A correction is needed in part of my 17 Feb 2006 message, captioned "Some Charles City Co, VA burials & burial sites" I inadvertently combined info 2 Francis Poythress deaths. I should have better separated them, as did the compiler of the book, "80% Heaven Bound: Deaths & Burials in Charles City County, Virginia" compiled by Sherry Brown Tyler for the Charles City County Historical Society. Note: In looking at these now, I wonder if Tyler might have made an editing error in including these 3 citations for the first death, however since I haven't studied the 3 sources she mentions, I cannot clarify why/whether the 3 are sources of the death of the first Francis. If any of you have studied these 3 sources, and find any error here, please let me know: Tyler noted on her p.404, the death of Capt. Ffran. Poythres prior to court date of Apr 1661, who left his land to son John, and she gave these sources re his death: - "Will & Deed Book, 1692-1694 fragment: 3 Apr 1694, mentioned in letter of attorney" - "Court Orders, 1687-1695: Maj. Fra. Poythress - 8 Jan 1688, administration, with will annexed, granted to Rebecca, widow (date may be death date or meeting held at house on this date) - Dr. Ja. Tubb later granted judgment against estate "for phyusical means administered in his last sickness" - "Will & Deed Book, 1692-1694, fragment: Francis Poythress - 30 Oct 1693, mentioned in power of attorney as deceased." Tyler noted on her p.412, the death of Maj. Fra. Poythress prior to the court date of 8 Jan 1688, and she mentions only the second of the above-cited sources, re action taken following his death: - administration, with will annexed, granted to Rebecca, widow (date may be death date or meeting held at house on this date) - Dr. Ja. Tubb later granted judgment against estate "for phyusical means administered in his last sickness" Thanks for any further clarification anyone can offer. Barbara

Barbara, I assume it was your intention that the information provided in your 4 emails be dialed into the master database which I'll proceed to do shortly....and also correct the errors and omissions you pointed out. Good sleuthing. Maynard

Yes indeed, Maynard, that was my intention. Thanks so much for combining it & for all your good work. I look forward to getting the updated CC Co document when you've gotten to that point. I plan to continue, as time permits, to go thru other info I have for any that is not already in your various counties' documents. Thanks again, Barbara

An excellent book is available, which those of you who have interest in following various additional surnames might want to acquire: "80% Heaven Bound: Deaths & Burials in Charles City County, Virginia" compiled by Sherry Brown Tyler for the Charles City County Historical Society (570 pages, plus an almost 80 page index, all packed with info). I noted that it was published in 2000, and the compiler noted that the Society in 1994 began recording all known burial sites in the county. Tyler commented that work on the project won't be complete until all deeds have been traced for every piece of land in the county, and genealogies completed for every family, and until all opportunities for error have been exhausted. She invited all to assist in the continuing project by sending any additions/corrections (which she said can easily be added to the computer file for the book) to the Charles City County Center for Local History; P.O. Box 128; 10900 Courthouse Rd; Charles City, VA 23030 Note: the following info is *not* listed in chronological order. The first Poythress mention in the book is in describing a known burial location, at St. Thomas Episcopal Church. The church was built in 1834 for the convenience of those living in the eastern part of the county. The church is on a site of approximately 10 acres along a bank of Mapsico Creek. The deed (Charles City County, VA Deed Book 8, p.156) describing the site is where the Poythress name comes in: Collier H. Minge conveyed to Fielding Lewis, Thomas Poythress and John Minge, for the establishment of a church, a tract of land described as follows: "...on the main road leading from Charles City Courthouse to Barrett's Ferry and running along the line that divides the lands of said Minge and the heirs of John Creighton, to the swamp and thence down the swamp to the road leading to the house of the said Collier H. Minge, thence up said road to the main road: & Thence up the Main road to the beginning, upon which said piece or parcel of land, the said building for the Church aforesaid is erected..." = = = The next mentions of our name occur regarding a private cemetery at "Farmer's Rest," which is the name of the property owned (in 2000) by Richard Duke, who farms both Farmer's Rest and Farmington. She wrote that he remembers tombstones in what is now the middle of a field, near the site where the house collapsed by 1965, and where in 2000 bricks and wood were still visible. The house had a basement and chimneys at both ends. Farmer's Rest in 1826 was mentioned in Braxton Harrison's deed of trust. In the 1867 deed index Thomas P. Harrison was listed as owning it. In identifying information about Braxton Harrison and Braxton Harrison, the elder, both of whom are "Possibly buried here or at 'Kittewan'" Tyler quoted the following: re Braxton Harrison, the elder, who died by 1823: "Supreme Court of Appeals of Virginia, Feb 1831 - Lamb vs Harrison's Admir &c: 20 Nov 1823, administrator Thomas Poythress, appointed; Minute Book 1: 18 Dec 1823, order to settle account; 17 My 1827 court, settlement returned & recorded for Braxton Harrison, the elder." re Braxton Harrison, who was born circa 1803 and who died 15 Dec 1833: "Richmond Enquirer, 28 Jan 1834, p.3: Braxton Harrison died at his residence, 'Farmer's Rest' in Charles City County, age 30, leaving wife and 5 children; Minute Book 2: 20 Feb 1834, administration of estate granted Thomas E. Poythress." = = = The next mention of our name is regarding that same Thomas E. Poythress, in the section discussing Kittewan. Kittewan has five known burial sites within its boundaries. After discussion of Kittewan, Tyler writes that "David Minge owned land in the area of what is now known as 'Kittewan.' Part of Minge's land was also called 'Kittewan,' but doesn't seem to have been that parcel on which the mansion called 'Kittewan' now stands. The family connections are quite complicated, intertwining with those who owned the property on which the old mansion house stands." She then discusses Minge, and his widow, Christiana (about age 36 when he died), who was named in his will to have use of what he left until his sons came of age or until she remarried. Christiana indeed remarried, to Collier Harrison. After Christiana died, Collier Harrison married Barsheba Bryant (who lived 1787-1850). After Collier died in 1809, Barsheba married Thomas E. Poythress, per Minute Book 1: 20 Nov 1823, [Collier's] widow, Barsheba, married next Thomas E. Poythress and they were guardians of orphans Braxton & Robert C. Harrison. The following sources are given re that orphan, Robert C. Harrison (born circa 1809; died 19th of ?? 1845) - Westover Parish Register: buried at Kittewan, age 36, died of consumption. - Minute Book 3: 17 Apr 1845, his will was proved & recorded with executor Thomas E. Poythress. Tyler gives the following sources re Thomas E. Poythress (born circa 1802; died March 1847): - "Westover Parish Register: buried at Kittewan - resident of 'The Glebe'"; - "Leavell's Register: buried 25 Mar 1847 at Kittewan - died of intemperance - resided at 'The Glebe'" - "Will Book 5, p.35: will written 22 Mar 1847 and probated 15 Apr 1847;" Tyler noted that in his will he directed that the cemetery be enclosed. [Tyler noted that it had earlier, in the 1790 will of Elizabeth Harrison Rickman Edmonson, been requested that the cemetery be enclosed by a brick wall. Tyler noted that it is not known whether Thomas E. Poythress' 1847 will mentioned enclosing it because it had not been done earlier, or whether it needed to be enclosed again.] - "Reports of Cases Decided in the Supreme Court of Appeals of Virginia, Held at Richmond" Vol. I, by John M. Patton, Jr. and Roscoe B. Heath (The Michie Company: 24 Feb 1900), p.521: January Term, 1855: Poythress et als Vs Harrison: Thomas E. Poythress death date given as 1847 with his will recorded in Charles City County and George Walker was the executor." Tyler gives the following sources re Mrs. Bersheba Poythress (born circa 1787; died Apr 1850): - "Westover Parish Register: buried at Kittewan - relict of Col. Harrison" - "Leavell's Register: Mrs. Bersheba Poythress, age 63 buried 19 Apr 1850 - residence, 'The Glebe' - quiet sufferer for years" - "Will Book 5, p.182: will written 1 May 1849 and probated 18 Apr 1850" - "Minute Book 4: 18 Apr 1850, will proved & recorded - Thomas E. Willcox, executor" Tyler also notes that the following may have been buried there at Kittewan, too, based on their association with the above: - Caroline Poythress (born circa 1816; died 1 Oct 1824) "Richmond Enquirer, 8 Oct 1824, p.3: age 8 - eldest daughter of Capt. Thomas E. Poythress of Charles City County" - Ann Maria Poythress (born circa 1821; died 7 Jul 1832) "Richmond Enquirer, 13 Jul 1832, p.3: died at Kittewan - age 11 - only child of Capt. Thomas E. & B. Poythress" = = = Tyler also noted the death of Capt. Ffran. Poythres prior to court date of Apr 1661, who left his land to son John, and she gave these sources re his death: - "Will & Deed Book, 1692-1694 fragment: 3 Apr 1694, mentioned in letter of attorney" - "Court Orders, 1687-1695: Maj. Fra. Poythress - 8 Jan 1688, administration, with will annexed, granted to Rebecca, widow (date may be death date or meeting held at house on this date) - Dr. Ja. Tubb later granted judgment against estate "for phyusical means administered in his last sickness" - "Will & Deed Book, 1692-1694, fragment: Francis Poythress - 30 Oct 1693, mentioned in power of attorney as deceased." = = = Tyler noted the following deaths were known to have been by the Court dates shown: - Joshua Poythress, by the Jul 1741 Court date, "executors involved in suit" (Court Minutes Book 1; Weisiger's transcription) - James Johnson, by 16 Mar 1826 Court date, "orphan Camilla A. M. chose as guardian Thomas Poythress" (Court Minutes Book 1; Weisiger's transcription) - William Poythress, by 18 Jun 1840 Court date, "mentioned as son of Capt. Wm. S. Poythress" (Court Minutes Book 3, 1838-1847) - Capt. William S. Poythress, by 18 Jun 1840 Court date, "certified officer in Rev. War - died leaving 4 children certified as only heirs: Thomas E.; Joshua; William (d. intestate, no issue); Patrick H." (Tyler lists both Court Minutes Book 3, 1838-1847; and Francis B. Heitman's "Historical Register of Officers of the Continental Army During the War of the Revolution," Clearfield reprint, 1997, p.450: "A Wm. Poythress was a 1st Lt. In the 1st Continental Artillery") = = = Tyler noted the following: Chancery Court Records, Box 2, 1849 - 0018 Thomas P. Harrison by next Friend vs Thomas E. Poythress et als as another source re the death of Thomas Poythress in 1847

From Benjamin B. Weisiger III's "Charles City County, Virginia Records 1737-1774 (With Several 17th Century Fragments)" [My own comments are in square brackets, within the entries. Parentheses are Weisiger's.] [Aha! In this book I found the 2 "Feb 1692" entries that Maynard had included in his listing, which I was unable to find in the Court Order Book. I'll repeat them here, even though they do appear in Maynard's listing, to help clarify their correct source. In this Weisiger book, the two Feb 1692 items he listed are shown together, as if one entry and as I list the p.150 item below, rather than separated into two items.] From what Weisiger states is a "Fragment of a Will & Deed Book 1692-1694" p.150 (first part missing) a deed from Rebecca Poythress to Joshua Wynne Wit: Charles Bartholomew, Wm. Epes, Elizabeth (X) Smith Signed: Rebecca Poythress Recorded 3 Feb. 1692 [thus 1692/93] Power of Attorney from Rebecca Poythress to Charles Bartholomew to convey above land. 2 Feb. 1692 [thus 1692/93] Wit. Wm Epes, Wm Epes, Elizabeth (X) Smith Signed: Rebecca Poythress Recorded 3 Feb. 1692 [thus 1692/93] From what Weisiger states is a "Fragment of a Will & Deed Book 1692-1694" [another entry Maynard had included with the Court Order Book items] p.185 Whereas a letter of attorney, bearing date ____ London appointed me, Richard Tibbott, Mariner, to be attorney for Thomas Crane to receive of the heirs and Executors of Francis Poythress, late of Charles City Co. in Va., dec'd, £10 with interest, I substitute Capt. Petter Perry of said county to act for me. 30 Oct 1693 Wit: Richard Blande, Hugh Davis Signed: Richard Tibbott Recorded 3 April 1694 [thus 1694/95] From what Weisiger states is a "Fragment of an Order Book for 1641-1642 (Mss 3c3807 a26 from the Manuscript Collections of The VA Historical Society) [The following is everything Weisiger included for the item]: Deposition of William Thomas, age 34 (very confusing) about a cow and calf of Thomas Osborn's, ear marks, John Flood's boat and Mrs. Heymon. This is followed by a deposition of William Hinman, age 20, having to do with Mrs. Heyman's calfs, Mr. Poythris's house, a white faced steer and cow & calf, and Roger Humblee.

More new additions (& minor correction) to Maynard's great list of Charles City County, Virginia documents. These are from Weisiger's "Charles City County, Virginia Court Orders 1687-1695 With A Fragment of a Court Order Book for the Year 1680." I recall Maynard talking with me about the fact that he found discrepancies between two different versions of Benjamin Weisiger's transcriptions, and him consulting with Weisiger's son, Minor, who works in the Library of Virginia. The differences were something Minor said would have to be studied. I haven't heard any "rest of the story" so suspect that study has not yet been completed. Below I offer additions from the version I'm examining, which did not appear in Maynard's listing. My notations are in square brackets. 1680 Fragment [minor correction: in the text of this item, Maynard had a typo and put "1689" where it should be "1680" Note that since this was recorded in Feb 1680, we now refer to the date as Feb 1680/81] [These next 2 entries are on pages not many pages after the one Maynard listed for p.361 on 3 Aug 1691, involving Geo. Woodleiffe and Jno. Poythress. By the dates on these next two entries, these would appear to be from the same February court date as the ones Maynard has regarding Rebecca Poythress and a deed for land, both of which are shown as being on "p.150." However, the transcription I'm looking at does not have those 2 entries he found, and I don't see these next 2 entries in his listing. Confused? Join the club.] p.385 Court at Westopher [sic] 3rd February 1691 [thus 1691/92] In suit of Cha. Bartholomew, assignee of Mrs. Rebecca Poythress, agst James Denson, and deft. not appearing, an order is granted agst Sherr, for £10 p.390 A Court at Westopher [sic] for Charles City 3rd March 1691 [thus 1691/92] Judgement granted Charles Bartholmew, assignee of Mrs. Rebecca Poythress, agst James Denson for £6

Again, thank you for sharing info. This one reinforces our lack of additional data on the life/death of Colonel Robert Wynne since he died 1675/1676. The missing pages of the order book, pages 1-162 could have contained some mention or record of him. 1674 (?) Colonel Robert Wynne was guardian of Robert Edloe and Colonel Wynne was still alive in 1674/75 and he is ill and unable to look after Edloe. So, he sends Robert, age 14, to Court to have Robert Edloe's kinsman, James Minge appointed as his guardian. On June 10, 1774, Robert Edloe appears in Court and Mr. Minge refers to Robert Wynne as Edloes "late guardian". Robert Wynne's will was dated 15 July 1675. If I remember correctly, without checking, Joshua Wynne sold or rented some of his land to Benjamin Harrison at one time. -----Original Message----- From: Barbara P. Neal [mailto:bp_neal@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 9:45 AM To: POYTHRESS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Additions to Charles City Co, VA Poythress listings I received a good question from Mike: Was the date in the following supposed to be "16th of Sept. 1676?" Order Bk p.191 [13 Sep 1677 Court at Westover] Jno. Finley aged 24 years... I re-checked, and also re-checked the "Additions and Corrections" at the end of the volume. The date shown was indeed "13 Sep 1677" In my re-examination, I found the additional entry below on p.286 re Flower dew Hundred that I missed yesterday. This volume contains *no* entries for 1676, though this volume opens with the notation that pages 1-162 (of the original Order Book) are missing. In this volume, the entries run chronologically from beginning with p.163 which was an entry of "3 May 1677, Rec. 16 June 1677" pp.283-284 had been torn away per the transcriber p.285 begins in mid-entry witnessed on and delivered in court on 14 Feb 1677/78 Order Bk p.286 [14 Feb 1677/78 Court; Bpn note: the dashes appear in this volume; my notations are in square brackets below; the parenthetical comment is by Margaret McNeill Ayres, who transcribed and abstracted this volume] Robert Lucy of Flowerde Hundred in County of Charles City & Sarah his wife on one part and Benjamin Harrison of Surry on the other part - - -, the sd. Robt. and Sarah Lucy for the love and affection they bear unto John & Richard Taylor sons of the sd. Lucy for a necessary provision of lands, etc. for sd. Jno. Richard etc. have granted, bargained, [blank space underscored in the transcription here, where the word "conveyed" would usually appear] & sold and do give, etc. unto Benj. Harrison - - - (End of transcription. Were they setting up a trust and the clerk recorded no further? Ed.) p.287 begins the 15 April 1678 Court at Westover, and the book continues in chronological order thru other court dates as shown in yesterday's message ==== POYTHRESS Mailing List ==== Poythress Genealogy Research Web www.poythress.net

I received a good question from Mike: Was the date in the following supposed to be "16th of Sept. 1676?" Order Bk p.191 [13 Sep 1677 Court at Westover] Jno. Finley aged 24 years... I re-checked, and also re-checked the "Additions and Corrections" at the end of the volume. The date shown was indeed "13 Sep 1677" In my re-examination, I found the additional entry below on p.286 re Flower dew Hundred that I missed yesterday. This volume contains *no* entries for 1676, though this volume opens with the notation that pages 1-162 (of the original Order Book) are missing. In this volume, the entries run chronologically from beginning with p.163 which was an entry of "3 May 1677, Rec. 16 June 1677" pp.283-284 had been torn away per the transcriber p.285 begins in mid-entry witnessed on and delivered in court on 14 Feb 1677/78 Order Bk p.286 [14 Feb 1677/78 Court; Bpn note: the dashes appear in this volume; my notations are in square brackets below; the parenthetical comment is by Margaret McNeill Ayres, who transcribed and abstracted this volume] Robert Lucy of Flowerde Hundred in County of Charles City & Sarah his wife on one part and Benjamin Harrison of Surry on the other part - - -, the sd. Robt. and Sarah Lucy for the love and affection they bear unto John & Richard Taylor sons of the sd. Lucy for a necessary provision of lands, etc. for sd. Jno. Richard etc. have granted, bargained, [blank space underscored in the transcription here, where the word "conveyed" would usually appear] & sold and do give, etc. unto Benj. Harrison - - - (End of transcription. Were they setting up a trust and the clerk recorded no further? Ed.) p.287 begins the 15 April 1678 Court at Westover, and the book continues in chronological order thru other court dates as shown in yesterday's message

Thanks, Barbara. Good to see some new material. In the one entry was John Finley, the overseer for Captain Allen, of "Bacon's Castle." It was interesting to see John Poythress and Richard Pace on the same jury. Richard Pace was supposedly the father and father-in-law of Richard Pace and Rebecca Poythress. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara P. Neal" <bp_neal@earthlink.net> To: <POYTHRESS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 10:44 PM Subject: Additions to Charles City Co, VA Poythress listings > Referring to Maynard's great Word document that he has made available to > us via the CD of info he has prepared, I have found these additional > Poythress listings (and a Flowerdew Hundred listing) in the Charles City > County, Virginia Order Book of 1676-1679, and a few minor corrections > that I'll try to clarify. My comments will be in square brackets. > Spelling here is as it was transcribed by abstractor & compiler Margaret > McNeill Ayres, 1968: > > Order Bk p.173 [I offer just clarification on this one, since the date > was given in Maynard's document as "00,00,1676" This page appears in > the midst of info from the Jun 1677 Court at Westover] > Action of Dr. Geo. Lee plt. and Capt. Fr. Poythress deft. referred to > next court. > > Order Bk p.174 [still the Jun 1677 Court at Westover] > The action of Jno. Coggan plt. and Allen Jenkings deft. is dismissed. > Peter Field plt. against the estate of Wm. Jenkings, decd, attachment > upon a horse by order 16 April last, sd. horse appraised by Jas. Wallis, > Jno. Poythress & Roger Reese and valued at 1000 lbs tob. But Jenkings > was indebted to Field for 1368 lbs. tob. Judgm. granted unto Field on > the horse also for 368 lbs. tob. > > Order Bk p.191 [13 Sep 1677 Court at Westover] > Jno. Finley aged 24 years deposes that about 16th of Sept. 1666 last he > was among a group brough[t] to Nevet Wheeler's in Martin Brandon. All > put in confinement and urged to join the rebels. Refusing he was > continued in confinement longer became ill and was dismissed. Referred > to a jury, Mr. Thos. Cocke, foreman: Mr. Jas. Gunn: Mr. Wm. Randolph: > Mr. Sampson Ellis: Mr. Tho. Hamlin: Mr. Jno Mayton: Mr. Jno. > Poythress: Mr. Rich. Pace: Mr. Thos. Gregory: Mr. Jno. Marshall: Mr. > Henry Burton: Mr. Jno. Hamlin. > > Order Bk p.205 [14 Sep 1677 Court at Westover] > Mr. Thos. Blayton as atty. of Mr. Jno. Sadler plt. presents that Henry > Preston deft. as for himself and as Extr. of Thos. Stevenson dec'd both > have forcibly entered and used a parcel of land of 50 acs. belonging to > John Sadler and for 26 years kept him from its possession. Damage asked > for 4000 lbs. tob. and restitution of the land. Referred to a Jury: Mr. > Wm. Randolph, foreman: Mr. Hen. Burton: Mr. Thos. Hamlin: Mr. Jas. > Gunn: Mr. Jno. Hamlin: Mr. Jno. Mayton: Mr. Jno. Poythris: Mr. Henry > Blanks: Mr. Thos. Gregory: Mr. Robt. Bolling: Mr. Jno. Marshall: Mr. > Wm. Harrison. The Jurors return their verdict. > > Order Bk p.210 [15 Sep 1677 Court at Westover] > Pres. Sept. 15. > Coll. Edw. Hill: Maj. Jno. Stith: Mr. Jno. Drayton: Capt. Fran. > Poythris > > Order Bk p.231 [19 Nov 1677 Court at Westover] > Upon pet. of Jno. Leigh showing that he came into the county a servant > to Capt. Thos. Mallory for the term of 4 years, and having served 2 > years longer than by the agreement he being sold by Capt. Mallory to Mr. > Jno. Poythris who yet claims a longer time of service. The court having > considered a certificate from the Corp. of Virginia produced for 4 years > it is ordered that Jno. Leigh remain with Mr. Mallory until the next > court when Mr. Poytress & Capt. Mallory may appear & show reason for his > longer service; if no reason sd. Leigh to be free. > > Order Bk pgs. 236: 237: 238 [19 Nov 1677 Court at Westover] > Where as at the death of Jno Barker of Flowerdew hundred all the tract > of land known as Flowerdew hundred did descend to Sarah then the wife of > Richard Taylor, dec'd, and now the wife of Robt. Lucy, and to Elizabeth > the wife of Phillip Lymbry, sister and co-heir with the sd. Jno. Barker > who since sd. Barker's decease have held the land in co-partnership at > incovenience to themselves and detriment of the land. Now the sd. Lucy & > wife and the sd. Lymbry & wife do wish the land divided and have > appealed to the court by mutual consent. Coll. Robt. Winn & Lt. Coll. > Geo. Jordan are empowered by court order dated 3 Apr. 1677, to do so. > Jas. Minge, surveyor, has been instructed to lay out the bounds dividing > sd. Flowerdew hundred into two equal parts, the north land bordering the > James River and Macock's land belonging to Dorothy, wife of Hubbert > Farrel; the other being a line of stakes parting the sd. Flowerdew > hundred in two parts. The south part is bordered by the east side of > James River by Flowerdew hundred Creek, by Macock's and by the above > line of stakes. A plan was drawn of the two halves, these 2 plans > framed, put into a hat, a child drew them out and gave one showing the > north part to the sd. Robt. Lucy & Sarah, his wife, and the south part > to Phillip Limbry and Elizabeth, his wife, the parties having agreed to > abide by the division & the drawing. 4 April 1673. > Wit: Robt. Wynn > Thos. Liggon > Jas. Minge > Thos. Blayton > > [Correction regarding Order Bk p.287: In the back of the volume of > transcriptions by Ayres that I consulted at the DAR Library in > Washington, DC, is a 13-page list of "Additions and Corrections" by > Frank E. Bradley, Jr. dated May 16, 1971. That list corrects the date > which was mis-typed as 1687, to the correct year of 1678. Thus this > entry should read as follows:] > > Order Bk p.287 > Court at Westover > 15 April 1678 > Pres: Coll. Jno. Epps: Maj. Jno. Stith: Mr. Thos. Grandon: Mr. Fra. > Poythress: Capt. Dan'l Lewellen. > > Order Bk p.287 cont'd [15 April 1678 Court at Westover] > Admin. is granted Mrs. Eliz. Mallory on the estate of Capt. Thos. > Mallory her dec'd husband. Capt. Fra. Poythres, security. > > Order Bk p.300 [cont'd 3 June 1678 Court at Westover, apparently after a > coffee break or lunch, there was a change in the justices present from > the ones shown on p.299, which Maynard had listed:] > Present: Mr. Thos. Grendon: Maj. Jno. Stith: Coll. Jno. Eppes: Capt. > Poythres: Mr. Ber. Sykes: Capt. Dan Lewellin. > > Order Bk p.320 [15 Aug 1678 Court at Westover] > Court adjourns for 1 hour. [and the justices were then joined by > Poythress who was not there earlier that day] > Present: Coll. Hill: Coll. Clark: Mr. Sikes: Mr. Grendon: Maj. > Stith: Capt. Poythress. > > Order Bk p.340 [4 Dec 1678 Court at Westover] > Pres: Coll. Edw. Hill: Mr. Bern Sikes: Mr. Dan'l Clark: Capt. > Poythres: Mr. Jno. Stith: Mr. Blayton: Mr. Tho. Grendon: Mr. Batt. > > [Correction re entry shown by Maynard for p.349 -- the entry he listed > re tax collection is actually on p.350. Following was the entry for > p.349:] > > Order Bk p.349 [6 Dec 1678 Court at Westover] > [authorized payment] To Maj. Poythres for 2 coroner's fees - 200 > > Order Bk p.350 [cont'd 6 Dec 1678 Court at Westover] > Ord. that Maj. Fra. Poythres collect [taxes] Jordan's Par. with Thomas > Blayton & Coll. Jno. Epps security > > Order Bk p.350 [cont'd 6 Dec 1678 Court at Westover. Here I think this > is a listing first of the tax/tithe that Francis owed, perhaps for the > collections he made at Jordan's, minus his salary and payment due to him > for a cask] > Maj. Fra. Poythres, Collector at Jordan's > To 93 at 51 1/2 per head --- 4789 > for cask & salary ---------- 956 > [net after subtracting:] 3833 > > Order Bk p.374 [minor correction to give date: 3 April 1679 Court at > Westover] > Maj. Poythress declares that he imprest a cow valued at 450 lbs. tob. > from John Hughson for use of soldiers. Certificate granted to the > Assembley. > > > ==== POYTHRESS Mailing List ==== > Poythress Genealogy Research Web > www.poythress.net > >

Referring to Maynard's great Word document that he has made available to us via the CD of info he has prepared, I have found these additional Poythress listings (and a Flowerdew Hundred listing) in the Charles City County, Virginia Order Book of 1676-1679, and a few minor corrections that I'll try to clarify. My comments will be in square brackets. Spelling here is as it was transcribed by abstractor & compiler Margaret McNeill Ayres, 1968: Order Bk p.173 [I offer just clarification on this one, since the date was given in Maynard's document as "00,00,1676" This page appears in the midst of info from the Jun 1677 Court at Westover] Action of Dr. Geo. Lee plt. and Capt. Fr. Poythress deft. referred to next court. Order Bk p.174 [still the Jun 1677 Court at Westover] The action of Jno. Coggan plt. and Allen Jenkings deft. is dismissed. Peter Field plt. against the estate of Wm. Jenkings, decd, attachment upon a horse by order 16 April last, sd. horse appraised by Jas. Wallis, Jno. Poythress & Roger Reese and valued at 1000 lbs tob. But Jenkings was indebted to Field for 1368 lbs. tob. Judgm. granted unto Field on the horse also for 368 lbs. tob. Order Bk p.191 [13 Sep 1677 Court at Westover] Jno. Finley aged 24 years deposes that about 16th of Sept. 1666 last he was among a group brough[t] to Nevet Wheeler's in Martin Brandon. All put in confinement and urged to join the rebels. Refusing he was continued in confinement longer became ill and was dismissed. Referred to a jury, Mr. Thos. Cocke, foreman: Mr. Jas. Gunn: Mr. Wm. Randolph: Mr. Sampson Ellis: Mr. Tho. Hamlin: Mr. Jno Mayton: Mr. Jno. Poythress: Mr. Rich. Pace: Mr. Thos. Gregory: Mr. Jno. Marshall: Mr. Henry Burton: Mr. Jno. Hamlin. Order Bk p.205 [14 Sep 1677 Court at Westover] Mr. Thos. Blayton as atty. of Mr. Jno. Sadler plt. presents that Henry Preston deft. as for himself and as Extr. of Thos. Stevenson dec'd both have forcibly entered and used a parcel of land of 50 acs. belonging to John Sadler and for 26 years kept him from its possession. Damage asked for 4000 lbs. tob. and restitution of the land. Referred to a Jury: Mr. Wm. Randolph, foreman: Mr. Hen. Burton: Mr. Thos. Hamlin: Mr. Jas. Gunn: Mr. Jno. Hamlin: Mr. Jno. Mayton: Mr. Jno. Poythris: Mr. Henry Blanks: Mr. Thos. Gregory: Mr. Robt. Bolling: Mr. Jno. Marshall: Mr. Wm. Harrison. The Jurors return their verdict. Order Bk p.210 [15 Sep 1677 Court at Westover] Pres. Sept. 15. Coll. Edw. Hill: Maj. Jno. Stith: Mr. Jno. Drayton: Capt. Fran. Poythris Order Bk p.231 [19 Nov 1677 Court at Westover] Upon pet. of Jno. Leigh showing that he came into the county a servant to Capt. Thos. Mallory for the term of 4 years, and having served 2 years longer than by the agreement he being sold by Capt. Mallory to Mr. Jno. Poythris who yet claims a longer time of service. The court having considered a certificate from the Corp. of Virginia produced for 4 years it is ordered that Jno. Leigh remain with Mr. Mallory until the next court when Mr. Poytress & Capt. Mallory may appear & show reason for his longer service; if no reason sd. Leigh to be free. Order Bk pgs. 236: 237: 238 [19 Nov 1677 Court at Westover] Where as at the death of Jno Barker of Flowerdew hundred all the tract of land known as Flowerdew hundred did descend to Sarah then the wife of Richard Taylor, dec'd, and now the wife of Robt. Lucy, and to Elizabeth the wife of Phillip Lymbry, sister and co-heir with the sd. Jno. Barker who since sd. Barker's decease have held the land in co-partnership at incovenience to themselves and detriment of the land. Now the sd. Lucy & wife and the sd. Lymbry & wife do wish the land divided and have appealed to the court by mutual consent. Coll. Robt. Winn & Lt. Coll. Geo. Jordan are empowered by court order dated 3 Apr. 1677, to do so. Jas. Minge, surveyor, has been instructed to lay out the bounds dividing sd. Flowerdew hundred into two equal parts, the north land bordering the James River and Macock's land belonging to Dorothy, wife of Hubbert Farrel; the other being a line of stakes parting the sd. Flowerdew hundred in two parts. The south part is bordered by the east side of James River by Flowerdew hundred Creek, by Macock's and by the above line of stakes. A plan was drawn of the two halves, these 2 plans framed, put into a hat, a child drew them out and gave one showing the north part to the sd. Robt. Lucy & Sarah, his wife, and the south part to Phillip Limbry and Elizabeth, his wife, the parties having agreed to abide by the division & the drawing. 4 April 1673. Wit: Robt. Wynn Thos. Liggon Jas. Minge Thos. Blayton [Correction regarding Order Bk p.287: In the back of the volume of transcriptions by Ayres that I consulted at the DAR Library in Washington, DC, is a 13-page list of "Additions and Corrections" by Frank E. Bradley, Jr. dated May 16, 1971. That list corrects the date which was mis-typed as 1687, to the correct year of 1678. Thus this entry should read as follows:] Order Bk p.287 Court at Westover 15 April 1678 Pres: Coll. Jno. Epps: Maj. Jno. Stith: Mr. Thos. Grandon: Mr. Fra. Poythress: Capt. Dan'l Lewellen. Order Bk p.287 cont'd [15 April 1678 Court at Westover] Admin. is granted Mrs. Eliz. Mallory on the estate of Capt. Thos. Mallory her dec'd husband. Capt. Fra. Poythres, security. Order Bk p.300 [cont'd 3 June 1678 Court at Westover, apparently after a coffee break or lunch, there was a change in the justices present from the ones shown on p.299, which Maynard had listed:] Present: Mr. Thos. Grendon: Maj. Jno. Stith: Coll. Jno. Eppes: Capt. Poythres: Mr. Ber. Sykes: Capt. Dan Lewellin. Order Bk p.320 [15 Aug 1678 Court at Westover] Court adjourns for 1 hour. [and the justices were then joined by Poythress who was not there earlier that day] Present: Coll. Hill: Coll. Clark: Mr. Sikes: Mr. Grendon: Maj. Stith: Capt. Poythress. Order Bk p.340 [4 Dec 1678 Court at Westover] Pres: Coll. Edw. Hill: Mr. Bern Sikes: Mr. Dan'l Clark: Capt. Poythres: Mr. Jno. Stith: Mr. Blayton: Mr. Tho. Grendon: Mr. Batt. [Correction re entry shown by Maynard for p.349 -- the entry he listed re tax collection is actually on p.350. Following was the entry for p.349:] Order Bk p.349 [6 Dec 1678 Court at Westover] [authorized payment] To Maj. Poythres for 2 coroner's fees - 200 Order Bk p.350 [cont'd 6 Dec 1678 Court at Westover] Ord. that Maj. Fra. Poythres collect [taxes] Jordan's Par. with Thomas Blayton & Coll. Jno. Epps security Order Bk p.350 [cont'd 6 Dec 1678 Court at Westover. Here I think this is a listing first of the tax/tithe that Francis owed, perhaps for the collections he made at Jordan's, minus his salary and payment due to him for a cask] Maj. Fra. Poythres, Collector at Jordan's To 93 at 51 1/2 per head --- 4789 for cask & salary ---------- 956 [net after subtracting:] 3833 Order Bk p.374 [minor correction to give date: 3 April 1679 Court at Westover] Maj. Poythress declares that he imprest a cow valued at 450 lbs. tob. from John Hughson for use of soldiers. Certificate granted to the Assembley.

I would like a copy of this if possible Cindy. Thank you Crystal -----Original Message----- >From: CLamb5582@aol.com >Sent: Feb 14, 2006 1:50 PM >To: POYTHRESS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: Located sister of Whitney F. Poythress, Jr. > >Barbara, > >I also have a picture of John Washington Poythress with Anna Reed who is my >gg parents if you would like to have a copy of it. The picture is the size of >8 x 10 > >Cindy > > >==== POYTHRESS Mailing List ==== >Poythress Genealogy Research Web >www.poythress.net >

Cindy You have the Northampton County Group. The list with birthdates are the children of Richard and Ada Turner Poythress. Richard is the son of James Poythress of Northampton County. Ada is the daughter of Allen Turner and Eliza Scott. I have the information for these lines if you need them. Are you the one that descends from the Poythress/Newsome line? Crystal -----Original Message----- >From: CLamb5582@aol.com >Sent: Feb 14, 2006 1:23 PM >To: POYTHRESS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: Located sister of Whitney F. Poythress, Jr. > >Barbara, > >I am sorry I do not have no dates. I just have names trying to knock down >the brick wall. > >My aunt was given some about the Poythress. Looks like someone made copies >out of a book. Front of the papers it has Kippax Plantation: Traders, >Merchants, and Planters by Donald W. Linebaugh. It mentions about the Poythress and >Robert Bland. If you would like to have a copy of this I will send it to your >home. > >Also, have a paper with people names on it and when they were born look like >it came out of a Bible. They are: > >Charley Poythress born May 3rd. 1869 >Nillianne Poythress born October 15, 1871 >Jimmie Poythress born September 12th 1875 >Richard Poythress born October 16th 1875 >India Poythress born May 14th 1878 >Jarrett Poythress born November 12th 1880 >Beatrice Poythress born July 18th 1882 >Robert Poythress born May 3rd 1884 >Sarah Poythress born August 26th 1887 >Mary Poythress born 6th 1890 >Jimmie Poythress born March 3rd 1893 > >another piece of paper says >Father: Plumk or Plumh Poythress >Mother: Ad Turner Poythress >Buried: North Hampton County > >Cindy > > > > >==== POYTHRESS Mailing List ==== >Poythress Genealogy Research Web >www.poythress.net >

Cindy was responding to my message that mentioned that the grandparents of "Billy" Whitney F. Poythress & his sister Patsy, were Simeon & Ola Poythress (Patsy said her grandfather's name is pronounced like "Simon"), and that Patsy was thrilled to learn from what I relayed to her about Elaine's census work, in which Elaine found that Simeon was a son of George W. Poythress, and we had concluded that George W. was likely a son of David Poythress of Mecklenburg Co, VA. (See bottom, here, for recap of these censuses) However, as Maynard's and Cindy's questions have pointed out, the name "George Washington Poythress" was not so unusual. So perhaps I was too hasty in my earlier conclusion that the "George W" who was father of Simeon was the same "George W" who was son of David. Maynard, I think the birthdate of the George Washington Poythress you mentioned was 13 January 1819 -- Do I have that right? And did Hester's brother list the state or town for any of the births he recorded? & I'm curious -- in what was Mr. Mock (Hester's brother) recording these births? Thanks! Barbara = = = Census recap mentioned above: In the 1870 Census (in Person Co, NC), George W & his wife Permelia have their own household in Flat River Township, with father shown as "Geo. W. Poyetress" age 31, male, white, farm laborer born in VA, cannot read or write." Among the 5 children in the household (ages 3 months to 8 yrs) is Simeon, age 2, born NC. In 2 earlier censuses: (1) David Poythress' 1850 Census household (Mecklenburg Co, VA), 9-yr old George was shown without a middle initial; but in (2) David Poythress' 1860 Census household (Warren Co, NC, where the Census-taker listed every person on the page just with first & middle initials), the then 19-yr old young man in the household is shown as "G.W" with the middle initial being quite clear on the Census record.

Barbara, I also have a picture of John Washington Poythress with Anna Reed who is my gg parents if you would like to have a copy of it. The picture is the size of 8 x 10 Cindy

Barbara, I am sorry I do not have no dates. I just have names trying to knock down the brick wall. My aunt was given some about the Poythress. Looks like someone made copies out of a book. Front of the papers it has Kippax Plantation: Traders, Merchants, and Planters by Donald W. Linebaugh. It mentions about the Poythress and Robert Bland. If you would like to have a copy of this I will send it to your home. Also, have a paper with people names on it and when they were born look like it came out of a Bible. They are: Charley Poythress born May 3rd. 1869 Nillianne Poythress born October 15, 1871 Jimmie Poythress born September 12th 1875 Richard Poythress born October 16th 1875 India Poythress born May 14th 1878 Jarrett Poythress born November 12th 1880 Beatrice Poythress born July 18th 1882 Robert Poythress born May 3rd 1884 Sarah Poythress born August 26th 1887 Mary Poythress born 6th 1890 Jimmie Poythress born March 3rd 1893 another piece of paper says Father: Plumk or Plumh Poythress Mother: Ad Turner Poythress Buried: North Hampton County Cindy

Cindy, Barbara......I guess I got to this conversation late but there is another George Washington Poythress, son of Meredith Poythress, Sr. & second wife Hester Wilder Mock. There is virtually no record of him except the recording of his birthdate by Hester's brother who also recorded the same for the other 4 children of this union. I guess if you two are talking about a VA George W. Poythress there isn't a chance of a connection. Maynard -----Original Message----- From: Barbara P. Neal [mailto:bp_neal@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 11:43 PM To: POYTHRESS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Located sister of Whitney F. Poythress, Jr. Cindy, I haven't seen anywhere what the "W" in George W Poythress' name stood for, but certainly it would be logical at that time that he could have been named George Washington Poythress. Do you have the dates of your great-great-grandfather's birth & death; if so I'd sure appreciate having them. Thanks for writing, Barbara ==== POYTHRESS Mailing List ==== The Poythress Genealogy List is hosted by RootsWeb. To learn more about Rootsweb please visit http://www.rootsweb.com/

Cindy, I haven't seen anywhere what the "W" in George W Poythress' name stood for, but certainly it would be logical at that time that he could have been named George Washington Poythress. Do you have the dates of your great-great-grandfather's birth & death; if so I'd sure appreciate having them. Thanks for writing, Barbara

Barbara, What does the W stand for in George W. Poythress? Is it Washington? My great great grand father was George Washington Poythress. Thanks, Cindy

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Just found among material I am trying to organize, the following notes which amplify info that Michael provided in the two quotations (at the bottom here) from his 12/12/2005 message captioned "Mr. Joshua Poythress, Merchant, of Flowerdew Hundred, Prince George County, 3rd Generation." This material not only provides more info re the Hardiman name in the context of Flower dew Hundred, but also clarifies the relationship of the people from whom Joshua (also referred to as Joseph in the deeds) acquired the property. The Captain John Taylor who was father of the 3 daughters mentioned was of course a much earlier Taylor than Rebecca B. Taylor who married Lewis Poythress in April 1802. We don't know the names of Rebecca's parents, but it is interesting to consider the possibility that her line may have included this Captain John Taylor. I made these first notes years ago at the Newberry Library in Chicago, copied from the very old book "The Cradle of the Republic: Jamestown and James River," by Lyon Gardiner Tyler, LL D, President of the College of William & Mary; published by The Hermitage Press, Inc., Richmond, VA 1906: p.211 Flower dew Hundred: "At the close of the century [Bpn note: around 1700] it was owned by Captain John Taylor, of Prince George County, who devised it to his daughters, Henrietta Maria, and Sarah, who married respectively John and Francis Hardiman. They sold it to Joseph Poythress..." [Bpn note: this is the 1725 transaction Michael Tutor refers to, below] I also find more clarifying info in a sheet provided by Flower de Hundred when I visited there in the mid-1990s, which sheet was info prepared by John Frederick Dorman and which traced the ownership of Flower dew Hundred. Its first paragraph also refers to Captain Taylor and clarifies more re his daughters: "The Flower de Hundred tract was acquired by Joshua Poythress from two of the daughters of Capt. John Taylor, the previous owner. He bought 300 acres on 9-10 July 1725 for 300 pounds from John Hardyman (who married Henrietta Maria Taylor, and had previously bought 150 acres of this from Francis Hardyman and whife Sarah, another Taylor daughter) and an additional 250 acres on 6 Oct 1732 from Mrs. Elizabeth Duke, the third Taylor daughter." 12/12/2005 Michael Tutor wrote: > ... > The Third Generation: Mr. Joshua Poythress, Merchant, of Flowerdew > Hundred, Prince George County > R. Bolling Batte on Joshua Poythress > [21 Joshua Poythress (-1740), m. ______. The name of the wife of this > Joshua has never been proved. The fact that one of his sons was named > "Littlebury" suggests that she may have been an Eppes or a Hardyman. In > 1725, John Hardyman, whose mother had been Mary Eppes 124, and whose > grandmother had been Elizabeth Littlebury, conveyed to "Joseph" > Poythress 300 acres, part of the Flowerdew Hundred Tract in Prince > George. The consideration expressed was 5 shillings, which means that it > was a deed of gift. John Hardyman had actually paid 600 pounds lawful > money of England for 150 of the same 300 acres he was now giving away. > The "Joseph" named as grantee in the deed was certainly an error in > transliteration. Joshua was intended, not "Joseph." This will be clear > later when Joshua's grandson William (211 2) sells the same land to > Peachy 65 years later. Why should John Hardyman give valuable land away > to Joshua Poythress? A most likely answer would be that a Joshua > Poythress had married a close relative of John Hardyman, a daughter or a > sister. By 1725, John and Henrietta Maria Hardyman would hardly have a > daughter old enough to marry. He had sisters, however. Their names do > not appear in any known record but their existence is established by the > 1726 will of Littlebury Hardeman, brother of John, which leaves one > shilling "to each and every one of my brothers and sisters." These > circumstances, plus the existence of a Hardyman Poythress in Prince > George, bolster a growing suspicion that the wife of Joshua Poythress > was a daughter of John Hardyman, Sr. and Mary Eppes, his wife, and thus > a granddaughter of Francis and Elizabeth (Littlebury-Worsham) Epes. > Hardyman Poythress, as yet unidentified, in 1809, may have been a > grandson of Joshua Poythress. Joshua left a will dated January 17, 1739 > (o.s.) in which he leaves property to his wife (but inconsiderately > fails to name her), and to three sons, three daughters, brothers > William, Robert, and others. The original will is now in the archives of > the Virginia State Library (Accession 23849). > ... > On October 9, 1732, Elizabeth Duke, of the County of Prince George, > Widow, sold to Joshua Poythress, Merchant, of Prince George County, > the plantation commonly known by the name of Flower de Hundred, 250 > acres, in Martin's Brandon parish, in Prince George County, > beginning on the line of the land of Joshua Poythress. > ...