Could any one advise if I can find parish registers on line for St Davids COLVA/COLFA & Glascwm/Glascombe Please

No, it is not a SPAM address. It is a short-cut link to a http://www.findmypast.co.uk page. When you examine the text around the link, you will discover that it is legitimate. A Spammer will not bother to obtain that kind of detailed or specific information. Steve -----Original Message----- From: powys-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powys-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Allan & Liz Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 4:19 PM To: powys@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [POWYS] online parish registers Importance: High All Members The web site below looks like a SPAM web address - please don't open Allan On 13/07/2012 4:05 AM, David wrote: > Many Welsh PRs have just been added on-line (index and original image): > > http://tidd.ly/958288d3 > > See the lists for coverage, though note there may be some gaps in the > years. > > Glascwm & Colfa are both on there. > > > David > > On Thu, 2012-07-12 at 16:50 +0100, DAVID JONES wrote: >> Could any one advise if I can find parish registers on line for St >> Davids COLVA/COLFA & Glascwm/Glascombe Please =================== >> Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: >> www.jlb2011.co.uk/powyslist.htm >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > www.jlb2011.co.uk/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2011.co.uk/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you, Roderick, for sending me something new. I will take a look at the William you sent. I have nothing at all to go on really except the birth abt 1771. The fact that William below has a father Evan could be a trail to follow, although we all know what Welsh names are like.... Kind regards, Tomi > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 08:48:21 -0400 > From: Roderick Ward <rodericktward@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [POWYS] Nock/Nokes > To: powys@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CAKP1-izB_j4FUbG=tc1RH1n+zOzz0NfWusawjZSXHk2VyuiDdQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > There is this baptism on Findmypast: > > William Nock, baptized 1 Dec 1768 in Berriew. Father Evan Nock, abode > Llifior.

I am aware of course of the current FMP uploading of the parish registers of Wales, but I have been, on behalf of Montgomeryshire Genealogical Society sending Montgomeryshire baptisms, marriages and burials to FMP for many years. Most of our parishes are online at the FMP site. www.findmypast.co.uk/search/parish-records/ Recently our team has transcribed the registers of Mallwyd and Llanymawddwy. These churches are in Meirioneth but Mallwyd has some townships within Montgomeryshire. We transcribed these in liaison with Gwynedd F.H.S. who have published them in booklets [see www.gwyneddfhs.org/ ]. It was agreed that we would upload the data on to our FMP site and I am pleased to announce that they have now appeared. We believe that they provide a different aspect to FMP's own input. They cover Mallwyd - Baptisms 1568-1894; Marriages 1568-1837; Burials 1568-1876 Llanymawddwy - Baptisms 1627-1934; Marriages 1627-1837; Burials 1627-1899 There were substantial gaps in the Llanymawddwy registers which we have filled from the Bishops Transcripts, where available. Bryn Ellis

On behalf of those in the USA and elsewhere, we appreciate your efforts greatly. There is no substitute for the value of the people who live in the area and know the idiosyncrasies of the local records. *Katherine Benbow * * * ** On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 6:38 AM, Bryn Ellis <bryn@mypostoffice.co.uk> wrote: > I am aware of course of the current FMP uploading of the parish registers > of Wales, but I have been, on behalf of Montgomeryshire Genealogical > Society sending Montgomeryshire baptisms, marriages and burials to FMP for > many years. Most of our parishes are online at the FMP site. > www.findmypast.co.uk/search/parish-records/ > > > > Recently our team has transcribed the registers of Mallwyd and > Llanymawddwy. These churches are in Meirioneth but Mallwyd has some > townships within Montgomeryshire. We transcribed these in liaison with > Gwynedd F.H.S. who have published them in booklets [see > www.gwyneddfhs.org/ ]. > > > > It was agreed that we would upload the data on to our FMP site and I am > pleased to announce that they have now appeared. We believe that they > provide a different aspect to FMP's own input. > > > > They cover > > Mallwyd - Baptisms 1568-1894; Marriages 1568-1837; Burials 1568-1876 > > Llanymawddwy - Baptisms 1627-1934; Marriages 1627-1837; Burials 1627-1899 > > There were substantial gaps in the Llanymawddwy registers which we have > filled from the Bishops Transcripts, where available. > > Bryn Ellis > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2011.co.uk/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a disgrace; and it doesn't surprise me that FindMyPast have completely botched this project. I signed up for FMP with the recent addition of records. I can't see how they could have got this so wrong, though I had no idea it is as bad as a few people have pointed out. I'm mainly looking in Montgomeryshire and Denbighshire. Though I also wanted to search for missing marriages across the border. However, I'm finding counties like Radnorshire have very little coverage. For unknown reasons, registers for some years are missing. e.g. registers for Mochdre, Montgomeryshire are missing from about 1750 to 1812. I know the originals exist, and based on what people are saying it is quite possible that they have been filled in the wrong place. Many registers don't go much further back than 1812, even though the originals exist going further back. Llansilin has gaps and has for some reason been split into Denbigh. and Mont., when none of the parish is in Mont. About half of Denbigh. parishes are not labelled pre-1813. With the lack of variety of "surnames" in Denbigh. this makes that county's records near useless. Further I don't have much hope that FMP will rectify this issue as I know those records have been like that since March and there are similar issues with the Cheshire collection, which I think has been online for more than a year. So, I have paid £100 for the membership, but due to their trademark botching I have only been able to break-down one of numerous brick walls I was hoping to work through. Quite tempted to ask for a refund due to them advertising something they don't have. I'd much prefer them to fix the issues, but based on past experience I can't see that coming. David. On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 09:41 +0000, Shirley W. Vinall wrote: > Nicola's advice is most helpful. I too have been sending a series of error reports, which have been accepted. Oddly enough, many of mine also relate to the Dolgellau/Llanbrynmair confusion, but from the other direction. When I looked at the images for many people who according to the transcriptions might have been my Dolgellau relatives, the page clearly referred to Llanbrynmair. I sent error reports for as many individual entries as I could, but, like Nicola, I do not know if the complete set of records will be changed, or whether the relevant Dolgellau records will surface. > > Two other comments which may be of more general use although I encountered them with Merioneth records: > > 1. A county-wide search sometimes produces names with no parish reference. On two occasions I found that the image clearly related to a parish which Findmypast did not list as within their current coverage - so they are worth looking at. > > 2. Patronymics are a problem, as with some other databases. With early records, if you can't find the person under the name under which they were generally known, try putting in the Christian name only, as the index refers to them as if the father's patronymic was a surname. > > Shirley > > ________________________________________ > From: powys-bounces@rootsweb.com [powys-bounces@rootsweb.com] on behalf of Nicola BJ [nicolabj@waitrose.com] > Sent: 11 July 2012 09:56 > To: powys@rootsweb.com > Subject: [POWYS] .Re: Findmypast Transcriptions > > Hello Listers > > I have been sending dozens of transcription error reports to Findmypast > where registers have been listed under the wrong parish. Most of these so > far Findmypast have accepted (though I don't know whether they have > corrected just the individual record or the whole register). However they > have refused to correct some of the entries for Llanbryn-mair, > Montgomeryshire, which are listed under Dolgellau, Merionethshire. I know > with 100% certainty that Findmypast are wrong in this instance (the > townships Rhiwsaeson, Tafolwern, Pennant, Dolgadfan and Tirymynach are given > on the relevant pages), but they haven't bothered to go back to the start of > the register to check. Therefore, any listers who are looking for > Llanbryn-mair events would do well also to check under Dolgellau. Perhaps > also if other FMP users were to send in similar error reports for the > Llanbryn-mair entries FMP might try a bit harder to check. > > > > On a related point, it seems that in some cases (Anglesey anyway) parishes > have slipped by one in alphabetical order. Thus Aberffraw given as Amlwch, > Llanbabo as Llanbadrig, Llanfaelog to Llanfaethlu - and so on for lots of > parishes. > > Nicola BJ > > > > ----------------------- > > Original message > > From: David < david@olyeo.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [POWYS] Findmypast Transcriptions > Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2012 02:22:41 +0100 > References: > <mailman.196.1341318262.16101.powys@rootsweb.com><002c01cd5923$1b2269e0$5167 > 3da0$@com><8EB84996B2919A4A96AD647F3C30415D4F5D4090@vime-mbx5.rdg.ac.uk><4FF > 3832F.2020703@tpg.com.au><201207032356.q63NuJIo029681@mail14.tpg.com.au> > In-Reply-To: <201207032356.q63NuJIo029681@mail14.tpg.com.au> > > > Some of the registers are not connected to a parish, which may be part > of the problem. Yet another issue is that some registers are in the > wrong country, e.g. Llansilin is in both Denbigh & Montgonery. > > FMP are particularly error prone and as a web developer I can > confidently say their development team are not up to the grade required > to deal with 100s of millions of records. Their search system is > antiquated and much slower than it could be with a few tweaks. > > David > > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2011.co.uk/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2011.co.uk/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Listers I have been sending dozens of transcription error reports to Findmypast where registers have been listed under the wrong parish. Most of these so far Findmypast have accepted (though I don't know whether they have corrected just the individual record or the whole register). However they have refused to correct some of the entries for Llanbryn-mair, Montgomeryshire, which are listed under Dolgellau, Merionethshire. I know with 100% certainty that Findmypast are wrong in this instance (the townships Rhiwsaeson, Tafolwern, Pennant, Dolgadfan and Tirymynach are given on the relevant pages), but they haven't bothered to go back to the start of the register to check. Therefore, any listers who are looking for Llanbryn-mair events would do well also to check under Dolgellau. Perhaps also if other FMP users were to send in similar error reports for the Llanbryn-mair entries FMP might try a bit harder to check. On a related point, it seems that in some cases (Anglesey anyway) parishes have slipped by one in alphabetical order. Thus Aberffraw given as Amlwch, Llanbabo as Llanbadrig, Llanfaelog to Llanfaethlu - and so on for lots of parishes. Nicola BJ ----------------------- Original message From: David < david@olyeo.co.uk> Subject: Re: [POWYS] Findmypast Transcriptions Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2012 02:22:41 +0100 References: <mailman.196.1341318262.16101.powys@rootsweb.com><002c01cd5923$1b2269e0$5167 3da0$@com><8EB84996B2919A4A96AD647F3C30415D4F5D4090@vime-mbx5.rdg.ac.uk><4FF 3832F.2020703@tpg.com.au><201207032356.q63NuJIo029681@mail14.tpg.com.au> In-Reply-To: <201207032356.q63NuJIo029681@mail14.tpg.com.au> Some of the registers are not connected to a parish, which may be part of the problem. Yet another issue is that some registers are in the wrong country, e.g. Llansilin is in both Denbigh & Montgonery. FMP are particularly error prone and as a web developer I can confidently say their development team are not up to the grade required to deal with 100s of millions of records. Their search system is antiquated and much slower than it could be with a few tweaks. David

Nicola's advice is most helpful. I too have been sending a series of error reports, which have been accepted. Oddly enough, many of mine also relate to the Dolgellau/Llanbrynmair confusion, but from the other direction. When I looked at the images for many people who according to the transcriptions might have been my Dolgellau relatives, the page clearly referred to Llanbrynmair. I sent error reports for as many individual entries as I could, but, like Nicola, I do not know if the complete set of records will be changed, or whether the relevant Dolgellau records will surface. Two other comments which may be of more general use although I encountered them with Merioneth records: 1. A county-wide search sometimes produces names with no parish reference. On two occasions I found that the image clearly related to a parish which Findmypast did not list as within their current coverage - so they are worth looking at. 2. Patronymics are a problem, as with some other databases. With early records, if you can't find the person under the name under which they were generally known, try putting in the Christian name only, as the index refers to them as if the father's patronymic was a surname. Shirley ________________________________________ From: powys-bounces@rootsweb.com [powys-bounces@rootsweb.com] on behalf of Nicola BJ [nicolabj@waitrose.com] Sent: 11 July 2012 09:56 To: powys@rootsweb.com Subject: [POWYS] .Re: Findmypast Transcriptions Hello Listers I have been sending dozens of transcription error reports to Findmypast where registers have been listed under the wrong parish. Most of these so far Findmypast have accepted (though I don't know whether they have corrected just the individual record or the whole register). However they have refused to correct some of the entries for Llanbryn-mair, Montgomeryshire, which are listed under Dolgellau, Merionethshire. I know with 100% certainty that Findmypast are wrong in this instance (the townships Rhiwsaeson, Tafolwern, Pennant, Dolgadfan and Tirymynach are given on the relevant pages), but they haven't bothered to go back to the start of the register to check. Therefore, any listers who are looking for Llanbryn-mair events would do well also to check under Dolgellau. Perhaps also if other FMP users were to send in similar error reports for the Llanbryn-mair entries FMP might try a bit harder to check. On a related point, it seems that in some cases (Anglesey anyway) parishes have slipped by one in alphabetical order. Thus Aberffraw given as Amlwch, Llanbabo as Llanbadrig, Llanfaelog to Llanfaethlu - and so on for lots of parishes. Nicola BJ ----------------------- Original message From: David < david@olyeo.co.uk> Subject: Re: [POWYS] Findmypast Transcriptions Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2012 02:22:41 +0100 References: <mailman.196.1341318262.16101.powys@rootsweb.com><002c01cd5923$1b2269e0$5167 3da0$@com><8EB84996B2919A4A96AD647F3C30415D4F5D4090@vime-mbx5.rdg.ac.uk><4FF 3832F.2020703@tpg.com.au><201207032356.q63NuJIo029681@mail14.tpg.com.au> In-Reply-To: <201207032356.q63NuJIo029681@mail14.tpg.com.au> Some of the registers are not connected to a parish, which may be part of the problem. Yet another issue is that some registers are in the wrong country, e.g. Llansilin is in both Denbigh & Montgonery. FMP are particularly error prone and as a web developer I can confidently say their development team are not up to the grade required to deal with 100s of millions of records. Their search system is antiquated and much slower than it could be with a few tweaks. David =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2011.co.uk/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Patricia <gfpryc@aol.com> wrote: I tried to send you an account of my search for Plentiful Gates but Rootsweb rejected it as too large... =========================== Dear Listers, Seeing Patricia's problem has prompted me to remind all listers that RootsWeb mailing lists have a maximum allowable size for the messages distributed on the lists. Any message bigger than the maximum is rejected. For the Powys List the maximum is set at 40 kilobytes, so any message larger than this will not be distributed. Also, please remember that it is not possible to send attachments through the RootsWeb mailing list system. Messages with attached files will be rejected. Both of the above points, and others, are explained on the Powys List webpage: www.jlb2011.co.uk/powyslist.htm Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Brecon, Mid-Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2011.co.uk Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) RootsWeb mailing lists -----Original Message----- From: Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 3:43 PM To: powys@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [POWYS] Plentiful Gates, Llananno Hello Shirley, I'll try the email address shown on your message. I have also written an account of Mary Mills' life history (I work in Word as I can fill out the bare bones that way). You are welcome to have it if you'd like it. Do you have anything else on your ancestor Sarah Mills? Or what became of Hugh Mills? When did he leave Upper Nanthir & where did he go? I expect he died there as he was b 1848 and was still there in 1916? Best wishes Patricia

But then I see that this William Nock was buried at Berriew in 1845... William Nock buried 14 Apr 1845 age 77 abode Llivior. On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Roderick Ward <rodericktward@gmail.com>wrote: > There is this baptism on Findmypast: > > William Nock, baptized 1 Dec 1768 in Berriew. Father Evan Nock, abode > Llifior. > > > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Tomi Larson <tomil23@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >> Hello, I am trying to find the parents of William Nock b. abt 1771 >> Montgomeryshire. He later married Elizabeth Davies of the township of >> Gwestydd. William had children William, Richard, Thomas, John, Evan, Mary, >> Martha. They seem to have been born in Llanllwchairan.I did find this: BMD >> birth William Nock 1772 Oct - Nov - Dec qrt Newtown vol 11b page 381BMD >> death William Nock 1843 Jan Feb Mar Newtown Vol 27 page 101but, I don't >> know if it's the same man. Can someone tell me how to go about finding more >> information? I'm stuck.Thank you, TomiPS I have joined the FHS in the past, >> but it didn't lead to any answers. >> >> >> >> =================== >> Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2011.co.uk/powyslist.htm >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >

There is this baptism on Findmypast: William Nock, baptized 1 Dec 1768 in Berriew. Father Evan Nock, abode Llifior. On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Tomi Larson <tomil23@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Hello, I am trying to find the parents of William Nock b. abt 1771 > Montgomeryshire. He later married Elizabeth Davies of the township of > Gwestydd. William had children William, Richard, Thomas, John, Evan, Mary, > Martha. They seem to have been born in Llanllwchairan.I did find this: BMD > birth William Nock 1772 Oct - Nov - Dec qrt Newtown vol 11b page 381BMD > death William Nock 1843 Jan Feb Mar Newtown Vol 27 page 101but, I don't > know if it's the same man. Can someone tell me how to go about finding more > information? I'm stuck.Thank you, TomiPS I have joined the FHS in the past, > but it didn't lead to any answers. > > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2011.co.uk/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello, I am trying to find the parents of William Nock b. abt 1771 Montgomeryshire. He later married Elizabeth Davies of the township of Gwestydd. William had children William, Richard, Thomas, John, Evan, Mary, Martha. They seem to have been born in Llanllwchairan.I did find this: BMD birth William Nock 1772 Oct - Nov - Dec qrt Newtown vol 11b page 381BMD death William Nock 1843 Jan Feb Mar Newtown Vol 27 page 101but, I don't know if it's the same man. Can someone tell me how to go about finding more information? I'm stuck.Thank you, TomiPS I have joined the FHS in the past, but it didn't lead to any answers.

Hello Patricia Sorry for the delay in responding ~ yes I have received your email thank you. I think we had better use our email addresses from now on as we have a lot of correspondence to exchange. Kind regards to all on the Powys mailing list. Shirley In a message dated 11/07/2012 11:39:37 GMT Daylight Time, gfpryc@aol.com writes: Thank you for this. I'm new to the list but will remember next time. Shirley, did you get the file I sent separately to your email address? I'm not sure how that works, whether it goes independently to your email or whether it goes through the list. Patricia -----Original Message----- From: FrostSES <FrostSES@aol.com> To: powys <powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 11:30 Subject: Re: [POWYS] Message from Admin Thank you John ~ it is good to have these reminders now and again, the memory is not as good as it was. Kind regards Shirley In a message dated 11/07/2012 10:14:50 GMT Daylight Time, john@jlb2011.co.uk writes: Patricia <gfpryc@aol.com> wrote: I tried to send you an account of my search for Plentiful Gates but Rootsweb rejected it as too large... =========================== Dear Listers, Seeing Patricia's problem has prompted me to remind all listers that RootsWeb mailing lists have a maximum allowable size for the messages distributed on the lists. Any message bigger than the maximum is rejected. For the Powys List the maximum is set at 40 kilobytes, so any message larger than this will not be distributed. Also, please remember that it is not possible to send attachments through the RootsWeb mailing list system. Messages with attached files will be rejected. Both of the above points, and others, are explained on the Powys List webpage: www.jlb2011.co.uk/powyslist.htm Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Brecon, Mid-Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2011.co.uk Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) RootsWeb mailing lists -----Original Message----- From: Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 3:43 PM To: powys@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [POWYS] Plentiful Gates, Llananno Hello Shirley, I'll try the email address shown on your message. I have also written an account of Mary Mills' life history (I work in Word as I can fill out the bare bones that way). You are welcome to have it if you'd like it. Do you have anything else on your ancestor Sarah Mills? Or what became of Hugh Mills? When did he leave Upper Nanthir & where did he go? I expect he died there as he was b 1848 and was still there in 1916? Best wishes Patricia =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2011.co.uk/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2011.co.uk/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2011.co.uk/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you for this. I'm new to the list but will remember next time. Shirley, did you get the file I sent separately to your email address? I'm not sure how that works, whether it goes independently to your email or whether it goes through the list. Patricia -----Original Message----- From: FrostSES <FrostSES@aol.com> To: powys <powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 11:30 Subject: Re: [POWYS] Message from Admin Thank you John ~ it is good to have these reminders now and again, the memory is not as good as it was. Kind regards Shirley In a message dated 11/07/2012 10:14:50 GMT Daylight Time, john@jlb2011.co.uk writes: Patricia <gfpryc@aol.com> wrote: I tried to send you an account of my search for Plentiful Gates but Rootsweb rejected it as too large... =========================== Dear Listers, Seeing Patricia's problem has prompted me to remind all listers that RootsWeb mailing lists have a maximum allowable size for the messages distributed on the lists. Any message bigger than the maximum is rejected. For the Powys List the maximum is set at 40 kilobytes, so any message larger than this will not be distributed. Also, please remember that it is not possible to send attachments through the RootsWeb mailing list system. Messages with attached files will be rejected. Both of the above points, and others, are explained on the Powys List webpage: www.jlb2011.co.uk/powyslist.htm Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Brecon, Mid-Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2011.co.uk Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) RootsWeb mailing lists -----Original Message----- From: Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 3:43 PM To: powys@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [POWYS] Plentiful Gates, Llananno Hello Shirley, I'll try the email address shown on your message. I have also written an account of Mary Mills' life history (I work in Word as I can fill out the bare bones that way). You are welcome to have it if you'd like it. Do you have anything else on your ancestor Sarah Mills? Or what became of Hugh Mills? When did he leave Upper Nanthir & where did he go? I expect he died there as he was b 1848 and was still there in 1916? Best wishes Patricia =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2011.co.uk/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2011.co.uk/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you John ~ it is good to have these reminders now and again, the memory is not as good as it was. Kind regards Shirley In a message dated 11/07/2012 10:14:50 GMT Daylight Time, john@jlb2011.co.uk writes: Patricia <gfpryc@aol.com> wrote: I tried to send you an account of my search for Plentiful Gates but Rootsweb rejected it as too large... =========================== Dear Listers, Seeing Patricia's problem has prompted me to remind all listers that RootsWeb mailing lists have a maximum allowable size for the messages distributed on the lists. Any message bigger than the maximum is rejected. For the Powys List the maximum is set at 40 kilobytes, so any message larger than this will not be distributed. Also, please remember that it is not possible to send attachments through the RootsWeb mailing list system. Messages with attached files will be rejected. Both of the above points, and others, are explained on the Powys List webpage: www.jlb2011.co.uk/powyslist.htm Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Brecon, Mid-Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2011.co.uk Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) RootsWeb mailing lists -----Original Message----- From: Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 3:43 PM To: powys@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [POWYS] Plentiful Gates, Llananno Hello Shirley, I'll try the email address shown on your message. I have also written an account of Mary Mills' life history (I work in Word as I can fill out the bare bones that way). You are welcome to have it if you'd like it. Do you have anything else on your ancestor Sarah Mills? Or what became of Hugh Mills? When did he leave Upper Nanthir & where did he go? I expect he died there as he was b 1848 and was still there in 1916? Best wishes Patricia =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2011.co.uk/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all Just joined this list to research the family of John BOWEN (1844 Llanfyllen - 1893) & Ellen UNKNOWN (1852 Llanrhaiader - aft 1911). They had 8 children according to the 1911c, and I have the details of the 7 who were still alive then. David - b1878 Meifod - aft 1911 Mariah - b 1880 Meifod - d 28 Mar 1953 (m Henry Treby HEALE and had 3 children) Richard Lewis - b 1882 Salop - possibly still alive after 1919 George - b 1885 Meifod - aft 1911 Charles - b 1886 Salop - aft 1935ish Gwen - b 1889 Salop - d 1978 Oswestry Margaret Ellen - b 1891 Hisland Shropshire - d 1963 Oswestry It is Charles (and his son, Rowland BOWEN) that my father and I are particularly interested in. Charles was sent to prison in 1932 for stealing from his clients - he was a solicitor. But what happened to him after that we cannot trace. Rowland wrote the definative book on the history of cricket. We have all the details that have been posted online on various websites. If anyone has any further information either of this immediate family or relations I'd be very happy to hear from you. Cheers Andy

Hello Shirley, I tried to send you an account of my search for Plentiful Gates but Rootsweb rejected it as too large, I'll try the email address shown on your message. I have also written an account of Mary Mills' life history (I work in Word as I can fill out the bare bones that way). You are welcome to have it if you'd like it. Do you have anything else on your ancestor Sarah Mills? Or what became of Hugh Mills? When did he leave Upper Nanthir & where did he go? I expect he died there as he was b 1848 and was still there in 1916? Best wishes Patricia -----Original Message----- From: FrostSES <FrostSES@aol.com> To: powys <powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 12:45 Subject: Re: [POWYS] Plentiful Gates, Llananno Hello Patricia I have various documents referring to my ancestor Sarah Mills (sister to your husband's Mary Mills) ~ I would be very interested to hear more about Mary, all I have is her marriage to David Morgan in 1900. Sarah Mills was born in 1858 at Upper Nanthir, Llannano Father John Mills mother Ann Mills nee Hughes. Hugh Mills (Sarah's brother) was born in 1847 at Upper House, Nantmel. Hugh Mills marriage address given as Upper Nanthir, Davidswell. Hugh Mills Will address was given as Upper Nant Hir, Llannano As you said Plentiful Gates and Upper Nanthir are next to each other in the Censuses ~ perhaps they were amalgamated? I have a photograph with the farm in the background and it doesn't look in very good repair. I'm sorry I don't have an old map of the area. Please let me know if I can help any further. Best wishes Shirley In a message dated 08/07/2012 22:46:09 GMT Daylight Time, gfpryc@aol.com writes: Hello Shirley, I have been trying to contact Margaret Harvey, ever since I found her information on Rootsweb (I think it was this site). Your message makes it clear why I could not. My husband is descended from John and Ann Mills' daughter Mary. She was quite a gal! And took a lot of finding. I look forward to hearing from you. In the meantime, I'll attach an account of my search for Plentiful Gates. Best wishes Patricia -----Original Message----- From: FrostSES <FrostSES@aol.com> To: powys <powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, 8 Jul 2012 9:53 Subject: Re: [POWYS] Plentiful Gates, Llananno Hi Patricia I am a descendant of John and Ann Mills and their daughter Sarah Mills. I am busy today and tomorrow morning but if you can bear with me I may be able to help you. My dear friend Margaret Harvey (RIP) descended from their son Hugh and Sarah I have a photograph of them ~ how are you connected please? Best wishes Shirley In a message dated 07/07/2012 22:35:19 GMT Daylight Time, gfpryc@aol.com writes: John and Ann Mills lived at a farm called Plentiful Gates, Upper Fordlace, Llananno from before 1861 until towards 1891, when their son Hugh Mills took over. Hugh and his wife Sarah were still there in 1916. However, I cannot locate its exact position. The 1881 census lists the farms in the area: Hugh is living at Upper Nanthir and his father John at Plentiful Gates. They are listed next to one another. Was it at Upper Nanthir? I have maps of the area including old ones. Fford-Las, Nanthir and Upper Nanthir are there but no Plentiful Gates. It can't simply have disappeared, or can it? I know that many buildings were demolished in the middle years of the C20. I have visited the area but could not locate it. Please can anyone help? Patricia Pryce =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2011.co.uk/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2011.co.uk/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2011.co.uk/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have a Sarah Vaughan born about 1813 in St. Harman, Rad. Married Evan Edwards 28 Sept.1865. No further information. Daphne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vic Vaughan" <vjvaughan@cogeco.ca> To: <powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [POWYS] Llewynoyadd Farm, Radnorshire > My Vaughan"s start at Maryann Vaughan 1838 she had afair with Nehemeah > Griffiths 1840 they had Jonathan Vaughan 1865 who Maried Margaret Jones > Her > mother was Carolina Price and that is all ihave on the vaughan:s > sure like to now who Maryann perents are > vjvaughan@cogeco.ca > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <gfpryc@aol.com> > To: <powys@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 9:55 AM > Subject: Re: [POWYS] Llewynoyadd Farm, Radnorshire > > >> Thank you. I am also researching the Ingrams, many of whom carried >> Vaughan as their middle name. The name goes back to Elizabeth Vaughan >> who married Thomas Ingram somewhere around 1807. Elizabeth Vaughan was >> born in Nantmel, Radnor, Thomas was born in St Harmon. Are they your >> ancestors?

Hello Patricia I have various documents referring to my ancestor Sarah Mills (sister to your husband's Mary Mills) ~ I would be very interested to hear more about Mary, all I have is her marriage to David Morgan in 1900. Sarah Mills was born in 1858 at Upper Nanthir, Llannano Father John Mills mother Ann Mills nee Hughes. Hugh Mills (Sarah's brother) was born in 1847 at Upper House, Nantmel. Hugh Mills marriage address given as Upper Nanthir, Davidswell. Hugh Mills Will address was given as Upper Nant Hir, Llannano As you said Plentiful Gates and Upper Nanthir are next to each other in the Censuses ~ perhaps they were amalgamated? I have a photograph with the farm in the background and it doesn't look in very good repair. I'm sorry I don't have an old map of the area. Please let me know if I can help any further. Best wishes Shirley In a message dated 08/07/2012 22:46:09 GMT Daylight Time, gfpryc@aol.com writes: Hello Shirley, I have been trying to contact Margaret Harvey, ever since I found her information on Rootsweb (I think it was this site). Your message makes it clear why I could not. My husband is descended from John and Ann Mills' daughter Mary. She was quite a gal! And took a lot of finding. I look forward to hearing from you. In the meantime, I'll attach an account of my search for Plentiful Gates. Best wishes Patricia -----Original Message----- From: FrostSES <FrostSES@aol.com> To: powys <powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, 8 Jul 2012 9:53 Subject: Re: [POWYS] Plentiful Gates, Llananno Hi Patricia I am a descendant of John and Ann Mills and their daughter Sarah Mills. I am busy today and tomorrow morning but if you can bear with me I may be able to help you. My dear friend Margaret Harvey (RIP) descended from their son Hugh and Sarah I have a photograph of them ~ how are you connected please? Best wishes Shirley In a message dated 07/07/2012 22:35:19 GMT Daylight Time, gfpryc@aol.com writes: John and Ann Mills lived at a farm called Plentiful Gates, Upper Fordlace, Llananno from before 1861 until towards 1891, when their son Hugh Mills took over. Hugh and his wife Sarah were still there in 1916. However, I cannot locate its exact position. The 1881 census lists the farms in the area: Hugh is living at Upper Nanthir and his father John at Plentiful Gates. They are listed next to one another. Was it at Upper Nanthir? I have maps of the area including old ones. Fford-Las, Nanthir and Upper Nanthir are there but no Plentiful Gates. It can't simply have disappeared, or can it? I know that many buildings were demolished in the middle years of the C20. I have visited the area but could not locate it. Please can anyone help? Patricia Pryce =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2011.co.uk/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2011.co.uk/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Shirley, I have been trying to contact Margaret Harvey, ever since I found her information on Rootsweb (I think it was this site). Your message makes it clear why I could not. My husband is descended from John and Ann Mills' daughter Mary. She was quite a gal! And took a lot of finding. I look forward to hearing from you. In the meantime, I'll attach an account of my search for Plentiful Gates. Best wishes Patricia -----Original Message----- From: FrostSES <FrostSES@aol.com> To: powys <powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, 8 Jul 2012 9:53 Subject: Re: [POWYS] Plentiful Gates, Llananno Hi Patricia I am a descendant of John and Ann Mills and their daughter Sarah Mills. I am busy today and tomorrow morning but if you can bear with me I may be able to help you. My dear friend Margaret Harvey (RIP) descended from their son Hugh and Sarah I have a photograph of them ~ how are you connected please? Best wishes Shirley In a message dated 07/07/2012 22:35:19 GMT Daylight Time, gfpryc@aol.com writes: John and Ann Mills lived at a farm called Plentiful Gates, Upper Fordlace, Llananno from before 1861 until towards 1891, when their son Hugh Mills took over. Hugh and his wife Sarah were still there in 1916. However, I cannot locate its exact position. The 1881 census lists the farms in the area: Hugh is living at Upper Nanthir and his father John at Plentiful Gates. They are listed next to one another. Was it at Upper Nanthir? I have maps of the area including old ones. Fford-Las, Nanthir and Upper Nanthir are there but no Plentiful Gates. It can't simply have disappeared, or can it? I know that many buildings were demolished in the middle years of the C20. I have visited the area but could not locate it. Please can anyone help? Patricia Pryce =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2011.co.uk/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message