A new slant, one that makes some sense, we have a lot of work to do. Should have fitured it was that Eppes bunch and the intermarriages between the 2 families for 150 or so years. Subj: Poythress Date: 5/13/2002 To: <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> Francis Poythress (the immigrant) appears Charles City 1632. Marries Mary________. Children are: 1. Jane m. Thomas Rolfe (generally accepted but not exactly chiseled in stone). 2. John m. Christian Peebles 3. Thomas, unmd. 4. Francis (2) m. Rebecca Coggin. Upon death of Francis (1) his widow Mary m. Capt. Robert Wynne. Does anyone have Mary's maiden name documented? Already known (but not necessarily discounted) candidates: Frances - likely just a confusion with first husband's given name Peterson - a Francis Poythress did m. a Mary Peterson but that's a Francis 2 generations down. Peyton - no evidence that I have seen. Sloman - has a rationale but it's a slim thread: this is a name that had not previously appeared in either family and it shows up in 1st and 2nd generations after widow Mary's marriage to Capt. Wynne in mid-1650s. Perhaps Francis Poythress gave his offspring names of HIS family because he was a hard case.....and Capt. Wynne was a kinder and gentler soul allowing Mary to intoduce her family name? Would appreciate any help with this lady's maiden name. Thanks, John M. Poythress Subj: Mary Sloman Date: 5/15/2002 9:01:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: <A HREF="mailto:BGilm59432">BGilm59432</A> To: <A HREF="mailto:VKRatliff">VKRatliff</A> Most of my research is by the internet and what I have needs to be confirmed but it seems the most likely answer I've found for Mary's maiden name. John Epes b. 1550 in Kent Co., England and his wife Thomasina Fisher had a daughter, Katherine bc 1579 that d. 1582. There was a second daughter named Katherine bc 1588. She md. 1st a cousin Peter Maplesden 18 Nov. 1606. He died bef. 1615 as at that time there was a lic. to marry dated 24 May 1615 in Ashford, Kent Co., Eng. for her and John Sloman. After Peter's death she md. a John Sloman of Kent Co., England. Katherine was a sister of the Francis Epes, the immigrant,who md. Marie Pawlett and thus the aunt of the Francis Epes who md. Elizabeth Littlebury. After the death of Francis Poythress his wife Mary ?Sloman md. Col. Robert Wynne. There followed a lawsuit in the rights of his wife Mary over her inheritance. The lawsuit was with Francis and William Epes. So it seems she was connected to the Epes family and probably the d/o John Sloman and Katherine Epes. John Sloman appears as a headright on a couple of trips to VA but all this needs more research. There is a very good workup on the Epes family at <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~poythress/Epes.html> Ihope this helps and if you learn more, please, let me know. Billie Jean Gilmore I went to the site above and the heading is "Chapter 14" which made me think for all the world that it would be directly from that book that some of us have (Ancestors and Descendants of Francis Epes I of Virginia ). Well, it may be but it's likely to not be easy to find. The Epes book is not arranged by chapters. In any event, I think Ms. Gilmore has presented us with some red meat on this subject. And the issue of that lawsuit is ringing bells. Would someone refresh my memory? Many thanks. Maynard