Vista is a pain but I don't think we can turn the clock back. Maybe Windows will go broke because of it. ----- Original Message ----- From: <powys-request@rootsweb.com> To: <powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 5:55 PM Subject: POWYS Digest, Vol 2, Issue 268 > > > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to > which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. > Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides > with the message subject to which you are replying. > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: The Cambrian 18 Feb 1809 - the poor. (Hilary or Owen Williams) > 2. Jones and Price families in Disserth RAD (Dr Shirley Vinall) > 3. Pictures of: Buildings, Merthyr Tydfil (GLA); and St > George's Church, Tredegar (MON) (John Ball) > 4. Re: Selina Beaven Breconshire (Nancy Strickland) > 5. Re: Selina Beaven Breconshire (Nancy Strickland) > 6. Re: Selina Beaven Breconshire (Nancy Strickland) > 7. Re: Selina Beaven Breconshire (Nancy Strickland) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:54:03 +0100 > From: "Hilary or Owen Williams" <williams.o.h@ic24.net> > Subject: Re: [POWYS] The Cambrian 18 Feb 1809 - the poor. > To: <powys@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <E1IYfCN-000COM-Ij@smtp2.global.net.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" > > HI Lyn, > > I hope you don't mind me copying a part of your Cambrian Notices from > Glamorgan l onto this site as the 2 notices shown below are of relevance > to > Powys. > > "The Cambrian 18 Feb 1809 > > At Brecon, aged 78, Hugh BOLD, Esq. > > At Tyn-y-cwn, Samuel BEAVAN, Esq. upwards of 60 years a Magistrate for the > county of Radnor." > > Hugh Bold was a descendent of the Winter/Wynter family of Brecon, members > of > which held high office under the Duke of Buckingham and under the Monarchs > following the union of Wales with England. > Anyone interested in the Winter/Wynter family of England & Wales > (including > BRE) see the web book "The Golden Falcon" @ > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pillagoda/index.htm > > I am also descended form the BRE Winter/Wynter family, so would also be > interested in any new contacts. > > Kind regards, > > Hilary > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: powys-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powys-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Lyn Nunn > Sent: 20 September 2007 22:17 > To: powys@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [POWYS] The Cambrian 18 Feb 1809 - the poor. > > Thanks Hilary, it was interesting. My BEAVEN family oral tradition claims > links to the Morgan's of Tredegar but I think they are confused. That is > the > most detail I have been able to find on the web I think so far. > Regards > > Lyn > > -----Original Message----- > From: powys-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powys-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Hilary or Owen Williams > Sent: Friday, 21 September 2007 3:03 AM > To: powys@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [POWYS] The Cambrian 18 Feb 1809 - the poor. > > Hi Lyn, > > You and others might be interested in the Biographical details of the > Morgan > Family of Tredegar at http://yba.llgc.org.uk/en/s-MORG-TRE-1384.html > > Kind regards, > > Hilary > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.25/1018 - Release Date: > 19/09/2007 > 15:59 > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.27/1020 - Release Date: > 20/09/2007 > 12:07 > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: 21 Sep 2007 15:45:43 +0100 > From: Dr Shirley Vinall <s.w.vinall@reading.ac.uk> > Subject: [POWYS] Jones and Price families in Disserth RAD > To: Powys@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <Prayer.1.0.18.0709211545430.14514@vimb4.rdg.ac.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Dear list, > > I should be interested in contacting others researching these two families > from Disserth (Radnorshire). > > Ebenezer Jones (c. 1794-1849) a weaver, living at Llyn (or Llwyn?), > Disserth in 1841; wife Ann (nee Evans), born Disserth c. 1794; children > including Edward (1820-21), Mary (born c. 1820), Martha (born and died > 1822), Martha (born c. 1823), Ann (born c. 1826), Edward (born c. 1829), > Ebenezer (born c. 1833), Phoebe (born c. 1834). > > Evan Price (born Llanyre c. 1789), farmer of Red House, Trecoed, Disserth > in 1841 and 1851; wife Anne (born Llanyre c. 1800); children including > Anne > (born c. 1822), Jane (c. 1828), Evan (born c. 1828 or 1831), Alice (born > c. > 1830), Henry (born c. 1834), Eliza (born c. 1840), Penry (born c. 1842). I > believe some later generations of this family had connections with Builth > quarries, but as yet have no proof of this. > > Edward Jones (son of Ebenezer) and Jane/Janet Price (daughter of Evan), my > great-great-grandparents, were married at St Mary's, Builth, in 1853, and > had two children, Mary Jane (born 1854) and Henry Edward (born 1856). The > family lived in Cwmbach and Brecon, and later, after Edward's death and, > seemingly, after a second marriage of Jane to an as yet unknown Price, > were > based in Builth for many years. > > All information very gratefully received. > Many thanks > Shirley > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:45:37 +0100 (BST) > From: "John Ball" <john@jlb2005.plus.com> > Subject: [POWYS] Pictures of: Buildings, Merthyr Tydfil (GLA); > and St George's Church, Tredegar (MON) > To: powys@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <5928.81.178.248.94.1190400337.squirrel@webmail.plus.net> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 > > Pictures of: Buildings, Merthyr Tydfil (GLA); and St George's Church, > Tredegar (MON) > > > Dear Listers, > > Next week's 'Retrospective Images of Wales' webpages, uploaded two days > early onto my website, include: > > 1. A selection of buildings in the centre of Merthyr Tydfil, county of > Glamorgan (seven pictures). This feature was first shown on 'Images of > Wales' in June 1998. > > 2. The parish church of St George's, Tredegar, in the county of > Monmouthshire (four pictures). This feature was first shown on 'Images of > Wales' in September 1998. > > As usual, these webpages will be on display for about one week. > > 'Retrospective Images of Wales' is at > www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/retro/retro.htm > > While there, take the time to explore my 'Webpage Archive' and make your > own Retrospective requests. > > Kind regards, > > John > -------------------- > John Ball, Godre'r Graig, near Swansea, Wales, UK > E-mail: john@jlb2005.plus.com > John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/ > Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/ > Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/ > > GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ > Joint Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) mailing lists > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 12:49:06 -0700 > From: "Nancy Strickland" <nts@sti.net> > Subject: Re: [POWYS] Selina Beaven Breconshire > To: <powys@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <046a01c7fc88$78878e50$0600000a@Nancy1> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Thank you for the additional info on the blind Elizabath Probert. I had > her > in one census and now I have more data on her. I am busy trying to put the > database online and the designer is in the last stages, I hope. Thanks > again. Nancy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <MJen512444@aol.com> > To: <powys@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 3:00 AM > Subject: Re: [POWYS] Selina Beaven Breconshire > > >> Hello Diana, >> >> The best way for you to find out about Skkynlas I suppose, is to look at >> the >> National Library of Wales website, and type in Skynlas. >> >> For now though. I can tell you it is Glasebury. Now there are two >> parts >> to >> Glasebury. Half in Breconshire and half in Radnorshire. So, borderline >> in >> any case. >> >> Llandeilo Graban is in Radnorshire, but close to the border with >> Breconshire. Llandewi Cwm is just over the border into Breconshire, and >> one of my >> family moved to a farm there in 1891. >> >> The next parish from Llandeilo Graban is Llanbedr Painscastle, which is >> not >> far from Hay on Wye. >> >> The Skynlas connection goes back to the early 1800s and even into the >> 1700s. >> >> There is an elizabeth Probert, blind from birth according to the census >> information, and she seems to have been shunted from one of the family to >> the >> next in each census year. But, she was connected to the Smith side of my >> family >> from Llanbedr Painscastle. And it was the Smith line that married into >> the >> Baptist cause. >> >> Elizabeth Probert was a daughter of Revd. Evan Probert. I believe he >> died >> in Bristol. I was told that, I have not found him. A cousin in Florida >> and I >> took a great interest in poor Elizabeth Probert. >> >> If you think I am being too vague, then I am sorry. But, I have been >> doing >> family history research for 26 years, so have gathered all sorts of >> information from all over the country in that time. Not through the >> internet either. >> Ground work mostly. So, you see, I have hundreds of names and places >> floating around in my head. Some of the details buried just below the >> surface. >> >> If I find anything more specifice for you,I shall be sure and let you >> know. >> Don't worry. >> >> At present though, I am very tied up helping someone from Llanelli with >> their tree, so my head is full of that at the moment. >> >> Good to hear from you though. >> thanks, >> >> Maureen >> >> >> >> >> >> =================== >> Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: >> www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:37:10 -0700 > From: "Nancy Strickland" <nts@sti.net> > Subject: Re: [POWYS] Selina Beaven Breconshire > To: <powys@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <04e101c7fc97$91313190$0600000a@Nancy1> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Maureen, You probably have these records but just in case there is > another clue: > New-probertcd3 Query2 First Name Last Name Age Event Mo/Da Year > Parish/Town Location Parents Spouse Occupation Comments First Name of > Submitters Last Name of Submitters > elizabeth probert 40 census 00-00 1871 > llanbachhowey,llanbedr,painscastle radnor lived with james smith-wife,eliz > price > blind from birth Mareen Jenkins, researcher's records of Powys(Mar.2, > 2001) Mareen Jenkins > elizabeth probert 30 census 00-00 1861 bettws disserth,builth brecon > niece of ? unmarried blind - lf36l-p1 Powys, Wales Census of 1861 > > > elizabeth probert 30 census 00-00 1861 gwyn-fach powys niece > unmarried > blind Powys Family History Society, 1861 Census for Radnor > > > elizabeth probert 30 census 00-00 1861 gwyn-fach,bettws,disserth > radnor niece of sarah price-b1801 unmarried blind/g-moth head of house > 1861 > Census, Radnor, Powys, Family History Society > > > elizabeth probert 22 census 00-00 1851 yirnsbach,(llandrindod?) > radnor > niece of william price-b1798 unmarried niece of farmer/minister's > daughter/blind Recyclegen.com - records > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <MJen512444@aol.com> > To: <powys@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 3:00 AM > Subject: Re: [POWYS] Selina Beaven Breconshire > > >> Hello Diana, >> >> The best way for you to find out about Skkynlas I suppose, is to look at >> the >> National Library of Wales website, and type in Skynlas. >> >> For now though. I can tell you it is Glasebury. Now there are two >> parts >> to >> Glasebury. Half in Breconshire and half in Radnorshire. So, borderline >> in >> any case. >> >> Llandeilo Graban is in Radnorshire, but close to the border with >> Breconshire. Llandewi Cwm is just over the border into Breconshire, and >> one of my >> family moved to a farm there in 1891. >> >> The next parish from Llandeilo Graban is Llanbedr Painscastle, which is >> not >> far from Hay on Wye. >> >> The Skynlas connection goes back to the early 1800s and even into the >> 1700s. >> >> There is an elizabeth Probert, blind from birth according to the census >> information, and she seems to have been shunted from one of the family to >> the >> next in each census year. But, she was connected to the Smith side of my >> family >> from Llanbedr Painscastle. And it was the Smith line that married into >> the >> Baptist cause. >> >> Elizabeth Probert was a daughter of Revd. Evan Probert. I believe he >> died >> in Bristol. I was told that, I have not found him. A cousin in Florida >> and I >> took a great interest in poor Elizabeth Probert. >> >> If you think I am being too vague, then I am sorry. But, I have been >> doing >> family history research for 26 years, so have gathered all sorts of >> information from all over the country in that time. Not through the >> internet either. >> Ground work mostly. So, you see, I have hundreds of names and places >> floating around in my head. Some of the details buried just below the >> surface. >> >> If I find anything more specifice for you,I shall be sure and let you >> know. >> Don't worry. >> >> At present though, I am very tied up helping someone from Llanelli with >> their tree, so my head is full of that at the moment. >> >> Good to hear from you though. >> thanks, >> >> Maureen >> >> >> >> >> >> =================== >> Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: >> www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:42:00 -0700 > From: "Nancy Strickland" <nts@sti.net> > Subject: Re: [POWYS] Selina Beaven Breconshire > To: <powys@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <04e401c7fc98$3df16fd0$0600000a@Nancy1> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I just realized that one of the places Elizabeth is with a PROBERT is > Llandrindod and my family is from there. I am sending other things I have > found. > New-probertcd3 Query2 First Name Last Name Age Event Mo/Da Year > Parish/Town Location Parents Spouse Occupation Comments First Name of > Submitters Last Name of Submitters > elizabeth probert 22 census 00-00 1851 yirnsbach,(llandrindod?) > radnor > niece of william price-b1798 unmarried niece of farmer/minister's > daughter/blind Recyclegen.com - records > > > elizabeth probert > birth 00-00 1829 yirnsbach,(llandrindod?) radnor niece of william > price-b1798 unmarried neice of farmer/minister's daughter/blind > Recyclegen.com - records > > > > > > New-probertcd3 Query2 First Name Last Name Age Event Mo/Da Year > Parish/Town Location Parents Spouse Occupation Comments First Name of > Submitters Last Name of Submitters > elizabeth probert 40 census 00-00 1871 llanbach howey,llanbedr > painscastle radnor (prob relative to william-b1851) > visitor to james smith-b1806 RootsWeb.com - Mailing List Archives > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <MJen512444@aol.com> > To: <powys@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 3:00 AM > Subject: Re: [POWYS] Selina Beaven Breconshire > > >> Hello Diana, >> >> The best way for you to find out about Skkynlas I suppose, is to look at >> the >> National Library of Wales website, and type in Skynlas. >> >> For now though. I can tell you it is Glasebury. Now there are two >> parts >> to >> Glasebury. Half in Breconshire and half in Radnorshire. So, borderline >> in >> any case. >> >> Llandeilo Graban is in Radnorshire, but close to the border with >> Breconshire. Llandewi Cwm is just over the border into Breconshire, and >> one of my >> family moved to a farm there in 1891. >> >> The next parish from Llandeilo Graban is Llanbedr Painscastle, which is >> not >> far from Hay on Wye. >> >> The Skynlas connection goes back to the early 1800s and even into the >> 1700s. >> >> There is an elizabeth Probert, blind from birth according to the census >> information, and she seems to have been shunted from one of the family to >> the >> next in each census year. But, she was connected to the Smith side of my >> family >> from Llanbedr Painscastle. And it was the Smith line that married into >> the >> Baptist cause. >> >> Elizabeth Probert was a daughter of Revd. Evan Probert. I believe he >> died >> in Bristol. I was told that, I have not found him. A cousin in Florida >> and I >> took a great interest in poor Elizabeth Probert. >> >> If you think I am being too vague, then I am sorry. But, I have been >> doing >> family history research for 26 years, so have gathered all sorts of >> information from all over the country in that time. Not through the >> internet either. >> Ground work mostly. So, you see, I have hundreds of names and places >> floating around in my head. Some of the details buried just below the >> surface. >> >> If I find anything more specifice for you,I shall be sure and let you >> know. >> Don't worry. >> >> At present though, I am very tied up helping someone from Llanelli with >> their tree, so my head is full of that at the moment. >> >> Good to hear from you though. >> thanks, >> >> Maureen >> >> >> >> >> >> =================== >> Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: >> www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:44:09 -0700 > From: "Nancy Strickland" <nts@sti.net> > Subject: Re: [POWYS] Selina Beaven Breconshire > To: <powys@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <04e701c7fc98$8b09c3d0$0600000a@Nancy1> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > New-probertcd3 Query2 First Name Last Name Age Event Mo/Da Year > Parish/Town Location Parents Spouse Occupation Comments First Name of > Submitters Last Name of Submitters > elizabeth probert 22 census 00-00 1851 yirnsbach,(llandrindod?) > radnor > niece of william price-b1798 unmarried niece of farmer/minister's > daughter/blind Recyclegen.com - records > > > elizabeth probert > birth 00-00 1829 yirnsbach,(llandrindod?) radnor niece of william > price-b1798 unmarried neice of farmer/minister's daughter/blind > Recyclegen.com - records > > > elizabeth probert > birth 01-08 1840 newbridge,newbridge on wye,llandrindod radnor > william-ann price > father a shoemaker Llandrindod Wells Births, R.J.Meredith researcher > R.J. Meredith > elizabeth probert > birth 09-30 1856 brook, llanyre,llandrindod radnor ebenezer-mary bowen > father a shoemaker Llandrindod Wells Births, R.J.Meredith researcher > R.J. Meredith > elizabeth probert > birth 08-09 1875 glangwy,llanyre,llandrindod radnor edward-jane jones > father an ag labourer Llandrindod Wells Births, R.J.Meredith > researcher > R.J. Meredith > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <MJen512444@aol.com> > To: <powys@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 3:00 AM > Subject: Re: [POWYS] Selina Beaven Breconshire > > >> Hello Diana, >> >> The best way for you to find out about Skkynlas I suppose, is to look at >> the >> National Library of Wales website, and type in Skynlas. >> >> For now though. I can tell you it is Glasebury. Now there are two >> parts >> to >> Glasebury. Half in Breconshire and half in Radnorshire. So, borderline >> in >> any case. >> >> Llandeilo Graban is in Radnorshire, but close to the border with >> Breconshire. Llandewi Cwm is just over the border into Breconshire, and >> one of my >> family moved to a farm there in 1891. >> >> The next parish from Llandeilo Graban is Llanbedr Painscastle, which is >> not >> far from Hay on Wye. >> >> The Skynlas connection goes back to the early 1800s and even into the >> 1700s. >> >> There is an elizabeth Probert, blind from birth according to the census >> information, and she seems to have been shunted from one of the family to >> the >> next in each census year. But, she was connected to the Smith side of my >> family >> from Llanbedr Painscastle. And it was the Smith line that married into >> the >> Baptist cause. >> >> Elizabeth Probert was a daughter of Revd. Evan Probert. I believe he >> died >> in Bristol. I was told that, I have not found him. A cousin in Florida >> and I >> took a great interest in poor Elizabeth Probert. >> >> If you think I am being too vague, then I am sorry. But, I have been >> doing >> family history research for 26 years, so have gathered all sorts of >> information from all over the country in that time. Not through the >> internet either. >> Ground work mostly. So, you see, I have hundreds of names and places >> floating around in my head. Some of the details buried just below the >> surface. >> >> If I find anything more specifice for you,I shall be sure and let you >> know. >> Don't worry. >> >> At present though, I am very tied up helping someone from Llanelli with >> their tree, so my head is full of that at the moment. >> >> Good to hear from you though. >> thanks, >> >> Maureen >> >> >> >> >> >> =================== >> Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: >> www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the POWYS list administrator, send an email to > POWYS-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the POWYS mailing list, send an email to > POWYS@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of POWYS Digest, Vol 2, Issue 268 > ************************************* >