Curtis, I think I have a thread for us to pull on. Any "chart" that I would have sent to anybody is almost certainly the R. Bolling Batte chart of "Early Poythress family in Virginia." If I haven't already sent you a copy of that I'd be pleased to do so. The chart is also on the Poythress web site (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~poythress/poythressmaster.htm) Go to the Poythress site above and click on sub-heading "Studies and Charts". The last two entries under the R. Bolling Batte title are the chart itself (it's in Acrobat so you'll need to download Acrobat but it's free anyway and so much is done in Acrobat I'd be surprised if you don't already have it). Magnify down the chart from Francis (the immigrant m. Mary ______ and first on the chart), Francis's son John m. Christian Peebles, their son William m. Sarah Epes, their son William m. 1) Mary Eppes and 2)________. Their daughter Mary (# 252 3) is shown as unmarried. NOW, go back to the top of those 4 Batte "entries" and the top two are "text". The first one is a tanscription of Mr. Batte's text which supposedly matches the chart. BINGO: "Mary Poythress (252 3) m. Francis Muir of Dinwiddie County." Mr. Batte, the rascal, put it in his text but left it off the chart. The second Batte entry is a Microsoft Excel spreadsheet put together by Lyn Baird who is a member of our group. Lyn was obviously and correctly working off the "text" of Mr. Batte rather than the chart because Lyn also accounted for Mary's marriage to Francis Muir. Since "Mary" was the name of William's first wife Mary Epes, I would also speculate that this newly found Mary is probably the daughter of first wife Mary Epes Poythress. As for the "slash" on Martha's chart, I can only say that is Martha's "style" when she comes to an issue that has a couple of options.....I seldom use that convention so I'd say that part came from Martha. But in this case, there now are no alternatives, we have the lady identified, at least according to Batte and typically he is solid gold. At this point I am somewhat lost because I never had a handle on the Muir name until now. Would you be so kind as to sketch out where that Francis and Mary P. Muir line goes (or where you THINK it goes) from here? I would very much appreciate it. Maybe we now have the opportunity to put this line together. Best, Maynard