Hello Pete, I have the 1841 census cd so I had a look for the properties you mention. As the enumerator was travelling: Cwmcamlaisfawr: Property occupied by John Jenkins 48 Farmer, his wife, 2 ag lab & 2 female servants. Cwmcamlais: Davies, Thomas 53 Farmer, his wife and 3 children, 2 ag labs & 2 female servants. (Then the enumerator went to a couple of other farms Llyncelyn & Tir y graig) Neuadd: Evans, Thomas 70 Farmer " Alice 66 " Edward 25 " Alice 23 1 ag lab & 1 female servant Blaencamlaisfach: Price, William 35 Farmer, wife & 2 children, 1 ag lab & 1 f/s Camlais Mill: Occupied by a family named Thomas with a shoemaker and carpenter Blaencamlais (1): Price, Morgan 59 Farmer " Alice 52 " Margaret 24 " Howell 17 " Thomas 13 Blaencamlais (2): Evans, Thomas 37 Farmer " Rebekah 39 3 ag labs & 1 f/s Hope this helps you out. I have an interest in Price people in the area of Defynnog and Llywel and have looked at the Morgan and William Price at Blaencamlais before...but never been able to make a connection to them. You never know... I am USA also. Gwen gisaac@netins.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Preston" <juliefpreston@sbcglobal.net> To: "Pete James" <pete@pjames.freeserve.co.uk>; "Powys List" <POWYS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 7:56 AM Subject: [POWYS] Neuadd, Blaencamlais & Cwmcamlais, Defynnog BRE > (Posting reply back to the list so others can follow this thread) > > Pete, > > I actually have no connection with Breconshire. My ancestry lies in > Montgomeryshire and Cardiganshire and I'm in the U.S. I have the 1881 > Census on CD's (LDS) here at home so it was an easy lookup. There may be > others on the Powys list who will have more direct information about Neuadd > to add to your knowledge of its history. > > Kind regards, > > Julie Preston > juliefpreston@sbcglobal.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pete James" <pete@pjames.freeserve.co.uk> > To: "'Julie Preston'" <juliefpreston@sbcglobal.net> > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 7:10 AM > Subject: RE: [POWYS] Blaencamlais & Cwmcamlais, Defynnog BRE > > > > Hi Julie, > > > > Thank you so much for providing me with this information. I haven't > > researched in earnest yet, but I will get going as soon as time allows. > > > > So, what was your interest in the area? Did you used to live around here? > > > > Also, would you like me to take some photos of the properties around the > > area (I'll get permissions from the owners of course!) so you can match > > them > > to places you mentioned? > > > > Many thanks > > Pete > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Julie Preston [mailto:juliefpreston@sbcglobal.net] > > Sent: 20 February 2008 19:04 > > To: powys@rootsweb.com; pete@pjames.freeserve.co.uk > > Subject: Re: [POWYS] Blaencamlais & Cwmcamlais, Defynnog BRE > > > > > > Peter, > > > > You may be interested to see the family who occupied Neuadd in 1881: > > > > 1881 Census Index > > Dwelling: Neuadd > > Census Place: Devynnock, Brecon, Wales > > Source: FHL Film 1342313 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5457 Folio 73 > > Page > > > > 2 > > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > > Edward EVANS M 69 M Devynnock, Brecknock, Wales > > Rel: Head > > Occ: Farmer Of 136 Acres Emp 3 Men > > Rachel EVANS M 60 F Devynnock, Brecknock, Wales > > Rel: Wife > > Occ: Farmer Wife > > David EVANS U 29 M Devynnock, Brecknock, Wales > > Rel: Son > > Occ: Farmer Son > > Alice EVANS U 26 F Devynnock, Brecknock, Wales > > Rel: Daur > > Occ: Farmer Daur > > Thomas EVANS U 24 M Devynnock, Brecknock, Wales > > Rel: Son > > Occ: Farmer Son > > Rachel LEWIS U 16 F Devynnock, Brecknock, Wales > > Rel: Serv > > Occ: Domestic Servant > > > > Blaencamlais Fach was enumerated before Neuadd, occupied by an 80-year-old > > widow, Sarah PRICE, Farmer of 180 acres, employing 3 men & 1 boy, > > together > > with her son, Richard, and a domestic servant. > > > > Next entry was Pantygelynen, occupied by an Agricultural Labourer, John > > MORGAN, age 64 and his wife and grandson (one Roger HAVARD). > > > > The entry that follows Neuadd in the enumeration was for Blaencamlais > > Fawr, > > occupied by Philip WILLIAMS, Farmer of 150 acres. > > > > You can also do a search on the National Library of Wales website > > http://www.llgc.org.uk/ > > -- online databases (Under "Family History", then "Search Archival > > Databases", then choose "Archives & Manuscripts [before 1999 and after > > 1999]) -- to see what might pop up. Often, the results will show various > > land leases covering a span of many years -- be sure to use creative > > spelling. > > > > Good luck! > > > > Julie Preston > > juliefpreston@sbcglobal.net > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Pete James" <pete@pjames.freeserve.co.uk> > > To: <powys@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 1:20 PM > > Subject: [POWYS] Blaencamlais & Cwmcamlais, Defynnog BRE > > > > > >> Hello Everyone, > >> > >> > >> > >> I now own a converted barn which was part of The Neuadd at Cwmcamlais, > >> called Tan Y Neuadd. I was wondering about the history of the Neuadd. > >> > >> > >> > >> Would any of you be able to provide any information? > >> > >> > >> > >> Many thanks > >> > >> Peter James > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> =================== > >> Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > >> www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.8/1289 - Release Date: 02/20/2008 10:26 AM > >

Hi Folks, I would appreciate knowing what county the town of Tretower, located roughly 3 miles northwest of Crickhowell would have been in back in the middle of the 15th. century. Regards Tom Dunn, Kilbrittain, Co. Cork, Ireland