Barb...the only thing "restrictive" about these SAR guys is they nick you for 4 bucks to get in the library door unless you are already ordained with membership. <g> I suppose by contrast to the DAR, these guys have all the paper documented files of each successful applicant and the line by which he got there bound. And the accumulation of these gazillion applications comprises about 80% of the library's approx. 25M sq. ft. and the shelves are wide open. That one figures; typically I have found the DAR to do a Prussian postmaster act on some subjects while the SAR is laid back on just about everything. The library's other 20% is "textbooks" and I got thru all their indexes in couple of days and called it a day on the SAR since I couldn't find any applicant I wanted "by name"; i. e. the submissions are indexed by the applicant's name only without any "interior to the line" data that would help a search. I found no Poythress applicants and checked out, full well knowing that Lt. William was hiding somewhere in that 20M sq. ft. of shelves but figuring a lifetime to look was pretty long odds. At least that's the way it was a couple of years ago when I was last in there. Now that I have Prior and Peniston to look for that is at least something. But I guessing if the applicant's name ITSELF is not Prior or Peniston I'll be snookered. They may also have a full search feature by now. Even more importantly, I had an opportunity to join the SAR's library head enchalada for lunch a few months ago in connection with a little charity I do some work with I'll phone him before I go. I never fully believed that the only "bibliography" was by applicant's name and the enchalada will no doubt clear that up for me. Be back to you & the board. Maynard