Thanks John and Joy, There is lots on the Elan Valley and I fund it very difficult to find it all when needed!! It needs an EV INDEX for us to work it well John, and some very good large photo's were seen at the Rhayader CARAD Exibition for the New Rhayader Museum nearly two years ago, so I will get their website for you asap. Does Lloyd Lewis or anyone know anything about those good CARAD EV School photos now please?? The EV Railway book is also very good on photos too, from _www.oakwoodpress.co.uk_ (http://www.oakwoodpress.co.uk) Best regards, Dennis in RAD,Powys. _dcleatond@aol.com_ (mailto:dcleatond@aol.com)