I am not quite sure what this is about - if anyone can explain I'd appreciate it. I am thinking it is a kind of insurance? Bristol, June1, 1810 NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC The Balloting for the Old Militia for some of the Counties commenced this day (the 1st of June, 1810), and it is presumed will be general throughout the kingdom in all this month. MILTIA ALL the men of ENGLAND and WALES, subject to the approaching MILITIA BALLOT, are most respectfully informed that they have an opportunity of becoming MEMBERS of an INSTITUTION, established in BRISTOL called THE UNION MILITIA CLUB of England and Wales, in which persons of every description are admitted. TERMS VIZ., 1st. A Subscription of HALF-A-GUINEA will entitle each Person drawn to serve and Enrolled, or by Substitute, to a proportion of the Funds of this Club, not exceeding Twelve Pounds Ten Shillings. 2d. A Subscription of ONE GUINEA will entitle each Person so drawn to serve and Enrolled, or by Substitute, to a proportion of the Funds of this Club, not exceeding Twenty-five Pounds. 3d. A Subscription of TWO GUINEAS will entitle each Person so drawn to serve and Enrolled, or by Substitute, to a proportion of the Funds of this Club, not exceeding Fifty Pounds. AGENTS in all the principal towns in ENGLAND and WALES are appointed to receive Subscriptions for all the Counties in the Kingdom, for which they will give each member so entering a Memorandum of receiving such Subscriptions, which will be transmitted to the Head Office, the Assembly Coffee-house, on the Quay, Bristol, for numerical arrangement, when Certificates will be immediately forwarded by first conveyance, and for which One shilling is to be paid to the Secretary. A. ABBOTT Administratrix to (J.K. ABOOTT, Head Office, the Assembly Coffee-house on the Quay, Bristol) Secretary: WHO HAS APPOINTED Messrs. STUCKEY. LEAN, HART and MANINGFORD, Bankers, Bristol, Treasurers. N.B. The Directors of this Institution consider it necessary to observe that though they do not pledge themselves to pay the several Members of this establishment, who may be enrolled, the full sums of Twelve Pounds Ten Shillings, Twenty-five Pounds, and Fifty Pounds, but only a proportion of the funds of the said Club, but they feel great pleasure in stating that, from the general received opinion of the success already obtained (being convinced that numbers secure the undertaking), have induced them to extend the boundaries of this Institution contrary to the practice of former years, that by such augmentation they have no doubt but the full sums of Twelve Pounds Ten Shillings, Twenty-five Pounds, and Fifty Pounds will be paid to the enrolled, and also a considerable division of the Subscription returned to the so drawn subscribers. Lyn Nunn Brisbane Australia

Lyn, Sounds like a friendly society: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendly_Society Can't find any specific references to it, though. Dave Matthews Corlette, Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyn Nunn" <lnunn@bigpond.net.au> To: <GLAMORGAN-L@rootsweb.com>; <powys@rootsweb.com>; <MONMOUTHSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 9:23 PM Subject: [POWYS] Militia The Cambrian 16 June 1810 >I am not quite sure what this is about - if anyone can explain I'd > appreciate it. I am thinking it is a kind of insurance? > > > > Bristol, June1, 1810 > > NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC > > The Balloting for the Old Militia for some of the Counties commenced this > day (the 1st of June, 1810), and it is presumed will be general throughout > the kingdom in all this month. > > MILTIA > > ALL the men of ENGLAND and WALES, subject to the approaching MILITIA > BALLOT, > are most respectfully informed that they have an opportunity of becoming > MEMBERS of an INSTITUTION, established in BRISTOL called > > THE UNION MILITIA CLUB of England and Wales, in which persons of every > description are admitted. > > TERMS VIZ., > > 1st. A Subscription of HALF-A-GUINEA will entitle each Person drawn to > serve > and Enrolled, or by Substitute, to a proportion of the Funds of this Club, > not exceeding Twelve Pounds Ten Shillings. > > 2d. A Subscription of ONE GUINEA will entitle each Person so drawn to > serve > and Enrolled, or by Substitute, to a proportion of the Funds of this Club, > not exceeding Twenty-five Pounds. > > 3d. A Subscription of TWO GUINEAS will entitle each Person so drawn to > serve > and Enrolled, or by Substitute, to a proportion of the Funds of this Club, > not exceeding Fifty Pounds. > > AGENTS in all the principal towns in ENGLAND and WALES are appointed to > receive Subscriptions for all the Counties in the Kingdom, for which they > will give each member so entering a Memorandum of receiving such > Subscriptions, which will be transmitted to the Head Office, the Assembly > Coffee-house, on the Quay, Bristol, for numerical arrangement, when > Certificates will be immediately forwarded by first conveyance, and for > which One shilling is to be paid to the Secretary. > > A. ABBOTT Administratrix to (J.K. ABOOTT, Head Office, the Assembly > Coffee-house on the Quay, Bristol) Secretary: WHO HAS APPOINTED Messrs. > STUCKEY. LEAN, HART and MANINGFORD, Bankers, Bristol, Treasurers. > > N.B. The Directors of this Institution consider it necessary to observe > that > though they do not pledge themselves to pay the several Members of this > establishment, who may be enrolled, the full sums of Twelve Pounds Ten > Shillings, Twenty-five Pounds, and Fifty Pounds, but only a proportion of > the funds of the said Club, but they feel great pleasure in stating that, > from the general received opinion of the success already obtained (being > convinced that numbers secure the undertaking), have induced them to > extend > the boundaries of this Institution contrary to the practice of former > years, > that by such augmentation they have no doubt but the full sums of Twelve > Pounds Ten Shillings, Twenty-five Pounds, and Fifty Pounds will be paid to > the enrolled, and also a considerable division of the Subscription > returned > to the so drawn subscribers. > > > > Lyn Nunn > > Brisbane > > Australia > > > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Lyn I think it is rather more complicated than insurance. Militia lists were drawn up throughout the country for the enlistment of reservists in time of war - and article you referred to, was at the time of the Napoleonic Wars. I gather that it may be possible to avoid conscription into the military by substitution on payment of a fee - to one of a number of societies. I have googled this topic - and it seems that "Parish records include lists of men liable to serve in the militia compiled by parish constables prior to the ballot, lists of men balloted and their substitutes, and records of payment of relief to militia men and their families. Parish lists of men liable to serve in the militia (ten names or more): were for men between the ages of 18 and 50..." I suggest that the "Substitutes" would be those who could not afford to pay-off the "insurance" - and therefore their names would have appeared in the register for enlistment. Richard -----Original Message----- From: powys-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powys-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Lyn Nunn Sent: 24 September 2007 12:24 To: GLAMORGAN-L@rootsweb.com; powys@rootsweb.com; MONMOUTHSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [POWYS] Militia The Cambrian 16 June 1810 I am not quite sure what this is about - if anyone can explain I'd appreciate it. I am thinking it is a kind of insurance? Bristol, June1, 1810 NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC The Balloting for the Old Militia for some of the Counties commenced this day (the 1st of June, 1810), and it is presumed will be general throughout the kingdom in all this month. MILTIA ALL the men of ENGLAND and WALES, subject to the approaching MILITIA BALLOT, are most respectfully informed that they have an opportunity of becoming MEMBERS of an INSTITUTION, established in BRISTOL called THE UNION MILITIA CLUB of England and Wales, in which persons of every description are admitted. TERMS VIZ., 1st. A Subscription of HALF-A-GUINEA will entitle each Person drawn to serve and Enrolled, or by Substitute, to a proportion of the Funds of this Club, not exceeding Twelve Pounds Ten Shillings. 2d. A Subscription of ONE GUINEA will entitle each Person so drawn to serve and Enrolled, or by Substitute, to a proportion of the Funds of this Club, not exceeding Twenty-five Pounds. 3d. A Subscription of TWO GUINEAS will entitle each Person so drawn to serve and Enrolled, or by Substitute, to a proportion of the Funds of this Club, not exceeding Fifty Pounds. AGENTS in all the principal towns in ENGLAND and WALES are appointed to receive Subscriptions for all the Counties in the Kingdom, for which they will give each member so entering a Memorandum of receiving such Subscriptions, which will be transmitted to the Head Office, the Assembly Coffee-house, on the Quay, Bristol, for numerical arrangement, when Certificates will be immediately forwarded by first conveyance, and for which One shilling is to be paid to the Secretary. A. ABBOTT Administratrix to (J.K. ABOOTT, Head Office, the Assembly Coffee-house on the Quay, Bristol) Secretary: WHO HAS APPOINTED Messrs. STUCKEY. LEAN, HART and MANINGFORD, Bankers, Bristol, Treasurers. N.B. The Directors of this Institution consider it necessary to observe that though they do not pledge themselves to pay the several Members of this establishment, who may be enrolled, the full sums of Twelve Pounds Ten Shillings, Twenty-five Pounds, and Fifty Pounds, but only a proportion of the funds of the said Club, but they feel great pleasure in stating that, from the general received opinion of the success already obtained (being convinced that numbers secure the undertaking), have induced them to extend the boundaries of this Institution contrary to the practice of former years, that by such augmentation they have no doubt but the full sums of Twelve Pounds Ten Shillings, Twenty-five Pounds, and Fifty Pounds will be paid to the enrolled, and also a considerable division of the Subscription returned to the so drawn subscribers. Lyn Nunn Brisbane Australia =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Richard, Yes, I have some understanding of the system of ballots and substitutes etc. but this seems, as someone else suggested, more like a lottery. If you subscribe and then are drawn then you get paid funds from the pool of subscriptions. This would, I imagine, help to cover loss of income incurred while you served or the payment to a substitute to serve for the person drawn, especially if you couldn't afford to pay a substitute. I don't think you paid a society the fee for substitution - you paid it to the man who served in your place - he isn't likely going to do it otherwise. It doesn't say but I guess you have to subscribe before the ballot takes place. Regards Lyn -----Original Message----- From: powys-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powys-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of richard ellis Sent: Tuesday, 25 September 2007 7:41 AM To: powys@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [POWYS] Militia The Cambrian 16 June 1810 Dear Lyn I think it is rather more complicated than insurance. Militia lists were drawn up throughout the country for the enlistment of reservists in time of war - and article you referred to, was at the time of the Napoleonic Wars. I gather that it may be possible to avoid conscription into the military by substitution on payment of a fee - to one of a number of societies. I have googled this topic - and it seems that "Parish records include lists of men liable to serve in the militia compiled by parish constables prior to the ballot, lists of men balloted and their substitutes, and records of payment of relief to militia men and their families. Parish lists of men liable to serve in the militia (ten names or more): were for men between the ages of 18 and 50..." I suggest that the "Substitutes" would be those who could not afford to pay-off the "insurance" - and therefore their names would have appeared in the register for enlistment. Richard -----Original Message----- From: powys-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powys-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Lyn Nunn Sent: 24 September 2007 12:24 To: GLAMORGAN-L@rootsweb.com; powys@rootsweb.com; MONMOUTHSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [POWYS] Militia The Cambrian 16 June 1810 I am not quite sure what this is about - if anyone can explain I'd appreciate it. I am thinking it is a kind of insurance? Bristol, June1, 1810 NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC The Balloting for the Old Militia for some of the Counties commenced this day (the 1st of June, 1810), and it is presumed will be general throughout the kingdom in all this month. MILTIA ALL the men of ENGLAND and WALES, subject to the approaching MILITIA BALLOT, are most respectfully informed that they have an opportunity of becoming MEMBERS of an INSTITUTION, established in BRISTOL called THE UNION MILITIA CLUB of England and Wales, in which persons of every description are admitted. TERMS VIZ., 1st. A Subscription of HALF-A-GUINEA will entitle each Person drawn to serve and Enrolled, or by Substitute, to a proportion of the Funds of this Club, not exceeding Twelve Pounds Ten Shillings. 2d. A Subscription of ONE GUINEA will entitle each Person so drawn to serve and Enrolled, or by Substitute, to a proportion of the Funds of this Club, not exceeding Twenty-five Pounds. 3d. A Subscription of TWO GUINEAS will entitle each Person so drawn to serve and Enrolled, or by Substitute, to a proportion of the Funds of this Club, not exceeding Fifty Pounds. AGENTS in all the principal towns in ENGLAND and WALES are appointed to receive Subscriptions for all the Counties in the Kingdom, for which they will give each member so entering a Memorandum of receiving such Subscriptions, which will be transmitted to the Head Office, the Assembly Coffee-house, on the Quay, Bristol, for numerical arrangement, when Certificates will be immediately forwarded by first conveyance, and for which One shilling is to be paid to the Secretary. A. ABBOTT Administratrix to (J.K. ABOOTT, Head Office, the Assembly Coffee-house on the Quay, Bristol) Secretary: WHO HAS APPOINTED Messrs. STUCKEY. LEAN, HART and MANINGFORD, Bankers, Bristol, Treasurers. N.B. The Directors of this Institution consider it necessary to observe that though they do not pledge themselves to pay the several Members of this establishment, who may be enrolled, the full sums of Twelve Pounds Ten Shillings, Twenty-five Pounds, and Fifty Pounds, but only a proportion of the funds of the said Club, but they feel great pleasure in stating that, from the general received opinion of the success already obtained (being convinced that numbers secure the undertaking), have induced them to extend the boundaries of this Institution contrary to the practice of former years, that by such augmentation they have no doubt but the full sums of Twelve Pounds Ten Shillings, Twenty-five Pounds, and Fifty Pounds will be paid to the enrolled, and also a considerable division of the Subscription returned to the so drawn subscribers. Lyn Nunn Brisbane Australia =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message