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    1. Re: Newman Dortch -James Speed chancery case
    2. Julie Cabitto
    3. Sorry, it is Mecklenburg County VA. I'll send you a copy :) Love, Julie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara P. Neal" <bp_neal@earthlink.net> To: <POYTHRESS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 8:47 PM Subject: Re: Newman Dortch -James Speed chancery case > Thanks Julie for letting us know you got it. Can you please refresh our > memory re the citation, & in which county, for this case? > > And yes, I would very much appreciate reading the transcription after > you finish it. > > Thanks, > Barbara (BPN) > > > ==== POYTHRESS Mailing List ==== > Poythress Genealogy Research Web > www.poythress.net >

    07/20/2005 04:43:06
    1. Newman Dortch -James Speed chancery case
    2. Julie Cabitto
    3. I got the Chancery case today, finally! Newman Dortch is supposed to be father-in-law of Sarah Poythress married to William Archer Dortch. I was bummed that there was no mention of any children or grand children for Newman. Here's info that may interest some of you. According to this chancery case, filed Feb 1826: James Speed had four children: 1-Martha Speed married to Nathaniel Moss 2- Mary Speed married to Lewis Dortch 3- Sally Speed married to Newman Dortch 4- Elizabeth Speed. Note: Lewis Dortch and Newman Dortch were brothers. Lewis and Mary Speed were not in VA in April 1826 when they were summoned to court. Sarah Ann Speed was referred to as Sally. Newman Dortch and Sally Speed moved into James Speed's house while he was still living in Sept 1821. "Courthouse Rd" ran through part of the property was. Not sure where that was. So unfortunately was not able to find out any Poythress info from this case. If you are interested in a transcribed copy when I finish it, let me know. I can also scan a copy of the plat. I do not see at first read through, a resolution to the case. I ordered some deed indexes. I plan to follow the paper trail of this land to see if any Dortch or Poythress inherited this house in case there may be a family cemetery on the old homestead. There is no mention of James Speed's wife, so I am guessing she may have died long before he did. It's pretty cool to see signatures of a gr....grandpa Newman Dortch in the 1820's :) Love, Julie

    07/20/2005 02:28:45
    1. Re: Newman Dortch -James Speed chancery case
    2. Barbara P. Neal
    3. Thanks Julie for letting us know you got it. Can you please refresh our memory re the citation, & in which county, for this case? And yes, I would very much appreciate reading the transcription after you finish it. Thanks, Barbara (BPN)

    07/20/2005 11:47:42
    1. BellSouth DSL Prices
    2. John M. Poythress
    3. This for the couple of us and their friends who still are on BellSouth DSL: I had gotten fed up paying 42.95/mo when cable was offering $30. Talked to BLS couple of times and got a Lillie Tomlin clone with a line of B. S. each time: "sorry, but you're not qualified for any discounts and Bell South IS competitive anyway." I was about 24 hrs. from phoning the cable company. Article in WSJ this AM "BellSouth Shaves DSL Prices" says anybody with both DSL and "basic" phone service was "eligible." Bell spokesman Jeff Batcher says "This is straightforward...No more of the gimmicks." Price is cut $10/mo to 32.95. Of course this still compares to cable at about $30 and Comcast at 19.95 and SBC at 14.95 but the last two don't serve my area and I just as soon not change for $3 a month. Besides, in another couple of years they'll be giving DSL away when you buy a pizza anyway. I email chatted with BLS to inquire about my status and be sure that I qualify as having "basic" service; that is, without call forwarding or any of those other bells and whistles they always want to pile on you. Lady says, yes sir, all you have to do is phone the billing office to change your billing and you'll be billed $32.95 (plus all the customary mickey mouse add-ons I'm sure) effective 7/24. What happens if one didn't read the article in the WSJ and/or didn't know to phone 'em..gee, I guess they would have just kept billing at the turkey price forever..it ain't your father's phone company any more. I'll withhold judgment on whether or not there are "gimmicks" in here when I see my first bill; the ISP market has gotten about as sleezy as used cars..blessed is he who expects nothing, for he shall never be disappointed..Alexander Pope I'm seeming to remember <g>. Maynard

    07/20/2005 10:15:43
    1. Rev War info websites
    2. Barbara P. Neal
    3. Thanks, Maynard. 7/19/2005 John M. Poythress wrote: > A post from Amelia board this morning. I sent it as a "link" when it > first appeared on the Dinwiddie board but Outlook told me it didn't go > through. Some of it's helpful but you sure have to get surprised by a > bunch of Ancestry.Com links with their usual line "pay me." > Maynard > > > I've been working on a Revolutionary War project and I've gathered links > to some helpful genealogy sites. The first section is a general one and > the second is devoted to Virginia. Nancy > > GENERAL: > > The American Revolutionary War: American Units, British Units, Loyalits, > Battles, Campaigns http://www.myrevolutionarywar.com/ > > Military Links Collection Revolutionary War > http://www.usigs.org/library/military/links/revwar.html > > Revolutionary War Records > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/military/revolutionary/ > > Revolutionary War Military Records Research > http://www.geneoalgy.com/24_myra_print.html > > The Revolutionary War > http://aklein.webhostme.com/war/revolutionary_war.htm > > American Revolution Links > http://ushistory.org/march/links.htm > > Loyalist Resources http://olivetreegenealogy.com/loy/loyres.shtml > > Hessian Soldiers of the Revolution > http://member.tripod.com/~Silvie/Hessian.html > > US Army Center of Military; Bibliographies of the War of American > Independence http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/reference/revbib/revwar.htm > > U.S. Military Records Research Outline > http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/RG/images/34118_Military.pdf > > American Revolutionary War Soldiers & Their Descendants > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ars/ > > Revolutionary War Information http://www.revolutionary-war.info/ > > VIRGINIA: > > Using Virginia Revolutionary War Records > http://www.lva.lib.va.us/whatwehave/mil/rn8_varev.htm > > The Revolution in Virginia http://www.ls.net/~newriver/va/varevtoc.htm > > Military Records and Resources http://www.lva.lib.va.us/whatwehave/mil/ > > Sources for Virginia Genealogy Research > http://genealogy.about.com/library/authors/uclittle1f.htm > > Revolutionary War Records http://www.mindspring.com/~kellcin/revwar.htm > > > Nancy, visit the family: > My G-Grandfather's Attic > www.geocities.com/twincousin2334

    07/19/2005 04:08:04
    1. John M. Poythress
    2. A post from Amelia board this morning. I sent it as a "link" when it first appeared on the Dinwiddie board but Outlook told me it didn't go through. Some of it's helpful but you sure have to get surprised by a bunch of Ancestry.Com links with their usual line "pay me." Maynard I've been working on a Revolutionary War project and I've gathered links to some helpful genealogy sites. The first section is a general one and the second is devoted to Virginia. Nancy GENERAL: The American Revolutionary War: American Units, British Units, Loyalits, Battles, Campaigns http://www.myrevolutionarywar.com/ Military Links Collection Revolutionary War http://www.usigs.org/library/military/links/revwar.html Revolutionary War Records http://www.accessgenealogy.com/military/revolutionary/ Revolutionary War Military Records Research http://www.geneoalgy.com/24_myra_print.html The Revolutionary War http://aklein.webhostme.com/war/revolutionary_war.htm American Revolution Links http://ushistory.org/march/links.htm Loyalist Resources http://olivetreegenealogy.com/loy/loyres.shtml Hessian Soldiers of the Revolution http://member.tripod.com/~Silvie/Hessian.html US Army Center of Military; Bibliographies of the War of American Independence http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/reference/revbib/revwar.htm U.S. Military Records Research Outline http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/RG/images/34118_Military.pdf American Revolutionary War Soldiers & Their Descendants http://www.rootsweb.com/~ars/ Revolutionary War Information http://www.revolutionary-war.info/ VIRGINIA: Using Virginia Revolutionary War Records http://www.lva.lib.va.us/whatwehave/mil/rn8_varev.htm The Revolution in Virginia http://www.ls.net/~newriver/va/varevtoc.htm Military Records and Resources http://www.lva.lib.va.us/whatwehave/mil/ Sources for Virginia Genealogy Research http://genealogy.about.com/library/authors/uclittle1f.htm Revolutionary War Records http://www.mindspring.com/~kellcin/revwar.htm Nancy, visit the family: My G-Grandfather's Attic www.geocities.com/twincousin2334

    07/19/2005 10:14:07
    1. RE: Poythress Mill
    2. Ted Kingsbury
    3. That's about six miles from the home of the "other" Peter Poythress of Branchester, where there was apparently another mill. Just to avoid confusion, the daughter, Christian, mentioned in the quote below, was the sister of Peter of Flowerdew Hundred, and daughter of John P. The daughter, Ann who married Richard Bland, was the sole heir. Perhaps that's how the mill's name changed from Poythress' Mill to Bland's Mill. There were certainly plenty of Cocke's in the area who could have obtained the mill through marriage or purchase. Ted Kingsbury -----Original Message----- From: Barbara P. Neal [mailto:bp_neal@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 11:30 AM To: POYTHRESS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Poythress Mill I don't know whether it would be the same mill or not, but the location sounds like it could be. First I looked on MapQuest to see where Garysville is located. It is at the intersection of the Old Stage Road and James River Drive (aka state/county? Route 10 -- the road from Hopewell toward Surry). MapQuest doesn't show Powell's Creek, so if one of you has some source that shows Powell's Creek, perhaps we can tell if this is the same mill. I found the following in our Poythress-List Message Archives, one of Michael Tutor's wonderful "Poythress Chronicles" messages, from 17 Jan 2004: In Michael's section regarding "Peter Poythress (c. 1684-), son of John Poythress (c. 1639-1712)" with the info coming from "A Virginia Heritage" by Eleanor Brown Merrill. Michael noted that this book was privately printed in 1968 and is in The National Genealogical Society Library. CS71.B88 1968 C.1 6417. Michael abstracted info from pages 51 and 52, ending with the following paragraph: "From the above we gather that Peter Poythress married Mrs. Ann Baker; they owned a water mill on Powell's Creek sold to them by John Hardyman, and had one daughter, Anne, who married Richard Bland of "Jordans;" the grandson of John Bland who in 1657 had acquired this tract of land from the first Benjamin Harrison's widow. A daughter, Christian Poythress, married John Fitzgerald and their daughter, Elizabeth, married Archibald Robertson; whence came the dual relationship of Susannah Peachy Poythress, whose aunt, Mrs. Richard Eppes of Appomattox Manor, is referred to later..." 7/10/2005 John M. Poythress wrote: > Well, we have (or had) ourselves a street in Hopewell and a creek in > King George County. Anybody care to try for a grist mill in Garyville? > We have any live members who poke about in the Petersburg library? <g> > > Maynard > > HScherer wrote: > Hello, List---I was researching the William Gary family in Prince > George Co, VA ., in 1713. He lived in a small town of Garysville, > "located a short distance from Hopewell, some eleven miles east of > Petersburg, on the old stage road between Richmond and Norfolk, VA It > has a large grist mill, so essential to the early settlers. The old > mill was called 'Poythess Mill', 'Bland Mill' and finally 'Cocke > Mill', probably named for subsequent owners." > I don't remember reading about a Poythress owning a grist mill in > Garysville. Thought you'd like this tidbit. > Harriet ==== POYTHRESS Mailing List ==== Poythress Genealogy Research Web www.poythress.net

    07/11/2005 12:25:23
    1. Re: Poythress Mill
    2. Barbara P. Neal
    3. Aha, right after sending off my below message just now, I coaxed MapQuest into showing the creeks of the area of Garysville. Indeed Powell's Creek runs right there (about 0.1 to 0.2 mile from the intersection mentioned below). Barbara Barbara P. Neal wrote: > I don't know whether it would be the same mill or not, but the location sounds like it could be. First I looked on MapQuest to see where Garysville is located. It is at the intersection of the Old Stage Road and James River Drive (aka state/county? Route 10 -- the road from Hopewell toward Surry). MapQuest doesn't show Powell's Creek, so if one of you has some source that shows Powell's Creek, perhaps we can tell if this is the same mill. > > I found the following in our Poythress-List Message Archives, one of Michael Tutor's wonderful "Poythress Chronicles" messages, from 17 Jan 2004: > > In Michael's section regarding "Peter Poythress (c. 1684-), son of John Poythress (c. 1639-1712)" with the info coming from "A Virginia Heritage" by Eleanor Brown Merrill. Michael noted that this book was privately printed in 1968 and is in The National Genealogical Society Library. CS71.B88 1968 C.1 6417. Michael abstracted info from pages 51 and 52, ending with the following paragraph: > > "From the above we gather that Peter Poythress married Mrs. Ann Baker; they owned a water mill on Powell's Creek sold to them by John Hardyman, and had one daughter, Anne, who married Richard Bland of "Jordans;" the grandson of John Bland who in 1657 had acquired this tract of land from the first Benjamin Harrison's widow. A daughter, Christian Poythress, married John Fitzgerald and their daughter, Elizabeth, married Archibald Robertson; whence came the dual relationship of Susannah Peachy Poythress, whose aunt, Mrs. Richard Eppes of Appomattox Manor, is referred to later..."

    07/11/2005 02:37:00
    1. Re: Poythress Mill
    2. Barbara P. Neal
    3. I don't know whether it would be the same mill or not, but the location sounds like it could be. First I looked on MapQuest to see where Garysville is located. It is at the intersection of the Old Stage Road and James River Drive (aka state/county? Route 10 -- the road from Hopewell toward Surry). MapQuest doesn't show Powell's Creek, so if one of you has some source that shows Powell's Creek, perhaps we can tell if this is the same mill. I found the following in our Poythress-List Message Archives, one of Michael Tutor's wonderful "Poythress Chronicles" messages, from 17 Jan 2004: In Michael's section regarding "Peter Poythress (c. 1684-), son of John Poythress (c. 1639-1712)" with the info coming from "A Virginia Heritage" by Eleanor Brown Merrill. Michael noted that this book was privately printed in 1968 and is in The National Genealogical Society Library. CS71.B88 1968 C.1 6417. Michael abstracted info from pages 51 and 52, ending with the following paragraph: "From the above we gather that Peter Poythress married Mrs. Ann Baker; they owned a water mill on Powell's Creek sold to them by John Hardyman, and had one daughter, Anne, who married Richard Bland of "Jordans;" the grandson of John Bland who in 1657 had acquired this tract of land from the first Benjamin Harrison's widow. A daughter, Christian Poythress, married John Fitzgerald and their daughter, Elizabeth, married Archibald Robertson; whence came the dual relationship of Susannah Peachy Poythress, whose aunt, Mrs. Richard Eppes of Appomattox Manor, is referred to later..." 7/10/2005 John M. Poythress wrote: > Well, we have (or had) ourselves a street in Hopewell and a creek in > King > George County. Anybody care to try for a grist mill in Garyville? > We have any live members who poke about in the Petersburg > library? <g> > > Maynard > > HScherer wrote: > Hello, List---I was researching the William Gary > family in Prince George Co, VA ., in 1713. He lived > in a small town of Garysville, "located a short > distance from Hopewell, some eleven miles east of > Petersburg, on the old stage road between Richmond > and Norfolk, VA It has a large grist mill, so > essential to the early settlers. The old mill was > called 'Poythess Mill', 'Bland Mill' and finally > 'Cocke Mill', probably named for subsequent owners." > I don't remember reading about a Poythress owning a > grist mill in Garysville. Thought you'd like this > tidbit. > Harriet

    07/11/2005 02:29:39
    1. Whitney F. Poythress, Jr. Co-pilot World War II
    2. Barbara P. Neal
    3. Dear List-subscribers, We are fortunate to learn much more this week about Whitney Fulton Poythress, Jr., who died in combat in World War II. Some of you may recall that on 14 Jan 2004 Elaine ran across the first info about him on Ancestry.com as follows, and she asked if any of us knew who he was: "World War II and Korean Conflict Veterans Interred Overseas Name: Whitney F. Poythress Jr. Inducted From: North Carolina Rank: Second Lieutenant Combat Organization: 568th Bomber Squadron 390th Bomber Death Date: Dec.11, 1943 Monument: The Netherlands Last Known Status: Missing U.S. Awards: Purple Heart Medal, Air Medal, Additional Army Awards" This weekend, Elaine and I heard from Terry Row, whose father (Perry V. Row) was the B-17 Pilot with whom Whitney F. Poythress, Jr. trained and served as Co-pilot. They and their B-17 Flying Fortress bomber, named the “Phyllis Marie,” after Perry's wife, were stationed for a tour of duty (then 25 missions) at Framlingham Army Air Field, near Ipswich, England, from Sept. 1943, through Feb. 1944. They were with the 8th Air Force, 390th Bombardment Group (H), 568th Squadron. Terry is researching in order to write a book, entitled “Phyllis Marie,” for Clifton Edwin Publishing, and ran across Elaine's above posting. Terry gave us a lot of info for our Poythress Research website, including a fuzzy photo of the crew in front the "Phyllis Marie" and an official military portrait of Whitney F. Poythress, Jr., who was known as Billy. I'll be sending the info and the photos to our webmaster, Al TIms, requesting he post it. In the meantime, if any of you want the photos, please email me and I'll be glad to email them to you. Below I have combined Terry's info with more that Elaine and I have found. Much of his included information from his parents, Phyllis Row, living, and Perry V. Row, who died in 1997. (Unless I note that Elaine or I found the info, it came from Terry.) WHITNEY FULTON POYTHRESS, JR. was born June 11, 1922, in Chapel Hill, North Carolina. He graduated from Chapel Hill High School and attended the University of North Carolina in the ROTC program. His address before the war was 113 Kenan Drive; Chapel Hill, NC. His father, Whitney Fulton Poythress, went by the nickname “Bill,” for reason unknown to Terry, and Whitney Jr. was known as “Billy,” as early as grammar school. Terry did not know Billy's mother's name. Elaine found Billy's mother listed as "Lillie" with W.F. Poythress, Sr., in the 1930 Census in Chapel Hill, Orange County, NC. See Elaine's Poythress Census info at our Poythress Research website www.poythress.net). In 1930, W.F. Jr. was the only child in the W.F. Poythress household. I found in the Social Security Death Index (SSDI) at RootsWeb that Lillie M. Poythress (born 13 Sep 1902) died 4 March 1991; her Social Security number was issued in NC. Her husband, Whitney Poythress, Sr., is listed in the SSDI as Whitney Poythress; born 12 Dec 1900; died May 1982; last residence in zip 27514, which is Chapel Hill, Orange Co, NC; his Social Security number was also issued in NC. The SSDI is found at http://ssdi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi Further, thru the earlier Censuses, Elaine found more of Billy's family line: Whitney Poythress, Sr. was found in the 1910 Census (age 9) and the 1920 Census (age 19) in the same area (Chapel Hill, Orange Co, NC), in home of his parents, Simeon E. and Ola Poythress (So these would be the paternal grandparents of Billy aka Whitney Poythress, Jr). In the 1900 Census, those grandparents Simeon & Ola Poythress were in the same county, with no children yet. In the 1880 Census, Elaine found Simeon Poythress (age 12, born in NC) in Chatham County, NC (Baldwin Twp), in the home of his parents George W. and Permelia Poythress (So these would be the paternal great-grandparents of Billy aka Whitney Poythress, Jr). George W. Poythress was listed as age 43 and born in VA. In the 1870 Census, Elaine also found Simeon in Person County, NC (Flat River Twp); Simeon was listed as age 2 and born in NC, in the home of his parents, George W. & Permelia Poythress. George W. Poythress was listed as age 31, born in VA. Most likely this George W. Poythress (great-grandfather of "Billy" Whitney Fulton Poythress, Jr.) was a son of David Poythress of Mecklenburg Co, VA (who was born in January of 1800). In the 1850 Mecklenburg Co, VA Census, David's son George W. was shown as age 9. This "George W." child is the only George Poythress having a middle initial of "W" who we find in the Virginia Censuses. (There was one other Poythress child in Virginia named George, who was son of the huckster Benjamin Poythress, but we know from descendents in that line that his name was George Alexander Poythress, not George W.) Terry knew that "Billy" Whitney Fulton Poythress, Jr. had no brothers, but had two younger sisters, who were perhaps 10 or 11 years younger. One sister's name was Patsy; the other sister's name was unknown. Billy married Francis (Fran) Montjoy, the daughter of the Manager of the local A & P grocery store in Chapel Hill. Billy worked for Mr. Montjoy. He and Fran knew each other all through grammar school and high school before marrying, sometime around 1942, certainly before May of 1943, which is when Terry's parents met them both in Walla Walla, Washington. Billy and Fran Poythress had no children. Billy enlisted in the Army Air Corps and was trained at Maxwell and Gunter Fields in Alabama; Blytheville Field, Arkansas; Ephrata Army Air Field at Walla Walla, Washington; and Redmond Army Air Field at Redmond, Oregon before going overseas for combat duty. Terry's father, then 2nd Lt. Perry V. Row, was assigned to Ephrata Army Air Field near Walla Walla, Washington on April 22, 1943 for B-17 Pilot Training School. On May 11, he selected the first 5 members of his 10-man crew, and on May 16, 1943, he was assigned a Co-Pilot: 2nd Lt. Whitney F. Poythress, Jr. -- "Billy." They became good friends. Billy & Fran, and Perry & Phyllis, along with 4 other officers & their wives, lived together in Oregon in a condemned hospital building with 6 rooms, one kitchen, and one bathroom. That crew flew together on all training missions at Ephrata and Redmond, Oregon, and on all combat missions out of Framlingham Air Field, near Ipswich, England, except for Billy's final mission. They were a tight bunch, a family. Perry Row referred to Billy as being like a brother to him. Phyllis Row remembers Billy and Fran often buying little gifts for Billy's little sisters. After the crew’s first combat mission, Perry was promoted to 1st. Lt. Whenever crew 7 flew in “Phyllis Marie,” they seemed to be charmed. The only injury among the ten men through sixteen missions came when they were flying a different aircraft, when one man was wounded in the arm. The only serious damage to aircraft they flew came when they flew in substitute aircraft, while “Phyllis Marie” was in the Maintenance Yard. On several occasions, they received heavy flak. On Dec. 11, 1943, for that crew's 17th mission (a mission to the port area of Emden, Germany), the “Phyllis Marie” was chosen as the Deputy Lead airplane, second in command for the entire squadron. As a result, the Co-Pilot, Billy Poythress, was not assigned to the flight, because his seat was given to the Deputy Command Pilot, one of the 390th Bombardment Group's senior officers, Major Good. Not wanting to be left back from the mission, Billy wrangled his way on board the Lead airplane, named “Six Nights in Telergma,” piloted by veteran Pilot Hiram Skogmo. For that mission, Billy was assigned as the Tail Gunner and Observer. It was his duty as Observer to watch the formation of the entire squadron (18 planes) and direct traffic, instructing pilots to move their airplanes in closer or out further, as necessary. When Billy, facing backwards, looked to his immediate left, he could see his regular plane, the “Phyllis Marie.” When Perry looked to his immediate left, he could see the Lead plane with Billy in the tail gunner position. After the squadron crossed the English Channel, at landfall over the Netherlands, six German fighter planes appeared directly in front of the squadron, coming in fast, firing rockets. They concentrated their fire on the lead ship, knocking it out of the air. The crew of the “Phyllis Marie” watched helplessly, as the plane went down in flames. They counted three parachutes leave the airplane, but not from Billy’s Tail Gunner position. Another 30 enemy aircraft joined the battle, and an additional 4 B-17s were knocked down in the battle. Lt. Row, as Deputy Lead, moved up into the Lead position, and led the squadron on the bombing raid. When his bombardier called “Bombs Away,” all the bombardiers in the squadron let loose their bombs. The 390th were later credited with destroying 11 fighters, probably destroying 3 others, and damaging 8. Because of poor weather, the bombing could not be assessed that day. The “Phyllis Marie” returned to base with no injury and no damage, as usual. Billy, then age 21, was listed as Missing In Action (MIA). One of the three parachutes that fell on Dec 11, 1943 from “Six Nights in Telergma,” carried a man who became a Prisoner Of War (POW), and after the war, he confirmed that the other 7 crew members that day went down with the ship. Thus sometime after 1947, Billy’s listing was officially changed to Killed In Action (KIA). As noted in Elaine's original posting, copied above, his name is inscribed on a tablet in one of our American Cemeteries in the Netherlands. Those cemeteries are administered by the American Battle Monuments Commission. Perry V. Row and the rest of the original crew completed their 25 missions with several different Co-Pilots filling in. The only additional injuries to members of crew 7 came at a ground school lecture on armaments, when an incendiary bomb exploded and 4 crewmembers received minor injuries. Row, by then a Captain, was sitting in the front row, right in front of the bomb, but he escaped injury. After the 9 survivors of the original crew rotated home in February of 1944, another crew took over the “Phyllis Marie.” On their first mission in the airplane, March 8, 1944, the plane was badly damaged. Most of that new crew parachuted to safety, but because one crewmember was wounded and couldn’t get out, the Pilot landed safely behind enemy lines in Germany. Those crewmembers finished the war as POWs. The “Phyllis Marie” was captured intact and added to the German KG-200 Air Force (captured foreign aircraft) and used by the Germans as a decoy, attacking American formations and causing confusion until the end of the war. Billy's mother did not shared Phyllis Row's letters with her daughters, but when she died, Patsy and her sister found the letters, tied up with ribbon. In the early 1990s, shortly after their mother died, Billy's sister Patsy and her husband located and visited Perry and Phyllis Row in California. Regarding the photos Terry Row sent: One is the official portrait of Lt. Whitney Fulton (Billy) Poythress, Jr. (Bpn note: I note from the original info that Elaine found that he may still have been a 2nd Lt. when he died, though Terry's info with his portrait said 1st Lt. I have no info re if/when Billy was promoted from 2nd Lt. to 1st Lt.) For the other photo, Terry noted the names of the crewmembers as follows, and he added "If this crew ever posed for a formal photograph (officers, standing behind the enlisted men, kneeling), I have never seen it. I think this photograph, with officers and enlisted men scattered randomly, is a reflection of what a tight family this crew was." Front row (L-R, kneeling): 1st Lt. James Fitzsimmons - Bombardier, T/Sgt. Erice Bennett - Engineer/Top Turret. Back row: (L-R): S/Sgt. Louis Kiss - Tail Gunner, 1st Lt. Lester Boettcher - Navigator, S/Sgt. Robert McCormick - Waist Gunner, S/Sgt. Arthur Dix - Ball Turret, T/Sgt. Mathias Biehl - Radio Operator, 1st Lt. Whitney Poythress - Co-Pilot, S/Sgt. Walter Byrne - Waist Gunner, 1st Lt. Perry Row - Pilot. Behind the crew is a good shot of the "Phyllis Marie" - a B-17F. It was accepted by USAAF 14 Jul 43. Denver Mod Center 17 Jul 43. Scott Field 10 Aug 43. 8th AF 24 Aug 43. Assigned to Lt. Row and crew 12 Sep 43. Assigned to Lt. Quackenbush 4 Mar 44. MIA Berlin 8 Mar 44. Landed intact at Werben, Germany. Assigned by Luftwaffe to KG200. All crew POW.

    07/10/2005 01:19:04
    1. Poythress Mill
    2. John M. Poythress
    3. Well, we have (or had) ourselves a street in Hopewell and a creek in King George County. Anybody care to try for a grist mill in Garyville? We have any live members who poke about in the Petersburg library? <g> Maynard HScherer wrote: Hello, List---I was researching the William Gary family in Prince George Co, VA ., in 1713. He lived in a small town of Garysville, "located a short distance from Hopewell, some eleven miles east of Petersburg, on the old stage road between Richmond and Norfolk, VA It has a large grist mill, so essential to the early settlers. The old mill was called 'Poythess Mill', 'Bland Mill' and finally 'Cocke Mill', probably named for subsequent owners." I don't remember reading about a Poythress owning a grist mill in Garysville. Thought you'd like this tidbit. Harriet

    07/10/2005 12:07:37
    1. Re: Database CD
    2. Michael Tutor
    3. The Poythress CD had to be a herculean effort encompassing hours of work. This was a great idea Maynard. It seems that you possess the greatest comprehensive compilation of material extant on the family. I really appreciate the copy of the CD and your efforts in making this CD available for future study.......Thank you, Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "John M. Poythress" <brerfox@bellsouth.net> To: <POYTHRESS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 7:44 PM Subject: Database CD > For some time now I have felt a need to capture in one place the > Poythress > and related family information we have accumulated over the past years. > For one > thing, nothing new has been posted to the website for several years..and > during > that interim many of you have made great contributions of citations of > legal > records, copies of histories, etc. I have accumulated quite a pile > myself. > > Over the past few months I have been trying to capture all of this > information on > a single CD-ROM to share with those of you that I think would be > interested in > the information. I make no claim to having it "all." However, I likely > have a ton of it and it's also likely that I have some material > unavailable (or at least "unpublished" on the listserver) before. > > There are no adverse copyright implications on any of this material. It > is either public domain or constitutes fair use, largely based on the > two principles that it is legitimate academic research and second, that > no one is either selling the stuff or "chilling" anybody else's market. > > While we are all hugely grateful to fellow-contributors, I have made no > attempt to claim or assign "credit" for any of this work and likewise I > don't want to create any unrealistic expectation that it is a > well-organized "study." It is simply a record of what has been > accumulated that I have in my "storage." My purposes in wanting to > share this information with you are several: 1) perhaps I can add to > your own information, 2) I hope that each of you will be so kind as to > forward me corrections and or missing pieces (or whole chunks) that I > may have missed and that YOU have..and 3) of course, as these CDs get > distributed among you a database will exist which I hope might fall into > the hands of some future family historian and save him or her many, many > hours of work. > > While some of the information is inclusive of other states the > concentration on purpose is directed to Virginia, a topic on which we > all share a common interest. > > Below is a brief description of some of the "headings": > > ^ Batte...complete, the text, Diana's "lines", and scans of every one of > Batte's 205 index cards on Poythress courtesy of Ted Kingsbury. > > ^ Boddie.complete..all "scanned"..I will add at this point that when I > refer to scans you may expect to have to view these through a "viewer" > such as MS Photoeditor and magnify them either once or twice for > reading. And some of the scans get a bit ragged. Documents and pages > this old don't scan perfectly..or even well..and, as you all know, I'm > not especially technically hip. > > ^ Census (all states).essentially I used Elaine's work. > > ^ CSA service lists > > ^ Dr. W. B. Hall on Poythress..scanned in total. > > ^ Illustrations, various..thanks to all contributors. > > ^ Individual wills and estate administrations (69 of > them)..chronologically. > > ^ Poythress land patents..both direct grants/patents and the Poythress > references in other patents..arranged chronologically. > > ^ the Swem Index...essentially this amounts to scans of all the > Poythress > references from the various publications covered by the Swem indexes. > This is a huge number of scans, several hundred pages as a guess. > > ^ VA databases BY COUNTY. What I did here was to take all of the "runs" > of various specific documents, facts, etc., re-cut the pie "by counties" > and restacked them chronologically. > > ^ VA files & folders..this is quite lengthy but is an assortment of > documents not especially large enough for "headings" of their > own..Bristol Parish Records, the Maitland Bible, William Byrd Diary > entries, Rev. War Bounty Grants, etc. > > > All I need to mail you a CD (no charge) is a snail mail address..the > "expense" related to this project is minimal at the most and I am > delighted if it will bring any information here-to-now unknown to any of > you. Just send me your snail mail (if you wish privately to me at > brerfox@bellsouth.net ) and a CD will go out to you within only a day or > so. > > On a final note, I'll comment again to the effect that some of this > material is far from "complete" (although I tried to mention it when > ends were left dangling) and > what I would really love to have from you is information supplementing > what you will see (I hope) right off is that is missing and that YOU may > have. > > A good example of this is the patents. They are in several "forms": > full text, abstracts, surveyor talk, etc. I would like to get them all > into "full text" form and if you have such on any one or more just email > the information to me and I will bring the "master CD" up to date. > When all of you have gone through this process it will be a simple > matter to burn another set of CD's and mail out the revisions. CDs cost > about a nickel so this is not a federal case. > > And..also, don't forget that many of you will have full and complete > records of a number of documents that well may not even be included > here. Obviously, those are very important to the group..sent to me they > will be included on the master > CD. > > Be waiting to hear from you. > > Best, > > Maynard > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== POYTHRESS Mailing List ==== > Poythress Genealogy Research Web > www.poythress.net > >

    07/07/2005 08:35:52
    1. Database CD
    2. John M. Poythress
    3. For some time now I have felt a need to capture in one place the Poythress and related family information we have accumulated over the past years. For one thing, nothing new has been posted to the website for several years..and during that interim many of you have made great contributions of citations of legal records, copies of histories, etc. I have accumulated quite a pile myself. Over the past few months I have been trying to capture all of this information on a single CD-ROM to share with those of you that I think would be interested in the information. I make no claim to having it "all." However, I likely have a ton of it and it's also likely that I have some material unavailable (or at least "unpublished" on the listserver) before. There are no adverse copyright implications on any of this material. It is either public domain or constitutes fair use, largely based on the two principles that it is legitimate academic research and second, that no one is either selling the stuff or "chilling" anybody else's market. While we are all hugely grateful to fellow-contributors, I have made no attempt to claim or assign "credit" for any of this work and likewise I don't want to create any unrealistic expectation that it is a well-organized "study." It is simply a record of what has been accumulated that I have in my "storage." My purposes in wanting to share this information with you are several: 1) perhaps I can add to your own information, 2) I hope that each of you will be so kind as to forward me corrections and or missing pieces (or whole chunks) that I may have missed and that YOU have..and 3) of course, as these CDs get distributed among you a database will exist which I hope might fall into the hands of some future family historian and save him or her many, many hours of work. While some of the information is inclusive of other states the concentration on purpose is directed to Virginia, a topic on which we all share a common interest. Below is a brief description of some of the "headings": ^ Batte...complete, the text, Diana's "lines", and scans of every one of Batte's 205 index cards on Poythress courtesy of Ted Kingsbury. ^ Boddie.complete..all "scanned"..I will add at this point that when I refer to scans you may expect to have to view these through a "viewer" such as MS Photoeditor and magnify them either once or twice for reading. And some of the scans get a bit ragged. Documents and pages this old don't scan perfectly..or even well..and, as you all know, I'm not especially technically hip. ^ Census (all states).essentially I used Elaine's work. ^ CSA service lists ^ Dr. W. B. Hall on Poythress..scanned in total. ^ Illustrations, various..thanks to all contributors. ^ Individual wills and estate administrations (69 of them)..chronologically. ^ Poythress land patents..both direct grants/patents and the Poythress references in other patents..arranged chronologically. ^ the Swem Index...essentially this amounts to scans of all the Poythress references from the various publications covered by the Swem indexes. This is a huge number of scans, several hundred pages as a guess. ^ VA databases BY COUNTY. What I did here was to take all of the "runs" of various specific documents, facts, etc., re-cut the pie "by counties" and restacked them chronologically. ^ VA files & folders..this is quite lengthy but is an assortment of documents not especially large enough for "headings" of their own..Bristol Parish Records, the Maitland Bible, William Byrd Diary entries, Rev. War Bounty Grants, etc. All I need to mail you a CD (no charge) is a snail mail address..the "expense" related to this project is minimal at the most and I am delighted if it will bring any information here-to-now unknown to any of you. Just send me your snail mail (if you wish privately to me at brerfox@bellsouth.net ) and a CD will go out to you within only a day or so. On a final note, I'll comment again to the effect that some of this material is far from "complete" (although I tried to mention it when ends were left dangling) and what I would really love to have from you is information supplementing what you will see (I hope) right off is that is missing and that YOU may have. A good example of this is the patents. They are in several "forms": full text, abstracts, surveyor talk, etc. I would like to get them all into "full text" form and if you have such on any one or more just email the information to me and I will bring the "master CD" up to date. When all of you have gone through this process it will be a simple matter to burn another set of CD's and mail out the revisions. CDs cost about a nickel so this is not a federal case. And..also, don't forget that many of you will have full and complete records of a number of documents that well may not even be included here. Obviously, those are very important to the group..sent to me they will be included on the master CD. Be waiting to hear from you. Best, Maynard

    07/06/2005 01:44:34
    1. RE: Francis' Arrival in America
    2. John M. Poythress
    3. Deloris, I probably should have qualified that bit of whimsy as just that: a bit of whimsy. I think the chances are almost zero of Francis Poythress having come to America in a "convoy" in 1617 accompanied in one of the other ships by Thomas Rolfe. But that was the implication of the ancient email to which I was responding. I also think the chances of your finding anything on Francis in the Canterbury region would have been pretty close to zero. Everything we know about this man and the multiple spelling variants of those left behind in England just screams "west country".......Glos, Herefordshire, and just as a guess a little piece of east Wales. I am also very skeptical of all the websites that place Francis in or from London...the very "internal" evidence of these sites says they stand a good chance of being "universal" copies since they all seem to read the same, something to the effect of: Francis was born in London in 1688, son of Joshua and Peachy_______"....and not a whit of additional information is added. I would speculate that the scenario here is that the millions of Pocahontas chasers simply see those two or three "facts" and simply list them as a matter of filling in the blanks. When I first saw these I began to cordially query the posters if they would be so kind as to share "sources." Most stated they had simply copied a line they "found on the internet"....others went so far as to claim such and such gedcom from somebody unknown as a "validation." After a dozen or so instances and I gave up that folly...but would still welcome for their claim a validation of almost any kind I will post a msg to the group today about a database CD. Best, Maynard -----Original Message----- From: Deloris Riley [mailto:delorisriley@satx.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 11:23 AM To: POYTHRESS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: Francis' Arrival in America John, I am watching your Poythress searches with great interest because of Robert Wynne's marriage to Mary Poythress. Does anyone have the actual record of Mary Sloman marrying Francis Poythress in St. Dunstan's Cathedral? I have seen this theory posted on the Web Site. I did find record of Robert Wynne's christening in 1622 in St. Dunstan's in the Canterbury Cathedral Archives while visiting Canterbury. I did search there and in the Canterbury Public Library for all Wynne and Sloman records in the area but must admit I did not search under "Poythress". I will be happy to help in any way I can in assisting you in building your database for Virginia as I am interested in all of the very early Virginia settlers. As I have said many times before, I have three shelves about 12 feet long filled with four inch notebooks containing a vast amount of Wynne info. I used to have visions of publishing it but to be realistic, I am getting to the age where I will probably never reach that goal. Somewhere I have record of Robert Wynne having two people by the name of "Sloman" connected to his head right. I, personally, do not know exactly when Robert Wynne came to Virginia but have estimated it to be around 1647 when the Royalist Rebellion broke out in full force in Kent County. Keep up your good work! Deloris Wynne-Riley. P.S. Remember, it is said Abraham Wood came to America as a very young boy (was it around eight years old ?) so could Francis Poythress have also been a young boy when he came? A Thomas Wynne and a Peter Wynne were also members of the Virginia Company. I believe they both came to America--Thomas Wynne died at sea at some point in time and Peter Wynne died during the starving time in Virginia--I believe it was 1609 (?)--will need to verify by my records. I believe this Capt. Peter Wynne to be the brother of Mayor of Canterbury Robert Wynne. (Mayor) Robert Wynne also sent a load of oatmeale over under the auspices of the Virginia Company. -----Original Message----- From: John M. Poythress [mailto:brerfox@bellsouth.net] Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 2:14 PM To: POYTHRESS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Francis' Arrival in America I am scouring the archives for documents to continue to build on a "complete" (or as complete as I can make it) database for Virginia. Anyone have an opinion on whether or not one should draw an inference from the below that Francis Poythres arrived VA 1617? Remember that at least "a" Francis Poythres was baptised 1609 so if "Francis" did arrive 1617 then he was only 8 years of age, hardly qualifying as a factor. And if the 3 ships came as a "fleet" then Francis was accompanied by his future son-in-law. I'm understandably leary of this one. Maynard From: "Albert R. Tims" < atims@minn.net> Subject: By GEORGE, I think we've got something here Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 17:13:52 -0500 Poythress List, You "ancient" listers will recall that I've speculated from time to time about a possible connection between Francis Poythress and the London Company. You'll also recall that I've been interested in the ships named in the following account: ...Lawrence Evans, merchant, sent to Virginia in the previous year goods for a value of =A32,000 in three ships, the Rebecca, master - Richard Buckham, the George, master -- Robert Page, and the Hopewell, master -- William Smith. One factor died during the journey, his other factor Francis Poetres returned a bill of only =A3150. C. M. Andres, F. G. Davenport, Guide to the Manuscript Materials for the history of the United States to 1783, in the British Museum, in Minor London Archives and in the libraries of Oxford and Cambridge (Washington, D.C., 1908) pp. 170-177. p. 220 I don't know why it has taken me so long to make this connection, but it turns out that the ship the London Company had arranged for John Rolfe, Lady Rebecca (Pocahontas) and young Thomas Rolfe to use for their return to Virginia in March of 1617 was the above named George. This is as close as I believe we've come to developing a basis for establishing a link between the London Company and Francis Poythress. Best, Al Tims ==== POYTHRESS Mailing List ==== Poythress Genealogy Research Web www.poythress.net ==== POYTHRESS Mailing List ==== Visit www.poythress.net o learn more about Rootsweb please visit http://www.rootsweb.com/

    07/06/2005 06:21:58
    1. Re: Francis' Arrival in America
    2. Barbara P. Neal
    3. Maynard, I went back to the List Archives to look at the original message to see if Al Tims actually cited the *date* of the account he quoted in that 14 Jul 1997 message. In that message, Al did not put a date for the account at all. He only noted that the *ship* ("the George") was the same ship: For clarity, (after finding the actual quotation from the document he referenced, below copied), one could re-state Al's point, saying that "the ship used by John Rolfe, Lady Rebecca (Pocahontas) and young Thomas Rolfe for their return to Virginia in March of 1617 was the same ship used 20 years later by Lawrence Evans, merchant, one of whose factors was Francis Poetres. Where I found the date was on our Poythress website (www.poythress.net - under the section "Virginia Origins: The 17th Century Record." There Al included the *date* of the citation -- 19 Sep 1637 -- along with the full quote: From: C. M. Andres, F. G. Davenport, Guide to the Manuscript Materials for the history of the United States to 1783, in the British Museum, in Minor London Archives and in the libraries of Oxford and Cambridge (Washington, D.C., 1908) pp. 170-177. p. 220 Quote: A letter to the Governor and Council of Virginia, 19 September 1637. Lawrence Evans, merchant, sent to Virginia in the previous year goods for a value of £2,000 in three ships, the Rebecca, master - Richard Buckham, the George, master -- Robert Page, and the Hopewell, master -- William Smith. One factor died during the journey, his other factor Francis Poetres returned a bill of only £150. The rest of the goods were carried away by the three masters and their crew. Order to try and trace the goods belonging to Evans.

    07/06/2005 05:56:57
    1. RE: Francis' Arrival in America
    2. Deloris Riley
    3. John, I am watching your Poythress searches with great interest because of Robert Wynne's marriage to Mary Poythress. Does anyone have the actual record of Mary Sloman marrying Francis Poythress in St. Dunstan's Cathedral? I have seen this theory posted on the Web Site. I did find record of Robert Wynne's christening in 1622 in St. Dunstan's in the Canterbury Cathedral Archives while visiting Canterbury. I did search there and in the Canterbury Public Library for all Wynne and Sloman records in the area but must admit I did not search under "Poythress". I will be happy to help in any way I can in assisting you in building your database for Virginia as I am interested in all of the very early Virginia settlers. As I have said many times before, I have three shelves about 12 feet long filled with four inch notebooks containing a vast amount of Wynne info. I used to have visions of publishing it but to be realistic, I am getting to the age where I will probably never reach that goal. Somewhere I have record of Robert Wynne having two people by the name of "Sloman" connected to his head right. I, personally, do not know exactly when Robert Wynne came to Virginia but have estimated it to be around 1647 when the Royalist Rebellion broke out in full force in Kent County. Keep up your good work! Deloris Wynne-Riley. P.S. Remember, it is said Abraham Wood came to America as a very young boy (was it around eight years old ?) so could Francis Poythress have also been a young boy when he came? A Thomas Wynne and a Peter Wynne were also members of the Virginia Company. I believe they both came to America--Thomas Wynne died at sea at some point in time and Peter Wynne died during the starving time in Virginia--I believe it was 1609 (?)--will need to verify by my records. I believe this Capt. Peter Wynne to be the brother of Mayor of Canterbury Robert Wynne. (Mayor) Robert Wynne also sent a load of oatmeale over under the auspices of the Virginia Company. -----Original Message----- From: John M. Poythress [mailto:brerfox@bellsouth.net] Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 2:14 PM To: POYTHRESS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Francis' Arrival in America I am scouring the archives for documents to continue to build on a "complete" (or as complete as I can make it) database for Virginia. Anyone have an opinion on whether or not one should draw an inference from the below that Francis Poythres arrived VA 1617? Remember that at least "a" Francis Poythres was baptised 1609 so if "Francis" did arrive 1617 then he was only 8 years of age, hardly qualifying as a factor. And if the 3 ships came as a "fleet" then Francis was accompanied by his future son-in-law. I'm understandably leary of this one. Maynard From: "Albert R. Tims" < atims@minn.net> Subject: By GEORGE, I think we've got something here Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 17:13:52 -0500 Poythress List, You "ancient" listers will recall that I've speculated from time to time about a possible connection between Francis Poythress and the London Company. You'll also recall that I've been interested in the ships named in the following account: ...Lawrence Evans, merchant, sent to Virginia in the previous year goods for a value of =A32,000 in three ships, the Rebecca, master - Richard Buckham, the George, master -- Robert Page, and the Hopewell, master -- William Smith. One factor died during the journey, his other factor Francis Poetres returned a bill of only =A3150. C. M. Andres, F. G. Davenport, Guide to the Manuscript Materials for the history of the United States to 1783, in the British Museum, in Minor London Archives and in the libraries of Oxford and Cambridge (Washington, D.C., 1908) pp. 170-177. p. 220 I don't know why it has taken me so long to make this connection, but it turns out that the ship the London Company had arranged for John Rolfe, Lady Rebecca (Pocahontas) and young Thomas Rolfe to use for their return to Virginia in March of 1617 was the above named George. This is as close as I believe we've come to developing a basis for establishing a link between the London Company and Francis Poythress. Best, Al Tims ==== POYTHRESS Mailing List ==== Poythress Genealogy Research Web www.poythress.net

    07/06/2005 04:23:20
    1. Re: Francis' Arrival in America
    2. DIXYLUVR
    3. Maynard, Who are you referring to as "future son-in-law" below, that accompanied Francis? "And if the 3 ships came as a "fleet" then Francis was accompanied by his future son-in-law." Teresa ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com

    07/04/2005 11:15:58
    1. Francis' Arrival in America
    2. John M. Poythress
    3. I am scouring the archives for documents to continue to build on a "complete" (or as complete as I can make it) database for Virginia. Anyone have an opinion on whether or not one should draw an inference from the below that Francis Poythres arrived VA 1617? Remember that at least "a" Francis Poythres was baptised 1609 so if "Francis" did arrive 1617 then he was only 8 years of age, hardly qualifying as a factor. And if the 3 ships came as a "fleet" then Francis was accompanied by his future son-in-law. I'm understandably leary of this one. Maynard From: "Albert R. Tims" < atims@minn.net> Subject: By GEORGE, I think we've got something here Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 17:13:52 -0500 Poythress List, You "ancient" listers will recall that I've speculated from time to time about a possible connection between Francis Poythress and the London Company. You'll also recall that I've been interested in the ships named in the following account: ...Lawrence Evans, merchant, sent to Virginia in the previous year goods for a value of =A32,000 in three ships, the Rebecca, master - Richard Buckham, the George, master -- Robert Page, and the Hopewell, master -- William Smith. One factor died during the journey, his other factor Francis Poetres returned a bill of only =A3150. C. M. Andres, F. G. Davenport, Guide to the Manuscript Materials for the history of the United States to 1783, in the British Museum, in Minor London Archives and in the libraries of Oxford and Cambridge (Washington, D.C., 1908) pp. 170-177. p. 220 I don't know why it has taken me so long to make this connection, but it turns out that the ship the London Company had arranged for John Rolfe, Lady Rebecca (Pocahontas) and young Thomas Rolfe to use for their return to Virginia in March of 1617 was the above named George. This is as close as I believe we've come to developing a basis for establishing a link between the London Company and Francis Poythress. Best, Al Tims

    07/04/2005 09:14:14
    1. Re: Wm P Poythress Druggist - NOT in the Foxhall Poythress line
    2. Pat
    3. RE mentioned below: Patrick Henry Poythress was son of William Poythress & Mary Gilliam. Does anyone have information on Mary Gilliam's parents or male siblings? Is there any information to indicate a female Gilliam married a male Wilson between ~1730-~1800. Reason, in another line I have there is a William Gilliam Wilson who I cannot find the parents for. William was born 2-4-1790 Warren Co, NC Died Nov 1857 (Sale Warren Co WB 45-150). Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara P. Neal" <bp_neal@earthlink.net> To: <POYTHRESS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 7:51 PM Subject: Wm P Poythress Druggist - NOT in the Foxhall Poythress line > For clarification on future hunts thru our List-Archives (thanks, Lyn, for > reminding me about that): > > The info from R. Bolling Batte's cards shows us that the William P. > Poythress (middle name Powhatan) who owned Poythress Drug Company in > Richmond, VA, was born about 1847, son of William Peterson Poythress & > Charlotte Reed; William Peterson Poythress was son of Patrick Henry > Poythress (b.about 1780; died 1822) & Mary Elizabeth Eppes; Patrick Henry > Poythress was son of William Poythress & Mary Gilliam. > > Thus the druggist was NOT directly in the same line with Foxhall Alexander > Poythress (b.Jan 1887; d.Aug 1932), who was the son of William Lewis > Poythress (b.about 1843-44; d.about Jan 1915) & Ella Anna Jane Jones; > William Lewis Poythress was the son of Thomas M. Poythress (b.about > 1820-23; d.Jul 1891) & Lucy I. Thomas; Thomas M. Poythress was son of > Lewis Poythress. > > So, the Richmond druggist could well be related to Foxhall & to all the > rest of us Poythress folks, but at this point we don't know the > connection. > > The Batte cards are accessible at the Library of Virginia website, at: > http://www.lva.lib.va.us/whatwehave/bio/BA.html > > and Diana Diamond's wonderful work organizing info from many of Mr. > Batte's cards can be found at: > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=va_families > > > ==== POYTHRESS Mailing List ==== > Poythress Genealogy Research Web > www.poythress.net >

    07/02/2005 10:36:40
    1. VA Vital Records
    2. John M. Poythress
    3. Below is off the Brunswick wire for those of us looking for Virginians who might have a vital records listing: Message Board Post: Hi, I have recently started a website where people can donated the vital records they have so others can view, download and print them for FREE. There are records avalible for this surname/location if anyone would like to view them or if anyone has any documents to submits for others. The more people who donate what they have, the better the odds are of finding a record you need for FREE. Thank you - Krystal Wilson - Vital Tree http://clik.to/vitaltree

    07/02/2005 09:10:00