More info. regarding Geneaology & DNA. ISOGG, The International Society of Genetic Genealogy has agreed to post the following "Success Stories" on their site _http://www.isogg.org/_ (http://www.isogg.org/) Ellis DNA Success Story "Back in AD 2001, I (Lloyd D. Ellis) entered the world of DNA testing, first with Oxford Ancestors, later with FamilyTreeDNA and EthnoAncestry, in the hope that someday I and others would find a meaningful match to their lineage. Surprise! In 2006 FTDNA advised me that I had one mismatch on 37 markers with another Ellis. I knew nothing of this person nor had our research paths crossed. I have a solid paper trail back to N. Wales c. 1500, thanks in part to Quaker records and the Clywd FHS. My Ellis match had his paper trail back to one Humphrey Ellis of Pennsylvania b. 1688 in N. Wales. The DNA match assisted in proving our male lineage back to one Cadwalader Ellis, Sr., b.c. 1655 in Llanycil Parish, N. Wales, who had two sons, Cadwalader Ellis, Jr. (the authors line) and a younger son Humphrey Ellis. Then another brick wall (one of many) appeared in 1500. No Wills or other historical data was available further back in time. Our male ancestor Syr John ap David Pastor of Llanycil Parish was born c. 1500. A fellow researcher in the UK suggested that I have a look at the published pedigrees in the National Library of Wales of Peter Bartrum and Lewys Dwnn Deputy Herald of Arms for Wales in the 16th. century. Pedigrees? I had never thought of researching Nobility or pedigrees. Another exciting Surprise ! Syr John ap David is shown as a direct male descendant of Rhirid Flaidd b. c. 1150, Lord of Penllyn, N. Wales. His pedigree goes back to Cunedda Wledig King of N. Wales b. c. AD 380 in Southern Scotland and further back into the mists of time". - - Posted on 29 Oct 2007 Sites of interest: _ Ellis DNA Project_ (http://ellis.dnafamilies.net/results_page.php) _ Ellis, Cadwalader Family History_ (http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=dubart&I11.x=22&I11.y=2) The above mentioned DNA matches are also shown on the Wales DNA Project. Lloyd Ellis ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com