----- Original Message ----- From: "Peggy Sue" <pretty.peggy.> To: <POWYS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 12:05 PM Subject: [POWYS] BRE- Llanfihangels Bryn Pabuan and Llanafan Fawr? > Can anyone tell me how close these two BRE locations are? Does it make > any kind of sense that children of one couple would be baptized in both > places? Strictly speaking a child should never have been baptised twice - one of the questions asked during the ordinary baptismal service was to ascertain that no previous baptism had ever taken place. (However if there was ever any doubt on the subject, then a form of conditional baptism could proceed.) This is also assuming that we are not considering a case (not uncommon) of a sick child being privately baptised, and subsequently being "received" into church in the presence of the full congregation. What was also quite common was for there to be separate registers for parishes and for individual chapelries falling within the parish. The chapel registers would usually be regarded as unofficial, and so all or many of their entries would frequently be further transcribed into the register of the parent parish - often without this process having been made particularly clear. Such chapelries would sometimes eventually become independent parishes in their own right. However so far as I can see, Llanfihangel Bryn Pabuan and Llanafan Fawr were both quite ancient parishes, although the latter had a small detached portion lying beyond the former. It would be rare (and legally dubious) for two separate parishes ever to have shared the same register, although I think I can remember finding at least one example. AJ

Thank you, Aidan, that was very informative. After reading your response, I re-read my query and see that it is worded ambiguously. I meant different children of the same couple rather than the same child being baptized twice, but I can see where that is unclear. That being said, the information in your reply is valuable and probably not something that would spring to my mind, especially the private baptism of a sick child or a conditional baptism, which I'd never heard of. Thanks again for replying. On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Aidan Jones <acjj@clara.net> wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peggy Sue" <pretty.peggy.> > To: <POWYS@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 12:05 PM > Subject: [POWYS] BRE- Llanfihangels Bryn Pabuan and Llanafan Fawr? > > > Can anyone tell me how close these two BRE locations are? Does it make > > any kind of sense that children of one couple would be baptized in both > > places? > > > Strictly speaking a child should never have been baptised twice - one of > the > questions asked during the ordinary baptismal service was to ascertain that > no previous baptism had ever taken place. (However if there was ever any > doubt on the subject, then a form of conditional baptism could proceed.) > > This is also assuming that we are not considering a case (not uncommon) of > a > sick child being privately baptised, and subsequently being "received" into > church in the presence of the full congregation. > > What was also quite common was for there to be separate registers for > parishes and for individual chapelries falling within the parish. The > chapel registers would usually be regarded as unofficial, and so all or > many > of their entries would frequently be further transcribed into the register > of the parent parish - often without this process having been made > particularly clear. Such chapelries would sometimes eventually become > independent parishes in their own right. However so far as I can see, > Llanfihangel Bryn Pabuan and Llanafan Fawr were both quite ancient > parishes, > although the latter had a small detached portion lying beyond the former. > > It would be rare (and legally dubious) for two separate parishes ever to > have shared the same register, although I think I can remember finding at > least one example. > > AJ > > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2011.co.uk/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- Luzerne County, Pennsylvania, Families: AMOS, CHARLES, DAVIES, FISHER, HENRY, PRICE, RAUGH/ROUGH, REESE, WAGNER Monmouthshire Families: AMOS/HAMON, REES Glamorganshire Families: DAVIS/DAVIES, COLLINS (also Ireland), REESE Cardiganshire Families: GRIFFITHS, THOMAS Dutch and German Families: UPDYKE, DIETRICH, GRANTZ