Hi Tim You could be right. It's ages since I did this research but from recollection I think that he was working in South Wales as a masseur, but migrated to the then fashionable spa town on Llandrinod Wells, and set up shop so to speak, offering accommodation for middle class folk who couldn't afford to stay in the big Victorian hotels - as well as promote his masseur business" at home" with the help of his wife and assistant ( later his second wife!). He carried on the latter massage business in Church Stretton until retirement - presume he moved when tourist trade collapsed in WW1 and aftermath. Must look up 1901 and 1911 censuses for Llandrinod - and be in touch with archives there about any new documents/books about the spa town - its development and decline Thanks for your interest Richard -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Timothy Davis Sent: 02 December 2010 8:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [POWYS] Greenwood and Davis families in Powys Richar and Pam Thank you for the follow-up. It is also possible that he added the "Steart" to distinguish himself from another Charles Davies in the area. "Charles Davies" is probably a common name combination. Tim On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 3:58 PM, richardellis < [email protected]> wrote: > Hi Tim > > Expected to find the DAVIES lineage was Welsh - and undaunted researched > all the Charles Davies about the same age- but somehow it didn't work! > > Out of the blue, I had an internet message from someone in St Helens > Lancashire, whose relative had > married a Charles Stewart Davies - and they were house builders there and > not Welsh. > > I wasn't convinced until I then discovered that this lady was his second > wife and they had married in Brighton!- > and she had been an assistant in his business in Llandrinod Wells...the > first wife had died! > > So I don't think there's a link between your William Davis and Charles > Stewart Davies > > Richard & Pam > > ps Still not found out why he called himself Charles STEWART Davies as he > was born Charles Davies in > St Helens, and became a masseur in South Wales - only changing his name > when > he came to Llandrinod Wells. > Seems he did it so he had more uncommon and superior name! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Timothy Davis > Sent: 01 December 2010 6:41 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [POWYS] Greenwood and Davis families in Powys > > Richard and Pam > > How far back do you have a lineage for Charles Stewat Davie?. I'm trying to > find family from William Davis, b. 1640 and his son William, b. 1663 in > Llanstephan, Radnorshire (Powys), Wales who emigrated to America in 1684. > > Tim > > Timothy White Davis > 6th greatgrandson of William Davis, b. 1663 > > On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 11:49 AM, richardellis < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Dear Listers... > > > > > > > > If you are not too busy!...I'm trying to tie up loose ends....and > wondered > > if anyone out there could help . > > > > > > > > 1.Greenwoods of Llanbister Powys > > > > > > > > They were a farming family in the 18th and 19th centuries, and I have > > > > their bmd from local parish church - and to cut a long story short - one > of > > > > their descendents returned from Ontario Canada in the early 1890's to > > become > > > > > > Viscount Hamar Greenwood of Llanbister in the 1920's. > > > > > > > > t's known that he re-visited Wales on his migration back to the home > > country > > > > c 1893 : he had little money though he had a Canadian law degree - and > > probably called on his > > > > great aunt Adeliza* - who was married to a successful grocer/draper John > > Clee in Knighton. > > > > > > > > It's thought that Hamar may have earned his keep giving lectures on > > Temperance. > > > > > > > > Were there any local records about Temperance in this part of Wales or > > nearby Shropshire? > > > > > > > > Are there any newspaper reports about him in Wales at this time on > > temperance meetings? > > > > Also at the outbreak of WW1, he was a " celebrity " involved in > recruiting > > for The South Welsh Borderers > > > > as he was their Lieutenant Colonel until the regiment went to France in > > 1915 : only briefly served in France, > > > > before he served under Lord Derby at the War Office to get more > > "volunteers" > > / organise compulsory recruitment. > > > > c 1916. > > > > > > > > Again any newspaper reports etc? > > > > > > > > (We visited Brecon cathedral some years ago where there is a chapel > > dedicated to the memory of the SWB > > > > and a commemorative plaque with his name) > > > > > > > > Any help welcome! > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Charles Stewart Davies* in Llandrinod Wells > > > > > > > > He was involved in the late Victorian successful "spa town" tourist > trade! > > as a hotel proprietor > > > > and as an electro mechanical masseur in Park Terrace..... > > > > > > > > Always wondered what kind of equipment was used in this practice! Anyone > > got any ideas > > > > or know details of such equipment ? We last visited the old spa and > > archives > > there some 10 years ago. > > > > > > > > Finally Charles Stewart was a founder member of Llandrinod Golf club - on > > previous enquiries > > > > we didn't find any more information, though think a history of this club > > was > > being prepared. > > > > Possibly photos would have been taken of the founders etc?... and ended > up > > in magazines/newspapers > > > > > > > > Hope this is of interest! > > > > > > > > > > > > Richard and Pam (nee Clee) in Surrey > > > > > > > > * Our family connection > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =================== > > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > > www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message