Thanks, Lou, you had the very one I was fishing for: " Rebecca Coggin Poythress" m. 2 Charles Bartholomew. I just couldn't tease that one out of my memory bone. That Genealogy.com wire frustrates me to death. You have to go thru PC handsprings to copy and/or print stuff that's on there and you never get the e-mail address of whomever you are corresponding with. I suppose those guys are running the forum and are entitled to make a buck so they "protect their market." But what a pain. I was going to send you a copy of my return to her but I "posted" it and it doesn't even show up in my outgoing mailbox. I used your Boddie citation plus the will of Robert Wynne making Francis Poythress his son in law (stepson) an overseer of his administration as a "by definition" example; i. e. if Wynne died in 1675 he could ONLY be naming Francis Poythress(2) the son of Francis(1) and his own wife Mary______. Francis(1) HAD to be dead by 1675 in that example. Thanks again. I'll let you all know what she says if I can ever get it copied. Maynard