I do have a birth cert for Arthur Rogers EVANS which reads as follows;- born 14/12/1867 Nobley Walton name Arthur Rogers sex boy father Rees EVANS mother Eliza EVANS formerily DAVIES occ Labourer signature Eliza EVANS mother Nobley Walton the mark of. The 1881 census shows:- William ROGERS age 42 b Old Radnor Eliza ROGERS " 40 b Glascwm John ROGERS " 19 b Old Radnor Price ROGERS " 15 b Old Radnor Arthur ROGERS " 13 b Old Radnor Lewis J ROGERS " 11 b Cascob Elizabeth A ROGERS 8 b Titley Hereford Alice ROGERS 6 b Kington " Emily ROGERS 4 b " Bryan ROGERS 2 b " Gertrude ROGERS 1 b " I have birth certs for Emily,Gertrude,Bryan all of which have farther as William and Mother as Eliza. I will follow up your suggestions. Regards DI Jones