Posted by: Helen L. Tice¤Date: February 06, 2002 at 13:11:29 In Reply to: Re: Francis Poythress b.1614 London d.1661 Charles City, Va by John M. Poythress of 109 John: in the Charles City County, VA. Order Book 1687-1688 at a court held at Westover 3 Dec. 1688. Page 549 "Henry Reed exhibits his bill in chancery against Charles Bartholomew and Rebecca his wife, Executrix of Maj. Francis Poythress. Plt. shows that one Ann Young, sister of the orator, dying intestate, in this country; before commission of administration was sent forth, Maj. Francis Poythress inventoried her estate and had it appraised to value of 5664 lbs. tobacco, and was thereof possessed. Thereafter administration was granted to said Poythress and to Peter Read, the orator's father. That the moiety that belongs to one of the orphans of Ann was in the custody of said Peter. That said Peter had of said moiety only a mare and a cow, to value of 950 lbs. tobacco. There remained in custody of Pothress 1882 lbs. tobacco, but Poythress shortly afterward went to England and died, in the nonage of your orator, who begs recovery of 1882 lbs. tobacco, and prays that Charles Bartholomew and Rebecca his wife be subpoenaed to answer. " Ann Read Young died ca. 1685, and her estate would not have been appraised before she died. Unless we're speaking of another Poythress, I don't see how he could have died in 1661 in Charles City Co., VA when he was said to have appraised her estate around 1685. According to the Court Order Book, Major Poythress went to England and died. Group: This is message off that maddening Genalogy.com site where you can't "save" anything for your own records (or at least I need someone to tell me how to....I have already tried to use .rtf and it doesn't work, or at least it won't print). I'll make odds she is talking Francis(2) later aka "Major" and using this document as a stand alone. Without dredging through all my stuff I can't say if I have this document or not. I suspect "not." I would surely have remembered a line saying "Poythress shortly afterward went to England and died". In any case, I will speculate that Mrs. Tice is talking Francis(2) and I would further take a wild guess that perhaps widow Rebecca Coggin Poythress m.2 Charles Bartholomew. I'm confident I can prove I'm talking Francis(1) and she's talking Francis(2) via citing the (1675) will of Robert Wynne citing "my son-in-law" [stepson] Captian Francis Poythress as an overseer of the terms of the will. At least that puts it ahead of 1675. But I'd rather not "prove it in the negative"; I'd rather have something solid. Can anyone put a finger on this one? Thanks, Maynard

Maynard, I think you are absolutely correct in all your conjectures. I certainly have nothing to prove conclusively that the Francis Poythress, subject of the following, was Francis(2) but I, too, am 100% confident it is. On one point you state "I would further take a wild guess that perhaps widow Rebecca Coggin Poythress m.2 Charles Bartholomew." It seems that Boddie which I've cited in my notes as "“Exc. Journal Council Col. Va., Vol. I-3131, dated 14 Jun 1694” — Boddie, John Bennett, Historical Southern Families, Vol. IV, p. 31" fully agrees with you. He, Boddie, says: "She [Rebecca Coggin Poythress] later married (2) Charles Bartholomew, the widower of her sister. This resulted in court action, as according to the ecclesiastical law in effect in Virginia at that time, this constituted an incestuous marriage." Lou -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 10:38 AM To: [email protected] Subject: (no subject) Posted by: Helen L. Tice¤Date: February 06, 2002 at 13:11:29 In Reply to: Re: Francis Poythress b.1614 London d.1661 Charles City, Va by John M. Poythress of 109 John: in the Charles City County, VA. Order Book 1687-1688 at a court held at Westover 3 Dec. 1688. Page 549 "Henry Reed exhibits his bill in chancery against Charles Bartholomew and Rebecca his wife, Executrix of Maj. Francis Poythress. Plt. shows that one Ann Young, sister of the orator, dying intestate, in this country; before commission of administration was sent forth, Maj. Francis Poythress inventoried her estate and had it appraised to value of 5664 lbs. tobacco, and was thereof possessed. Thereafter administration was granted to said Poythress and to Peter Read, the orator's father. That the moiety that belongs to one of the orphans of Ann was in the custody of said Peter. That said Peter had of said moiety only a mare and a cow, to value of 950 lbs. tobacco. There remained in custody of Pothress 1882 lbs. tobacco, but Poythress shortly afterward went to England and died, in the nonage of your orator, who begs recovery of 1882 lbs. tobacco, and prays that Charles Bartholomew and Rebecca his wife be subpoenaed to answer. " Ann Read Young died ca. 1685, and her estate would not have been appraised before she died. Unless we're speaking of another Poythress, I don't see how he could have died in 1661 in Charles City Co., VA when he was said to have appraised her estate around 1685. According to the Court Order Book, Major Poythress went to England and died. Group: This is message off that maddening Genalogy.com site where you can't "save" anything for your own records (or at least I need someone to tell me how to....I have already tried to use .rtf and it doesn't work, or at least it won't print). I'll make odds she is talking Francis(2) later aka "Major" and using this document as a stand alone. Without dredging through all my stuff I can't say if I have this document or not. I suspect "not." I would surely have remembered a line saying "Poythress shortly afterward went to England and died". In any case, I will speculate that Mrs. Tice is talking Francis(2) and I would further take a wild guess that perhaps widow Rebecca Coggin Poythress m.2 Charles Bartholomew. I'm confident I can prove I'm talking Francis(1) and she's talking Francis(2) via citing the (1675) will of Robert Wynne citing "my son-in-law" [stepson] Captian Francis Poythress as an overseer of the terms of the will. At least that puts it ahead of 1675. But I'd rather not "prove it in the negative"; I'd rather have something solid. Can anyone put a finger on this one? Thanks, Maynard ==== POYTHRESS Mailing List ==== Poythress Geneaology Research Web http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~poythress/