Its worth a look at the IGI http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true If you enter Last Name = Jones, Father = Humphrey, Mother = Sarah, Region = British Isles, Batch Number = C057511 and click on "Search" you should get 5 entries - including two Johns. The one baptised 2.10.1825 apparently dies 18.6.1837. The other baptised 4.4.1824 appears to survive. Both are born to a Humphrey & Sarah Jones. Towyn is close to Aberdovey. Something to puzzle over!! Cheers John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Preston" <juliefpreston@sbcglobal.net> To: <powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [POWYS] John W. Jones and Elizabeth Pugh > > Linda, > > Since both John JONES and Elizabeth were born prior to the advent of Civil > Registration (July 1837), you will not be able to obtain *birth > certificates* for them or any of their forebears. You must locate their > baptism entries in the parish registers (Bishop's Transcripts microfilmed > by > the LDS) or chapel registers (often Calvinistic Methodists or Wesleyan > Methodists - Wesleyan ministers worked a 'circuit' so their registers > cover > a wide area, while Calvinistic Methodist registers are extremely detailed > and a great find). You need to work backward in time through any/all > available documentation, beginning with the marriage certificate and then > locating them in the 1851 & 1841 census returns, hopefully with their > respective families. There will be no record of them living as a married > couple since they married and emigrated between census years. > > Be aware the many Welsh people did not have a middle name or initial but > adopted one upon arrival in the U.S. so don't expect his marriage entry to > have the "W". > A cursury check of www.northwalesbmd.org.uk marriages, Machynlleth > District, > 1856, turned up one possibility for John JONES, Machynlleth, Civil > Marriage > (i.e., took place at the registrar's office), Registers now at > Powys-Machynlleth Supt. Reg. Office, Ref. No. MACH/02/59. > > There are two marries on each page of the register -- these are the other > persons listed: > > ELLIS Elizabeth > LEWIS Ellis > MORRIS Sarah > > Suggest you explore the NorthWalesBMD site and try to order their marriage > certificate. If you contact the Machynlleth Reg. Office directly, they > may > be able to easily tell you if the marriage date matches the date you have > (assuming it's correct). The marriage certificate will provide you with > the > residence of each of them at the time of marriage, occupations, ages > (sometimes says "Full Age"), father's name & occupation. > > Kind regards, > > Julie Preston > juliefpreston@sbcglobal.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "K.F. gengenbacher" <genbach@hotmail.com> > To: <powys-l@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 11:44 PM > Subject: [POWYS] John W. Jones and Elizabeth Pugh > > > > Hello, am new to the list. I am researching John W. Jones, born of > Humphrie > and Sara Jones, who lived near Aberdovey. He was born Sep 25, 1825. On > July > 24, 1856 John married Elizabeth (Pugh?) who was born Feb. 1829, and lived > near Machnylleth. I believe they were married in Machnylleth. In Sept of > 1856 they sailed from Liverpool for America, where they spent the rest of > their lives in Ohio. I have no official documents, such as birth, death, > or > marriage certs. I have high hopes of finding these items, however. Any > help > or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. > > Linda Gengenbacher > > _________________________________________________________________ > Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star > power. > http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1300 - Release Date: > 26/02/2008 19:50 > >