Maynard and Katherine: might as well jump in at this point and point out that there were two John Wall families in early Brunswick County. My line is from "Colonel" John Wall who lived down near Fort Christiana, and later Lawrenceville. The other John Wall line lived in the northern part of the county on or near Waqua Creek. This last is - I think Katherine's line of Walls (see, I've been paying attention <g>). So far I have not been able to find any real evidence that they were related, but "feel" with pretty high confidence that they were - perhaps the two elder John Walls were as close as cousins. The two lines of Walls are very hard to distinguish, but with practice and correlation in time one can begin to determine the difference between the two - for most records. Until the researcher has obtained this familiarity, though, it is very easy to confuse the two families. Lou -----Original Message----- From: John M. Poythress [mailto:brerfox@bellsouth.net] Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 2:22 PM To: POYTHRESS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: brunswick co road reports 1732-1746 Hi Katherine.....thanks for thinking about us on the Brunswick 1733 road order. We have that one (and many more); including, in fact a whole CD-ROM full of VA Poythress data which includes some Wall entries and much more. While our list server is operative (it's on Rootsweb), our webpage (poythress.net) is unfortunately a "read only" proposition and nothing new has been posted in the last couple of years. This comes about because we are list-meisterless. In the meanwhile, I have collected (I hope)all the information on the website plus digitizing much, much more: Wm&Mary Quarterly entries, the Swem Index, etc. etc. I provide a free service in which I simply keep an active file on my hard drive and burn a copy CD on request and mail one to anyone furnishing me a snailmail address. I would be happy to mail you one if you wish and you can send me your snail mail directly > brerfox@bellsouth.net < without having to post it on the internet. There is no charge at all and I'm happy to handle this. Maynard P. S. I'm assuming you have checked the Wall entry that IS on the webpage site. Click on Studies, Timelines and Charts in the left hand column of page 1. When you get to this page the second entry is a fairly comprehensive study of the Wall-Poythress connections done by one of our group, Lou Poole. -----Original Message----- From: katherine russell [mailto:kjrussell@clearwire.net] Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 11:29 AM To: POYTHRESS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: brunswick co road reports 1732-1746 & june 1733 O.S.,Page 26 Henry Cook is appointed supervisor of a road from Capp Poytris's plantation on fountain's Creek to Henry Wych's ford over Meherrin and......all the male laboring tyths between the Cane branch and the G.....swamp and that James Parham, John Clyburn, John Walker, Thomas Busby, Thomas Burnett,and Francis Steed assist in clearing the same.. April 1733 (typed as 1773 but with all the 1733 records) John Wall gent is appointed surveyor of a briddle road from his Mill to Chamberlains Ford and that the tyths of Henry Fox, John Irby John Chapman George Brewer, William Linch, Joseph Heathrock and his own assist in clearing the same.. I did a quick search on the list and didn't see these posted..if they are and I missed them, let me know and I won't continue. I don't know if I even have a connection to the Poythress line, only the Wall's listed here. Katherine Russell ==== POYTHRESS Mailing List ==== Poythress Genealogy Research Web www.poythress.net ==== POYTHRESS Mailing List ==== Poythress Genealogy Research Web www.poythress.net

Hi Katherine.....thanks for thinking about us on the Brunswick 1733 road order. We have that one (and many more); including, in fact a whole CD-ROM full of VA Poythress data which includes some Wall entries and much more. While our list server is operative (it's on Rootsweb), our webpage (poythress.net) is unfortunately a "read only" proposition and nothing new has been posted in the last couple of years. This comes about because we are list-meisterless. In the meanwhile, I have collected (I hope)all the information on the website plus digitizing much, much more: Wm&Mary Quarterly entries, the Swem Index, etc. etc. I provide a free service in which I simply keep an active file on my hard drive and burn a copy CD on request and mail one to anyone furnishing me a snailmail address. I would be happy to mail you one if you wish and you can send me your snail mail directly > brerfox@bellsouth.net < without having to post it on the internet. There is no charge at all and I'm happy to handle this. Maynard P. S. I'm assuming you have checked the Wall entry that IS on the webpage site. Click on Studies, Timelines and Charts in the left hand column of page 1. When you get to this page the second entry is a fairly comprehensive study of the Wall-Poythress connections done by one of our group, Lou Poole. -----Original Message----- From: katherine russell [mailto:kjrussell@clearwire.net] Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 11:29 AM To: POYTHRESS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: brunswick co road reports 1732-1746 & june 1733 O.S.,Page 26 Henry Cook is appointed supervisor of a road from Capp Poytris's plantation on fountain's Creek to Henry Wych's ford over Meherrin and......all the male laboring tyths between the Cane branch and the G.....swamp and that James Parham, John Clyburn, John Walker, Thomas Busby, Thomas Burnett,and Francis Steed assist in clearing the same.. April 1733 (typed as 1773 but with all the 1733 records) John Wall gent is appointed surveyor of a briddle road from his Mill to Chamberlains Ford and that the tyths of Henry Fox, John Irby John Chapman George Brewer, William Linch, Joseph Heathrock and his own assist in clearing the same.. I did a quick search on the list and didn't see these posted..if they are and I missed them, let me know and I won't continue. I don't know if I even have a connection to the Poythress line, only the Wall's listed here. Katherine Russell ==== POYTHRESS Mailing List ==== Poythress Genealogy Research Web www.poythress.net

Here is my email to the Porteus page on GenForum. It contains the "order." Barbara, despite the circumstantial evidence on behalf of Robert Poythress, you can check the Porteus/Porteous page on GenForum and discover that the colonial VA woods were full of these Porteus guys. Taking the semi-logical tack that a Congressional reporter might be expected to render a proper name a little more carefully and/or correctly than the average courthouse clerk...in addition to the known existence of Porteuses, I'm inclined to not try to lay claim to this one without more evidence. I wish one of those Porteus guys would answer me. BTW, Crystal thinks it's Robert Poythress and she's the resident expert on Ft. Christianna albeit I think she would also admit the evidence is both circumstantial and "in the face" of the court document. Anyway: This is an interesting document for the Porteus crowd...I'm interested in knowing if this is a known connection for you or if anyone has any suspicion that he might be something other than a Porteus; i. e. as in possibily being a Poythress. Thanks. Document 37 ERECTION OF FORT CHRISTANNA [Executive Journals, III, 375, 376] _______________________________ At a Council held at the Capitol the 15th day of October 1714 Present The Honorable Alexander Spotswood her Majesties Lieutenant Governor etc. James Blair Philip Ludwell John Smith John Lewis William Cocke and Robert Porteus Esquires * * * * * * * The Governor acquainted the Council that pursuant to the Trust reposed in him by the General Asembly he had for the better securing the Frontiers erected a Fort at Christanna on the South side of Maherine River, and laid out a Tract of land on that side for the habitation of the Saponie, Occoneechee, Stukanox and Tottero Indians, and on the opposite Side of the River another Tract for the Nottoways and Maherines who had represented to him the impossibility of their being able to Subsist on the Land intended for them in the fork of James River, by reason of its barrenness, of which he himself had been an eye witness during his late Progress: That for the Security of the Fort of Christanna (40) he had appointed a Captain and twelve men to reside there, who with a proportionable number of the Indians are to performe the Ranging Service between Roanoak River and Appomattox and that part of the Countrey which has been hitherto most exposed to the incursions of the Tuscaruro Indians intirely Secured. And that for the ease of the Country, he had disbanded the Rangers of Prince George's County and reduced the number of those other Rangers who are continued in pay in other parts of the Frontiers to the number of Six in each Troop. Crystal.... This would fit our Robert Poythress (Batte # 28) as he would be 24 at the time. At his death he wills (1743 will) considerable property to half dozen children. The land he wills looks to be in part inherited from his brother Peter (Batte # 27) so it's likely that by the time of this Executive Council order he would have been a man of property....and the "esquire" would imply also a man of education (even if not technically a lawyer which "esquire" often, but not always, meant). Both Robert and his brother Peter were constantly traders, translators and negotiators with most of the tribes that wound up in Ft. Christiana. Robert Poythress would have been a natural to have been sent by the council but it strikes me that OUR first preference in the genealogical matter should be to take the council at their word; i. e. the guy's name really was Porteus. Do you have any other "linkage" between this man and the Fort at Christianna? How would you make the odds on Robert Porteus being Robert Poythress? (You might want to slip over to GenForum and give it Porteus and/or Porteous....there seem to be quite a few of them, a couple from Gloucester County, VA that might be candidates with better credentials than ours to be this man..and they're actually named Porteus <g>. Maynard

Thanks Katherine; we certainly welcome any & all "Poytris" etc-spellings & are glad to see this addition. Barbara

& june 1733 O.S.,Page 26 Henry Cook is appointed supervisor of a road from Capp Poytris's plantation on fountain's Creek to Henry Wych's ford over Meherrin and......all the male laboring tyths between the Cane branch and the G.....swamp and that James Parham, John Clyburn, John Walker, Thomas Busby, Thomas Burnett,and Francis Steed assist in clearing the same.. April 1733 (typed as 1773 but with all the 1733 records) John Wall gent is appointed surveyor of a briddle road from his Mill to Chamberlains Ford and that the tyths of Henry Fox, John Irby John Chapman George Brewer, William Linch, Joseph Heathrock and his own assist in clearing the same.. I did a quick search on the list and didn't see these posted..if they are and I missed them, let me know and I won't continue. I don't know if I even have a connection to the Poythress line, only the Wall's listed here. Katherine Russell

Oops, Katherine, I should have said NOT knowledgeable. Maynard -----Original Message----- From: John M. Poythress [mailto:brerfox@bellsouth.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 5:38 PM To: POYTHRESS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: Poythress, Wall, Hardiman and Pryor family's Katherine, when I answered your original email I didn't have this one before me. Your information tallies exactly with our group's knowledge of Francis Poythress the circuit rider, educator, etc. The Tennessee and Illinois connections are not ones about which I'm knowledgeable. Ordinarily, I take the presence of a Hardyman or Hardiman as a dead ringer that the Poythress family is involved. However, I have a hard time seeing any of this family in Illinois early on....although I'll quickly say I haven't done any checking. I hope someone else on the wire can give us some hints on this one. Maynard -----Original Message----- From: katherine russell [mailto:kjrussell@clearwire.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 6:35 PM To: POYTHRESS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Poythress, Wall, Hardiman and Pryor family's A few days ago I decided to look into a Susannah Poythress Pryor who I found in the 1799 Jessamine co tax list a few years ago, as the possible mother for my John Pryor b. abt 1770-80. Her brother was Francis Poythress who was a Methodist circuit rider preacher sent out from Baltimore in 1776 to KY. I don't know Susannah's husband first name, but it may be Joseph. A Joseph Pryor lived by John Pryor's wife family (Aquilla Sherrill) in the 1780's Greene co Tn (NC side), on the Nolichucky river. As I look into this Poythress family, I find a connection to my Wall family (Henry Wall/Overby family). I also have Hardiman as a first name. Hardiman Johnson m. Minerva Everman. The Everman's were from Pendleton co VA. I can't remember off hand about the Johnson's. Minerva and "Hardy" were married in IL. Minerva Everman's mother was Elizabeth Wall, granddaughter of Henry Wall. I don't think Rev. Francis Poythress ever married, because it was unusual at the time for circuit riders to be married. He also moved in with Susannah Poythress Pryor who was a widow in 1799,. He died 1818 "insane". Susannah can be found in the 1810 and 20 Jessamine co census. Both she is over the age of 45. I would guess their births between 1730-50. In 1776 Francis is described as educated and a gentleman of means, as well as powerfully built and short. The 1799 Jessamine tax records has others in it that I speculate are related to my family and the Pryor family at a later date. Does anyone know anything about Susannah and Francis Poythress? Thank you, Katherine Russell ==== POYTHRESS Mailing List ==== Poythress Genealogy Research Web www.poythress.net ==== POYTHRESS Mailing List ==== Poythress Genealogy Research Web www.poythress.net

Katherine, when I answered your original email I didn't have this one before me. Your information tallies exactly with our group's knowledge of Francis Poythress the circuit rider, educator, etc. The Tennessee and Illinois connections are not ones about which I'm knowledgeable. Ordinarily, I take the presence of a Hardyman or Hardiman as a dead ringer that the Poythress family is involved. However, I have a hard time seeing any of this family in Illinois early on....although I'll quickly say I haven't done any checking. I hope someone else on the wire can give us some hints on this one. Maynard -----Original Message----- From: katherine russell [mailto:kjrussell@clearwire.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 6:35 PM To: POYTHRESS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Poythress, Wall, Hardiman and Pryor family's A few days ago I decided to look into a Susannah Poythress Pryor who I found in the 1799 Jessamine co tax list a few years ago, as the possible mother for my John Pryor b. abt 1770-80. Her brother was Francis Poythress who was a Methodist circuit rider preacher sent out from Baltimore in 1776 to KY. I don't know Susannah's husband first name, but it may be Joseph. A Joseph Pryor lived by John Pryor's wife family (Aquilla Sherrill) in the 1780's Greene co Tn (NC side), on the Nolichucky river. As I look into this Poythress family, I find a connection to my Wall family (Henry Wall/Overby family). I also have Hardiman as a first name. Hardiman Johnson m. Minerva Everman. The Everman's were from Pendleton co VA. I can't remember off hand about the Johnson's. Minerva and "Hardy" were married in IL. Minerva Everman's mother was Elizabeth Wall, granddaughter of Henry Wall. I don't think Rev. Francis Poythress ever married, because it was unusual at the time for circuit riders to be married. He also moved in with Susannah Poythress Pryor who was a widow in 1799,. He died 1818 "insane". Susannah can be found in the 1810 and 20 Jessamine co census. Both she is over the age of 45. I would guess their births between 1730-50. In 1776 Francis is described as educated and a gentleman of means, as well as powerfully built and short. The 1799 Jessamine tax records has others in it that I speculate are related to my family and the Pryor family at a later date. Does anyone know anything about Susannah and Francis Poythress? Thank you, Katherine Russell ==== POYTHRESS Mailing List ==== Poythress Genealogy Research Web www.poythress.net

Hi Katherine (or Bruce)....I'm a little confused as to who sent the message but the answer is the same in any case and I regret that it's something of a lame answer. I would be hopeful that someone else could put some red meat on these bones. First, as a sidebar issue, that's an intriguing proposition you have with respect to the possibility of John Pryor being the husband of Susanna Poythress Prior/Pryor of Jessamine County, KY. There is nothing wrong with the chronology of John and Susanna fitting this scenario. When you first said "Susanna Poythress may be the mother of my John Pryor" I assume you meant "wife" in this possibility. John Pryor's original grant of bounty land can be viewed on the KY Sec of State's page at: http://apps.sos.ky.gov/land/military/revwar/Revdetail.asp?Type=v&warrant =0126.0 Also viewable are the individual surveys by clicking on the four plot numbers below the introductory text. Unfortunately, these are pretty close to illegible. Pryor's land became 4 1000 acre plots to comprise his 4000 acre grant. I struggled with trying to read the surveys and didn't have much luck. The few legible references are to names like "Muddy River" and slashed Oak trees which no longer exist. Also, the land was surveyed (and presumably claimed) 1786-1789 and Jessamine County was not formed until 1798 so my search to pick "Jessamine" out of any of the text was unsuccessful. That would at least have given us the proximity angle for Susanna and John being in the same county. Mitigating against this Susanna/John scenario, you have Susanna as a widow in the Jessamine County, KY 1810 census while in that same 1810 census is a John Prior in the adjoining Mercer County. This John Prior has a household of a male 26-45 (possibly him), a female 20-25 (his wife?), 1 male each under 10, 10-16, 16-26 and one female under 10. Copies of these grant and survey documents can be ordered from the Sec of State and may be more legible. My guess is that a link between John and Susanna will be difficult to prove but is likely to remain intriguing in any case. Back to Wade Prior/Pryor: if he was born in Columbia Co., GA 1798 then of course his family was already there. Pryors living in Richmond (or later Columbia)counties would be quite probable. At the time, Georgia was only a band of some 6 or 8 parishes along the southern bank of the Savannah R. The arrivals from VA would be in one of these parishes and Columbia would be the northernmost and all the more logical. At the time, the rest of that land between the basins of the Savannah and the Altamaha Rivers had yet to be "bought" from the Creek nation. As for the Augusta Chronicle "mail being held at post office" list, those things were quite common but this one seems to fit with the time schedule for the family. Letters waiting at the Waynesborough post office in 1819 also looks timely. Rebecca would likely be a child or young adult and likely also could read at least some (if someone was writing her a letter). Wade marrying a Rebecca Poythress would also be unremarkable. The woods were full of them; while I don't have a single "Rebecca" in my records that's not remarkable either. Other than appearances in the census under their maiden names as children, many of the women just get historically lost if they are in a census before 1850. It's worth remarking that Rebecca's letter was addressed to her in Waynesborough as that was (and is) the county seat of BURKE CO. which is SOUTH of Richmond County and even further south than Columbia County which itself is north of Richmond Co. This would place Rebecca right in the middle of where most of the Poythresses lived (Burke/Screven), further tending to confirm her being born in Burke, marrying in Columbia....and then, APPARENTLY heading west with her family. I say heading west because Harris County, GA is on the east bank of the Chattahoochee River, precisely on the opposite side of the state and that is the family in the Harris County 1830 census, just across the river from Alabama, where so many of that family begin to show up shortly thereafter. Unless they had an intention to keep moving west all along, the most common reason to move to Harris County in 1830 was to plant cotton. That river bottom was prime cotton land and the farmers went at it full bore. There is a mid-1800's newspaper clipping recognizing that "the last" tree in Harris County had been cut down to make way for cotton. Those people literally planted the stuff up to the porches and windows of their homes. And finally at least some of the Prior/Pryor crowd seems to end up in Texas. Just as further speculation, that's about the time that numerous Georgians were organizing and moving west to fight in the Texas War for Independence (1832-36)and be given Texas bounty land as a reward. (for a piece of trivia, the original Lone Star flag was sewn by one Joanna Troutman in Roberta, Georgia (about 25 mi. west of Macon). Said Roberta presented the flag to the Georgia volunteers marching through mid-GA on their way to the war in Texas. Some critical historians say there is no proof of this. However, it can be said with certainty that in the later 1800's a bunch of Texas veterans of that war came to GA, dug Joanna up and transplanted her in Austin, complete with a 30 ft. monument citing her flag sewing. Texas soldiers are not known for frivolous pursuits; I'm inclined to take their word for it. <g> ) What a shame that knowing the names of Rebecca's two sisters Nancy Ann and Eliza doesn't give us anything to go on. My look at census records say there are a few "F's" to fit the bill but unfortunately until 1850 the census only contains the names of the heads of households. Any try to make 3 sisters fit looks to me like only a shot in the dark. Given our lack of information, I'm inclined to the somewhat superficial thought that Wade Pryor m. Rebecca Poythress (likely of Burke County), moved the family to Harris County and subsequently later generations moved further west....and that's about it for the relationship between the two families. Am I missing something here? Maynard -----Original Message----- From: katherine russell [mailto:kjrussell@clearwire.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 10:39 PM To: POYTHRESS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Rebecca Poythress and Wade Pryor (Susannah Poythress) I found this message posted a couple of years ago. It's believed by other researching my Pryors that they moved to Georgia or awhile...plus I have an unknown connection to the Wade family. My mothers land was "given" to the Wade family in IL. She was told they were a "shirttale relation" Plus I had already speculated that my Pryors were related to the Phillip Pryor family, as they have relations I think in Overton co Tn, close to my Pryors. Looks like Susannah Poythress may be the mother of my John Pryor. Katherine Russell am digging out information about the Prior/Pryor family in hopes that it will lead to locations or associations with persons who might be connected with the Poythress family in hopes of finding out more about Rebecca Poythress and her sisters, Nancy Ann and Eliza. Wade Haden Prior/Pryor was born abt. 1798 in Columbia Co. Georgia, and died 25 Aug. 1863 in Tennille, Pike County, Alabama. He was the son of HADEN PRIOR and ELIZABETH WADE. He married REBECCA POYTHRESS 4 March 1829 in Columbia County Georgia. NOTE: Columbia County, GA. borders the Savannah River and is near Burke County. Columbia Co. was formed in 1790 from Richmond Co. which borders Burke County. Rebecca was born about 1805 (1850 Census, Pike Co. Miss) in Georgia, and died 26 Dec 1871 in Tennille, Pike Co. Alabama. The children of Wade Haden Prior and Rebecca Poythress are: 1. Edward Haden Prior.......born 26 Dec. 1829, and died Unknown 2. Elizabeth Ann Prior........born 12 Nov 1831 and died Unknown 3. Wade Haden Prior, Jr. .. born 8 Nov. 1833 in Harris Co. Georgia, and died 18 Feb 1893 in Carthage, Panola Co., Texas. He married Elvira Ophelia Williams 26 Sep.1860 in Macon, Alabama. She was born 17 April 1831 in Edgefield, S.C. and died 9 Nov. 1911 in Carthage, Panola Co. Texas. 4. Thomas Jefferson Prior...born 8 Jan 1836, and died Unknown 5. Sarah Jane Prior ..... born 28 Dec. 1837, and died Unknown 6. John Thomas Prior ....born 8 Mar 1840, and died Unknown 7. James Garrett Prior....born 21 Feb 1843 and died Unknown 8. Robert B. Prior....born 29 Dec. 1845, and died Unknown 9. William Wakefield Prior....born 9 Sep. 1849 and died Unknown. 10. Prior child died Unknown. NOTE: The Wade Prior family is found in the 1830 Census in Harris County, Georgia. (from the Index for the 1830 Census for Harris Co. Ga.......listed as WAID PRIOR) Wade Haden Pryor was the son of Haden Pryor and Elizabeth Wade. HADEN PRYOR was born between 1745 - 1750 in Granville, NC., and died before Jul 1805 in Columbia County, Georgia. He was the son of PHILLIP PRIOR and ANN HADEN. ELIZABETH WADE was born in Granville. NC, and died after 1820 in Columbia County Georgia. She was the daughter of JOHN WADE. Children of Elizabeth Wade and Haden Pryor are: (Not in order) 1. Archibald Prior.....died unknown 2. Elizabeth Pror.....died unknown She married Joseph Harley 20 Dec. 1808. He died unknown. 3. Felix G. Prior was born between 1788 - 1789, and died about 1852 in Morgan Co. Georgia. He married Sarah Baldwin. She died unknown. He married Martha A. Reese. She died unknown. 4. Haden G. Prior was born abt. 1804 and died 1823. 5. Mary Prior died unknown. She married Jonathan Pearrer. He died unknown. 6. John Prior was born 28 Feb 1778, and died 16 Jun 1821 in Morgan Co. Ga. He married Elizabeth Allen 14 Dec. 1800 in Morgan Co. Ga., daughter of Robert Allen and Elizabeth Napier. She was born abt. 1784 in Fluvanna, VA. and died 7 Jun. 1852 in Madison, Morgan Co. Georgia. 7. Asa T. Prior was born 28 Oct. 1783 in Caswell, N.C. and died 2 Jul 1854 in Sabine, Texas. He married Sarah Witcher 1805 thought to be in Mt. Airy, Surry Co. N.C. She was born 1 Oct. 1785 and died 2 Han. 1838 in Cedartown, Polk Co. GA. 8. WADE HADEN PRIOR was born abt. 1798 in Columbia Co. GA and died 25 Aug. 1863 in Tennille, Pike Co. Alabama. He married REBECCA POYTHRESS 4 Mar 1829 in Columbia Co. Georgia. She was born abt. 1805 in GA, and died 26 Dec. 1871 in Tennille, Pike Co. Alabama. 9. Nancy Prior died unknown. She married PATRICK DOUGHERTY 27 Dec. 1796 iin Columbia Co. GA. He died unknown. 10. Jane Prior died unknown. She married MICHAEL DOUGHERTY 18 Apr 1807. He died unk. 11. Philip Prior died unknown. He married JANE LANDERS. She died unknown. 12 Sarah Ann Prior was born19 Sept. 1781 and died unknown. She married JOHN MAGRUDER 20 Oct. 1800 in Columbia Co. Ga. He died unknown. Haden Prior was the son of PHILIP PRIOR and ANN HADEN. Philip Prior was born abt. 1720 in Gloucester, VA. and died 1769 in Granville, NC. He was the son of ROBERT PRYOR and BETTY VIRGINIA GREEN. Philip married Ann Haden who was born 1723 in Amelia Co. Virginia, and died after Nov 1780 in Caswell, NC. Children of Ann Haden and Phillip Prior are: 1. Haden Pryor born bet. 1745-1750 in Granville NC. and died bef. Jul 1805 in Columbia Co. GA. He married Elizabeth Wade 9 Sep 1769 in Granville, NC. She was the daughter of John Wade. She was born in Granville N.C. and died aft. 1820 in Columbia Co. GA. 2. Samuel Pryor died unknown. 3. William Pryor died unknown 4. Frances Pryor died unknown. She married MICAJAH BULLOCK aft 19 Jun 1769 in Granville, NC. He died unknown. 5. John Pryor died unknown.....NOTE: STRICTLY SPECULATION.....There is a John Pryor who was a Rev. Soldier...in the Virginia Continental Line...His rank is listed as Captain Lieutenant and the branch was Artillery. Years: 3, 4,000 acres. This land is recorded in Kentucky. Warrant ID 0126.0 Could this be the Prior/Pryor who married Susanna Poythress, sister of Francis Poythress and Elizabeth Poythress Peniston? In the 1810 census for Jessamine Ky, the widow Susanna Prior had 25 slaves listed on the census. I know this line seems to go nowhere, but it would be nice to know as much as possible about them. 6. Susanna Pryor died Unknown. She married MICAJAH BULLOCK. (So did her sister, Frances.) Philip Pryor was the son of Robert Pryor and Betty Virginia Green Their children are: 1. Samuel Pryor was born 1699 in Gloucester, VA and died in 1790. He married PRUDENCE THORNTON. She died unknown. 2. PHILIP PRYOR was born about 1720 in Gloucester, VA and died 1769 in Granville Co. NC. He married Ann Haden abt. 1740 in Amelia Co. VA. She ws born 1723 in Amelia, VA. and died aft. Nov 1780 in Caswell, NC. 3. John Pryor was born in Gloucester, VA, and died 1771 in Orange Co. NC. He married Margaret Gaines, daughter of George Gaines and Elinor. She was born abt 1709 in Gloucester VA and died abt 1780 in Orange Co. or Caswell Co. NC. Maynard or anyone......I have a question about a name from the information on the Poythress site in regards to the Poythress Index to the Augusta, Ga. Chronicle 1788 - 1827. The entry is for 04/05/1819....REBECCA POYTHRESS on list for letters remaining at post office in Waynesborough, Georgia on April 1, 1819 (04/05/1819, 3, 2). Do you know who she belongs to or is this possibly the Rebecca Poythress who married Wade Pryor? You may have already discussed so many of the questions I have, so please forgive me if I repeat things already presented. Thanks. 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1850 Bond co IL census Elizabeth Johnson 48 NC Israel 24 tn Emeline 19 tn Hardaman B 17 tn Louisa 15 Emely 13 Sanford P 11 George W Hombengle 33 engineer tn probably another son right above Elizabeth Alfred B. Johnson 28 physician tn Rhoda 22 ky Sanford Sarah e Albert C At one time I had the fathers name, I'll have to do some digging. It may have been Sanford?

Thanks. They were in IL in the 1830's. I need to look at my information on the Johnson's. I can't remember what I did with it, since my grandmother b. 1837 didn't have any children with Hardiman Barnet Johnson, they were married in the 1850's. I don't know what happened to him, but in 1860 she's not with him any longer and married John Ingles abt 1863. I do think Susannah Poythress Pryor is the mother of my John Pryor, not wife. He was born abt 1775-80, (I know I put 1760 earlier, opps). I don't know who is father is. John Pryor's son, William named kids, Francis and Susannah. Unfortunatley my Pryors have been mistaken as part of another White co tn Pryor group in books and genealogy's for years. There is a lot of misinformation about them. The other John and William Pryor, who's father was Joseph in a different area of White co tn, and Overton tn, are related to the Phillip Pryor bunch that someone had posted about on the website. We are probably related but haven't figured it out yet. Thanks for the link. I'll check it out. There also was another Pryor family with similar names, over the boarder in KY, the same time mine were in White co Tn. Katherine Russell ----- Original Message ----- From: "John M. Poythress" <brerfox@bellsouth.net> To: <POYTHRESS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 2:51 PM Subject: RE: Poythress, Wall, Hardiman and Pryor family's > Oops, Katherine, I should have said NOT knowledgeable. > > Maynard > > -----Original Message----- > From: John M. Poythress [mailto:brerfox@bellsouth.net] > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 5:38 PM > To: POYTHRESS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: Poythress, Wall, Hardiman and Pryor family's > > Katherine, when I answered your original email I didn't have this one > before me. > > Your information tallies exactly with our group's knowledge of Francis > Poythress the circuit rider, educator, etc. > > The Tennessee and Illinois connections are not ones about which I'm > knowledgeable. Ordinarily, I take the presence of a Hardyman or Hardiman > as a dead ringer that the Poythress family is involved. However, I have > a hard time seeing any of this family in Illinois early on....although > I'll quickly say I haven't done any checking. > > I hope someone else on the wire can give us some hints on this one. > > Maynard > > -----Original Message----- > From: katherine russell [mailto:kjrussell@clearwire.net] > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 6:35 PM > To: POYTHRESS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Poythress, Wall, Hardiman and Pryor family's > > A few days ago I decided to look into a Susannah Poythress Pryor who I > found in the 1799 Jessamine co tax list a few years ago, as the possible > mother for my John Pryor b. abt 1770-80. Her brother was Francis > Poythress who was a Methodist circuit rider preacher sent out from > Baltimore in 1776 to KY. I don't know Susannah's husband first name, > but it may be Joseph. A Joseph Pryor lived by John Pryor's wife family > (Aquilla Sherrill) in the 1780's Greene co Tn (NC side), on the > Nolichucky river. > As I look into this Poythress family, I find a connection to my Wall > family (Henry Wall/Overby family). I also have Hardiman as a first > name. Hardiman Johnson m. Minerva Everman. The Everman's were from > Pendleton co VA. I can't remember off hand about the Johnson's. > Minerva and "Hardy" were married in IL. Minerva Everman's mother was > Elizabeth Wall, granddaughter of Henry Wall. > I don't think Rev. Francis Poythress ever married, because it was > unusual at the time for circuit riders to be married. He also moved in > with Susannah Poythress Pryor who was a widow in 1799,. He died 1818 > "insane". Susannah can be found in the 1810 and 20 Jessamine co census. > Both she is over the age of 45. I would guess their births between > 1730-50. In 1776 Francis is described as educated and a gentleman of > means, as well as powerfully built and short. > The 1799 Jessamine tax records has others in it that I speculate are > related to my family and the Pryor family at a later date. > Does anyone know anything about Susannah and Francis Poythress? > Thank you, > Katherine Russell > > > ==== POYTHRESS Mailing List ==== > Poythress Genealogy Research Web > www.poythress.net > > > > ==== POYTHRESS Mailing List ==== > Poythress Genealogy Research Web > www.poythress.net > > > > ==== POYTHRESS Mailing List ==== > Poythress Genealogy Research Web > www.poythress.net > >

Does anyone want Gay Neale's e-mail address? I see her once a month. We're working together on writing the history of Fort Christanna signage at the Fort. Crystal -----Original Message----- From: Lyn Baird <coriakin@charter.net> Sent: Nov 29, 2005 9:51 PM To: POYTHRESS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Brunswick, VA, court records / Koutz's raid / Masonic connection Mostly correct, Maynard, except not my ancestry so far as I know. For those interested, one may find an account of this in Gay Neale's "Brunswick County, Virginia, 1720-1975", p. 175. The evacuee was the clerk of the court, E. R. Turnbull. Years later his son recounts the tale: "MY FATHER, Edward Randolph Turnbull, was county clerk at the time Koutz's (1864) raid came through this section. I was a small boy at the time, about 12 or 13 years old, and was in the office of my father when he left it just before the raiders came into our town, and he took a Masonic* flag that was in the office and spread it out on the office table before he left. I helped do this. About twenty minutes after the raiders came into town a guard was sent to my father's house, who gave him the flag. After the raiders left we went back to the office and it looked as if all the records were destroyed, or a great part of them, as the floor of the office was about a foot deep in papers, but upon careful examination we found nothing was injured that was of any value. We had a case in the office that was filled with old blanks and they threw these all over the floor. They tore the leaves out of a lot of blank books, and scatttered these over the floor and then put ink over the top of this stuff they had thrown on the floor; otherwise nothing was injured, and the records are still intact beginning with 1732 and down to the present time." "*Masons insist that this was actually Turnbull's Masonic apron, as there is no Masonic flag." This list owes much of our shared knowledge about progenitors Lewis, Meredith and Thomas Poythress to the actions of Turnbull and the unnamed Union officer. Thank God for the cleverness of the one and the compassion of the other. For me - who was born in Brunswick, and who started my research in the Clerk's Office, handling what were in many cases these original records - the story is quite dear. As an aside, when I started my research in the 1970's, a Turnbull decendant of E.R.T. was clerk of the Brunswick court. -----Original Message----- From: John M. Poythress [mailto:brerfox@bellsouth.net] Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 11:06 AM To: POYTHRESS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Lyn Baird...your phone's ringing Lyn, I recall your recounting the piece of history about the Union army coming to the Brunswick County Court House where the evacuating Sheriff (or whatever) had put a Masonic flag over the records and they were left untouched, presumably because the Union officer was also a Mason. And I seem to remember that the Brunswick County native was one of your ancestors. If so, you may be interested in the article in this month's Virginia Genealogical Society newsletter with about 3+ pages of an article by a Kathryn Parker on tracing Virginia masons via Masonic Libraries in VA who have made their records accessible through the VGS and the LVA. If you (or anyone else) is interested just let me know....and give me your email. I'll scan these pages and send them to you as an attachment. Maynard ==== POYTHRESS Mailing List ==== Poythress Genealogy Research Web www.poythress.net ==== POYTHRESS Mailing List ==== Visit www.poythress.net o learn more about Rootsweb please visit http://www.rootsweb.com/

Mostly correct, Maynard, except not my ancestry so far as I know. For those interested, one may find an account of this in Gay Neale's "Brunswick County, Virginia, 1720-1975", p. 175. The evacuee was the clerk of the court, E. R. Turnbull. Years later his son recounts the tale: "MY FATHER, Edward Randolph Turnbull, was county clerk at the time Koutz's (1864) raid came through this section. I was a small boy at the time, about 12 or 13 years old, and was in the office of my father when he left it just before the raiders came into our town, and he took a Masonic* flag that was in the office and spread it out on the office table before he left. I helped do this. About twenty minutes after the raiders came into town a guard was sent to my father's house, who gave him the flag. After the raiders left we went back to the office and it looked as if all the records were destroyed, or a great part of them, as the floor of the office was about a foot deep in papers, but upon careful examination we found nothing was injured that was of any value. We had a case in the office that was filled with old blanks and they threw these all over the floor. They tore the leaves out of a lot of blank books, and scatttered these over the floor and then put ink over the top of this stuff they had thrown on the floor; otherwise nothing was injured, and the records are still intact beginning with 1732 and down to the present time." "*Masons insist that this was actually Turnbull's Masonic apron, as there is no Masonic flag." This list owes much of our shared knowledge about progenitors Lewis, Meredith and Thomas Poythress to the actions of Turnbull and the unnamed Union officer. Thank God for the cleverness of the one and the compassion of the other. For me - who was born in Brunswick, and who started my research in the Clerk's Office, handling what were in many cases these original records - the story is quite dear. As an aside, when I started my research in the 1970's, a Turnbull decendant of E.R.T. was clerk of the Brunswick court. -----Original Message----- From: John M. Poythress [mailto:brerfox@bellsouth.net] Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 11:06 AM To: POYTHRESS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Lyn Baird...your phone's ringing Lyn, I recall your recounting the piece of history about the Union army coming to the Brunswick County Court House where the evacuating Sheriff (or whatever) had put a Masonic flag over the records and they were left untouched, presumably because the Union officer was also a Mason. And I seem to remember that the Brunswick County native was one of your ancestors. If so, you may be interested in the article in this month's Virginia Genealogical Society newsletter with about 3+ pages of an article by a Kathryn Parker on tracing Virginia masons via Masonic Libraries in VA who have made their records accessible through the VGS and the LVA. If you (or anyone else) is interested just let me know....and give me your email. I'll scan these pages and send them to you as an attachment. Maynard ==== POYTHRESS Mailing List ==== Poythress Genealogy Research Web www.poythress.net

I found this message posted a couple of years ago. It's believed by other researching my Pryors that they moved to Georgia or awhile...plus I have an unknown connection to the Wade family. My mothers land was "given" to the Wade family in IL. She was told they were a "shirttale relation" Plus I had already speculated that my Pryors were related to the Phillip Pryor family, as they have relations I think in Overton co Tn, close to my Pryors. Looks like Susannah Poythress may be the mother of my John Pryor. Katherine Russell am digging out information about the Prior/Pryor family in hopes that it will lead to locations or associations with persons who might be connected with the Poythress family in hopes of finding out more about Rebecca Poythress and her sisters, Nancy Ann and Eliza. Wade Haden Prior/Pryor was born abt. 1798 in Columbia Co. Georgia, and died 25 Aug. 1863 in Tennille, Pike County, Alabama. He was the son of HADEN PRIOR and ELIZABETH WADE. He married REBECCA POYTHRESS 4 March 1829 in Columbia County Georgia. NOTE: Columbia County, GA. borders the Savannah River and is near Burke County. Columbia Co. was formed in 1790 from Richmond Co. which borders Burke County. Rebecca was born about 1805 (1850 Census, Pike Co. Miss) in Georgia, and died 26 Dec 1871 in Tennille, Pike Co. Alabama. The children of Wade Haden Prior and Rebecca Poythress are: 1. Edward Haden Prior.......born 26 Dec. 1829, and died Unknown 2. Elizabeth Ann Prior........born 12 Nov 1831 and died Unknown 3. Wade Haden Prior, Jr. .. born 8 Nov. 1833 in Harris Co. Georgia, and died 18 Feb 1893 in Carthage, Panola Co., Texas. He married Elvira Ophelia Williams 26 Sep.1860 in Macon, Alabama. She was born 17 April 1831 in Edgefield, S.C. and died 9 Nov. 1911 in Carthage, Panola Co. Texas. 4. Thomas Jefferson Prior...born 8 Jan 1836, and died Unknown 5. Sarah Jane Prior ..... born 28 Dec. 1837, and died Unknown 6. John Thomas Prior ....born 8 Mar 1840, and died Unknown 7. James Garrett Prior....born 21 Feb 1843 and died Unknown 8. Robert B. Prior....born 29 Dec. 1845, and died Unknown 9. William Wakefield Prior....born 9 Sep. 1849 and died Unknown. 10. Prior child died Unknown. NOTE: The Wade Prior family is found in the 1830 Census in Harris County, Georgia. (from the Index for the 1830 Census for Harris Co. Ga.......listed as WAID PRIOR) Wade Haden Pryor was the son of Haden Pryor and Elizabeth Wade. HADEN PRYOR was born between 1745 - 1750 in Granville, NC., and died before Jul 1805 in Columbia County, Georgia. He was the son of PHILLIP PRIOR and ANN HADEN. ELIZABETH WADE was born in Granville. NC, and died after 1820 in Columbia County Georgia. She was the daughter of JOHN WADE. Children of Elizabeth Wade and Haden Pryor are: (Not in order) 1. Archibald Prior.....died unknown 2. Elizabeth Pror.....died unknown She married Joseph Harley 20 Dec. 1808. He died unknown. 3. Felix G. Prior was born between 1788 - 1789, and died about 1852 in Morgan Co. Georgia. He married Sarah Baldwin. She died unknown. He married Martha A. Reese. She died unknown. 4. Haden G. Prior was born abt. 1804 and died 1823. 5. Mary Prior died unknown. She married Jonathan Pearrer. He died unknown. 6. John Prior was born 28 Feb 1778, and died 16 Jun 1821 in Morgan Co. Ga. He married Elizabeth Allen 14 Dec. 1800 in Morgan Co. Ga., daughter of Robert Allen and Elizabeth Napier. She was born abt. 1784 in Fluvanna, VA. and died 7 Jun. 1852 in Madison, Morgan Co. Georgia. 7. Asa T. Prior was born 28 Oct. 1783 in Caswell, N.C. and died 2 Jul 1854 in Sabine, Texas. He married Sarah Witcher 1805 thought to be in Mt. Airy, Surry Co. N.C. She was born 1 Oct. 1785 and died 2 Han. 1838 in Cedartown, Polk Co. GA. 8. WADE HADEN PRIOR was born abt. 1798 in Columbia Co. GA and died 25 Aug. 1863 in Tennille, Pike Co. Alabama. He married REBECCA POYTHRESS 4 Mar 1829 in Columbia Co. Georgia. She was born abt. 1805 in GA, and died 26 Dec. 1871 in Tennille, Pike Co. Alabama. 9. Nancy Prior died unknown. She married PATRICK DOUGHERTY 27 Dec. 1796 iin Columbia Co. GA. He died unknown. 10. Jane Prior died unknown. She married MICHAEL DOUGHERTY 18 Apr 1807. He died unk. 11. Philip Prior died unknown. He married JANE LANDERS. She died unknown. 12 Sarah Ann Prior was born19 Sept. 1781 and died unknown. She married JOHN MAGRUDER 20 Oct. 1800 in Columbia Co. Ga. He died unknown. Haden Prior was the son of PHILIP PRIOR and ANN HADEN. Philip Prior was born abt. 1720 in Gloucester, VA. and died 1769 in Granville, NC. He was the son of ROBERT PRYOR and BETTY VIRGINIA GREEN. Philip married Ann Haden who was born 1723 in Amelia Co. Virginia, and died after Nov 1780 in Caswell, NC. Children of Ann Haden and Phillip Prior are: 1. Haden Pryor born bet. 1745-1750 in Granville NC. and died bef. Jul 1805 in Columbia Co. GA. He married Elizabeth Wade 9 Sep 1769 in Granville, NC. She was the daughter of John Wade. She was born in Granville N.C. and died aft. 1820 in Columbia Co. GA. 2. Samuel Pryor died unknown. 3. William Pryor died unknown 4. Frances Pryor died unknown. She married MICAJAH BULLOCK aft 19 Jun 1769 in Granville, NC. He died unknown. 5. John Pryor died unknown.....NOTE: STRICTLY SPECULATION.....There is a John Pryor who was a Rev. Soldier...in the Virginia Continental Line...His rank is listed as Captain Lieutenant and the branch was Artillery. Years: 3, 4,000 acres. This land is recorded in Kentucky. Warrant ID 0126.0 Could this be the Prior/Pryor who married Susanna Poythress, sister of Francis Poythress and Elizabeth Poythress Peniston? In the 1810 census for Jessamine Ky, the widow Susanna Prior had 25 slaves listed on the census. I know this line seems to go nowhere, but it would be nice to know as much as possible about them. 6. Susanna Pryor died Unknown. She married MICAJAH BULLOCK. (So did her sister, Frances.) Philip Pryor was the son of Robert Pryor and Betty Virginia Green Their children are: 1. Samuel Pryor was born 1699 in Gloucester, VA and died in 1790. He married PRUDENCE THORNTON. She died unknown. 2. PHILIP PRYOR was born about 1720 in Gloucester, VA and died 1769 in Granville Co. NC. He married Ann Haden abt. 1740 in Amelia Co. VA. She ws born 1723 in Amelia, VA. and died aft. Nov 1780 in Caswell, NC. 3. John Pryor was born in Gloucester, VA, and died 1771 in Orange Co. NC. He married Margaret Gaines, daughter of George Gaines and Elinor. She was born abt 1709 in Gloucester VA and died abt 1780 in Orange Co. or Caswell Co. NC. Maynard or anyone......I have a question about a name from the information on the Poythress site in regards to the Poythress Index to the Augusta, Ga. Chronicle 1788 - 1827. The entry is for 04/05/1819....REBECCA POYTHRESS on list for letters remaining at post office in Waynesborough, Georgia on April 1, 1819 (04/05/1819, 3, 2). Do you know who she belongs to or is this possibly the Rebecca Poythress who married Wade Pryor? You may have already discussed so many of the questions I have, so please forgive me if I repeat things already presented. Thanks. Bruce Miller ______________________________ ------------------------------

Henry Wall b. abt a1740 m. Hannah Overby sons William and Peter. Peter Wall b. abt 1770 m. Mary Mize Brunswick co VA 1. Elizabeth Wall b. 1810 NC m. Andrew Everman, 2nd Randall Devenport 2. Drury 3 Scroggin ( married Williamson co Tn) 4. William 5.Henry 6. Nancy 7. Thomas Elizabeth Wall and Andrew Everman 1. Minerva Everman m. Hardiman Barnett Johnson no issue, 2nd John Ingles, had children with Ingles and Thomas Liles. Elizabeth and/or Henry may be the children of William not Peter. I just moved and my up to date information is still packed. Brother William and Peter died in IL. Susannah Poythress Pryor and ? (very specultive) John Pryor born md? or VA d. 1832 Sangamon co IL m. Ruth Sherrill abt 1800. William Pryor b. abt 1803 m. Rachel Barns Sherril Pryor m. Rebecca Hickerouth Margaret m. James Massie Rachel m. William Duff Elander m. Wilson (her cousin) Elizabeth m. Mr. Smith (prob. Bird Smith) Mary m. Mr. Saylors Jonathan m. Susan Ann Clara/Clary I have found my John Pryor at the estate sale of his father in law Aquilla Sherrill in Greene co Tn around 1805, then he and family are in the falling water area of White co tn. Move to Sangamon co IL 1828.

The 1810 census shows the following: Betey Poythress, 1810, Prince George Co., Va., p. 542, 3 m under 10, 1 m 10-15, 2 m 16-25, 1 f 10-15, 1 f 26-44. Who is this Betty and who are all of the children? Playing fill in the blank, we get: Elizabeth Bland Poythress (b. 1766-1784) b. March 29, 1770 (widow of William Poythress 1765-c. 1810) Joshua Poythress (b. 1785-1794) b. abt. 1784 (possibly son of Wm. & Mary Gilliam Poythress) Thomas E. Poythress (b. 1785-1794) b. abt. 1785 (possibly son of Wm. & Mary Gilliam Poythress) Mary Poythress (b. 1795-1800) b. August 3, 1793 (possibly dau. of Wm. & Mary Gilliam Poythress) William Poythress (b. 1795-1800) b. abt. 1794 (possibly son of Wm. & Mary Gilliam Poythress) 3 M under 10 b. 1800-1810 When I filled these names in, I realized that the children were probably the children of the deceased parents, William & Mary Gilliam Poythress. Betty's husband, William, had died within the year. In addition to this census, I noticed this: Prince George Records, Surveyor's record, p. 189, 15 May 1810. Pursuant to an Order of the court and by direction of John Batte, John H. Peterson and Peter Epes, I surveyed estate of William Poythress, dec'd, old courthouse road. William Poythress's land called "Branchester" and Simmons branch. Plat shows: 200 acres to Patrick Poythress, 313 acres to William Poythress, 50 acres to Joshua Poythress, 300 acres to Thomas Poythress. Robert Turnbull, County Surveyor. Significance: When William & Mary Gilliam Poythress died and left their children orphaned, their cousin, William, son of Peter, took them in to live with him and his wife, Elizabeth. When William died, "Betty" still had the care of the children. They evidently took good care of the children. Mystery solved? As for the youngest three boys, I have not figured out who they were...yet. I believe we now know who Betey was in the 1810 census. In the War of 1812 are the following two entries: Patrick H. Poythress, 83 Reg't (Scott's) Virginia Militia. (c. 1780-1824), s. of William & Mary Gilliam Poythress Peter Poythress, 83 Reg't (Scott's) Virginia Militia. (1782-1815), s. of Meredith & Edith Poythress It seems that Patrick Henry Poythress and his cousin, Peter Poythress, must have been close enough in age and idealism to engage in the same adventure. I have not checked to see if this adventure took them to Louisiana or not. Tales of Louisiana could have provided "fodder" for those Poythresses that eventually ventured into Louisiana. As to the following entry: Willie Portress, 62 Reg't (Selden's) Virginia Militia; Wiley Poythress, 4 Reg't Virginia Militia; Wilie Poythress, 62 Reg't (Selden's) Virginia Militia; Willie Poythress, 1 Reg't (Allen's) Virginia Militia. This individual could be Patrick's younger brother or another son of Thomas Poythress. More particulars are needed to ascertain which William Poythress this is. There is more "circumstantial" information in the records, but I will leave that for those that are interested in this exercise. We have to use our imagination and ALL of the available information to fill in the gaps in this family. While we may never have the tangibles required by the different societies in order to join their organizations, we can fill most of the gaps with "circumstantial" evidence, existent records and common sense, and that will prove the case for those that have studied the records in detail. Maynard and I have been able to build quite a few lists and he has generously provided a CD of hundreds of records to interested parties. Presently, a "virtual census" is being built to identify all of the adults and many children for the years from 1632 well into the 18th century. With all of the "lists," records, maps, Batte/Diamond family chart and the "virtual census," we should be able to identify most of the players within the different decades. With good insight, we should be able to fill in a lot of the gaps..........Mike

A few days ago I decided to look into a Susannah Poythress Pryor who I found in the 1799 Jessamine co tax list a few years ago, as the possible mother for my John Pryor b. abt 1770-80. Her brother was Francis Poythress who was a Methodist circuit rider preacher sent out from Baltimore in 1776 to KY. I don't know Susannah's husband first name, but it may be Joseph. A Joseph Pryor lived by John Pryor's wife family (Aquilla Sherrill) in the 1780's Greene co Tn (NC side), on the Nolichucky river. As I look into this Poythress family, I find a connection to my Wall family (Henry Wall/Overby family). I also have Hardiman as a first name. Hardiman Johnson m. Minerva Everman. The Everman's were from Pendleton co VA. I can't remember off hand about the Johnson's. Minerva and "Hardy" were married in IL. Minerva Everman's mother was Elizabeth Wall, granddaughter of Henry Wall. I don't think Rev. Francis Poythress ever married, because it was unusual at the time for circuit riders to be married. He also moved in with Susannah Poythress Pryor who was a widow in 1799,. He died 1818 "insane". Susannah can be found in the 1810 and 20 Jessamine co census. Both she is over the age of 45. I would guess their births between 1730-50. In 1776 Francis is described as educated and a gentleman of means, as well as powerfully built and short. The 1799 Jessamine tax records has others in it that I speculate are related to my family and the Pryor family at a later date. Does anyone know anything about Susannah and Francis Poythress? Thank you, Katherine Russell

November 22, 2005 Google Donates $3 Million to Scan Old Documents Google is giving $3 million to the U.S. Library of Congress to help set up a system for creating digital copies of rare documents from around the world. This is not directly related to genealogy but one has to believe that the effort will greatly aid genealogists. With the donation announced Tuesday, Google becomes the first business to back the "World Digital Library," a concept that began to take shape about five months ago. The worldwide program is loosely modeled after the Library of Congress' American Memory project launched 11 years ago. Backed with $48 million in private donations and a $15 million infusion from the federal government, the American Memory site at now has more than 10 million items, including early maps of the United States as well as photos and letters from the Civil War at http://loc.gov/memory Librarian of Congress James Billington now wants to create similar sites devoted to other cultures outside the United States and Europe. Although nothing has been finalized, Billington initially envisions devoting large sections of the World Digital Library to material from China, India and Islam. "Much of this will be one-of-a-kind material that you won't be able to find anywhere else," according to Billington. "Getting the material out there (online) is really important. We have already preserved a lot of material that might have perished in other hands." Google co-founder Sergey Brin characterized the donation as no-brainer for his Mountain View, Calif.-based company as it pursues its avowed mission "to organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful." "This is a philanthropic initiative for us," Brin said during a Monday interview. "It's all about making more information available to more people." Google's motives aren't entirely altruistic. Because Google makes most of money from the ads that appear when Web surfers are searching for something, the company stands to profit whenever more material comes online. The World Digital Library plans to focus on material no longer protected by copyright. You can learn more at: Google: http://www.google.com <http://www.google.com/> National Digital Library Program: http://www.loc.gov <http://www.loc.gov/> American Memory Web site: http://www.loc.gov/memory Library of Congress' Global Gateway site: http://international.loc.gov/intldl/intldlhome.html <http://international.loc.gov/intldl/intldlhome.html> My thanks to Maureen Mann for telling me about this project.

Maynard, I've now gotten to an internet connection, but I cannot locate the record you found, so still cannot confirm whether the Grand Jury date was truly 1720, in a batch of records from 1733-1790. I'm not even confident I've gotten to the right place, since by searching for Poythress in the full text, my search results listed 37 items (several are different pages from the same sources), and since I couldn't get to it the same way you outlined below. All the search results are various books compiled by individuals, and perhaps it was in one of those that you found the Grand Jury list you quoted -- so perhaps there was a typo in the year as that individual entered it in his/her book? (I had earlier mistakenly thought you were looking at some transcribed index for the actual Prince George County, Virginia County Records of 1733-1790.) Perhaps BYU is rearranging the website's way of reaching different things. I'll list below the way that, today, gets to their "Family History Archive" section. That section is *not* described as being the Family History Library, as I had mistakenly concluded earlier. BYU's Family History Archive is described as: Access to a repository of histories created by families to record and celebrate the lives of their ancestors. Today at least: - Go to: http://www.lib.byu.edu/ - Choose: "Find Other Materials" - Then on right side of screen, choose "Online Collections at BYU" (When I chose "Electronic" as Maynard had said the other day, there was no "Text Collections" to get to after that) - Then across top of "Online Collections" page, pick the "Text Collections" tab. - From there choose "Family History Archive" That takes one to the Search page. To find any Poythress entries, I put Poythress in the bottom search box, and put a checkmark in the "full text search" box. Cheers, Barbara John M. Poythress wrote: > Some has been digitized and posted. > > Go to: http://www.lib.byu.edu/ > Choose: > Find Other Materials > Electronic > Choose the tab "Text Collections" > Choose: Family History Archives > > Following is the only Poythress entry of interest to me and I included > the entire jury list as all the usual suspects are there: > > 11 Jan 1720 > Prince George County Records, 1733-1790, p. 208 > > Grand Jury empanelled consisting of William Batte, William Gibbs, Thomas > Leath, Nicholas Hatch, Thomas Poythress, > John Brockwell, John Chamless, Edward Woodleif, John Cureton, William > Parsons, William Crawley, Daniel Sturdivant, > Lewis Epes, John Epes, William Mattox, Benjamin Simmons, Samuel Lee, > John Burge, Tillman Patteson, Reuben Baird, > John Hardaway, Roger Taylor and James Pittillo. > Jury made the following presentments: > Elizabeth Jones in Parish of Brandon for having a bastard child. > William Floyd, a common swearer. > William Bleighton, for not going to church. > William Irby, for same. > etc. etc. > Signed: William Batte, Foreman > All of above summoned to next court. > > > > Maynard > > > > ==== POYTHRESS Mailing List ==== > Poythress Genealogy Research Web > www.poythress.net > >

Barbara, I just did a search for Poythress and was disappointed to find only 3 specifics and two them were the index page and the item in one entry. Only one which was remarkable to me was that Thomas entry as a juryman in 1720 and the closest I can come to pin-pointing him is Thomas Poythres who patented 180 acres in Surry County 23 Mar 1715 (PB 10, p. 265 on database disk). For this I used Mike's trial "Proxy Census using Land Records." Otherwise, I don't have any more of a clue to him than I had before. The Thomases in this crowd are every bit as pesky as the Williams and Francises. Maynard -----Original Message----- From: Barbara P. Neal [mailto:bp_neal@earthlink.net] Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 11:30 PM To: POYTHRESS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Fam. Hist. Library - Thomas Poythress on PG Co Grand Jury Maynard, thanks so much for making us aware of the digitizing of the Family History Archives going on. Right now, I'm not where I can check out the BYU website you mentioned, to double-check that neat Grand Jury list you sent to the List the other day, but I'm just wondering: Does that group of "Prince George County Records, 1733-1790" really contain over 200 pages of entries that occurred before January of 1720? If so, wow, browsing thru that group could yield some really early info. (Or maybe there's a typo in either the Grand Jury date, or in the dates of the record group?) I'd welcome any further enlightenment or clarification, since I'm trying to figure out the best Thomas Poythress for this to have been. Thanks, Barbara (Bpn) 11/16/2005 John M. Poythress wrote: <snip> ... > Following is the only Poythress entry of interest to me and I included > the entire jury list as all the usual suspects are there: > 11 Jan 1720 > Prince George County Records, 1733-1790, p. 208 > ... ==== POYTHRESS Mailing List ==== Poythress Genealogy Research Web www.poythress.net

Maynard, thanks so much for making us aware of the digitizing of the Family History Archives going on. Right now, I'm not where I can check out the BYU website you mentioned, to double-check that neat Grand Jury list you sent to the List the other day, but I'm just wondering: Does that group of "Prince George County Records, 1733-1790" really contain over 200 pages of entries that occurred before January of 1720? If so, wow, browsing thru that group could yield some really early info. (Or maybe there's a typo in either the Grand Jury date, or in the dates of the record group?) I'd welcome any further enlightenment or clarification, since I'm trying to figure out the best Thomas Poythress for this to have been. Thanks, Barbara (Bpn) 11/16/2005 John M. Poythress wrote: <snip> ... > Following is the only Poythress entry of interest to me and I included > the entire jury list as all the usual suspects are there: > 11 Jan 1720 > Prince George County Records, 1733-1790, p. 208 > ...