Margaret I wondered how my grandfather wound up in Canada. They used to advertise for farm hands in local newspapers, at least at the time my g/father migrated there. Someone on one of the Canadian lists kindly posted me an example advert ... I really have no idea where it is at this moment (will try looking in my filing cabinet later - if find will scan). 1911 Canadian census - think you need a specific address? Sorry for the dead end suggestion re Ancestors on Board - should read the website more carefully. Alison On 27/07/07, Brian & Margaret Harvey <bgh-mgh@teanstaffs.fsnet.co.uk> wrote: > Hi John, Carol, Alison and Carrol, > > Thank you for your responses to my email. Thomas lived on a smallholding of > 26 acres in the small parish of Llangurig before moving south where he was > employed in a steel works in Merthyr Tydfil at some period between 1871 and > 1881. He left for Canada and arrived in 1888 in the Kamloops area to work > on the Douglas Lake Cattle Ranch. There would have been sheep on the farm > in Wales so it would have been completely different although of course he > would have been working in the open air which he would have missed when > working in the steel works. > > Thomas became a foreman on the ranch, a position he held for many years > before leaving in April 1912 to go into partnership with a friend and buying > the Northern Transfer Company. Sadly Thomas had his leg amputated in the > August and died in the October age 52 years, he never married. > > I wonder how Thomas came to hear about the job at the Douglas Lake Ranch as > I am sure that he wouldn't have travelled all the that way without some idea > of what he was going to do. The journey in Canada would have been easier > than in the past before the railway as it had been opened a couple of years > earlier. > > Thank you for the website addresses, they will keep me busy however the > "ancestors on board" one goes from 1890-1960 so doesn't cover the year > Thomas left Wales. I may be able, however to look at sailings to give me an > idea where he was likely to have sailed from and to > > I have Thomas' death record and also his entry on the 1901 Census where he > was living in the Yale & Cariboo District however I have been unable to find > him in 1911. Are there any other censuses available for searching on line? > > Thanks again for your help. > > Regards, > Margaret H > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Steitz" <johnst@luckbros.com> > To: <powys@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 1:52 AM > Subject: Re: [POWYS] Sailing to Canada from Wales in 1888 > > > > Margaret > > Your ancestor was a smart man to head to Kamloops, a beautiful area. I > > believe all the records that remain are in Ottawa. There were several > > collecting points along the way up the St Lawrence. Regardless, I have > heard > > that many of the ship documents to Canada were lost in a fire but I would > be > > looking in Ottawa if I were you. Best of luck. > > John > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: powys-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powys-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > > Behalf Of Brian & Margaret Harvey > > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 7:56 PM > > To: powys@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [POWYS] Sailing to Canada from Wales in 1888 > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > Thomas Jones, one of my ancestors left Wales about 1888 to sail to Canada. > > He was born in Llangurig, Montgomeryshire but I think I have found him > > working as an "Iron baller" and lodging in Merthyr Tydfil in 1881. I am > > hoping someone can tell me from which port he would be likely to have > sailed > > and also where he would disembark on arrival in Canada. His final > > destination was the Kamloops area of British Columbia and I will be > grateful > > for any help and suggestions. > > > > Regards, > > Margaret Harvey > > > > =================== > > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > =================== > > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Wrong time frame, and this is west but might be of interest ... reply I got from a Canadian list a year ago (re travel in 1926): "there was an emigration scheme by the Canadian government to get workers out to the Canadian West in the 20s to help with the harvest. There was heavy advertisement in Great Britain .... Their passage would have been paid by the CPR (Canadian Pacific Railway) or other organization, as they were desperate for farm help." Margaret - assume you've posted your query to relevant Canadian lists? Alison

Hi Alison et al, Thanks for your two emails, firstly I have subscribed to the British Columbia list and received some very interesting information and suggestions however it is even more quiet than this one and emails have come to a stop. My husband Brian's grandfather was one of eight brothers and sisters and three of the men emigrated to Canada and one to America around 1910. They all worked in the wool mills in the Halifax, Yorkshire area and apparently the Canadian Government sent representatives to promote their country by offering eighty acres of land in Saskatchewan to anyone interested in emigrating. Brian's great uncles and their families moved to the Tisdale area and started building homesteads and working the land which was passed into their ownership. They all stayed there and made successes of their lives despite the fact that they had no experience of farming and no doubt life in the early days must have been very difficult. I was pleased you sent the "Ancestors on Board" website as it will be interesting to discover which Welsh ports were used to sail to Canada in 1890. Thanks again for your help. Regards, Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alison Bryan" <alison.bryan@gmail.com> To: <powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [POWYS] Sailing to Canada from Wales in 1888 > Margaret > > I wondered how my grandfather wound up in Canada. They used to > advertise for farm hands in local newspapers, at least at the time my > g/father migrated there. Someone on one of the Canadian lists kindly > posted me an example advert ... I really have no idea where it is at > this moment (will try looking in my filing cabinet later - if find > will scan). > > 1911 Canadian census - think you need a specific address? > > Sorry for the dead end suggestion re Ancestors on Board - should read > the website more carefully. > > Alison > > > > On 27/07/07, Brian & Margaret Harvey <bgh-mgh@teanstaffs.fsnet.co.uk> wrote: > > Hi John, Carol, Alison and Carrol, > > > > Thank you for your responses to my email. Thomas lived on a smallholding of > > 26 acres in the small parish of Llangurig before moving south where he was > > employed in a steel works in Merthyr Tydfil at some period between 1871 and > > 1881. He left for Canada and arrived in 1888 in the Kamloops area to work > > on the Douglas Lake Cattle Ranch. There would have been sheep on the farm > > in Wales so it would have been completely different although of course he > > would have been working in the open air which he would have missed when > > working in the steel works. > > > > Thomas became a foreman on the ranch, a position he held for many years > > before leaving in April 1912 to go into partnership with a friend and buying > > the Northern Transfer Company. Sadly Thomas had his leg amputated in the > > August and died in the October age 52 years, he never married. > > > > I wonder how Thomas came to hear about the job at the Douglas Lake Ranch as > > I am sure that he wouldn't have travelled all the that way without some idea > > of what he was going to do. The journey in Canada would have been easier > > than in the past before the railway as it had been opened a couple of years > > earlier. > > > > Thank you for the website addresses, they will keep me busy however the > > "ancestors on board" one goes from 1890-1960 so doesn't cover the year > > Thomas left Wales. I may be able, however to look at sailings to give me an > > idea where he was likely to have sailed from and to > > > > I have Thomas' death record and also his entry on the 1901 Census where he > > was living in the Yale & Cariboo District however I have been unable to find > > him in 1911. Are there any other censuses available for searching on line? > > > > Thanks again for your help. > > > > Regards, > > Margaret H > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Steitz" <johnst@luckbros.com> > > To: <powys@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 1:52 AM > > Subject: Re: [POWYS] Sailing to Canada from Wales in 1888 > > > > > > > Margaret > > > Your ancestor was a smart man to head to Kamloops, a beautiful area. I > > > believe all the records that remain are in Ottawa. There were several > > > collecting points along the way up the St Lawrence. Regardless, I have > > heard > > > that many of the ship documents to Canada were lost in a fire but I would > > be > > > looking in Ottawa if I were you. Best of luck. > > > John > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: powys-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powys-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > > > Behalf Of Brian & Margaret Harvey > > > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 7:56 PM > > > To: powys@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: [POWYS] Sailing to Canada from Wales in 1888 > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > Thomas Jones, one of my ancestors left Wales about 1888 to sail to Canada. > > > He was born in Llangurig, Montgomeryshire but I think I have found him > > > working as an "Iron baller" and lodging in Merthyr Tydfil in 1881. I am > > > hoping someone can tell me from which port he would be likely to have > > sailed > > > and also where he would disembark on arrival in Canada. His final > > > destination was the Kamloops area of British Columbia and I will be > > grateful > > > for any help and suggestions. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Margaret Harvey > > > > > > =================== > > > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > > www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in > > > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =================== > > > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > > www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > =================== > > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >