The request of "I must have missed it. Could you please repost the will? Thank you." from Sallymell reminds me to mention to everyone on the List that you can check for any messages you've missed in the List's Archives. There are two places to check, where ALL the lists' messages are archived: (1) http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl [Note: the ending of that is "PL" as in the word "place" - not a number] After you get to that page, you type into the box the name of whatever List you are wanting to search; in this case you would type "Poythress" but you can use that same address to search on any name you can think of & if that family name has an email list, you can read their archived messages, too. (2) you can also check the Threaded List Archives, at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ [and again put in Poythress to check the messages of our List] = = = = In the January 1972, Vol. X, Issue No.1, "Virginia Genealogical Society Quarterly" (long out of print) is an article (pp. 3-13) entitled "Unrecorded Wills of Dinwiddie County" which was "contributed by Mrs. E.B. Short, Dinwiddie, Virginia 23841." The article has no introductory notes, and no notes following the transcribed wills. Presumably these unrecorded wills were found by Mrs. Short at the Dinwiddie County, VA Courthouse. The following transcription is on the bottom of p.4 of the above-mentioned article (with spelling, capitalization, sentence structure & punctuation as shown in the article): MARY POYTHRESS I Mary Poythress of the County of Dinwiddie being very sick and weak but in perfect mind and memory thanks be to God; and calling to mind that all must die and return to dust from whence they came, so make and ordain this my last will and Testament - I do give, devise and bequeath to my Loving Daughter Tabitha Poythress and her heirs forever, whatever falls or belongs to me by Law, of my Dec'd husband Edward Poythress' estate. I do choose and appoint William FitzGarrett and my [___]ter Tabitha Poythress Executors of this my last will and Testament. Witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and offered my seal this 21st day of July 1772. Mary [her mark] Poythress Signed, sealed published and Declared in presence of John Cryer Thos. Anderson Thomas Rogers Elizabeth Poythress ----------------------- Internet Header -------------------------------- Sender: [email protected] Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by sphmgaad.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.9) with ESMTP id RAA07879; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:03:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from [email protected]) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f28M2fe30353; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:02:41 -0700 Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:02:41 -0700 X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Thu Mar 8 15:02:24 2001 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:02:05 -0500 From: Charles Neal <[email protected]> Subject: Mary Poythress, Dinwiddie Co unrec will 1772 Sender: Charles Neal <[email protected]> Old-To: "A, POYTHRESS List" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists5.rootsweb.com id f28M2Ob29712 Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Resent-From: [email protected] X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/3248 X-Loop: [email protected] Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [email protected] <

# 5 Joshua Poythress Generations 3 Draft compilation Generation No. 3 6. JOSHUA5 POYTHRESS (JOSHUA4, JOSHUA3, JOHN2, FRANCIS1) was born 1751 in VA [(P-1) BAA A], and died 1787 in at "Flowerdew Hundred" Prince George County VA. He married ELIZABETH ROBERTSON 1780, daughter of ARCHIBALD ROBERTSON and ELIZABETH FITZGERALD. She was born in VA [(P-1) BBC E] [BAA A (W)], and died September 07, 1787. Children of JOSHUA POYTHRESS and ELIZABETH ROBERTSON are: i. ELIZABETH6 POYTHRESS, d. 1800. ii. MARY POYTHRESS. iii. SUSANNA PEACHY POYTHRESS, b. 1785, VA [(P-1) BAA AA]; d. 1815, [before 1850 also given] "Flowerdew Hundred," PG, VA; m. JOHN VAUGHAN WILLCOX, 1804; b. August 11, 1779; d. November 23, 1863. 7. WILLIAM5 POYTHRESS (JOSHUA4, JOSHUA3, JOHN2, FRANCIS1) was born Bef. 1765 in VA [(P-1) BAA B]. He married MARY GILLIAM, daughter of JOHN GILLIAM and JANE HENRY. She was born in VA [BAA B (W)]. Children of WILLIAM POYTHRESS and MARY GILLIAM are: i. JOSHUA6 POYTHRESS, b. 1784, [BAA BA]; d. Aft. 1854, probably in New Jersey; m. JANE MILLS ANGUS, 1810. ii. THOMAS EPPES POYTHRESS, b. 1800; d. 1847; m. BEERSHEEBA BRYANT. iii. WILLIAM POYTHRESS, b. No issue. iv. PATRICK HENRY POYTHRESS, b. [(P-1) BAA BD]; d. 1822; m. MARY ELIZABETH EPPES; b. 1795. v. MARY POYTHRESS, b. 1793. 8. ELIZABETH5 POYTHRESS (JOSHUA4, JOSHUA3, JOHN2, FRANCIS1) was born 1755 in VA [(P-1) BAA C][142 AAB C]. She married (1) SIMON FRASER. He was born in Scotland [(P-1) BAA C (H)], and died 1792. She married (2) JAMES COCKE, son of BENJAMIN COCKE and UNKNOWN UNKNOWN. He was born in [(C-9) BCB A "Bon Accord", and died 1787 in [?]. Children of ELIZABETH POYTHRESS and SIMON FRASER are: i. JANET C6 FRASER, b. VA [(P-1) BAA CA]; m. (1) ROBERT BLUNT; m. (2) AUGUSTINE CLAIBORNE. ii. MARY DONALD FRASER, b. VA [(P-1) BAA CB]; m. (1) JOHN RANDOLPH; m. (2) DANIEL WELDON; m. (3) SAMUEL BLUNT. iii. JOSHUA FRASER, b. VA [(P-1) BAA CC]. iv. ANGUS MACDONALD FRASER, b. VA [(P-1) BAA CD]. v. ANN LOUGHTON FRASER, b. VA [(P-1) BAA CE]. vi. ELIZABETH MILLS FRASER, b. VA [(P-1) BAA CF]; m. RYLAND RANDOLPH, Abt. 1794; b. Abt. 1764, VA ((R-1) 516]. Children of ELIZABETH POYTHRESS and JAMES COCKE are: vii. JAMES6 COCKE. viii. ELIZABETH COCKE, b. VA [(C-9) BCB AB]VA [(P-1) BAA CB][142 AAB CB]; m. JACOB HOFFMAN; b. lived in Baltimore, MD. ix. JOHN POYTHRESS COCKE, m. ELIZABETH BUCHANAN PETER. x. THOMAS POYTHRESS COCKE, b. July 31, 1774; d. February 22, 1840, lived in Aberdeen; m. SARAH COLLEY, 1810. xi. BENJAMIN COCKE, m. MARY EPES. 9. SUSANNA (SUSAN ANN)5 POYTHRESS (JOSHUA4, JOSHUA3, JOHN2, FRANCIS1) was born 1766 in VA [(P-1) BAA D], and died 1799 in Blandford, Virginia. She married DAVID MAITLAND October 25, 1788 in Prince Georges County, VA, son of DAVID MAITLAND and MARY CURRIE. He was born 1759 in Barcaple, Scotland, and died May 18, 1838 in Barcaple in Scotland. Children of SUSANNA POYTHRESS and DAVID MAITLAND are: i. ELIZABETH AGNES6 MAITLAND, b. April 23, 1793; d. 1865, Scotland, probably. ii. MARIE CURRIE MAITLAND, b. December 12, 1790; d. January 27, 1794, D. young. iii. SUSAN POYTHRESS MAITLAND, b. October 23, 1798; d. May 20, 1840, At Fludha, Scotland. 10. RICHARD5 EPES (MARY4 POYTHRESS, JOSHUA3, JOHN2, FRANCIS1) was born August 13, 1771 in VA "Walnut Hill"[(P-1) BAF E], and died March 24, 1829. He married MARTHA GREENHILL WILLIAMS, daughter of THOMAS WILLIAMS and CATHERINE GREENHILL. Children of RICHARD EPES and MARTHA WILLIAMS are: i. PETER6 EPES, b. VA [(P-1) BAF DA]; m. MARTHA COSWELL OLIVER. ii. RICHARD EPES, b. VA [(P-1) BAF DB]. iii. WILLIAM EPES, b. VA [(P-1) BAF DC]; m. LUCY JANE EPES. iv. RICHARD FRANCES EPES, b. VA [(P-1) BAF DD]. v. MARTHA ANN EPES, b. VA [(P-1) BAF DE] died young. vi. MARY ELIZABETH EPES, b. VA [(P-1) BAF DF]; m. LEWELLYN ARCHER JONES. vii. CATHERINE GREENHILL EPES, b. VA [(P-1) BAF DG]; m. PETER J. GRIGG. viii. SARAH ROPER EPES, b. VA [(P-1) BAF DH]; m. LITTLETON LEWELLYN TAYLOR. ix. MARTHA ANN EPES, b. VA [(P-1) BAF DI]; m. WILLIAM THOMAS JOLLY. 11. MARY ELIZABETH POYTHRESS5 EPES (MARY4 POYTHRESS, JOSHUA3, JOHN2, FRANCIS1) was born in VA [(P-1) BAF H]. She married JOHN DOSWELL, son of THOMAS DOSWELL and REBECCA DRUMMOND. He was born 1744 in BAF HA, and died 1820. Children of MARY EPES and JOHN DOSWELL are: i. JOHN PEYTON6 DOSWELL, b. 1787, [[P-1) BAF HA]; d. 1820; m. POCAHANTAS REBECCA CABELL. ii. FRANCES SUSAN DOSWELL, b. VA [(P-1) BAF HB]; m. (1) HENRY STANARD BEVERLY; m. (2) FRANCES WASHINGTON EPES; b. [(E-1) 122 134 2]. iii. MARY EPES POYTHRESS DOSWELL, b. VA [(P-1) BAF HC]; m. DAVID GREENHILL WILLIAMS. iv. SARAH EPES DOSWELL, b. VA [(P-1) BAF HD]; m. BENJAMIN WILLIAM CABELL. v. MARTHA DOSWELL, b. VA [(P-1) BAF HE]; m. COLIN BUCKNER.

#4 Joshua Poythress [(P-1) BA] Generations 1 & 2 Draft Compilation Descendants of Joshua Poythress Generation No. 1 1. JOSHUA3 POYTHRESS (JOHN2, FRANCIS1) was born Bef. 1689 in VA of "Flower de Hundred" [(P-1) BA] Also of "High Peaks", and died 1739 in Prince Georges County VA. He married MARY HARDYMAN, daughter of JOHN HARDYMAN and MARY EPES. She was born in [Her name speculative? First Only? See Chart A and Poythress Card 96]. Children of JOSHUA POYTHRESS and MARY HARDYMAN are: 2. i. JOSHUA4 POYTHRESS, b. 1720, VA [(P-1) BAA]; d. Bef. 1782. ii. LITTLEBURY POYTHRESS, b. VA [(P-1) BAB] died without issue. iii. WILLIAM POYTHRESS, b. Aft. 1718, VA [(P-1) BAC] no issue; d. Aft. 1779. 3. iv. ANN POYTHRESS, b. VA [(P-1) BAD]. 4. v. ELIZABETH POYTHRESS, b. 1725, VA [(P-1) BAE] [no issue]; d. 1795. 5. vi. MARY POYTHRESS, b. VA [(P-1)BAF]; d. January 25, 1792, "High Peak" Prince Georges County, VA. Generation No. 2 2. JOSHUA4 POYTHRESS (JOSHUA3, JOHN2, FRANCIS1) was born 1720 in VA [(P-1) BAA], and died Bef. 1782. He married MARY SHORT, daughter of WILLIAM SHORT and MARY UNKNOWN. She was born in VA [(P-1) BAA (W)], and died February 1788 in Prince Georges County, VA. Children of JOSHUA POYTHRESS and MARY SHORT are: 6. i. JOSHUA5 POYTHRESS, b. 1751, VA [(P-1) BAA A]; d. 1787, at "Flowerdew Hundred" Prince George County VA. 7. ii. WILLIAM POYTHRESS, b. Bef. 1765, VA [(P-1) BAA B]. 8. iii. ELIZABETH POYTHRESS, b. 1755, VA [(P-1) BAA C][142 AAB C]. 9. iv. SUSANNA (SUSAN ANN) POYTHRESS, b. 1766, VA [(P-1) BAA D]; d. 1799, Blandford, Virginia. 3. ANN4 POYTHRESS (JOSHUA3, JOHN2, FRANCIS1) was born in VA [(P-1) BAD]. She married JOHN WALL. He was born in VA [(P-1) BAD (H)]. Children of ANN POYTHRESS and JOHN WALL are: i. NANCY5 WALL, b. {Dorman source}. ii. ANN WALL, b. {Dorman source}. iii. JOHN WALL, b. {Dorman source}. 4. ELIZABETH4 POYTHRESS (JOSHUA3, JOHN2, FRANCIS1) was born 1725 in VA [(P-1) BAE] [no issue], and died 1795. She married (1) WALTER BOYD. He was born in VA, and died November 18, 1770 in Blandford, Virginia. She married (2) JAMES MILLS September 1771. He was born April 04, 1718 in VA of Urbanna, Middlesex, earlier of Rappahanock, and died Bef. January 28, 1782 in Middlesex County. She married (3) THOMAS G. PEACHY September 22, 1783, son of SAMUEL PEACHY and WINIFRED GRIFFIN. He was born December 13, 1734, and died in Williamsburg, VA. Children of ELIZABETH POYTHRESS and THOMAS PEACHY are: i. THOMAS GRIFFIN5 PEACHY, b. VA [(Step[(P-1) BAE A]; Stepchild. ii. JOHN PEACHY, b. VA [(Step[(P-1) BAE B ]No issue; Stepchild. iii. WILLIAM SAMUEL PEACHY, b. VA [(Step[(P-1) BAE C]No issue; Stepchild. 5. MARY4 POYTHRESS (JOSHUA3, JOHN2, FRANCIS1) was born in VA [(P-1)BAF], and died January 25, 1792 in "High Peak" Prince Georges County, VA. She married PETER EPES Abt. 1752, son of FRANCIS EPES and SARAH HAMLIN. He was born 1730 in VA of "High Peaks"(E-1) 122 13, and died 1811. Children of MARY POYTHRESS and PETER EPES are: i. WILLIAM5 EPES, b. VA [(P-1)BAF A]; m. MARY BATTE; b. [Batte 142 34]. ii. FRANCIS EPES, b. VA [(P-1)BAF B]; m. SARAH WILLIAMS. iii. PETER EPES, b. VA [(P-1)BAF C]; m. (1) REBECCA CROSS; m. (2) MARGARET BAKER COWAN. iv. ANN ELIZABETH EPES, b. VA [(P-1)BAF D]; m. (1) CHARLES CONNOR; m. (2) UNKNOWN HARRIS; m. (3) UNKNOWN BYERS. 10. v. RICHARD EPES, b. August 13, 1771, VA "Walnut Hill"[(P-1) BAF E]; d. March 24, 1829. vi. SARAH EPES, b. VA [(P-1)BAF F]; m. ISAAC OLIVER. vii. SUSANNA EPES, b. VA [(P-1)BAF G]; m. JOHN EPES; b. [(E-1) 113 231]. 11. viii. MARY ELIZABETH POYTHRESS EPES, b. VA [(P-1) BAF H]. ix. MARTHA EPES, b. VA [(P-1)BAF H].

#3 Some background (P-1), as you most probably all know, is R. Bolling Batte's designation for the Poythress family. There are other families that get P-2, P-3, etc. Batte also uses P to number his publications, but that shouldn't confuse you too much. My goal is a trial compilation of the descendants of Francis Poythress and Mary, plus those of Mary and Robert Wynne, as they appear in the work of Mr. Batte. I only stray to other sources at this point in my work when those sources are solid, they move the project along, and where Mr. Batte was imprecise or confusing. This occurs infrequently. For me, this has been an exercise in understanding the relationship of many families of my personal tree. My primary goal has been to sort out the relationships and to attach the right index cards to each person and family. It is my hope that others can use the results for that purpose, but I would also hope that those searching for a connection to this family may get clues from their cousins of a similar time period. As it works out, I have taken a rather ambitious suggestion from Maynard to include a good bit of family information about the Epes (E-1), the Blands (B-1), the Bollings (B-2) the Randolphs, both (R-1) and (R-2), among others. The Battes, the family of the genealogist (who is a Francis Poythress descendant), are at times simply assigned numbers. However, the Battes after three generations often start getting letters as well as numbers. R. Bolling Batte is himself 148 317 521, but as a descendant of Amy Batte, my grandmother is 134 AEA CBA B. Each letter or number refers to the place in the family order in a particular generation. By counting the digits of letters, you can determine the number of generations. The space between three digits/letters is there only to help the reader. I am reminded in reviewing the frequent intermarriage of cousins during the Colonial period that Mendel and Darwin and all our current attitudes toward genetics have their genesis in the 19th Century. So far my software has managed to handle the loops from one intermarriage to the next, but the family is quite full of such loops. Not only that, it was quite common for siblings of one family group to marry several times into the sibling group of another family. In Batte's trial chart A he used numbers for the Poythress family, but it's clear from looking at thousands of cards that his preference in later years was the letter system. It is helpful particularly where children in the families exceeded 9 in number. It is sometimes tricky as my sense of the alphabetical order isn't as developed as my sense of number. My data base strives to contain descendants mentioned by Batte primarily of the 17th and 18th Centuries, and into the 19th Century. A few stray into the 20th Century. Diana

#2 These are--in my draft compilation--the other children of Mary Poythress, whose maiden name isn't discovered by R. Bolling Batte. Mr. Batte has done less work on this branch of the family, but they are important to me because they are related, and because they intermarried with the other side of the family. One of my goals is to get a sense of the interaction of family members and another is to provide a framework for research. Comment is welcomed. Descendants of Robert Wynne Generation No. 1 1. COLONEL ROBERT2 WYNNE (PETER1) was born 1622 in Canterbury, Kent, England, and died 1675. He married MARY UNKNOWN Abt. 1655. She was born in (P-1) W, and died Aft. 1675 in VA. Children of ROBERT WYNNE and MARY UNKNOWN are: 2. i. THOMAS3 WYNNE, b. 1657, Prince Georges County, VA; d. 1717. ii. ROBERT WYNNE, b. Died young; d. 1675. 3. iii. JOSHUA WYNNE, d. 1715. 4. iv. MARY WYNNE. Generation No. 2 2. THOMAS3 WYNNE (ROBERT2, PETER1) was born 1657 in Prince Georges County, VA, and died 1717. He married (1) AGNES STITH, daughter of JOHN STITH and JANE UNKNOWN. He married (2) UNKNOWN UNKNOWN. Children of THOMAS WYNNE and AGNES STITH are: 5. i. THOMAS4 WYNNE. ii. LUCY WYNNE. iii. MARY WYNNE, m. NATHANIEL MALONE. 6. iv. ROBERT WYNNE. 3. JOSHUA3 WYNNE (ROBERT2, PETER1) died 1715. He married MARY JONES, daughter of PETER JONES and MARTHA CRUSE. Children of JOSHUA WYNNE and MARY JONES are: 7. i. PETER4 WYNNE, d. Abt. 1738, Prince Georges County, VA. ii. MARY WYNNE. 4. MARY3 WYNNE (ROBERT2, PETER1) She married JOHN WOODLIEF. Child of MARY WYNNE and JOHN WOODLIEF is: i. GEORGE4 WOODLIEF, m. ELIZABETH WALLACE. Generation No. 3 5. THOMAS4 WYNNE (THOMAS3, ROBERT2, PETER1) He married ANNE BOLLING, daughter of ROBERT BOLLING and ANNE STITH. She was born in [(B-2) E]. Child of THOMAS WYNNE and ANNE BOLLING is: i. LUCRETIA5 WYNNE, m. JOHN COX. 6. ROBERT4 WYNNE (THOMAS3, ROBERT2, PETER1) He married (1) MARTHA JEFFERSON, daughter of THOMAS JEFFERSON and MARY BRANCH. He married (2) MARY UNKNOWN. Children of ROBERT WYNNE and MARTHA JEFFERSON are: i. LUCRETIA5 WYNNE, m. JOSEPH TUCKER. ii. MARTHA WYNNE, m. MATTHEW PARHAM; b. {a card present, but info speculative}. iii. ANGELICA WYNNE, m. WILLIAM RAINES. iv. CORNELIA WYNNE, m. BENJAMIN BELL. v. ANNE WYNNE, m. THOMAS BUTLER. 7. PETER4 WYNNE (JOSHUA3, ROBERT2, PETER1) died Abt. 1738 in Prince Georges County, VA. He married FRANCES ANDERSON. She died 1725. Child of PETER WYNNE and FRANCES ANDERSON is: i. PETER5 WYNNE.

#1 Here begins my posting of my compilation Francis Poythress's and Mary Unknown Poythress Wynne's descendants as derived from the work of genealogist R. Bolling Batte. Mary, who some--but never Batte-- would call "Sloman", married Robert Wynne as her second husband. This draft effort strives to unravel the index cards by R. Bolling Batte. On a few occasions, especially where Mr. Batte is hesitant, I may supplement his work with that of others but in those cases, I will cite the source. I will explain some of my choices in format in a later email. Comment is encouraged. Additions, where sources are provided, are also welcomed. For instance, I have acquired a baptism date for Francis, but I don't have a source, and Mr. Batte doesn't provide it or a source. Can someone help? Descendants of Francis Poythress Generation No. 1 1. CAPTAIN FRANCIS1 POYTHRESS was born in Gloucester, England (P-1), and died Bet. 1648 - 1655 in VA, Immigrated from England, there by 1633. He married MARY UNKNOWN. She was (P-1) W, and died Aft. 1675 in VA. Children of FRANCIS POYTHRESS and MARY UNKNOWN are: 2. i. JANE2 POYTHRESS, b. Bef. 1627, [(P-1) A]; d. VA. 3. ii. JOHN POYTHRESS, b. Bef. 1628, [(P-1) B]; d. Aft. 1694, VA Charles City ?. iii. THOMAS POYTHRESS, b. Bef. 1629, [(P-1) C]. 4. iv. MAJ. FRANCIS POYTHRESS, b. Abt. 1630, [(P-1) D]; d. Abt. 1688, VA. Generation No. 2 2. JANE2 POYTHRESS (FRANCIS1) was born Bef. 1627 in [(P-1) A], and died in VA. She married THOMAS ROLFE, son of JOHN ROLFE and POCHAHONTA UNNAMED. Child of JANE POYTHRESS and THOMAS ROLFE is: 5. i. JANE3 ROLFE, b. Bef. 1660, [(P-1) AA] [B-2 (W1)]; d. 1676, VA. married Robert Bolling. 3. JOHN2 POYTHRESS (FRANCIS1) was born Bef. 1628 in [(P-1) B], and died Aft. 1694 in VA Charles City ?. He married CHRISTIAN PEEBLES, daughter of DAVID PEEBLES and ELIZABETH UNKNOWN. She was born Bet. 1628 - 1667 in Estimated dates in VA, and died Aft. 1694 in Estimated dates in VA. Children of JOHN POYTHRESS and CHRISTIAN PEEBLES are: 6. i. JOSHUA3 POYTHRESS, b. Bef. 1689, VA of "Flower de Hundred" [(P-1) BA]; d. 1739. 7. ii. ELIZABETH POYTHRESS, b. Bef. 1690, VA (P-1) [(P-1) BB]. iii. CHRISTIAN POYTHRESS, b. VA (P-1) [BC]. 8. iv. DAVID POYTHRESS, b. VA [ [(P-1) BD]; d. Abt. 1739. 9. v. WILLIAM POYTHRESS, b. 1694, VA [(P-1) BE]; d. January 18, 1763, Blandford, Dinwiddie County, VA. 10. vi. JOHN POYTHRESS, b. Abt. 1664, VA [(P-1) BF]; d. Aft. 1726. 11. vii. PETER POYTHRESS, b. Abt. 1690, VA [(P-1) BG] "Flowerdew Hundred". 12. viii. ROBERT POYTHRESS, b. 1690, [(P-1) BH]; d. Abt. 1745. 4. MAJ. FRANCIS2 POYTHRESS (FRANCIS1) was born Abt. 1630 in [(P-1) D], and died Abt. 1688 in VA. He married REBECCA COGGIN, daughter of JOHN COGGIN and UNKNOWN BLAND. {RB Batte had some reason to think at one point this Rebecca had the surname Tye. However, the changes were not made to all her cards.} She was ((P-1) D (W)], and died in VA. Children of FRANCIS POYTHRESS and REBECCA COGGIN are: 13. i. FRANCIS3 POYTHRESS, b. Bef. 1681, VA [(P-1) DA]. 14. ii. ANNE POYTHRESS, b. Bef. 1682, VA [(P-1) DB]; d. Living 1733. 15. iii. JOHN POYTHRESS, b. Bef. 1688, VA [(P-1) DC]; d. Abt. 1724. 16. iv. REBECCA POYTHRESS, b. Bef. 1683, VA [(P-1) DD]. v. THOMAS POYTHRESS, b. Abt. 1683, VA [(P-1) DE].

I appreciate Maynard's below comment about that name that popped up in the unrecorded 1772 will of Mary Poythress in Dinwddie Co, VA that I posted the other day, from an old published transcription done apparently in the early 1970s. What he says makes sense: Sitting here in Houston having read "Fitzgerald" in a gazillion Poythress PG documents over past couple of days, I'm going to bet that if that "Fitzgarrett" wasn't completely clear it might have been intended to be Fitzgerald. One of those handwriting conventions of the day had the tail end of a "d" looping back over the line which often appears to be a "tt". All the same, great job..

Ah so.....so other than the "start" this clerk did what was entirely logical....and I think I'll use the dates just as he recorded them. Actually, in the matter of Minutes the dates appear to be almost irrelevant with respect to "years" and few if any years (or even days or months) are even stated on individual documents. One has to pick up the month by the "annoucement" of the "start" of a particular court session (typically the second Tuesday in each month) and dates are rarely shown in the minutes in any context other than this "opening" announcement each month. So, if the clerk is off even by a year as long we have verified him as "sequential" I doubt if we can stray too far. Thanks, Maynard

Thanks Lou & Diana for chiming in with the appropriate info on dates re Maynard's questioning. Maynard, I will add the following to their good answers, since you asked for my input. The change to calling "January 1" the first day of the new (numberical) year began at different times in different countries. In the particular case of the records on the roll of microfilm you are using, you said: > PG Minute Book 1737-1740... > The documents BEGIN in Jan, 1738 (ignoring 1737). That can be accepted > perhaps as simply an error in the "title" of the book. The clerk procedes > with dates and page numbers referring to them from the start as 1738 and > going month by month. > Then, when it comes time for January, 1739 the clerk dutifully starts dating > everything as of January 1738 all over again. It appears to me that the clerk probably actually began recording things in that book later in the year of 1738 than March 25th -- perhaps copying the entries into the just-arrived new book from loose sheets used while awaiting delivery of the new book. That explanation would fit for why the title of the roll says the records start in "1737" -- under the old system of dating, which was then-customary, those entries at the beginning of the book which are dated between Jan 1 & Mar 24th, would have been more properly THEN-called "1737" and you would more properly NOW call them, for example: January 1, 1737/38. When you get to March 25, 1738 you no longer need to give a double date for then thru December 31, 1738. Then when the clerk, in accordance with the then-customary way of doing dates, again lists the next day as "January 1, 1738," you NOW, for clarity, need to put "January 1, 1738/39" and continue putting the double year until you reach March 25th, which the clerk probably calls 1739, though your message didn't go that far into the record to tell us. As Diana's message said, the double-dating of the part of the year from Jan 1 thru March 24th should only be used before 1752. In the case of this1737-1740 Minute Book for Prince George's County, VA, you'll have double dates for each Jan 1 thru Mar 24th. Hope this clarifies any remaining questions. Cheers, Barbara

See http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~neff/dates.htm A segment follows. Why Do USA Documents from the mid 1700s have Two Different Dates? In 1752 the American Colonies switched from the Julian Calendar to the Gregorian Calendar which required an 11-day elimination in the date. Therefore, Wednesday, September 2, 1752 was immediately followed by Thursday, September 14, 1752. Many people used both the Julian date and the new Gregorian date on documents to avoid confusion until everyone was adjusted to the change. While their consideration makes it easier for the genealogist to adjust dates on documents, it raises a question about calculated birth dates from newspaper death notices and tombstones. Diana

The whys always seem to befuddle me. I am looking for the explanation that once explained it to me well, but this is the Date: January 1 to March 25 before 1752 Diana

Anybody want to field this one? I am transcribing PG Minute Book 1737-1740. It is a well done document from an otherwise competent seeming clerk. All of the pages\ are numbered sequentially for the entire book. The Poythress crowd seemed to live in the court house as they have two or three entries per month. The documents BEGIN in Jan, 1738 (ignoring 1737). That can be accepted perhaps as simply an error in the "title" of the book. The clerk procedes with dates and page numbers referring to them from the start as 1738 and going month by month. Then, when it comes time for January, 1739 the clerk dutifully starts dating everything as of January 1738 all over again. Barbara Neal, you have seemed well informed on the calendar adjustments needed from time to time. We didn't have to repeat a year did we? And if not, would you (or anyone) suggest a rationale for the clerks dating? Failing to figure this one out, I'd plan to just date all the 1739 ones as "1739 (sic, '38?) if left to my own devices. However if there is a protocol would someone share it with me. Thanks, Maynard

Maynard, at that time they were still going by the "old" calendar, when the new year didn't start until late March (somebody can give us a better exact date). Thus, under this old system, January, February, and most of March were still in the old, previous year. Thus January 1739 by our new calendar would have been January 1738 under the old system. The "correct" way to record these dates (in my opinion) is to put both years down. January 1738/39 would mean January 1738 (old system)/39 (new system). This tells anyone who reads this that, in fact, the old/new system of dates was considered when it was written. Lou -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 5:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Lost year? Anybody want to field this one? I am transcribing PG Minute Book 1737-1740. It is a well done document from an otherwise competent seeming clerk. All of the pages\ are numbered sequentially for the entire book. The Poythress crowd seemed to live in the court house as they have two or three entries per month. The documents BEGIN in Jan, 1738 (ignoring 1737). That can be accepted perhaps as simply an error in the "title" of the book. The clerk procedes with dates and page numbers referring to them from the start as 1738 and going month by month. Then, when it comes time for January, 1739 the clerk dutifully starts dating everything as of January 1738 all over again. Barbara Neal, you have seemed well informed on the calendar adjustments needed from time to time. We didn't have to repeat a year did we? And if not, would you (or anyone) suggest a rationale for the clerks dating? Failing to figure this one out, I'd plan to just date all the 1739 ones as "1739 (sic, '38?) if left to my own devices. However if there is a protocol would someone share it with me. Thanks, Maynard ==== POYTHRESS Mailing List ==== The Poythress Web Page is at http://www1.minn.net/~atims/

Maynard, Glad to hear you've been putting in valuable research time in Houston at the Clayton Library. Sounds like you've done great work down there. We'll all be looking forward to learning more. Hope you have the time available to get thru the remaining Court Orders before flying home. Cheers, BPN

Mission Control from Houston back on the air. There is so much technology in this cotton pickin' house it freaks me out. Had even managed to lose AOL and it still comes and goes so if I drop off the radar don't be surprised.. Anyway, spent Fri. (Jean had entertainer) and Sat. (daughter's geekmeister home) "out" so I got to hit it hard in the Clayton 9-4:30 both days. I deem the trips to have been imminently productive. Probably with some hubris, I'll say I think I have Clayton's Prince George stuff pumped out. However, that was only 5 rolls of microfilm.....doesn't sound like much but they were wall to wall Ps. And all the surrounding non-burned counties have (in the Clayton at least) maybe couple of dozen reels each. I pray they are indexed. 1) verified for sho that there are only 4 items for us in PG deeds & wills 1759-60 for us. I think you all already have this. 2) re-tracked my way through PG Wills, Deeds, and Settlements 1713-28 (inclusive of a separate reel 1719-22). Not too many corrections and additions but enough to be worth the effort. 3) Wills & Deeds 1737-40. You also have this one but only in small part. I captured a ton of additions because I was now working off the actual microfilm instead of the copies I had the kid make for me. This is a great one. 4) Minute Book 1737-40. I don't think I have put this one up yet. It is voluminous and has real meat. This was first time I have worked with a minute book. They are tough to abstract because they don't follow any particular pattern but the entries are relatively short so its easier to just transcribe all except the really long ones. First thought: this stuff is so harum-scarum it can't be helpful. Second thought: the further I got.....wow, this is neat stuff even if it is sort of like shelling and picking walnuts if you're the one doing the transcribing. 5) Court Orders 1714-20. This was first run at this one. I had deliberately put it off. This one has about 400 pages with average of 4-5 entries per page and the sucker is NOT indexed, as in "you gotta scan the whole thing"! Now THAT really is picking walnuts. Started at noon Sat. and got to page 124 by 4:30 so that says I gotta find another 2 days somehow before we return to Louisville. Orders too are a mumbo-jumbo deal. The good news is that most of them begin "in the action of Billy Bob Smith against Bubba Jones" and that lets you move along fairly well because you can do the rest of that particular entry fairly quickly. Also, of great scanning help (and probabably has been all along but I just didn't realize it) is that the little double "s" symbol has "a presence" both "above" and "below" the line and is therefore easy to spot as the eye runs down the line of "copy." Anyway, all of the above is now "on paper" and all I have to do is decipher my own handwriting and put it on a floppy that I can manipulate when I get back to Louisville and post it for you all. All is well. Loving the 65-70 degree days but a ton of rain. See ya. Maynard

Thanks, Barbara. Very Interesting. This is how R. Bolling Batte presents these members of the Poythress clan as I have gleaned them from Batte's index cards. I have pulled from my draft data base the following sets of Poythresses. Seems they are connected somewhat distantly through the same Randolph family, but this Francis seems to have confounded Batte. Sure puzzles me. Diana Ancestors of Mary Peterson Poythress Generation No. 1 1. Mary Peterson Poythress, born 1763; died 1841. She was the daughter of 2. Francis Poythress and 3. Mary Peterson. She married (1) Henry Isham Randolph. He was the son of Grief Randolph and Elizabeth Epes. Generation No. 2 2. Francis Poythress, born in VA [?} [no parents given]. He married 3. Mary Peterson. 3. Mary Peterson, born in VA [P-2) BD. She was the daughter of 6. John Peterson and 7. Martha Thweatt. Children of Francis Poythress and Mary Peterson are: i. Francis Poythress, born in unmarried; died 1796. 1 ii. Mary Peterson Poythress, born 1763; died 1841; married Henry Isham Randolph. Generation No. 3 6. John Peterson, born Abt. 1695 in [(P-2) B]; died October 1773. He was the son of 12. John Peterson. He married 7. Martha Thweatt. 7. Martha Thweatt Children of John Peterson and Martha Thweatt are: i. Nathaniel Peterson ii. Martha Peterson iii. Peter Peterson 3 iv. Mary Peterson, born in VA [P-2) BD; married Francis Poythress. v. Francis Peterson vi. John Peterson vii. Peter Peterson Generation No. 4 12. John Peterson Child of John Peterson is: 6 i. John Peterson, born Abt. 1695 in [(P-2) B]; died October 1773; married (1) Frances Unknown; married (2) Martha Thweatt. ---------------------------------- The only Tabithas (see CAP's) Ancestors of Tabitha Poythress Generation No. 1 1. TABITHA Poythress1, born 1725 in VA [(P-1) BHE]; died 1805. She was the daughter of 2. Robert Poythress and 3. Elizabeth Unknown. She married (1) Henry Randolph2 1742. He was born February 11, 1720/21 in [(R-2) CAC]. He was the son of Henry Randolph and Elizabeth Epes. Generation No. 2 2. Robert Poythress, born 1690 in [(P-1) BH]; died Abt. 1745. He was the son of 4. John Poythress and 5. Christian Peebles. He married 3. Elizabeth Unknown. 3. Elizabeth Unknown3, born in [(P-1) BH (W)]. Children of Robert Poythress and Elizabeth Unknown are: i. Peter Poythress, born 1715 in VA of "Branchester" [(P-1) BHA]; died 1785; married Elizabeth Bland 1756; born March 17, 1732/33 in dau of 271 [ (P-1) BGA B]; died Aft. 1791. ii. Robert Poythress, born Aft. 1715; died January 1782 as Possible Date iii. William Poythress iv. Jane Poythress, born in VA [(P-1) BHD]; married John Baird; born in Scotland [(B-3) A]. 1 v. TABITHA Poythress, born 1725 in VA [(P-1) BHE]; died 1805; married Henry Randolph 1742. vi. Elizabeth Poythress VA [(P-1) BHF], married John Gilliam. Generation No. 3 4. John Poythress4, born Bef. 1628 in [(P-1) B]; died Aft. 1687 in VA Charles City ?. He was the son of 8. Captain Francis Poythress and 9. Mary Unknown. He married 5. Christian Peebles. 5. Christian Peebles5, died in VA. She was the daughter of 10. David Peebles and 11. Elizabeth Unknown.

In the January 1972, Vol. X, Issue No.1, "Virginia Genealogical Society Quarterly" (long out of print) is an article (pp. 3-13) entitled "Unrecorded Wills of Dinwiddie County" which was "contributed by Mrs. E.B. Short, Dinwiddie, Virginia 23841." The article has no introductory notes, and no notes following the transcribed wills. Presumably these unrecorded wills were found by Mrs. Short at the Dinwiddie County, VA Courthouse. The following transcription is on the bottom of p.4 of the above-mentioned article (with spelling, capitalization, sentence structure & punctuation as shown in the article): MARY POYTHRESS I Mary Poythress of the County of Dinwiddie being very sick and weak but in perfect mind and memory thanks be to God; and calling to mind that all must die and return to dust from whence they came, so make and ordain this my last will and Testament - I do give, devise and bequeath to my Loving Daughter Tabitha Poythress and her heirs forever, whatever falls or belongs to me by Law, of my Dec'd husband Edward Poythress' estate. I do choose and appoint William FitzGarrett and my [___]ter Tabitha Poythress Executors of this my last will and Testament. Witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and offered my seal this 21st day of July 1772. Mary [her mark] Poythress Signed, sealed published and Declared in presence of John Cryer Thos. Anderson Thomas Rogers Elizabeth Poythress

In the January 1972, Vol. X, Issue No.1, "Virginia Genealogical Society Quarterly" (long out of print) is an article (pp. 3-13) entitled "Unrecorded Wills of Dinwiddie County" which was "contributed by Mrs. E.B. Short, Dinwiddie, Virginia 23841." The article has no introductory notes, and no notes following the transcribed wills. Presumably these unrecorded wills were found by Mrs. Short at the Dinwiddie County, VA Courthouse. The following transcription is on the bottom of p.5 of the above-mentioned article (with spelling, capitalization, sentence structure & punctuation as shown in the article): PATRICK POYTHRESS I Patrick Poythress being of sound mind and lawful age, do ordain the following to be my Last Will and Testament. In the first place, I give unto my loving wife Elizabeth, during her widowhood all the Estate I now have, or may hereafter have, but in case of her marriage I then give it equally to be divided between my children. I appoint Mr. [illegible] to be my Executor. P. H. Poythress Witnesses: Archibald Epps Arthur Johnston M. L. Drinkard [Note on back of this will states it was written 12 August 1818]

In the January 1972, Vol. X, Issue No.1, "Virginia Genealogical Society Quarterly" (long out of print) is an article (pp. 3-13) entitled "Unrecorded Wills of Dinwiddie County" which was "contributed by Mrs. E.B. Short, Dinwiddie, Virginia 23841." The article has no introductory notes, and no notes following the transcribed wills. Presumably these unrecorded wills were found by Mrs. Short at the Dinwiddie County, VA Courthouse. The following transcription is on the top of p.5 of the above-mentioned article (with spelling, capitalization, sentence structure & punctuation as shown in the article): FRANCIS POYTHRESS In the name of God Amen. I Francis Poythress being in health of [illegible] and of a sound disposing mind but calling to mind the mortality of my body do make and ordain this my last will and Testament in manner and form following in primis I give devise and bequeath unto my loving wife all my estate of every kind that I do possess Reserving unto my Daughter Mary Peterson Randolph which I give five shillings which said sum I give unto my daughter to her and her heirs forever. Item. Whereas there was a marriage contract between my wife and myself and whereas the true intent and meaning of the said writing was that my said wife was to enjoy and have the full and free disposal of all the Estate of every kind that came by her without the [ ? ] or hindrance of me and my Heirs. Now if there should be any deficiences in the said writing so as to [illegible] my Heirs to any of the property [illegible] my wife my will and desire is and I do hereby revoke all such claim and desire that my wife and her Heirs should enjoy all the Estate that came by her without the hindrance or molestation of my Heirs. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal this 10th Day of December Anno Dommini 1796. Francis Poythress Signed sealed Published and declared in presence of Reuben Wilkinson Robert Reese

Diana - Re your "... data base of Poythress descendents and related families contains now 700 people, supported by Batte cards. I mention this for those who may still be waiting for my compilation. Somehow when I got rolling, I couldn't stop. My hope is to have it fairly complete by the end of March. Once on a CD, this compilation can be read by FTM without use of much hard drive space. I may start posting some family groupings for comment in a week or two." This sounds great. Looking forward to seeing more whenever available. Sounds like we can all learn a lot from all this work you've been applying. We'll all applaud your work! Barbara (BPN)