Indeed, and when Heather first posed her question I wondered about that. But when I looked up the CDF uniforms though they all had stitched and embroidered arm insignia telling which branch. Also, there were ARP's etc, but nothing that was "LF" ... indeed, the closest thing to this other than ARP's, just in terms of collar insignia I mean, is the "VR" (Volunteer Reserve" of the RAF. Here's the list of abbreviations used for the various parts of the civil defense. No FL unfortunately. http://yourarchives.nationalarchives.gov.uk/index.php?title=World_War_II_Lis t_of_Abbreviations_used_for_Civil_Purposes That got me wondering whether it was a localized variant or organization that was not strictly established for home defense. Richard -----Original Message----- From: powys-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powys-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of David Spark Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 4:32 PM To: powys@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [POWYS] Black or Navy Uniform with FL on the upright collar The Civil Defence Corps was in existence for many years after 1945 Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Williams" <raw@sonic.net> To: <powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [POWYS] Black or Navy Uniform with FL on the upright collar > Heather, > those kind of badges we common during WWII in the various civil > defense/service branches, although being 1947 it would seem odd that > someone > would have a portrait done in such a uniform. > > If you send me a JPG of the picture I'll see if I can figure it out for > you > :) raw@sonic.net (my family has served in the UK military for a long > time, > so I might notice something else in the picture that helps). > > Richard > > -----Original Message----- > From: powys-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powys-bounces@rootsweb.com]On > Behalf Of Heather Smith > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 9:52 AM > To: POWYS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [POWYS] Black or Navy Uniform with FL on the upright collar > > > > > Does anyone recognise the following initals, please? FL > > I have a photograph of my mother's cousin Thomas Jones taking on 4 June > 1947. The family were from Heolgerrig Merthyr Tydfil. > > Thomas has a large FL on his collar, a row of medal bars above his left > breast pocket.There is a metal chain going into the pocket under the flap, > it is attached to the second buttonhole which is opposite the top of the > pocket. It could have perhaps a whistle or watch attached to it. The > buttons are fairly large and made of metal. There are two attached to > lapels > on > each side of his shounders. Thomas wears a peak cap with FL in a metal > circle. > The photo does not show the other side of his collar. > > Photograph taken by JEROME? > > Does anyone have any ideas at all, please? > > Thanks > > Heather > > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message