Hi Lesley and all, The Abergwesyn Hope family are a branch of the Rhayader Hopes. William Morgan(s) of Clun, Llanfihangel Abergwesyn (& a candidate as father to our Joseph Evans. William is buried in Pantycelyn Chgapel) married in 1804 an Ann Price who was a servant at Llwynmadoc, Llanfihangel Abergwesyn. They had a son and a daughter also called Ann b1806, who married in 1830 Thomas Hope, carpenter, of Rhayader. Their children (number?) included Rhys(Rees) Morgan Hope who worked at Trawsgyrch in 1851, for relatives called Williams who also farmed Brynderw, Abernant and Llwynderw. Rhys(Rees) Morgan Hope married into the Cochiaid Cwm Tywi family when he married Margaret Jones, Daughter of John Jones and wife Sarah (?)and Granddaughter of Rees Jones (c1776-1859) of Cwmirfon and New Inn, Llanwrtyd and his wife Margaret (nee Price & originally of Penybont Isaf, Llanwrtyd Wells). Rhys and Margaret Hope went to live at Pentwyn (Grouse Inn) Abergwesyn (Llanddewi?)and they had descendents. I too am descended from Rhys Jones and Margaret (nee Price), but via their other son called Rees Jones of Dinas Farm, Llanwrtyd and his wife Elizabeth (nee Protheroe & originally of Tymawr, Abergwesyn. Hope that is of interest to you and others. Hilary -----Original Message----- From: powys-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powys-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of DCLEATOND@aol.com Sent: 20 January 2008 00:29 To: powys@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [POWYS] RAD/BRE - Hope and Davies's Hi Lesley, The Hope's at Abergwesyn were listed on the LDS 1881 Census CD's I have, Rhys Hope was the Elder one I think. We are not sure if they were related to the Hope family in Newbridge that I have known since the 1932 days. There were also Hope's in Rhayader District and St Harmon. Which Police Insp do you need?? The was a retired London Met Police Supdt Evan Davies in the Powys FHS NW BRE 1861 Census booklet, aged 48, at Glancelle Village No 16, Llangamarch. Yrs, Dennis. =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1233 - Release Date: 19/01/2008 18:37 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1233 - Release Date: 19/01/2008 18:37