Barbara….surely this one stands a good chance of being the aforementioned “grist mill” that came up a week or so ago? 4 Oct 1721 Sale of Corn Mill John Hardyman and his wife Henrietta Maria of Prince George County to Peter Poythres of the same county Sum: £200 Sterling Transaction: “…all that Water Grist or Corn Mill now called by the name of Hardyman’s Flower Mill…being on Powell Creek in Parish of Martin’s Brandon and 100 acres of land to the said mill belonging and on part of which the said mill was purchased by John Hardyman late of said County father to the aforesaid John Hardyman by deed dated 3 Mch 1690. Signed: John Hardeman, H. Maria Hardyman (sealed with a waxer) Wit: Fran. Eppes, Jr., Elizabeth Duke, Margaret Goodrich. (PG Wills, Deeds & Settlements 1713-28 with 1719-22 as a separate book, p. 495-7) Maynard

Sorry that I gave the wrong dates in my first message of the above caption. BPW as alerted me that the dates I gave for the lifespan of Charles David Poythress were erroneous. To clarify now: those dates were *not* mentioned in my discussion with the NC Archives when I called to order the book. Instead they were just the results of me looking with less-than-care at a listing of the various men of that name in my database, when drafting my message to this List. (I got the birth year of the photographer and the death year of his grandson, who happens to be the man on the next line of the database index, & who had the same name.) BPW also alerted me that "The CDP family picture on the Poythress website should be dated about 1889 instead of 1891" (She & I had given that 1891 date to Al Tims earlier, in her email of 2 Oct 2003 in which she wrote me "Left to right is Charles David Poythress, Charles Vance, James Sneed, John Alexander, Indiana Peru nee Twisdale, Benjamin Edison, and in front seated is Effie, circa 1891.") Would appreciate it if we can please learn what has clarified the date to be 1889 now? Thanks. BPN

This came through on the Warren County, NC website: For those looking for early ancestors, I came across this database for searching for people who came from England as indentured servants during the period 1654- 1686. It's a searchable database which also accepts wildcard searches. http://www.virtualjamestown.org/indentures/advsearch_bristol.html Barbara (BPW)

I forgot to include the webpage for the Friends of the NC Archives: http://www.ah.dcr.state.nc.us/affiliates/foa/foa.htm

I know some of y'all are probably already members of the Friends of the Archives in Virginia & other states, as I am; the annual membership contribution is a tax-deductible donation & helps these organizations purchase books & materials at their respective state archives, and sometimes to also fund (or to assist in funding) an intern position to do some special project that wouldn't otherwise get done. In these days of states cutting the budgets of their archives, such funding is a great benefit to all us researchers. For example, the Friends of the Virginia State Archives has donated to the Library of VA money to purchase all 192 rolls of microfilm of Revolutionary War Service records, plus 61 additional reels covering other Continental Army units, Continental Navy, Quartermaster & Commissary General, artillery, cavalry, etc, plus 4 additional rolls of soldiers who served in volunteer VA units 1784-1811. Members of "Friends" get a discount (10%, I believe) on purchases of items sold thru the Library Shop, including the Library's published books. Membership in the Friends of the VA State Archives has catagories of $15/yr for Individual; $25/yr for Family; $50/yr for Patron, and $600 for a Life membership; checks payable to "FVSA: The Community Foundation" mailed to FVSA, P.O.Box 4804; Richmond, VA 23220. (Again these contributions are tax deductible.) The North Carolina state library -- properly named the North Carolina Dept of Archives & History (NCDAH) -- has recently published a book, "Photographers in North Carolina: The First Century 1842-1941" that was compiled by Stephen E. Massengill. The photographers include at least one of our ancestors & his family members in a photo that BPW sent to them a couple of years ago. When I called there a few minutes ago to order the book if it included "Charles Poythress" the lady read out numerous Poythress names from the index, including not only Charles himself (who lived 1849-1924), but also the names of his wife & kids who I know were in that family photo. The review in the NC Friends' newsletter read, in part, "The 264-page biographical directory identifies more than 2,500 photographers. In the early days, a good number of those photographers were itinerants from other states. By the twentieth century, resident image-makers had become commonplace, particularly in North Carolina's largest cities." The book includes one essay tracing the evolution of photography from the early 19th to mid-20th century, and another essay that "places a selected number of early photographers in their geographic settings." For the general public, the book sells for $28 (plus shipping); Friends of the NC Archives get a 10% discount. (See bottom paragraph of this message re how to join NC's Friends) For more info on this book or their many other publications, call NCDAH's Historical Publications Section at 919-733-7442, or visit their on-line store at: http://store.yahoo.com/nc-historical-publications/ Friends of the (NC) Archives is a great organization that has done great work to support important preservation projects & fund internships for the state archives; in the face of the 22 employees lost since the early 1990s from Archives & Records such support via the Friends has been vital. Their membership catagories are $30/yr for Individual; $100/yr for Sustaining; $500 for Life Patron, and there is also listed $1,000/yr for Corporate; checks payable to Friends of the Archives, Inc; mailed to 4614 Mail Service Center; Raleigh, NC 27699-4614. (Again these contributions are tax deductible.)

Andie Harris has written to me that she has recently participated in the "My Family DNA WINN Project" by having her *maternal* DNA tested (mtDNA). In addition to the Winn line, she also descends from various other lines (Gaither, Matlock, Poythress, Weddle, Melton) so she wants to make her her participation known in case others are also having their *maternal* DNA tested. She is willing to compare results, however she did not specify which of these lines are the surnames of her mother; her mother's mother; etc on back thru her *maternal* line, so I personally do not know how valid a comparison it would be on any of the above surnames. The mtDNA *maternal* test checks a completely different part of one's DNA than the *paternal* Y-DNA. The results are *not* comparable. In our Poythress-Surname Y-DNA Study, we are testing only a tiny portion of mens' DNA that *only* men inherit from their fathers; their father's father; etc back thru the male line. If anyone reading this is separately doing a *maternal* mtDNA test, you are welcome to get in touch with Andie & find out whether you & she share any of the same maternal lines, and compare test results. Andie's full name is Marian Alice Andrea Harris. You can reach her at PooolSide@aol.com

Hello BPW & BPN. I found the following. Is this who you were looking for? ? means image is very faded and smudged on actual census page, so I am guessing. 1900 Federal Census Florence County, South Carolina, Florenct Twp. Sheet 4B, ED 37, June 9 Household (?) #274 Lines 92-94 Eason, Lucy- Head, age 42, Widow, born Oct 1857, NC, NC,NC Eason, Effied, daughter, born (?)April 1883, age 17, single, NC,NC,NC Poythress, John A., brother, (?) March 1875, age 25, machinist R.R., NC,NC,NC Take care, Elaine Thanks to BPW for bringing to my attention this household of the Poytress family in Fresno County, CA, in the 1900 Census. The husband & wife both came here to the US from England, where their parents were also born. You will note that the surname is spelled without the "h" as is consistent with the English spelling we learned of years ago from our then-List members in England. In response to BPW's question of me (copied below), no, these names do not appear in the present day Poythress family in the Fresno County & adjacent Madera County area of California. That Poythress family descends from William E. Poythress (born 1833 in Georgia) & his wife Martha J. Usher (born 1841 in Georgia), who married in 1857 in Georgia. The family also knew that William E. Poythress' forebears came to Georgia from Virginia -- hence their statement that BPW recalled, that their line was from Virginia. I found it quite interesting on the below-mentioned Census page and adjacent pages, that many many families who came from various European locations to grow fruit in that area of California. 1900 Census, 4th Judicial Township of Fresno County, CA; Supervisor's District 5, Enumeration District 11, Sheet 7-B, enumerated 13 June 1900 by A.E.Balch, Dwelling 151, Family 152 (only the following 3 people in the household/family): - Poytress, John A., head, white, male, born Mar 1871, age 29, married 6 yrs, born England, father born England, mother born England, immigrated to US in 1891, 9 yrs in US, Naturalized citizen, occupation fruit grower, 0 months unemployed, can read, can write, can speak English, owns farm, mortgaged, Farm, 132 is the number of his farm on the Census Farm Schedule - ---, Mary, wife, white, female, born Sept 1867, age 32, married 6 yrs, mother of 1 child, 1 child living, born England, father born England, mother born England, immigrated to US in 1893, 7 yrs in US, (naturalization status is a squiggle that probably means Not Applicable since she gets her status from her husband), can read, can write, can speak English - ---, Eleanor M., daughter, white, female, born July 1894, age 5, single, born California, father born England, mother born England, attended school 4 months Suggestion to BPW for finding your own John A. Poythress (son of Charles David Poythress & Indiana Peru Twisdale): I don't now recall whether you indicated to me in years gone by that he married Effie Eason in 1901, or whether I just guesstimated that marriage year from the kids' births? If indeed they weren't yet married as of June 1, 1900 (Census day) it would be worthwhile to look for him in the vicinity of her. I know Effie was daughter of Willis & Lucy. I looked briefly for their family in the 1900 Census, figuring JAP (who turned 26 in Jun 1900) *may* have been living near that family. I suspect Willis Eason was dead by then. I saw a Lucy Eason living as a boarder in another household in the town of Burgaw, Pender Co, NC (just north of Wilmington), with a younger Julia Eason and various other people there, too. Since I don't know Effie's siblings' names, I'm not sure that's the right Lucy, but if it is, you might want to browse thru that area's census pages, looking for a no-doubt-misspelled John Poythress. One other thing I found interesting, in case Effie had a brother also named Willis, is that there was a younger Willis Eason in Sumter Co, AL, in the town of Payneville, so that may be another good place to look for Effie (I didn't search on her name; I think that Willis was shown as age 32; I don't have birthdates for Effie's parents to be sure it's possible for this to be a son of theirs.) Good luck, and please keep me posted if you find him/them. 8/7/2005 Barbara Poythress Wolfe wrote: > Hi Barb, > I have been searching for all the census records on my grandfather John > Alexander Poythress. The one that I would like to find is 1900. > > And I ran across a John A. Poythress, about the same age as my JAP and > he and his wife are in Fresno, CA. They are both from England. He is a > fruit farmer. Just 'musing' if this might be any connection to the > Poythress family that farms in this area. Know they responded at one > time that they were from VA. Interesting.

I noted a few additions/clarifications when looking at the Census page online, at the Heritage Quest pages. The page is very dark, but things are more clear when the image is enlarged to 400%: The Supervisor's District is 6. The household was on Cheves Street, in Ward 2 of Florence city. The actual house number *may* be 272. The Census-taker marked through the dwelling number and family number, changing them to dwelling 350, family/household 376 (while these numbers aren't extremely clear on Lucy's line, they become clearer when looking at the few households above her on the page). Lucy Eason is listed as having had only 1 child, with 1 child living; and it is listed that she is renting. John A. Poythress is shown as single; his birth month may actually be shown as May with a short tail on the "y", though it could also be "Mar." I think Lucy is shown with a middle initial "B" (for her maiden name of Bryan), but since the Census-taker wrote over it when he was toting up his numbers it isn't terribly clear. Effie is not shown with any middle initial, though the tail of the Census-taker's toting-up notations at first made it look possible that one was there. At first I thought perhaps John A. Poythress was listed as "Boarder" but upon further magnification, I agree with Elaine's reading of it as "Brother" <g> Maybe "Boarder" is what the Census-taker intended to write down. I am inserting those additions/clarifications below. 1900 Federal Census Florence County, South Carolina, Florence Twp. Ward 2 of Florence city, Sheet 4B, ED 37, Supervisor's District 6, June 9 Dwelling 350, Family/Household 376 Lines 92-94 Cheves Street, house number may be 272: Eason, Lucy B., Head, age 42, Widow, born Oct 1857, had 1 child, 1 child living, NC, NC, NC, renting --- , Effie, Daughter, born Apr 1883, age 17, single, NC, NC, NC Poythress, John A., Brother, Mar (or possibly May) 1875, age 25, single, machinist R.R., NC, NC, NC (Note: I know from BPW that he family records show he was actually born 19 Jun 1874, so his age is correctly shown as 25, but whoever gave the Census-taker his birth month & year was off a bit)

Aw Shucks, twarn't nothin', mam....but I always love hearing from you. Cuddin Maynard How'd you know? You are just a wealth of information and I thank you for sharing it. May your tribe increase! Cuzzin Andie Kailua HI 96734

Elaine, how great -- Yes, it looks to me like you found them. Guess the Census-taker wrote down "brother" due to mis-info given or received <g> Seems like "boyfriend" or "fiance" of daughter may have been more appropriate <g> Thanks so much for your quick help on this. Denver145@aol.com wrote: > Hello BPW & BPN. I found the following. Is this who you were looking for? > > ? means image is very faded and smudged on actual census page, so I am > guessing. > 1900 Federal Census > Florence County, South Carolina, Florenct Twp. Sheet 4B, ED 37, June 9 > Household (?) #274 Lines 92-94 > Eason, Lucy- Head, age 42, Widow, born Oct 1857, NC, NC,NC > Eason, Effied, daughter, born (?)April 1883, age 17, single, NC,NC,NC > Poythress, John A., brother, (?) March 1875, age 25, machinist R.R., > NC,NC,NC > > Take care, > Elaine

In a message dated 8/7/2005 6:12:56 AM Hawaiian Standard Time, c.s.townsend@sbcglobal.net writes: The one that I think is great is the Carson Lumidome 3X acrylic magnifier at $ 8.95. For those of us with fading eyesight and/or difficult documents to read, this one is a jewel...a "half globe" that rests directly on the paper and the light admitting sides illuminate the object to be viewed/read. They're advertised for viewing coins, stamps, etc. but they work just as well on print and difficult text from genealogical documents. How'd you know? You are just a wealth of information and I thank you for sharing it. May your tribe increase! Cuzzin Andie Kailua HI 96734

Thanks to BPW for bringing to my attention this household of the Poytress family in Fresno County, CA, in the 1900 Census. The husband & wife both came here to the US from England, where their parents were also born. You will note that the surname is spelled without the "h" as is consistent with the English spelling we learned of years ago from our then-List members in England. In response to BPW's question of me (copied below), no, these names do not appear in the present day Poythress family in the Fresno County & adjacent Madera County area of California. That Poythress family descends from William E. Poythress (born 1833 in Georgia) & his wife Martha J. Usher (born 1841 in Georgia), who married in 1857 in Georgia. The family also knew that William E. Poythress' forebears came to Georgia from Virginia -- hence their statement that BPW recalled, that their line was from Virginia. I found it quite interesting on the below-mentioned Census page and adjacent pages, that many many families who came from various European locations to grow fruit in that area of California. 1900 Census, 4th Judicial Township of Fresno County, CA; Supervisor's District 5, Enumeration District 11, Sheet 7-B, enumerated 13 June 1900 by A.E.Balch, Dwelling 151, Family 152 (only the following 3 people in the household/family): - Poytress, John A., head, white, male, born Mar 1871, age 29, married 6 yrs, born England, father born England, mother born England, immigrated to US in 1891, 9 yrs in US, Naturalized citizen, occupation fruit grower, 0 months unemployed, can read, can write, can speak English, owns farm, mortgaged, Farm, 132 is the number of his farm on the Census Farm Schedule - ---, Mary, wife, white, female, born Sept 1867, age 32, married 6 yrs, mother of 1 child, 1 child living, born England, father born England, mother born England, immigrated to US in 1893, 7 yrs in US, (naturalization status is a squiggle that probably means Not Applicable since she gets her status from her husband), can read, can write, can speak English - ---, Eleanor M., daughter, white, female, born July 1894, age 5, single, born California, father born England, mother born England, attended school 4 months Suggestion to BPW for finding your own John A. Poythress (son of Charles David Poythress & Indiana Peru Twisdale): I don't now recall whether you indicated to me in years gone by that he married Effie Eason in 1901, or whether I just guesstimated that marriage year from the kids' births? If indeed they weren't yet married as of June 1, 1900 (Census day) it would be worthwhile to look for him in the vicinity of her. I know Effie was daughter of Willis & Lucy. I looked briefly for their family in the 1900 Census, figuring JAP (who turned 26 in Jun 1900) *may* have been living near that family. I suspect Willis Eason was dead by then. I saw a Lucy Eason living as a boarder in another household in the town of Burgaw, Pender Co, NC (just north of Wilmington), with a younger Julia Eason and various other people there, too. Since I don't know Effie's siblings' names, I'm not sure that's the right Lucy, but if it is, you might want to browse thru that area's census pages, looking for a no-doubt-misspelled John Poythress. One other thing I found interesting, in case Effie had a brother also named Willis, is that there was a younger Willis Eason in Sumter Co, AL, in the town of Payneville, so that may be another good place to look for Effie (I didn't search on her name; I think that Willis was shown as age 32; I don't have birthdates for Effie's parents to be sure it's possible for this to be a son of theirs.) Good luck, and please keep me posted if you find him/them. 8/7/2005 Barbara Poythress Wolfe wrote: > Hi Barb, > I have been searching for all the census records on my grandfather John > Alexander Poythress. The one that I would like to find is 1900. > > And I ran across a John A. Poythress, about the same age as my JAP and > he and his wife are in Fresno, CA. They are both from England. He is a > fruit farmer. Just 'musing' if this might be any connection to the > Poythress family that farms in this area. Know they responded at one > time that they were from VA. Interesting.

At the bottom of this page are a number clickable items, articles by Barbara Vines Litte on VA sources available: http://genealogy.about.com/sitesearch.htm?terms=Virginia&SUName=genealog y&TopNode=3285&type=1

These people had a booth at a genealogy lecture I attended yesterday. The web site advertises over 500 fun and useful items for genealogists. To be sure, a ton of it is pure kitch but there were several useful items. The one that I think is great is the Carson Lumidome 3X acrylic magnifier at $ 8.95. For those of us with fading eyesight and/or difficult documents to read, this one is a jewel...a "half globe" that rests directly on the paper and the light admitting sides illuminate the object to be viewed/read. They're advertised for viewing coins, stamps, etc. but they work just as well on print and difficult text from genealogical documents. I only bought one for myself and on the way home thought of what a great Christmas stocking stuffer they would make for kids too..so I went on line and bought a couple more. (I didn't look forever but I did check a few sites and I think the 8.95 is about as good as one will do). Maynard

Thanks Maynard, My grandson loves to play with a magnifing glass. Resting it right on the paper is good to. It is sometimes hard to get it at the correct angle when holding it. sheryl -----Original Message----- These people had a booth at a genealogy lecture I attended yesterday. The web site advertises over 500 fun and useful items for genealogists. To be sure, a ton of it is pure kitch but there were several useful items. The one that I think is great is the Carson Lumidome 3X acrylic magnifier at $ 8.95. For those of us with fading eyesight and/or difficult documents to read, this one is a jewel...a "half globe" that rests directly on the paper and the light admitting sides illuminate the object to be viewed/read. They're advertised for viewing coins, stamps, etc. but they work just as well on print and difficult text from genealogical documents. I only bought one for myself and on the way home thought of what a great Christmas stocking stuffer they would make for kids too..so I went on line and bought a couple more. (I didn't look forever but I did check a few sites and I think the 8.95 is about as good as one will do). Maynard ==== POYTHRESS Mailing List ==== The Poythress Genealogy List is hosted by RootsWeb. To learn more about Rootsweb please visit http://www.rootsweb.com/

Thanks BPN for the heads up on the Meridian Star Obit. Since so many of us of the James Speed Poythress line are scattered across the country these updates are appreciated. Take care, Elaine Thanks to a good friend, I have learned Sunday night that an obituary appeared on Sunday 24 July 2005 in the Meridian Star newspaper, Meridian, Mississippi, for Linda J. Poythress. She's survived by husband Ronnie Poythress (Ronald Wayne Poythress, who is son of Robert Lee Poythress, by his wife Drew Black, I understand -- in the James Speed Poythress line). Linda & Ronnie have a son & a daughter, both of whom survive her. I'm told that Linda Poythress was 50; was a clerical employee with Peavey Electronics (a large employer in Meridian); and a member of Poplar Springs Drive Baptist Church. She died Saturday, 23 July at Rush Foundation Hospital. Stephens Funeral Home is handling the arrangements. Visitation will be Monday 5-8pm at the funeral home. The funeral will be on Tuesday at 10am at the funeral home chapel; burial will be in Magnolia Cemetery.

Thanks to a good friend, I have learned Sunday night that an obituary appeared on Sunday 24 July 2005 in the Meridian Star newspaper, Meridian, Mississippi, for Linda J. Poythress. She's survived by husband Ronnie Poythress (Ronald Wayne Poythress, who is son of Robert Lee Poythress, by his wife Drew Black, I understand -- in the James Speed Poythress line). Linda & Ronnie have a son & a daughter, both of whom survive her. I'm told that Linda Poythress was 50; was a clerical employee with Peavey Electronics (a large employer in Meridian); and a member of Poplar Springs Drive Baptist Church. She died Saturday, 23 July at Rush Foundation Hospital. Stephens Funeral Home is handling the arrangements. Visitation will be Monday 5-8pm at the funeral home. The funeral will be on Tuesday at 10am at the funeral home chapel; burial will be in Magnolia Cemetery.

I would love to have a copy of your CD and will be happy to pay any costs involved. (I will take it to the San Antonio Genealogical Library--we have a wonderful stand-alone building-- for others to puruse.) However, I do have a couple of questions/suggestions. If you quote Boddie, keep in mind that there are many errors/corrections/omissions in his works. They should really not be construed as "errors" since he did the very best he could with the information that he had, and did provide us with a basic work to "follow up on", but there are several incorrect listings regarding the Wynnes, Bells and other families. Also, could you, please, note that we do not know when/where Francis Poythress, husband of Mary, died and THEREFORE can not verify if Mary was the mother of all of Robert Wynne's children? I really do look forward to your postings. Thank you for sharing. Deloris Wynne-Riley -----Original Message----- From: John M. Poythress [mailto:brerfox@bellsouth.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 6:45 PM To: POYTHRESS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Database CD For some time now I have felt a need to capture in one place the Poythress and related family information we have accumulated over the past years. For one thing, nothing new has been posted to the website for several years..and during that interim many of you have made great contributions of citations of legal records, copies of histories, etc. I have accumulated quite a pile myself. Over the past few months I have been trying to capture all of this information on a single CD-ROM to share with those of you that I think would be interested in the information. I make no claim to having it "all." However, I likely have a ton of it and it's also likely that I have some material unavailable (or at least "unpublished" on the listserver) before. There are no adverse copyright implications on any of this material. It is either public domain or constitutes fair use, largely based on the two principles that it is legitimate academic research and second, that no one is either selling the stuff or "chilling" anybody else's market. While we are all hugely grateful to fellow-contributors, I have made no attempt to claim or assign "credit" for any of this work and likewise I don't want to create any unrealistic expectation that it is a well-organized "study." It is simply a record of what has been accumulated that I have in my "storage." My purposes in wanting to share this information with you are several: 1) perhaps I can add to your own information, 2) I hope that each of you will be so kind as to forward me corrections and or missing pieces (or whole chunks) that I may have missed and that YOU have..and 3) of course, as these CDs get distributed among you a database will exist which I hope might fall into the hands of some future family historian and save him or her many, many hours of work. While some of the information is inclusive of other states the concentration on purpose is directed to Virginia, a topic on which we all share a common interest. Below is a brief description of some of the "headings": ^ Batte...complete, the text, Diana's "lines", and scans of every one of Batte's 205 index cards on Poythress courtesy of Ted Kingsbury. ^ Boddie.complete..all "scanned"..I will add at this point that when I refer to scans you may expect to have to view these through a "viewer" such as MS Photoeditor and magnify them either once or twice for reading. And some of the scans get a bit ragged. Documents and pages this old don't scan perfectly..or even well..and, as you all know, I'm not especially technically hip. ^ Census (all states).essentially I used Elaine's work. ^ CSA service lists ^ Dr. W. B. Hall on Poythress..scanned in total. ^ Illustrations, various..thanks to all contributors. ^ Individual wills and estate administrations (69 of them)..chronologically. ^ Poythress land patents..both direct grants/patents and the Poythress references in other patents..arranged chronologically. ^ the Swem Index...essentially this amounts to scans of all the Poythress references from the various publications covered by the Swem indexes. This is a huge number of scans, several hundred pages as a guess. ^ VA databases BY COUNTY. What I did here was to take all of the "runs" of various specific documents, facts, etc., re-cut the pie "by counties" and restacked them chronologically. ^ VA files & folders..this is quite lengthy but is an assortment of documents not especially large enough for "headings" of their own..Bristol Parish Records, the Maitland Bible, William Byrd Diary entries, Rev. War Bounty Grants, etc. All I need to mail you a CD (no charge) is a snail mail address..the "expense" related to this project is minimal at the most and I am delighted if it will bring any information here-to-now unknown to any of you. Just send me your snail mail (if you wish privately to me at brerfox@bellsouth.net ) and a CD will go out to you within only a day or so. On a final note, I'll comment again to the effect that some of this material is far from "complete" (although I tried to mention it when ends were left dangling) and what I would really love to have from you is information supplementing what you will see (I hope) right off is that is missing and that YOU may have. A good example of this is the patents. They are in several "forms": full text, abstracts, surveyor talk, etc. I would like to get them all into "full text" form and if you have such on any one or more just email the information to me and I will bring the "master CD" up to date. When all of you have gone through this process it will be a simple matter to burn another set of CD's and mail out the revisions. CDs cost about a nickel so this is not a federal case. And..also, don't forget that many of you will have full and complete records of a number of documents that well may not even be included here. Obviously, those are very important to the group..sent to me they will be included on the master CD. Be waiting to hear from you. Best, Maynard ==== POYTHRESS Mailing List ==== Poythress Genealogy Research Web www.poythress.net

Julie, I would like a copy also. Let me know the cost & I will be glad to pay you. Judy Speed Scruggs > > From: "Julie Cabitto" <juliemarie@worldnet.att.net> > Date: 2005/07/20 Wed PM 08:28:45 EDT > To: POYTHRESS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Newman Dortch -James Speed chancery case > > I got the Chancery case today, finally! Newman Dortch is supposed to be father-in-law of Sarah Poythress married to William Archer Dortch. > > I was bummed that there was no mention of any children or grand children for Newman. Here's info that may interest some of you. According to this chancery case, filed Feb 1826: James Speed had four children: > 1-Martha Speed married to Nathaniel Moss > 2- Mary Speed married to Lewis Dortch > 3- Sally Speed married to Newman Dortch > 4- Elizabeth Speed. > > Note: Lewis Dortch and Newman Dortch were brothers. Lewis and Mary Speed were not in VA in April 1826 when they were summoned to court. Sarah Ann Speed was referred to as Sally. Newman Dortch and Sally Speed moved into James Speed's house while he was still living in Sept 1821. "Courthouse Rd" ran through part of the property was. Not sure where that was. So unfortunately was not able to find out any Poythress info from this case. If you are interested in a transcribed copy when I finish it, let me know. I can also scan a copy of the plat. I do not see at first read through, a resolution to the case. I ordered some deed indexes. I plan to follow the paper trail of this land to see if any Dortch or Poythress inherited this house in case there may be a family cemetery on the old homestead. There is no mention of James Speed's wife, so I am guessing she may have died long before he did. It's pretty cool to see signatures of a gr....grandpa Newman Dortch in the 1820's :) > Love, > Julie > > > ==== POYTHRESS Mailing List ==== > Poythress Genealogy Research Web > www.poythress.net > >

Thanks Julie. Cheers, Barbara