Any of you who know me, know I am a devout user of www.google.com for most everything, but, Maynard, I gave your page reference [http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/columns/george/4424.asp] a shot, and while stunned at all that writing (you warned us), I tried this one, and I think it is quite nifty. http://www.webbrain.com/html/default_win.html The trick to using this one is to clear your browser of as many toolbars as you can, because the actual links are at the bottom and you can't see them unless you have lots of space. I entered "genealogy" as they suggested. (This search engine didn't work well with initial choices that are too specific.) I then for kicks tried "royalty." Then I tried "historical personages." The point here is that you expand your thinking as well as your searching. The surnames search proved to be a bust unless you are searching your brain for a specific name and wanted a list, though a phone book could accomplish the same thing. On a second try I somehow got into Scottish clans, and found the Campbells, one of my families. It is a little like the lottery. I was amazed at how many clan web sites there are. Regrettably, the Poythress name didn't show up for me as much I teased this site in that direction. But for "Virginia," it quickly produced a list of all the counties (when I chose "counties"). Very neat. I imagine it would do well for other states as well. Diana