....publishes a weekly newsletter of informative articles (free) and a secondary listing of all of their new holdings as a "teaser." One of this weeks teasers is "Savannah Georgia Directories 1888-91". The address is: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4487.htm   It shows 3 Poythress entrees and then wants 70 bucks/year to let you look at the site. If anyone is a paid subscriber to this service would you please see if you can pick them up for us. With these late dates it is unlikely that the individuals would be significant to any of our lines but it's nice to be sure. If we don't have a paid member, I'll likely join myself and do the weekly searches. Thanks, Maynard

Interesting: ******************** If you are having trouble with any of the links in this message, or if the URL's are not appearing as links, please follow the instructions at the bottom of this email. Title: Genealogy Gone Haywire As Searchers Take to Web Copy and paste the following into your Web browser to access the sent link: http://wsj.emailthis.com/et/emailThis?clickMap=viewThis&etMailToID=1878866035&pt=Y Copy and paste the following into your Web browser to SAVE THIS link: http://wsj.savethis.com/st/saveThisPopupApp?clickMap=saveFromET&partnerID=150&etMailToID=1878866035&pt=Y Copy and paste the following into your Web browser to forward this link: http://wsj.emailthis.com/et/emailThis?clickMap=forward&etMailToID=1878866035&partnerID=150&pt=Y *Please note, the sender's email address has not been verified. ******************** Email pages from any Web site you visit - add the EMAIL THIS button to your browser, copy and paste the following into your Web browser: http://wsj.emailthis.com/et/emailThis?clickMap=browserButtons&pt=Y" Instructions: ----------------------------------------- If your e-mail program doesn't recognize Web addresses: 1. With your mouse, highlight the Web Address above. Be sure to highlight the entire Web address, even if it spans more than one line in your email. 2. Select Copy from the Edit menu at the top of your screen. 3. Launch your Web browser. 4. Paste the address into your Web browser by selecting Paste from the Edit menu. 5. Click Go or press Enter or Return on your keyboard. ********************

Thanks, Barbara, for that warning. It makes me think that it might be appropriate, though off message, to make a couple of points about viruses after my recent experience. >Changes in virus protection are taking place, and some of us aren't aware of them. >People don't intentionally send viruses. Sure, it's fine to be wary of emails from strangers. But you need to be wary of emails from friends, too. Viruses replicate themselves secretly. We were sending out emails but no trace was left on our machines. It took a query from a friend, you Barbara, to let us know we had a problem. It was infinitely better to get a handle on things sooner (2 days) rather than later. On virus protection. We thought because we had some software in place, we were protected. We were not. We found we needed to keep actively updating the virus protection. I had turned off that nagging little update reminder. I shouldn't have. We also found out that in one case, a computer 2-3 years old didn't have the speed or memory to handle some of the newest virus-protection software. Likewise we found that the computer support personnel were weak in knowledge about an old computer. Folks, these days, 2 years makes a computer old. In our case, a switch from McAfee to Norton made all the difference. It may be different for you. I think both software companies are good. In some cases, it may be worth the expense to buy an updated disk of your virus software of choice, but much is available on line. Just don't be complacent. If you have any doubt, check on your computer to find out when your software was last updated. If it was more than two weeks ago, rush to update. Don't quarrel with a $4 fee now charged if your subscription is out of date. And if one brand doesn't work, try another. And if you need a lot of updates, be sure you do a complete scan of all your computer files after you are updated your virus software. And alert your friends if you get something from them that doesn't seem right. And again, I apologize to any of you who may have suffered any inconvenience as a result of our problem. Diana

Perhaps all of you saw the below article. If not, you should be aware of its impact on us. Most members of our Poythress-List are already aware that the messages they send to the List have long been archived, which is helpful for referring to later. Upon reading the below item, it becomes apparent that things we say in List messages will have an even wider accessibility, and that those messages will be reached by more people using major Internet search engines. Further incentive to "keep our messages pertinent" and to *not* divulge personally-private information in our messages, eh? Barbara = = = = = Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter issue of 6/19/01 The following article is from Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter and is copyright 2001 by Richard W. Eastman. It is re-published here with the permission of the author. > - New Message Boards at Ancestry.Com and Rootsweb.Com Ancestry.com and RootsWeb.com will soon launch a new integrated message board system that spans both of the popular online genealogy sites. The new system no longer requires users to post messages on multiple sites at once. In addition, the new message boards will be "indexable" by the major Internet search engines; as a result, queries, discussions, and helpful suggestions from the genealogical community will reach the widest possible audience. In addition to new messages posted, the collection will also contain more than fifteen million messages from researchers who have shared their experience and expertise over the last two decades. Other enhancements include: * Cleaner, intuitive user interface * Improved search functionality with hits ranked by relevance * New personalization features like a "MyFavorites list" and auto-notification * New infrastructure allowing for faster access, and larger traffic loads * Users will be able to view the e-mail address of message authors and respond to them easily and privately. However, the message boards cannot be "crawled" by unscrupulous third parties to gather e-mail addresses for spam mailings. * The new message boards will be able to handle attachments to e-mail messages in the form of uploaded pictures (scanned documents, family photos, etc.) and GEDCOM files. * A "preview message" feature will help users see what a message will look like once posted (and make any appropriate changes before posting). The new message boards also feature centralized and simplified administration capability for the benefit of the thousands of volunteers who monitor and administer individual boards. Administrative improvements include: * Each message board has a special "administrator" page, where administrators can supply information about themselves and/or the topic. They may even add helpful text and links to appropriate resources elsewhere on the Internet. * URLs in messages are automatically recognized and hyperlinked so that users can visit referred sites on the Internet with one simple click. * Administrators can take advantage of a convenient "recycle bin" feature, which allows them to delete inappropriate messages (spam, inappropriate content, etc.) or even restore such messages if deletion was inadvertent. Users may choose to access these new message boards on either RootsWeb.com or Ancestry.com, and message board access will remain free on both sites. ============================================================== <

I got this from another list. It sounds like something worth looking into. There will be a charge to use this service, however. Diana WASHINGTON - June 11, 2001 - More than 20,000 community newspapers, some long out of print, have recorded American life since the 17th century and two unique organizations have set the common goal of providing Internet access to this documentation of American heritage. The National Newspaper Association (NNA) and Cold North Wind Corporation signed a letter of intent today to create America's Chronicles SM, an online search engine that accesses the digital archives of America's community newspapers, beginning with the archives of the 3600 NNA member newspapers. The project could eventually result in 500,000,000 pages of original, historical content dating back to the 1600s and will be available online at http://www.americaschronicles.com . The site will be launched at the NNA's 116th Annual Convention and Trade Show in Milwaukee, September 12-15, with access to the first of many digital archives.

If your virus software is up to date, you probably don't have to worry. If you have received a strange email from a Diamond in the last week with two attachments and you opened them, be sure to do a virus scan. However, a nasty little beast on my old computer sent them out on my husband email without our knowledge to contact list entries that had been deleted from the file. Who would have thought? Nothing is ever really deleted. You can read more about this virus at http://www.sarc.com/avcenter/venc/data/[email protected] Diana

Thanks, Patti Who told me, "Think you must have meant 1861 instead of 1961." Of course the first day of the Civil War was in 1861, but I have to confess, there are days when I wonder about that. Some people seem to still fighting the fight or at least talking the talk:) I also know how to spell better than my email would have indicated. Your patience is appreciated. Diana

Ah Ha.....Pat.....thanks for the correction. Why in the world would they ever make a 1641 map if it didn't relate to the English Civil War. I must have killed the brain cell that should have been holding that one. Thanks again, Maynard Pat> As I had never heard of Gloucestershire being part of Wales, I had a look at the link given.  The red lines on the map enclose all that land held by the King in 1644 and the green show the land held by Parliament.  It means that Wales was held by the King, not that Gloucestershire, Somerset, Devon and Cornwall etc were all part of Wales. Best wishes to all Pat Crewe

Maynard, thanks for sharing these citations. Where did you find them? Best regards, Lyn P. Baird [email protected] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Diana, thanks for sharing these interesting reads. Not likely to be a missing puzzle part for me, but quite entertaining. Best regards, Lyn P. Baird [email protected] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

At > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/map.asp?ImageID=320 < this week's Genealogy.com issue has a map of Wales and England in 1641. While we (I anyway) tend to think of Gloucestershire and that area as England bordering Wales, in 1641 it actually was Wales. That would imply Welsh origins for the name. However, I am still taking heat from my French friend who swears it is anglicized Norman. He uses Craig's line about Poi being red and thress being next door to tress in the sense of a conspicuous or decorative beard. Then when I told him of the signs on farms around Newent reading Poydresse he became obnoxiously positive. You pays your money and you takes your chances. But the map is interesting anyway. Maynard

I am sure some of you think I am going pretty far a field to list Mary Blair Rice, AKA Blair Niles, on the Poythress List, but please note at http://lvaimage.lib.va.us/cgi-bin/drawerIII/disk8/CC/BA/031/R0414?70 that R. Bolling Batte gives her a P-1 designation.BGA CAF AAA. Diana

As you may have guessed, I have been researching this part of the Poythress family. Earlier I gave you a brief synopsis on Roger Atkinson Pryor, Agnes's grandson. For any one who has interest in the distant cousins, here is a web site I found today on Roger's granddaughter: She was the daughter of Roger's daughter, Marie Gordon, "Gordoness", and was an author, who wrote under the name Blair Niles. Her full maiden name was Mary Blair Rice. She died in 1959. R. Bolling Batte doesn't list the first marriage, but I am aware of it from family members. I believe there was some kind of scandal with other women that ended her first marriage, but do read about Mary Blair Beebe Niles' first marriage at dawn at her mother's plantation. (the second URL) http://members.aol.com/chines6930/mw1/mary.htm http://members.aol.com/chines6930/mw1/mary.htm#june Books By Blair Niles (from Barnes & Nobles Used Book list) (Mexico) PASSENGERS TO MEXICO: THE LAST INVASION OF THE AMERICAS. DAY OF IMMENSE SUN STRANGE BROTHER (The Story of Tormented Males who are Different) Journeys In Time : From The Halls Of Montezuma To Patagonia's Plains. A Treasury Garnered From Four Centuries of Writers Black Haiti, a Biography of Africa's Eldest Daughter Illustrated from Photographs By Robert Niles, Jr. Free, a novel The James (from "The Rivers of America" series) Niles, Blair. illustrated by Edward Shenton

Thanks for that information about Agnes Poythress, Maynard. Agnes Poythress was the grandmother of one of the many characters among the descendants of Francis and Mary Poythress: Roger Atkinson Pryor (1828-1919). Roger had a lot of Poythress genes. Agnes's daughter Lucy Atkinson was the first of three wives of Theoderick Bland Pryor, her second cousin. Theoderick Bland Pryor, a colorful Presbyterian minister in Petersburg, was also a Poythress descendent. Pryor's second wife was also a Poythress descendent, as was his third. Pryor gave up the Anglican church and a law career to join the ministry. Roger Atkinson Pryor who had a chance to fire the first shot in the civil war, but he turned it down. Pryor happened to be at Fort Sumter on that fateful day in April 1961 as an aide to General Beauregard. Pryor had beam also a fire-eater editor of a Virginia newspaper. He was also a junior Congressman, who thought war was inevitable. But presumably because Virginia had not seceded yet, Pryor let someone else take the first shot. But being somewhat impetuous, while assisting in the negotiations to end the fighting at Fort Sumter a few days later, Pryor grabbed a bottle of potassium iodine on the conference table he mistook for water and swigged it down. He had to have his stomach pumped. Roger Pryor was later a member of the Confederate Congress. He was later promoted to Colonel then General in the Confederate Army but resigned when he didn't get the assignment he wanted. He then enlisted in the Calvary. He was arrested by the North for spying and was spared from hanging when President Lincoln intervened. After the war, Pryor became a lawyer in New York state and later became a justice of that state's Supreme Court. Around that time, he wrote a treatise on the problems with the electoral college system in electing a President. Diana

Maitland Bible (Source in part) Caution before use: the Maitland Bible has a number of errors with respect to Poythress marriages. Entries appear to have NOT been recorded contemporaneously. A later myth refers to "the eight Misses Poythress and the nine Misses Poythress" citing the Maitland bible in part as the source. The "eight Misses Poythress" story (presumably daughters of Robert Poythress 1690- ca.1745) has numerous errors, not among the least of which is that there were NOT eight daughters of Robert Poythress in the first place. The "nine Misses Poythress" (daughters of Peter Poythress 1715-1785) did indeed exist and the Maitland bible assigns the grooms to most of Peter's daughters but a couple of grooms to Robert's daughters. The material below is the notes of an unknown genealogist using the Maitland bible IN PART as a source document. It will be recognized that this was not a particularly thorough genealogist. In those instances where an exact date is shown however, it is likely correct and derived from a source other than the Maitland bible which shows no dates. From the Virginia Historical Society Archives: Mss6 4M 2875:1 Atkinson, Agnes Poythress b. d. m. Roger Atkinson Mss6 4M 2875:1 [same as Elizabeth P. Mayo] Mayo, Betsy Poythress [b. 23 Mar 1818…Mss6 4B575: 1 ???] b. d. m. William Mayo Mss6 4P 8785:1 Gilbert, Catherine Jane (Poythress) b. 10 Aug 1838 d. 1889 (?) m. William Gilbert 24 Apr 1856 Mss6 4M 2875:1 Maitland, Elizabeth Poythress b. d. m. David Maitland, Jun. (1759-1838) Mss6 4M 2875:1 Poythress, Elizabeth Bland b. d. m. Peter Poythress Mss6 4P 8785:1 Poythress, Eliza J. (Crowder) b. d. m. 17 Oct 1852 Joshua Lewis Poythress Mss6 4M 2875:1 Mayo, Jennie Poythress b. d. m. Joseph Mayo Mss6 4P 8785:1 Poythress, Joshua Lewis b. 10 Nov 1828 d. 12 Jun 1854 m. 17 Oct 1852 (Elizabeth J. Crowder) Mss6 4M 2875:1 Batte, Mary Poythress b. d. m. John Batte Mss6 4M 2875:1 Randolph, Nancy Poythress b. d. m. John Randolph Mss6 4M 2875:1 Poythress, Rebecca Williams b. d. m. William Poythress Mss6 4M 2875:1 Newton, Sally Bland Poythress Lee b. d. m. 1) Colonel Richard Lee 2) Willoughby Newton Mss6 4M 2875:1 Bland, Susanna Poythress b. d. m. Capt. Richard Bland Mss6 4M 2875:1 Poythress, William b. d. m. (Elizbeth Bland) ? (Rebecca Williams) ?

Poythress, Lucy Marriages: Mr. John Gordon, of Prince George, to Miss Lucy Poythress, of the same county; a very agreeable lady with a handsome fortune. Source: Virginia Gazette 21 Apr 1775, record in Virginia Historical Society

Poythress, Agnes Marriages "On Saturday last [20 Sep 1788] Roger Atkinson, Jun. Esq. to Miss Agnes Poythress of Prince George, sixth daughter of the late Peter Poythress." Source: Virginia Independent Chronicle 24 Sep 1788 Virginia Historical Records

Poythress, Charlotte Reed Deaths Miss Charlotte Reed Poythress, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. William P. Poythress, of 8 West Franklin Street….(fell) from a second story window…she died shortly thereafter. Funeral to be held at Monumental Church. Richmond Times-Dispatch 5 Sep 1906 Richmond Times Dispatch 6 Sep 1906 ("Deaths") (Note: this child was preceded by a sister of the identical name who was born and died in 1880; the Charlotte Reed Poythress of the death notice above was b. 1881 d. 1906). Source: Virginia Historical Society: News, Bibles

Nice write up, wish we had the author. My sister-in-law visits the area quite frequently. I wonder where the cemetary is and if it is accessible? BGP

Diana, thanks for these sites and also the early American sites. Best regards, Lyn P. Baird [email protected] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.