I will keep my eye out. If this picture can be scanned and emailed to me, it might help me spot a photo of her, if one is in the old photos my Grandfather had. Elaine

I read in my newsletter from the Friends of the North Carolina Archives that they are seeking World War II veterans in North Carolina, to interview them pertaining to their service and experiences while in the military. They strongly encourage veterans, their families, and others interested in this to contact them. As the article said, all who served in the armed forces deserve our appreciation - whether they served in war or peace. They have completed over 300 interviews with veterans from Desert Storm, Vietnam, the Korean War, WW II, and World War I, but seek more. They noted that especially now when so many World War II veterans are passing from our midst, it is vitally important to record and document this history while we can. They rely heavily on volunteers throughout the state of NC to assist in recording interviews on audiocassette or video tapes. For more info, contact Sion Harrington (USAR Retired), of the North Carolina Archives Military Collection Unit, Special Collections Branch. He can be reached by phone at 919-733-3952 or by email at [email protected] They also are seeking any available original papers that anyone wishes to donate to them regarding how wars and conflicts have touched the lives of North Carolinians -- including personal papers, letters, diaries, photos, reminiscences, memoirs, and military documents such as sets of orders, discharges, & citations. Their Military Collection Unit will accept clear photocopies of discharges if the originals cannot be donated; this is an exception to the normal State Archives rule, due to the major fire in 1973 at the National Personnel Records Center in St. Louis, MO that destroyed over 80% of our nation's military records. For more info, or to donate documentary materials relating to this, contact Sion Harrington (USAR Retired) at NC Archives & Records Section Attn: Military Collection 4614 Mail Service Center Raleigh, NC 27699-4614 phone: 919-733-3952 email: [email protected]

Hello, Elaine. In a 4/16 message you mention: "I will rephotocopy the pages in July when I go to Laurel, MS for a family reunion. I also plan on going through some old papers and things that were my grandfather Carl's and see if I find anything of interest." I have a request for when you go to Mississippi. Barbara Neal and I (and perhaps others) would be grateful if you could be on the lookout for any information regarding COUSIN ANNA STANLEY. For years we have been pursuing a theory that this woman might prove or support a connection between James E. Poythress and Lewis Poythress. Here is the story in brief. As you now know we all suspect, but have no proof, that James E. Poythress (1803-1863), of Mecklenburg Co., VA, and Sumter Co., AL, was the son of Lewis Poythress (ca. 1770 - ca. 1848) of Mecklenburg Co., VA. There is an Anna Stanley associated with James E. Poythress and an Anna Stanley (indirectly) associated with Lewis Poythress. Are these two Anna Stanleys actually one and the same person? We are interested in any information you may find to shed light on Anna or Annas. ========== Here are specifics on the connection between Anna and Lewis: 1) Rebecca L. Poythress (ca 1808 - aft 1860), daughter of Lewis Poythress, married a Benjamin Stanley (ca 1800 - aft 1860) on 22 Jan 1832 in Mecklenburg, VA 2) Children in household of Benjamin and Rebecca (per 1840, 1850 and 1860 census records): George M. or W. (ca 1836), Sarah F. (ca 1837), Benjamin L. (ca 1839), John D. (ca 1840), Martha B. J. or R. (ca 1846) and James W. (ca 1850) BUT NO ANNA 3) The 1870 Brunswick, VA, household of (now widowed) Benjamin Stanley shows three persons as follows: Benjamin; age 72; male; white; farmer; $800 personal property; $500 real estate; born VA George M.; age 35; male; white; laborer; born VA (known to be son of Benjamin and Rebecca) ANNA; age 23; female; white; housekeeper; born VA (relation unknown) 4) The 1876 will of Benjamin Stanley (Brunswick Will Book 20, pp. 418-19) cites daughters Martha and Sarah, and references heirs of John D. Stanley, a deceased son of Benjamin, BUT NO ANNA.) 5) The 1880 Brunswick, VA, household of George M. Stanley shows two persons as follows: Stanley, Geo M., white, male, age 47, head of house, single, farmer Valentine, George, black, male, age 11, servant, single, domestic servant This is the only entry of a Stanley in 1880 in Meherrin District (ED 30 and 195) or the bordering South Hill District (ED 149) of Mecklenburg Co. Taken together, these three districts comprise the usual Virginia haunts of the Lewis Poythress line. This indicates a) Anna was NOT the wife of George M. and b) by 1880 Anna was no longer in the area, or no longer surnamed Stanley. In summary then, on the Lewis Poythress side of the story, we have in 1870 an Anna Stanley, born ca. 1847, living in the household of the son-in-law of Lewis Poythress, but not evidenced before or after that time. ========== Here are specifics on the connection between Anna and James E.: 1) On 11 Jul 1998 Barbara posted to the list: 'I photographed a tintype [labeled on the album page as] "Cousin Anna Stanley" which was in an old album that belonged to Catharine Speed Preston (Mrs. James Edward Poythress), which album has been held by an elderly cousin of mine for many years, and which he obtained from his grandfather, one of the sons of James Edward Poythress. The original paper backing of the tintype was replaced about 100 years ago by lined paper, glued to the original front-paper. On that lined paper backing, in old script, is written "Anna Stanley" and the name of the photographer, which appears to be J. C(?) Slorne, or possibly J. C. Sloane; presumably this was copied from the original backing by whoever replaced the back with the lined paper...From the dress and hairstyle of Anna, and the fact that it was a tintype, I think the photo dates from the early 1860s. She appears to be a young adult or possibly in her late teens.' 2) Barbara later estimated the age of the person in the photo to be 23 - 36. 3) Frances Preston (1796-1825), sister of Catharine, married a Benjamin Stanley 15 Jan 1824 in Brunswick, Va. In summary then, on the James E. Poythress side of the story, we have an Anna, born ca. 1824 - 1842 (assuming the tintype is 1860-65) who is called "cousin" by Mrs. James E. Poythress. ========== There you have what we know. Any additional information on Anna Stanley will be greatly appreciated. Best regards, Lyn P. Baird [email protected]

The fastest way to find all the information on almost any book is to look at its "verso page". It is usually the second page [behind the title page]. There you will find the tilte, author, publisher, and copyright date, the "call number" or dewey decimal number 743.xx, lca number , its subjects where you will find it in any library, all of these are important to find or order the book. if it is cheap per copy, then copy it and attach it to your pages you xerox out of a book. Patti

Maynard, in catching up on my email, I saw your statement below: 'We "know" Thomas was the father of George through numerous documents.' It would be appreciated if you could remind me of the specific references that show the relationship between Thomas and George. I know George's will shows George's relation to Lewis. I know we have documents that show the relationship between Meredith and Thomas. I do not recall anything that says George was son of Thomas. I do not recall anything that says Lewis was son of Thomas. So I very much look forward to hearing from you. Best regards, Lyn P. Baird [email protected] On Tue, 16 Apr 2002 01:16:42 EDT [email protected] writes: > Barbara, I guess I'd be inclined to say this one is a "for sure." > We "know" > Thomas was the father of George through numerous documents. And > then we > "know" that > George (dying in FL) is the brother of Lewis via the explicit > relationship > cited in George's will. True, it is possible that Lewis could have > had > "another" Thomas as his father but I'd think that one fairly > unlikely the way > the ages lined up. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

Thanks to Jane we have the Poythresses off of a new database: Henrico Parish in Docese of Virginia (from Ancestry) as below: Description: The history of the parish of Henrico in the Diocese of Virginia and especially of St. John's Church spans from 1611 to 1884. Lewis W. Burton, a rector of St. John's Church, compiled the records of this parish at the request of the Bishop in 1904. This database contains information regarding the lives of some of the clergy, the heads of prominent families in the church, pew holders, and communicants can be found here. The database also includes records on marriages, baptisms, burials, and epitaphs. Source Information: Ancestry.com. Annals of Henrico Parish, Diocese of Virginia, 1611-1884 [database on-line] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2002. Original data: Burton, Lewis W. Annals of Henrico Parish, Diocese of Virginia and especially of St. John's Church, the present mother church of the parish, from 1611 to 1884 Richmond, VA: Williams Printing Company, 1942. Annals of Henrico Parish, Diocese of Virginia, 1611-1884 Viewing records 1-2 of 2 Matches Annals of Henrico Parish List of Burials in the Old Churchyard. 30 May 1880 Name: Charlotte Reed Poythress Age: 3 months and 20 days Shockoe Hill Cemetery Annals of Henrico Parish List of Burials in the Old Churchyard. 26 Jun 1897 Name: Mrs. Charlotte Poythress Age: 72 years Hollywood Cemetery Comments: These two Charlotte Reed Poythresses are not BOTH the Charlotte Reed Poythress-A and the Charlotte Reed Poythress-B sisters who were daughters of William Powhatan Poythress and Louisa Campbell Mayo. The first Charlotte above is indeed Charlotte Reed Poythress-A who was b. 1880 and died at age 3+ months, buried in Shockoe Cemetery, Richmond. Batte's Charlotte Reed Poythress-B is b. 1881, d. 1906, aged 25. She dies in Richmond as a result of an accidental fall. I have her obituary around here somewhere but can't lay my hands on it. Batte comments further: "She was given the same name that had been given to her deceased sister, that of their grandmother. She was unmarried. The marble slab marking her grave in Hollywood, like all others in the lot bears only her name. It reads 'Charlotte Poythress' - no more." The SECOND "Charlotte Poythress" cited in the parish records above is indeed the grandmother for whom both sisters were named. She was b. 1825, d. 1897 at age 72....just as stated in the records of the Henrico Parish. She was Charlotte Reed who married William Peterson Poythress. William Peterson Poythress died in Nassau, BWI, during blockage running operations in the War for Southern Independence. Wife Charlotte Reed Poythress died in Richmond in 1897. The aunt of the two sisters and niece of the grandmother was Sarah Reed Poythress (1852-1927), unmarried. Batte states "Upon her decease in Richmond, passed the last living decendent of Joshua Poythress - 21 to be born with the surname 'Poythress.' The name thus became extinct in the "21" branch." MP

It may be of interest to some on our list that Virginia counties began maintaining birth and death records in 1853. This was very early relative to her sister southern states. Lewis Poythress died about 1845-46 so was a little early. Best regards, Lyn P. Baird [email protected] On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 18:51:15 -0400 Charles Neal <[email protected]> writes: > No, so far I have found nothing to indicate ANY name for a father for > James > E. Poythress, who was born 13 Aug 1803 in Mecklenburg Co, VA. > BPN > = = = = > From: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 15:52:56 EDT > Subject: Re: Lewis and David Poythress > To: [email protected] > > Barbara, did you ever find anything on your line , James Edward > Poythress, > that listed Lewis as his father? I don't know what they might have > had back > then, other than a Death Record or Burial Record. > Elaine ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

Thanks to all of you for the pointers and advice. I enjoyed my visit to the Family Center. Todays visit was mostly learning how everything works. The people were very nice and helpful, as you all said they would be. I ordered my first film and will learn how to use the Microfilm when it arrives. Today I tried out a few names to see how the system works. Elaine

Hi Elaine: Take with you the names with dates and places of those you wish to find information on. ,A pencil and some paper.When you make copies ,Make sure to copy the book cover or and write the call number and page and author.There will be some attendants there that will be very helpful. Feel free to ask for any help you need. Good Luck Let me know how it goes. Fred [email protected] On Wed, 8 May 2002 19:08:45 EDT [email protected] writes: > Tomorrow afternoon, I am making my first trip to Church of LDS > research > facility here in Denver, Co. Could some of you please give me an > idea on > what I should take with me? How or where to start? Maybe a small > intro to > things available at these Research Centers? > > I am not ashamed to say, I am totally clueless. I don't even know > what > microfiche is much less how to use one of the darn things. Well > wish me > luck. > > Elaine > > > ==== POYTHRESS Mailing List ==== > Poythress Geneaology Research Web > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~poythress/ > > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

Tomorrow afternoon, I am making my first trip to Church of LDS research facility here in Denver, Co. Could some of you please give me an idea on what I should take with me? How or where to start? Maybe a small intro to things available at these Research Centers? I am not ashamed to say, I am totally clueless. I don't even know what microfiche is much less how to use one of the darn things. Well wish me luck. Elaine

Could someone tell me if it has ever been proven that Martha (Patsy) ? who married Thomas James Poythress, was a Giles, or is this just speculation and we still need to be searching for who she was? Also, while I am on here, have any records been found on John4 Poythress, who married Mary Batte ? I have not seen anything on our Archives about him and what he did during his life. Maybe I overlooked them. Thanks for any help. Elaine

Fred, welcome. And yes, Elaine was correct that we have a Baird on our list - Lyn P. Baird. He usually has to catch up on his emails in batches after being off for a week or two at a time. Barbara (BPN)

Elaine, thanks for finding a Portess (possibly a Poythress) who is entirely new to me. Had to look to see where Limestone County is. In 1870 (& now) it is along the top edge of Alabama, on the stateline with Tennessee, midway across the top of Alabama. Certainly nowhere near any other Poythress people I'm aware of. This may stir up a hornets' nest again, but we've had many discussions in the past as to which numerous spellings various ones of us believe to actually be in the same family lines. Jury is perhaps still out on "Portess" but I think the last consensus was that it is less likely than some other spellings, since there is no "R" after the "T" in "Portess." At any rate, thanks for alerting us to your finds as you are surfing thru the valuable GenWeb listings! BPN

Hi F Baird again--The real baby of the group. I am going to take Elaines advice and give you a sampling of my Baird line so you pros can go to work. It was interesting to see the name R Bolling Batte as I am connected there,I would love to hear from this expert and others. So--- here goes---Lets start with John Baird b.ca.1675 md. Margaret Rookings. He bought land in Jamestown and later in Prince George County on Chippokes Creek and moved his family there. In 1726 he was made Justice of the peace in that county, and Vestryman.He had children Rook,Reubin, John, and Ephraim.Rook md Elizabeth Heath. He had a son Benjamin b.ca.1720 Prince George Co. Va. and md. Sarah Batte Jones. 1743. .He owned land in Mechlenburg and Lunenburg counties. Their dau. Sarah md. into the wealthy and powerful SPEED family(John Speed Jr.)ca, 1766. Then John Batte Baird was bn.ca. 1745. in Surry Co Va. and md Jenny Jennings 18 Aug 1760. Then his brother, Alexander, Md. Jenny's sister Elizabeth.He was bn 20 Dec. 1747 Surry Co. Va. They seemed to enjoy building dams and Mills.Abt. 1773 they moved to Anson Co. NC and Montgomery Co. John Batte and Jenny was there as well also in Washington and Greene Counties TN.and Abbeville SC.John Batte had sons Alexander, William and Thomas.John and William went to Franklin Co> Ga. 1799.Alexander 1813 war of 1812 and disappears William and family went to Marion Perry Co. Ala. then to Miss.and d. 1737 Noxubee Co.John Batte md. 2nd a Mary Raiford.in SC. OK that should get you started. Let me hear from ya'll. Thank you Fred On Wed, 1 May 2002 20:27:50 EDT [email protected] writes: > Hello and welcome. I am the baby of this group or should I say I was > until > you came aboard. I have not been researching for very long myself. > I have > learned so much about my line of Poythress due in part to a > wonderful forum > at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~poythress/ and the > wonderful > group of researchers that members of this forum. There is, I > believe, a Lyn > Baird who is part of this forum, am I correct, they will let me know > if I am > wrong. I am sure some of the "Pros" as I call them, can help you > figure out > if you are connected to a Poythress somewhere. > > If I may suggest, posting a sampling of your Baird line, so there > would be > information to work with. > > Elaine > > > ==== POYTHRESS Mailing List ==== > Poythress Geneaology Research Web > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~poythress/ > > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

I ran across a Pleasant Portess on the 1870 Alabama Census. Has anyone run across a Pleasant before. There are no other people listed in this household. Census Year: 1870 State : Alabama County: Limestone Division: Township 3 Range 6 LN HN FN LAST NAME FIRST NAME AGE SEX RACE OCCUP 31 253 229 Portess Pleasant 29 M M Farmer

Hello and welcome. I am the baby of this group or should I say I was until you came aboard. I have not been researching for very long myself. I have learned so much about my line of Poythress due in part to a wonderful forum at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~poythress/ and the wonderful group of researchers that members of this forum. There is, I believe, a Lyn Baird who is part of this forum, am I correct, they will let me know if I am wrong. I am sure some of the "Pros" as I call them, can help you figure out if you are connected to a Poythress somewhere. If I may suggest, posting a sampling of your Baird line, so there would be information to work with. Elaine

Well, the assertion made at the Pace site certainly seems to discredit the Rebecca Poythress "m." Richard Pace lore -- LOUDLY, too. And if I follow the argument in its entirety, we are led to believe that Rebecca, daughter of Rebecca (Coggin?) Poythress and Maj. Francis Poythress, NEVER married. Everybody else get that, and buy it? (I think I do based on the evidence presented.) But then it gets kind of wild... Quotes attributed to Mr. Bruce Howard are "There was an older Capt. Francis Poythress who died in the 1660's. He was not the father of Major Francis Poythress..." He wasn't? Did I miss something while I was sleeping? But a couple of sentences later he refers to "Mr. Francis Poythress, Sr., and Jr. of Prince George County." I lost him; is he referring (using Sr. and Jr.) to Francis (m. Rebecca) as "Sr.", and his son Francis as "Jr."? If so, where do WE stand on the assertion that the Francis who died in the 1660's [I have "before 1661"] was NOT the father of Major Francis Poyhtress (d. ca. 1692)? I would certainly like to see the reasoning or evidence for the foregoing statement (attributed to Bruce Howard). Maybe I have a better idea... Why don't we sit back and let the Pace group do our genealogy for us? :-) Lou -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 10:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Pace/Poythress What was the harmless error and who committed it?.....Mike Mike.....go to Google.com, a search engine. Put in "Pace/Poythress". The very first entry is titled Pace/Poythress and further even in this entry is a reference to click on to get to the Pace Page. The two combined are more than anyone ever wanted or needed to know on the subject. A guy named Roy Johnson is fronting for a Bruce Howard (pay no attention to that man behind the curtain). Anyway, according to Mr. Howard (who speaks ex cathedra) the dastardly deed was done by a Mrs. Mehrkens, once the head Pacer but a failure in her sacred charge. Mr. Howard sets her straight. I view the whole matter with insouciance and doubt that you would be disinvited to the FD100 soiree in either case.<g> Maynard ==== POYTHRESS Mailing List ==== Poythress Geneaology Research Web http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~poythress/

I just joined this group----New ----sooI am not aware of any of your previous discussions. I have seen this POYTHRESS name come up every once in a while when I have been searching on the BAIRD /BEARD LISTS,so I know some of them somewhere are related possibly ,to my line, If anyone out there is aware of any BAIRD connections I would be pleased to hear from you. Thank You Fred ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

What was the harmless error and who committed it?.....Mike Mike.....go to Google.com, a search engine. Put in "Pace/Poythress". The very first entry is titled Pace/Poythress and further even in this entry is a reference to click on to get to the Pace Page. The two combined are more than anyone ever wanted or needed to know on the subject. A guy named Roy Johnson is fronting for a Bruce Howard (pay no attention to that man behind the curtain). Anyway, according to Mr. Howard (who speaks ex cathedra) the dastardly deed was done by a Mrs. Mehrkens, once the head Pacer but a failure in her sacred charge. Mr. Howard sets her straight. I view the whole matter with insouciance and doubt that you would be disinvited to the FD100 soiree in either case.<g> Maynard

Hello to all. It sure has been quiet lately. While doing some research on one of the other lines I am tracing, I ran across two Poythress'. I don't know if you have already spotted them before. They were in a USGenWeb Archives Spanish American War First North Carolina Regiment Company I ( i ) Private Henry M. Poythress Durham, NC Second North Carolina Regiment Company I ( i ) Private Wm. M. Poytriss Roanoke Rapids, NC I don't know who they belong to but I am sure some of you do. Elaine