time in Virginia--I believe it was 1609 (?)--will need to verify by my records. I believe this Capt. Peter Wynne to be the brother of Mayor of Canterbury Robert Wynne. (Mayor) Robert Wynne also sent a load of oatmeale over under the auspices of the Virginia Company. -----Original Message----- From: John M. Poythress [mailto:brerfox@bellsouth.net] Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 2:14 PM To: POYTHRESS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Francis' Arrival in America I am scouring the archives for documents to continue to build on a "complete" (or as complete as I can make it) database for Virginia. Anyone have an opinion on whether or not one should draw an inference from the below that Francis Poythres arrived VA 1617? Remember that at least "a" Francis Poythres was baptised 1609 so if "Francis" did arrive 1617 then he was only 8 years of age, hardly qualifying as a factor. And if the 3 ships came as a "fleet" then Francis was accompanied by his future son-in-law. I'm understandably leary of this one. Maynard From: "Albert R. Tims" < atims@minn.net> Subject: By GEORGE, I think we've got something here Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 17:13:52 -0500 Poythress List, You "ancient" listers will recall that I've speculated from time to time about a possible connection between Francis Poythress and the London Company. You'll also recall that I've been interested in the ships named in the following account: ...Lawrence Evans, merchant, sent to Virginia in the previous year goods for a value of =A32,000 in three ships, the Rebecca, master - Richard Buckham, the George, master -- Robert Page, and the Hopewell, master -- William Smith. One factor died during the journey, his other factor Francis Poetres returned a bill of only =A3150. C. M. Andres, F. G. Davenport, Guide to the Manuscript Materials for the history of the United States to 1783, in the British Museum, in Minor London Archives and in the libraries of Oxford and Cambridge (Washington, D.C., 1908) pp. 170-177. p. 220 I don't know why it has taken me so long to make this connection, but it turns out that the ship the London Company had arranged for John Rolfe, Lady Rebecca (Pocahontas) and young Thomas Rolfe to use for their return to Virginia in March of 1617 was the above named George. This is as close as I believe we've come to developing a basis for establishing a link between the London Company and Francis Poythress. Best, Al Tims ==== POYTHRESS Mailing List ==== Poythress Genealogy Research Web www.poythress.net

Deloris, I probably should have qualified that bit of whimsy as just that: a bit of whimsy. I think the chances are almost zero of Francis Poythress having come to America in a "convoy" in 1617 accompanied in one of the other ships by Thomas Rolfe. But that was the implication of the ancient email to which I was responding. I also think the chances of your finding anything on Francis in the Canterbury region would have been pretty close to zero. Everything we know about this man and the multiple spelling variants of those left behind in England just screams "west country".......Glos, Herefordshire, and just as a guess a little piece of east Wales. I am also very skeptical of all the websites that place Francis in or from London...the very "internal" evidence of these sites says they stand a good chance of being "universal" copies since they all seem to read the same, something to the effect of: Francis was born in London in 1688, son of Joshua and Peachy_______"....and not a whit of additional information is added. I would speculate that the scenario here is that the millions of Pocahontas chasers simply see those two or three "facts" and simply list them as a matter of filling in the blanks. When I first saw these I began to cordially query the posters if they would be so kind as to share "sources." Most stated they had simply copied a line they "found on the internet"....others went so far as to claim such and such gedcom from somebody unknown as a "validation." After a dozen or so instances and I gave up that folly...but would still welcome for their claim a validation of almost any kind I will post a msg to the group today about a database CD. Best, Maynard -----Original Message----- From: Deloris Riley [mailto:delorisriley@satx.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 11:23 AM To: POYTHRESS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: Francis' Arrival in America John, I am watching your Poythress searches with great interest because of Robert Wynne's marriage to Mary Poythress. Does anyone have the actual record of Mary Sloman marrying Francis Poythress in St. Dunstan's Cathedral? I have seen this theory posted on the Web Site. I did find record of Robert Wynne's christening in 1622 in St. Dunstan's in the Canterbury Cathedral Archives while visiting Canterbury. I did search there and in the Canterbury Public Library for all Wynne and Sloman records in the area but must admit I did not search under "Poythress". I will be happy to help in any way I can in assisting you in building your database for Virginia as I am interested in all of the very early Virginia settlers. As I have said many times before, I have three shelves about 12 feet long filled with four inch notebooks containing a vast amount of Wynne info. I used to have visions of publishing it but to be realistic, I am getting to the age where I will probably never reach that goal. Somewhere I have record of Robert Wynne having two people by the name of "Sloman" connected to his head right. I, personally, do not know exactly when Robert Wynne came to Virginia but have estimated it to be around 1647 when the Royalist Rebellion broke out in full force in Kent County. Keep up your good work! Deloris Wynne-Riley. P.S. Remember, it is said Abraham Wood came to America as a very young boy (was it around eight years old ?) so could Francis Poythress have also been a young boy when he came? A Thomas Wynne and a Peter Wynne were also members of the Virginia Company. I believe they both came to America--Thomas Wynne died at sea at some point in time and Peter Wynne died during the starving time in Virginia--I believe it was 1609 (?)--will need to verify by my records. I believe this Capt. Peter Wynne to be the brother of Mayor of Canterbury Robert Wynne. (Mayor) Robert Wynne also sent a load of oatmeale over under the auspices of the Virginia Company. -----Original Message----- From: John M. Poythress [mailto:brerfox@bellsouth.net] Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 2:14 PM To: POYTHRESS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Francis' Arrival in America I am scouring the archives for documents to continue to build on a "complete" (or as complete as I can make it) database for Virginia. Anyone have an opinion on whether or not one should draw an inference from the below that Francis Poythres arrived VA 1617? Remember that at least "a" Francis Poythres was baptised 1609 so if "Francis" did arrive 1617 then he was only 8 years of age, hardly qualifying as a factor. And if the 3 ships came as a "fleet" then Francis was accompanied by his future son-in-law. I'm understandably leary of this one. Maynard From: "Albert R. Tims" < atims@minn.net> Subject: By GEORGE, I think we've got something here Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 17:13:52 -0500 Poythress List, You "ancient" listers will recall that I've speculated from time to time about a possible connection between Francis Poythress and the London Company. You'll also recall that I've been interested in the ships named in the following account: ...Lawrence Evans, merchant, sent to Virginia in the previous year goods for a value of =A32,000 in three ships, the Rebecca, master - Richard Buckham, the George, master -- Robert Page, and the Hopewell, master -- William Smith. One factor died during the journey, his other factor Francis Poetres returned a bill of only =A3150. C. M. Andres, F. G. Davenport, Guide to the Manuscript Materials for the history of the United States to 1783, in the British Museum, in Minor London Archives and in the libraries of Oxford and Cambridge (Washington, D.C., 1908) pp. 170-177. p. 220 I don't know why it has taken me so long to make this connection, but it turns out that the ship the London Company had arranged for John Rolfe, Lady Rebecca (Pocahontas) and young Thomas Rolfe to use for their return to Virginia in March of 1617 was the above named George. This is as close as I believe we've come to developing a basis for establishing a link between the London Company and Francis Poythress. Best, Al Tims ==== POYTHRESS Mailing List ==== Poythress Genealogy Research Web www.poythress.net ==== POYTHRESS Mailing List ==== Visit www.poythress.net o learn more about Rootsweb please visit http://www.rootsweb.com/