Hi Hillary, As I said in my original post, I do already know about the St Alberico's and how they arrived in Breconshire. That's why I chose to post this enquiry to the Powys/BRE group. Else wise, no pubic lecture was required, I am well aware of convention. It's just the wrong JPG image. It happens once in a while when I'm updating the site, though I always appreciate receiving private email to alert me when I make a site-update mistake like that. Thx, Richard -----Original Message----- From: powys-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powys-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Hilary or Owen Williams Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 2:14 AM To: powys@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [POWYS] BRE : Owen and Lewis Williams,- Aubrey/Breconshire connection? Hi Richard, Here is a comment made in good faith and not wishing to offend you. I viewed your Tree on your web site and was sorry to see that you have not observed the 100 year rule, which means that, for the sake of the privacy of living relatives, you do not post personal details (some of which can be distressing to the people concerned) of living relatives on a publicly viewed Tree. If you think about it, would you want every "Tom, Dick or Harry" to read such things as "believed wards of state" (on your Tree) or even your birth, or marriage dates. There could be a good reason why you did not want off- spring to know the real date of your marriage, for instance. Normal convention has it that on Publicly viewed Trees, living relatives are itemised with words such as "Living Male" or "Living Female" By the way, the surname "Aubrey" is linked to Breconshire because it is an Anglo Norman Family which settled in BRE. Put "Aubrey Breconshire" into Google and lots of historical hits come up. Best wishes, Hilary Williams -----Original Message----- From: powys-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powys-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Richard Williams Sent: 07 September 2007 23:31 To: POWYS@rootsweb.com Subject: [POWYS] BRE : Owen and Lewis Williams,- Aubrey/Breconshire connection? Hello All, My grt-grt-grt-grandfather, Owen Williams, started naming ALL his children with the middle name of "Aubrey" in 1853. This is odd, because he'd had four children prior to this, none of whom had borne the 'Aubrey' moniker, three of whom were non-surviving males. Three of those children were by the same wife as the children who _did_ subsequently get the 'Aubrey' name. Indeed, this 'obsession' (and a tale to go with it) has survived down to my own generation. You can see the tree here: http://www.sonic.net/~raw/williams_tree.html Because the Aubrey name mostly comes from Breconshire (because of the St Alberico settlement after 1066) I am wondering if anyone in this group also has this phenomena in their family tree? Is there a helpfully mundane explanation for why it didn't appear until 1853? Is there a connection between my tree and someone else's in the group? Anything that seems relevant would be appreciated. Thx, Richard Williams =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.9/994 - Release Date: 07/09/2007 16:40 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.9/994 - Release Date: 07/09/2007 16:40 =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Pubic lectures eh! Bet you deal with organic matters. Heddwch Mike. Mike Llywelyn Cox micoxcox@btinternet.com http://www.ppeyes.org.uk http://micoxpplog.blogspot.com A http://www.solnetwork.org.uk member. On 8 Sep 2007, at 20:40, Richard Williams wrote: > Hi Hillary, > As I said in my original post, I do already know about the St > Alberico's and > how they arrived in Breconshire. That's why I chose to post this > enquiry to > the Powys/BRE group. > > Else wise, no pubic lecture was required, I am well aware of > convention. > It's just the wrong JPG image. It happens once in a while when I'm > updating > the site, though I always appreciate receiving private email to > alert me > when I make a site-update mistake like that. > > Thx, > Richard > > -----Original Message----- > From: powys-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powys-bounces@rootsweb.com]On > Behalf Of Hilary or Owen Williams > Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 2:14 AM > To: powys@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [POWYS] BRE : Owen and Lewis Williams,- Aubrey/ > Breconshire > connection? > > > Hi Richard, > > Here is a comment made in good faith and not wishing to offend you. > I viewed > your Tree on your web site and was sorry to see that you have not > observed > the 100 year rule, which means that, for the sake of the privacy of > living > relatives, you do not post personal details (some of which can be > distressing to the people concerned) of living relatives on a publicly > viewed Tree. > If you think about it, would you want every "Tom, Dick or Harry" to > read > such things as "believed wards of state" (on your Tree) or even > your birth, > or marriage dates. There could be a good reason why you did not > want off- > spring to know the real date of your marriage, for instance. > > Normal convention has it that on Publicly viewed Trees, living > relatives are > itemised with words such as "Living Male" or "Living Female" > > By the way, the surname "Aubrey" is linked to Breconshire because > it is an > Anglo Norman Family which settled in BRE. Put "Aubrey Breconshire" > into > Google and lots of historical hits come up. > > Best wishes, > > Hilary Williams > > -----Original Message----- > From: powys-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powys- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Richard Williams > Sent: 07 September 2007 23:31 > To: POWYS@rootsweb.com > Subject: [POWYS] BRE : Owen and Lewis Williams,- Aubrey/Breconshire > connection? > > Hello All, > My grt-grt-grt-grandfather, Owen Williams, started naming ALL his > children > with the middle name of "Aubrey" in 1853. This is odd, because he'd > had four > children prior to this, none of whom had borne the 'Aubrey' > moniker, three > of whom were non-surviving males. Three of those children were by > the same > wife as the children who _did_ subsequently get the 'Aubrey' name. > Indeed, > this 'obsession' (and a tale to go with it) has survived down to my > own > generation. > > You can see the tree here: > http://www.sonic.net/~raw/williams_tree.html > > Because the Aubrey name mostly comes from Breconshire (because of > the St > Alberico settlement after 1066) I am wondering if anyone in this > group also > has this phenomena in their family tree? Is there a helpfully mundane > explanation for why it didn't appear until 1853? Is there a connection > between my tree and someone else's in the group? > > Anything that seems relevant would be appreciated. > > Thx, > Richard Williams > > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/ > powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.9/994 - Release Date: > 07/09/2007 > 16:40 > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.9/994 - Release Date: > 07/09/2007 > 16:40 > > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/ > powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/ > powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message