Hello again Listers, I am still searching WATERS/WALTERS and I really don't know where to look, now. I think I might have to search every Parish Register between Monmouthshire and Brecon!! Unfortunately, I think the family is gone before 1841 Census, so looking at BDM's pre 1837. Highly likely the name is sometimes WATERS, sometimes WALTERS. Possibility my 'tree' only flowered once in Wales, with 3xGrtGrandmother, SARAH, born abt. 1815(transported 1833) - roots may lie in a border County and migrated into Wales for the Iron Ore and/or Coal; however, I have seen a few WALTERS who may well have been around for a while. I have a few definite RECORDED FACTS. so I figure if I join the dots on the map (or somebody who knows what they're looking at, does that) some likely Parishes might emerge to be searched. Death Cert info - born Abergavenny (nothing on Baps, but could be somewhere in 'hundred of Abergavenny') - possibilty baptised elsewhere when convenient. Baptism for Sarah WALTERS in Llanelly in 1817, parents John & Sarah. (Death Cert info says parents John & Martha - could be informant error.) Court records show Sarah 16yrs in Jan, 17 yrs in Oct, 1832. Baptism can be years after birth. Known Parishes where Sarah resided (per Court Records) - St.Michael Cwmdu and St. Michael Cathedine (both searched by Powys Archives Research - no result.) LDS film for LLanelly showed a DEATH of JOHN WATERS in 1826, aged 33yrs, abode - BRYN MAWR. This is a perfect match, for someone probably at the Iron Works and leaving an 11yr old daughter, I believe, to fend for herself. No other info on Burial List. Mother may have died years previously, re-married, or simply, "left". Drawing a line from Abergavenny to Llanelly to Cwmdu and Cathedine - can somebody tell me the likely Parishes in-between, to search for BDM's re WALTERS and/or WATERS??? Apologies for lengthy query; if you have read this, thank you for your patience. Tried working it out on Genuki but ashamed to say, I keep getting lost!! Really desperate now, if I don't find anything this time round, I may have to admit defeat. All suggestions welcome and any help truly appreciated. Thank you. Kind regards, Dawn Stanton (Tasmania)