John, Following on from your note on the Brecon Railways Exhibition On an investigative trip to the Sennybridge area I was told of the failed attempt to build a connection from the Brecon/Swansea line to connect with Builth Wells, apparently the money ran out when difficult tunnelling was experienced up the Cillenni valley, they just closed off the tunnel and left everything buried, whatever that means. I wonder if the Breconshire Local & Family History Society (BLFHS) could confirm this and the likely date Regards Roger M Evans

Dear Listers, The Breconshire Local & Family History Society (BLFHS) has announced the opening of an exhibition of photographs and maps commemorating the 50th anniversary of the closure of railway passenger services in Brecon. I quote from the BLFHS website: ------------------ Brecon Railways Exhibition Brecon Library – throughout January 2013 Railway passenger services in Brecon ended in December 1962. To commemorate the 50th anniversary of the closure of Brecon's passenger railways we are running an exhibition of 'then and now' photographs in Brecon Library, Ship Street, Brecon. The exhibition is curated by BLFHS Committee Member Rob Eckley, who has provided many of the photographs. Please drop in and explore the photographs for yourself. We hope they will evoke happy memories of the railways in and around Brecon. ------------------ Further details are on the News page of the BLFHS website: www.blfhs.co.uk/ Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Brecon, Mid-Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2011.co.uk Personal Homepage: http://www.jlb2011.co.uk Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2011.co.uk/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2011.co.uk/wales/ Joint Webmaster, Breconshire Local & Family History Society http://www.blfhs.co.uk/ GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) RootsWeb mailing lists

Powys List Activity Stats - December 2012 Dear Listers, In December 2012, 62 messages were distributed via the Powys List (the monthly average for the year was 52). Currently there are 412 members subscribed to the Powys List, one less than last month's figure. The monthly and annual stats from 1998 to the present are displayed on the Powys List webpage at www.jlb2011.co.uk/powyslist.htm#stats Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Brecon, Mid-Wales, UK Administrator - Powys RootsWeb mailing list E-mail: john@jlb2011.co.uk Personal Website: http://www.jlb2011.co.uk/ Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2011.co.uk/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2011.co.uk/wales/ Joint Webmaster - Breconshire Local & Family History Society http://www.blfhs.c.uk/ GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/

Hello Margaret and List, Yes, I do believe you found Elizabeth and John in Montour County! Thank you!!I'm starting to wonder if they did indeed have children.....I haven't found any. However, I also wondered about the Thomas Davis as John's son ... but at 21 he would have been born 5 years before John's marriage in 1834. He would also be a bit young to be John's brother. Still, there could be a relationship..... I have no idea who the Hughes family is with William and Sarah Prosser on the 1850 Bloom, Columbia Co census either. Looking at the ages of the Hughes, perhaps Mary Hughes could be a daughter of John and Elizabeth Davies.... I will look at the Hughes more closely to see what turns up. I thank you so much for taking the time to help out. I am sure you've found the correct John an Elizabeth in 1850. Tomi > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2013 12:18:01 -0500 > From: Peggy Sue <pretty.peggy.sue@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [POWYS] Children of John Davies > To: powys@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CABAvk-0x+ogLS6PcNAiKo9-VBH12gWY+4vWt_g1jJB_hGN0okg@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > Hello, > > I've been chipping away at this problem for a couple of days, didn't have > enough time to stick with it straight through. I'll include links at the > end of the message, but here is a summary. If you already have these first > two records, I apologize, but I didn't want to leave them out.: > > I found Wm and Sarah Prosser in the 1850 census in Bloom, Columbia, PA. > > Also, possibly Elizabeth's sister, although the husband's name is wrong. > But the names of the children, taken together, seem to fit this family. > They too are in Bloom. > > I found a candidate for John and Elizabeth in Montour County, PA, which was > formed from Columbia in 1850. His age is a little off, but her's looks > right. Unfortunately, there are no children listed. This location in > Montour Co., isn't too far from Bloom (Bloomsburg), Columbia Co. I've > provided a link to an 1850s map of the two counties. Bloomsburg is a > little yellow area in the middle of Columbia Co. Also, the > pagenweb.orgWeb site, similar to Genuki, has information about the two > counties. > > On the same page, there?s a Thos Davis, 21, puddler, born in Wales, > possible son of John and Elizabeth? > > Here are the links: > > 1850 > > > > Bloom, Columbia County, Pennsylvania > > http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=8054&iid=4204711_00310&fn=Sarah&ln=Prosser&st=r&ssrc=&pid=373394 > > Family number 218 > > > > Thomas Hughes<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenancestry&indiv=try&h=373389>, > 27 > > Mary Hughes<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenancestry&indiv=try&h=373390>, > 30 > > Mary Hughes<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenancestry&indiv=try&h=373391>, > 3 > > Mary A Hughes<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenancestry&indiv=try&h=373392>, > 0 > > *Wm Prosser<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenancestry&indiv=try&h=373393>, > 73* > > *Sarah Prosser<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenancestry&indiv=try&h=373394>, > 71* > > > > http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=8054&iid=4204711_00312&fn=Henry&ln=Lewis&st=r&ssrc=&pid=372846 > > > > Family number 232 > > > > Andrew Lewis<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenancestry&indiv=try&h=372842>, > 40 > > *Mary Lewis<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenancestry&indiv=try&h=372843> > ,* 35 > > Thomas Lewis<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenancestry&indiv=try&h=372844>, > 12 > > Phoebe Lewis<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenancestry&indiv=try&h=372845>, > 11 > > Henry Lewis<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenancestry&indiv=try&h=372846>, > 9 > > Wm Lewis<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenancestry&indiv=try&h=372847>, > 4 > > Sarah Lewis<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenancestry&indiv=try&h=372848>, > 2 > > Eliz Lewis<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenancestry&indiv=try&h=372849>, > 1 > > > > Mahoning, Montour County, Pennsylvania > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11933-133700-2?cc=1401638&wc=MMY6-MXW:n1171268559 > > > > *John Davis<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenancestry&indiv=try&h=4738683>, > 45* > > *Eliz Davis<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenancestry&indiv=try&h=4738684>, > 40* > > > > On the same page, there?s a Thos Davis, 21, puddler, born in Wales, > possible son of John and Elizabeth? > > > > *Thos Davis<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenancestry&indiv=try&h=4738669>, > 21* > > Lewis Huntingdon<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenancestry&indiv=try&h=4738670>, > 23 > > Sarah Davis<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenancestry&indiv=try&h=4738671>, > 19 > > > > 1850 map Columbia and Montour counties: > http://www.phmc.state.pa.us/bah/dam/mg/di/m011/PDFs/m011Map0796_ColumbiaMontourCounties.pdf > > > > Montour County, pagenweb.org: http://www.pagenweb.org/~montour/ > > Let me know if you think I'm on the right track. Also, do you have any > names for John and Elizabeth's children? > > Happy New Year, > Margaret > New Jersey, USA

Happy New Year to you all. May some of our brick walls come tumbling down! Ann. . Sent: Wednesday, 2 January 2013, 10:07 Subject: Re: [POWYS] Happy New Year! Happy New Year to you all and happy Ancestor-hunting. Liz connected to -  frustratingly - Jones, Davies, Evans - in and around Pont Robert, Meifod, Llanfechin, Llangyniew..... - and ultimately, Madeley in Shropshire. At 17:30 01/01/2013, John Ball wrote: >A (slightly late) Very Happy New Year to all Powys Listers. > >I hope you have a genealogically productive 2013, but do let the >List community know of your successes as well as your problems. > >Kind regards, > > >John Ball Elizabeth Lane. Worthing, West Sussex.   =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2011.co.uk/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Happy New Year to you all and happy Ancestor-hunting. Liz connected to - frustratingly - Jones, Davies, Evans - in and around Pont Robert, Meifod, Llanfechin, Llangyniew..... - and ultimately, Madeley in Shropshire. At 17:30 01/01/2013, John Ball wrote: >A (slightly late) Very Happy New Year to all Powys Listers. > >I hope you have a genealogically productive 2013, but do let the >List community know of your successes as well as your problems. > >Kind regards, > > >John Ball >List administrator >john@jlb2011.co.uk Elizabeth Lane. Worthing, West Sussex. liz_lane@ntlworld.com

Genuki gives Cemais/Cemmaes in Montgomeryshire. See http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/MGY/Cemais/index.html On 01/01/13, Mike Powell <mdpowell@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm looking for some help with the location of the parish of Llanddwywa. > > I am searching for Jane Owens born c. 1800 and am using www.findmypast.com. I can find what looks like the record I want. It is part of the Powys FHS collection and gives the place of baptism as Cemais. Genuki says that Cemais is in Monmouthsire, which looks odd to me, as I was expecting Montgomeryshire. Looking at the image I can see the entry I want: > > "Jane d. of Owen Owens & Gwen his wife Jan'ry 26 (1800)" > > … and this is within the section "Llanddwywa baptisms 1800". This time Genuki suggests LLlanddwywau (Llanddwywe) as a possibility. But this is in Merionethshire. > > I am now confused whether the parish is Cemais or Llanddwywa and whether it is really in Montgomeryshire. > > Your wisdom appreciated. > > Mike Powell > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2011.co.uk/powyslist.htm >   > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

The same to you John. Look forward to more genealogy in this New Year of 2013. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Ball" <john@jlb2011.co.uk> To: <powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 5:30 PM Subject: [POWYS] Happy New Year! >A (slightly late) Very Happy New Year to all Powys Listers. > > I hope you have a genealogically productive 2013, but do let the List > community know of your successes as well as your problems. > > Kind regards, > > > John Ball > List administrator > john@jlb2011.co.uk > > Sent from my iPad > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2011.co.uk/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

A (slightly late) Very Happy New Year to all Powys Listers. I hope you have a genealogically productive 2013, but do let the List community know of your successes as well as your problems. Kind regards, John Ball List administrator john@jlb2011.co.uk Sent from my iPad

Happy 2012 listers! Best wishes for an exceptional year. Margaret New Jersey, USA On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 12:30 PM, John Ball <john@jlb2011.co.uk> wrote: > A (slightly late) Very Happy New Year to all Powys Listers. > > I hope you have a genealogically productive 2013, but do let the List > community know of your successes as well as your problems. > > Kind regards, > > > John Ball > List administrator > john@jlb2011.co.uk > > Sent from my iPad > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2011.co.uk/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- Luzerne County, Pennsylvania: AMOS, CHARLES, DAVIES, FISHER, HENRY, PRICE, RAUGH/ROUGH, REESE, WAGNER Brecknockshire (Breconshire): HAMON (?) Monmouthshire: AMOS/HAMON, REES Glamorganshire: DAVIS/DAVIES, COLLINS (also Ireland), REESE Cardiganshire: GRIFFITHS, THOMAS Holland and Germany: UPDYKE, DIETRICH, GRANTZ

Hello, I've been chipping away at this problem for a couple of days, didn't have enough time to stick with it straight through. I'll include links at the end of the message, but here is a summary. If you already have these first two records, I apologize, but I didn't want to leave them out.: I found Wm and Sarah Prosser in the 1850 census in Bloom, Columbia, PA. Also, possibly Elizabeth's sister, although the husband's name is wrong. But the names of the children, taken together, seem to fit this family. They too are in Bloom. I found a candidate for John and Elizabeth in Montour County, PA, which was formed from Columbia in 1850. His age is a little off, but her's looks right. Unfortunately, there are no children listed. This location in Montour Co., isn't too far from Bloom (Bloomsburg), Columbia Co. I've provided a link to an 1850s map of the two counties. Bloomsburg is a little yellow area in the middle of Columbia Co. Also, the pagenweb.orgWeb site, similar to Genuki, has information about the two counties. On the same page, there’s a Thos Davis, 21, puddler, born in Wales, possible son of John and Elizabeth? Here are the links: 1850 Bloom, Columbia County, Pennsylvania http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=8054&iid=4204711_00310&fn=Sarah&ln=Prosser&st=r&ssrc=&pid=373394 Family number 218 Thomas Hughes<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenancestry&indiv=try&h=373389>, 27 Mary Hughes<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenancestry&indiv=try&h=373390>, 30 Mary Hughes<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenancestry&indiv=try&h=373391>, 3 Mary A Hughes<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenancestry&indiv=try&h=373392>, 0 *Wm Prosser<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenancestry&indiv=try&h=373393>, 73* *Sarah Prosser<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenancestry&indiv=try&h=373394>, 71* http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=8054&iid=4204711_00312&fn=Henry&ln=Lewis&st=r&ssrc=&pid=372846 Family number 232 Andrew Lewis<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenancestry&indiv=try&h=372842>, 40 *Mary Lewis<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenancestry&indiv=try&h=372843> ,* 35 Thomas Lewis<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenancestry&indiv=try&h=372844>, 12 Phoebe Lewis<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenancestry&indiv=try&h=372845>, 11 Henry Lewis<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenancestry&indiv=try&h=372846>, 9 Wm Lewis<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenancestry&indiv=try&h=372847>, 4 Sarah Lewis<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenancestry&indiv=try&h=372848>, 2 Eliz Lewis<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenancestry&indiv=try&h=372849>, 1 Mahoning, Montour County, Pennsylvania https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11933-133700-2?cc=1401638&wc=MMY6-MXW:n1171268559 *John Davis<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenancestry&indiv=try&h=4738683>, 45* *Eliz Davis<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenancestry&indiv=try&h=4738684>, 40* On the same page, there’s a Thos Davis, 21, puddler, born in Wales, possible son of John and Elizabeth? *Thos Davis<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenancestry&indiv=try&h=4738669>, 21* Lewis Huntingdon<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenancestry&indiv=try&h=4738670>, 23 Sarah Davis<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1850usfedcenancestry&indiv=try&h=4738671>, 19 1850 map Columbia and Montour counties: http://www.phmc.state.pa.us/bah/dam/mg/di/m011/PDFs/m011Map0796_ColumbiaMontourCounties.pdf Montour County, pagenweb.org: http://www.pagenweb.org/~montour/ Let me know if you think I'm on the right track. Also, do you have any names for John and Elizabeth's children? Happy New Year, Margaret New Jersey, USA On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 8:21 AM, Tomi Larson <tomil23@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hello Eliz and List, > Yes, John and Elizabeth are lost in 1850. > I found them on the 1860 US Census:1860 US Census, Bloom, Columbia Co, PA > Image 23 > Elizabeth age 50 and John Davies age 53 (Davis) > and Sarah Prosser age 76 -Eliz's mother (All born Wales) > Birthplace: Wales > Bloom, Columbia Co, PA > Post Office: Bloomsburg > Note the name is spelled Davis in 1860. > As you can see, in 1860 there are no children listed with Elizabeth and > John, only her mother, Sarah Prosser. Elizabeth and John were married in 2 > Nov 1834 in Llanelly, BRE. I believe they emigrated around 1840-1844. There > is an Elizabeth Prosser (not Davies) on the same ship Pocahontas arriving > Aug 1844 Philadelphia. Elizabeth's parents, William and Sarah Prosser, are > on this ship. Also, Mary (Prosser) Lewis, Elizabeth's sister. So, this > could be Elizabeth Davies, known as Prosser on the ship manifest. Age 30 is > about right for her. But, there is only one page to this manifest and no > Davies children present. > John is not on this page, but neither is Mary Prosser Lewis's husband, > Henry, so perhaps the brother-in-laws came to America earlier...... > Between the emigration time and the 1860 census, I can't find Elizabeth > and John Davies. They almost surely lived in in a county of Pennsylvania > not far from the 1860 abode of Columbia Co. > I appreciate any assistance in locating Elizabeth and John and any > children before or after 1860. > Tomi > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Eliz Hanebury <elizhgene@gmail.com> > > To: powys <powys@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:42 am > > Subject: Re: [POWYS] Children of John Davies > > > > > > Have you found John and Elizabeth in the US? It is easy to lose a > > family in the years before 1850. > > > > > > > > Eliz > > > > On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 6:28 PM, Tomi Larson <tomil23@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > I need help in finding any children of John Davies b. abt 1810 and > > > Elizabeth > > Prosser b. abt 1810. They married in Llanelly, BRE 2 Nov 1834. John and > > Elizabeth emigrated to Pennsylvania around 1841. I haven't found any > trace > > of > > children in America. Elizabeth's father was William Prosser of Glasbury, > BRE > > and > > her grandfather was Evan Prosser of Llowes, RAD. I don't have parents for > > John > > Davies. > > > Thank you!Tomi > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2011.co.uk/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- Luzerne County, Pennsylvania: AMOS, CHARLES, DAVIES, FISHER, HENRY, PRICE, RAUGH/ROUGH, REESE, WAGNER Brecknockshire (Breconshire): HAMON (?) Monmouthshire: AMOS/HAMON, REES Glamorganshire: DAVIS/DAVIES, COLLINS (also Ireland), REESE Cardiganshire: GRIFFITHS, THOMAS Holland and Germany: UPDYKE, DIETRICH, GRANTZ

maps.google suggests that it is Cemmaes, Powys SY20 currently. The county changes are so confusing to me and I don't have an animap to plot them for me <>G Eliz On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Mike Powell <mdpowell@gmail.com> wrote: > I am searching for Jane Owens born c. 1800 and am using www.findmypast.com. I can find what looks like the record I want. It is part of the Powys FHS collection and gives the place of baptism as Cemais. Genuki says that Cemais is in Monmouthsire, which looks odd to me, as I was expecting Montgomeryshire. Looking at the image I can see the entry I want: -- Eliz Not Today and Not without a Fight (unknown to me) For all that has been, thanks. For all that will be, yes. (Dag Hammarskjold)

Have you checked the census with familysearch? Sometimes you can find names there that can't be found on Ancestry or HQ. Also is the Mary Davis on the Pocahontas related? Or could they just have been careless in the manifest? Things were not so formal then and people could pretty much come and go as they please. Eliz On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 8:21 AM, Tomi Larson <tomil23@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hello Eliz and List, > Yes, John and Elizabeth are lost in 1850. > I found them on the 1860 US Census:1860 US Census, Bloom, Columbia Co, PA Image 23 > Elizabeth age 50 and John Davies age 53 (Davis) > and Sarah Prosser age 76 -Eliz's mother (All born Wales) > Birthplace: Wales > Bloom, Columbia Co, PA > Post Office: Bloomsburg > Note the name is spelled Davis in 1860. > As you can see, in 1860 there are no children listed with Elizabeth and John, only her mother, Sarah Prosser. Elizabeth and John were married in 2 Nov 1834 in Llanelly, BRE. I believe they emigrated around 1840-1844. There is an Elizabeth Prosser (not Davies) on the same ship Pocahontas arriving Aug 1844 Philadelphia. Elizabeth's parents, William and Sarah Prosser, are on this ship. Also, Mary (Prosser) Lewis, Elizabeth's sister. So, this could be Elizabeth Davies, known as Prosser on the ship manifest. Age 30 is about right for her. But, there is only one page to this manifest and no Davies children present. > John is not on this page, but neither is Mary Prosser Lewis's husband, Henry, so perhaps the brother-in-laws came to America earlier...... > Between the emigration time and the 1860 census, I can't find Elizabeth and John Davies. They almost surely lived in in a county of Pennsylvania not far from the 1860 abode of Columbia Co. > I appreciate any assistance in locating Elizabeth and John and any children before or after 1860. > Tomi > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Eliz Hanebury <elizhgene@gmail.com> >> To: powys <powys@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:42 am >> Subject: Re: [POWYS] Children of John Davies >> >> >> Have you found John and Elizabeth in the US? It is easy to lose a >> family in the years before 1850. >> >> >> >> Eliz >> >> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 6:28 PM, Tomi Larson <tomil23@hotmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > Hello, >> > I need help in finding any children of John Davies b. abt 1810 and >> > Elizabeth >> Prosser b. abt 1810. They married in Llanelly, BRE 2 Nov 1834. John and >> Elizabeth emigrated to Pennsylvania around 1841. I haven't found any trace >> of >> children in America. Elizabeth's father was William Prosser of Glasbury, BRE >> and >> her grandfather was Evan Prosser of Llowes, RAD. I don't have parents for >> John >> Davies. >> > Thank you!Tomi > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2011.co.uk/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Eliz Not Today and Not without a Fight (unknown to me) For all that has been, thanks. For all that will be, yes. (Dag Hammarskjold)

Re John and Elizabeth Davies: One other thing I found is that John and Elizabeth were witnesses to her sister's wedding, Mary Prosser to Henry Lewis, in Aberystruth, 1835. So perhaps they were living in MON when they had children.....Tomi > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 11:41:16 -0500 > From: Eliz Hanebury <elizhgene@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [POWYS] Children of John Davies > To: powys@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CA+TOumh2qbH-i_QkM5WOjzpx5qJDaPoKmSxV-e8nMWG9NTEZBQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Have you found John and Elizabeth in the US? It is easy to lose a > family in the years before 1850. > > > > Eliz > > On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 6:28 PM, Tomi Larson <tomil23@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hello, > > I need help in finding any children of John Davies b. abt 1810 and Elizabeth Prosser b. abt 1810. They married in Llanelly, BRE 2 Nov 1834. John and Elizabeth emigrated to Pennsylvania around 1841. I haven't found any trace of children in America. Elizabeth's father was William Prosser of Glasbury, BRE and her grandfather was Evan Prosser of Llowes, RAD. I don't have parents for John Davies. > > Thank you!Tomi > *************************************

I'm looking for some help with the location of the parish of Llanddwywa. I am searching for Jane Owens born c. 1800 and am using www.findmypast.com. I can find what looks like the record I want. It is part of the Powys FHS collection and gives the place of baptism as Cemais. Genuki says that Cemais is in Monmouthsire, which looks odd to me, as I was expecting Montgomeryshire. Looking at the image I can see the entry I want: "Jane d. of Owen Owens & Gwen his wife Jan'ry 26 (1800)" … and this is within the section "Llanddwywa baptisms 1800". This time Genuki suggests LLlanddwywau (Llanddwywe) as a possibility. But this is in Merionethshire. I am now confused whether the parish is Cemais or Llanddwywa and whether it is really in Montgomeryshire. Your wisdom appreciated. Mike Powell

Hello Eliz and List, Yes, John and Elizabeth are lost in 1850. I found them on the 1860 US Census:1860 US Census, Bloom, Columbia Co, PA Image 23 Elizabeth age 50 and John Davies age 53 (Davis) and Sarah Prosser age 76 -Eliz's mother (All born Wales) Birthplace: Wales Bloom, Columbia Co, PA Post Office: Bloomsburg Note the name is spelled Davis in 1860. As you can see, in 1860 there are no children listed with Elizabeth and John, only her mother, Sarah Prosser. Elizabeth and John were married in 2 Nov 1834 in Llanelly, BRE. I believe they emigrated around 1840-1844. There is an Elizabeth Prosser (not Davies) on the same ship Pocahontas arriving Aug 1844 Philadelphia. Elizabeth's parents, William and Sarah Prosser, are on this ship. Also, Mary (Prosser) Lewis, Elizabeth's sister. So, this could be Elizabeth Davies, known as Prosser on the ship manifest. Age 30 is about right for her. But, there is only one page to this manifest and no Davies children present. John is not on this page, but neither is Mary Prosser Lewis's husband, Henry, so perhaps the brother-in-laws came to America earlier...... Between the emigration time and the 1860 census, I can't find Elizabeth and John Davies. They almost surely lived in in a county of Pennsylvania not far from the 1860 abode of Columbia Co. I appreciate any assistance in locating Elizabeth and John and any children before or after 1860. Tomi > -----Original Message----- > From: Eliz Hanebury <elizhgene@gmail.com> > To: powys <powys@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:42 am > Subject: Re: [POWYS] Children of John Davies > > > Have you found John and Elizabeth in the US? It is easy to lose a > family in the years before 1850. > > > > Eliz > > On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 6:28 PM, Tomi Larson <tomil23@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hello, > > I need help in finding any children of John Davies b. abt 1810 and > > Elizabeth > Prosser b. abt 1810. They married in Llanelly, BRE 2 Nov 1834. John and > Elizabeth emigrated to Pennsylvania around 1841. I haven't found any trace > of > children in America. Elizabeth's father was William Prosser of Glasbury, BRE > and > her grandfather was Evan Prosser of Llowes, RAD. I don't have parents for > John > Davies. > > Thank you!Tomi

GB records, I have the USA covered, but am sadly lacking on GB Sherman G. Richmond -----Original Message----- From: Lynne Ingalls <lynne.ingalls@comcast.net> To: powys <powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Dec 30, 2012 5:37 pm Subject: Re: [POWYS] Children of John Davies What is it you wanted to know abt. Phillip, Sherman? U.S. records or G.B. records? Lynne -----Original Message----- From: Sherman G. Richmond Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 6:34 PM To: powys@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [POWYS] Children of John Davies Yes, this is my family line, he married my Grandmother. He was killed in a mine explosion in Roslyn Washington, in 1892, along with 45 others. This is quite a story in local lore. My Grandmother remarried, with 3 children from Phillip, and from there spring I, from the second marrige. Sherman G. Richmond

Yes, this is my family line, he married my Grandmother. He was killed in a mine explosion in Roslyn Washington, in 1892, along with 45 others. This is quite a story in local lore. My Grandmother remarried, with 3 children from Phillip, and from there spring I, from the second marrige. Sherman G. Richmond -----Original Message----- From: Lynne Ingalls <lynne.ingalls@comcast.net> To: powys <powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Dec 30, 2012 5:26 pm Subject: Re: [POWYS] Children of John Davies Sherman - There is a Phillip Davis (29), coal miner, b. in Wales listed on the 1880 census (available free on FamilySearch.org) living in Wabash, Indiana with his wife Elizabeth (who was born in Pennsylvania), his son David (1), and his father Andrew (56, also b. in Wales). Lynne in Tucson -----Original Message----- From: Sherman G. Richmond Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 5:02 PM To: powys@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [POWYS] Children of John Davies Would you be interested in a Phillip D. Davies born 1850 Aberanum Wales, came to USA in 1870. Father was Andrew Davies. Please let me know. Sherman G. Richmond -----Original Message----- From: Eliz Hanebury <elizhgene@gmail.com> To: powys <powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:42 am Subject: Re: [POWYS] Children of John Davies Have you found John and Elizabeth in the US? It is easy to lose a family in the years before 1850. Eliz On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 6:28 PM, Tomi Larson <tomil23@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Hello, > I need help in finding any children of John Davies b. abt 1810 and > Elizabeth Prosser b. abt 1810. They married in Llanelly, BRE 2 Nov 1834. John and Elizabeth emigrated to Pennsylvania around 1841. I haven't found any trace of children in America. Elizabeth's father was William Prosser of Glasbury, BRE and her grandfather was Evan Prosser of Llowes, RAD. I don't have parents for John Davies. > Thank you!Tomi > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2011.co.uk/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Eliz Not Today and Not without a Fight (unknown to me) For all that has been, thanks. For all that will be, yes. (Dag Hammarskjold) =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2011.co.uk/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2011.co.uk/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2011.co.uk/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hoping to find others researching my family. Richard DAVIES born Llangurig abt 1812 married Mary (surname unknown). This Richard was widowed in 1881 and living in Glynbrochan (farmer of 160 acres) with 2 unmarried children. Their eldest son Richard (b1832 Llangurig - 1918 Trefeglwys) is my gt gt gt grandfather. Richard married Mary (surname also Davies) and had 10 children: Mary Jane b1861, Richard b1864, John b 1866, Margaret b 1868, Elizabeth (Lizzie) b 1871, Matilda (Tille) b1873, Ellen Louise (Nellie) b1876, and Thomas Edward b 1882. By 1871 the family were living in Bodaioch Hall in Trefeglwys, raising sheep. Thomas' daughter Mary still lives there. Richard and Mary's eldest daughter Mary Jane married Richard EDWARDS in 1881 and had 3 children - Mary Eleanor (aka Nellie m Llew Mills no issue), Richard Asaph and John Ernest (my gt grandfather). The two boys emigrated to Australia and had 2 (both living) and 8 (3 living incl my grandmother aged 91yrs) children respectively. When Richard snr died in 1897 Mary Jane married his nephew John Henry Davies and had 2 more children - Gwladys Myfanwy (m Charles Ioworth Evans no issue) and Cecil Edgar (m Adeline Breed no issue). This family lived in Talgarth House in Llanidloes. I'm having lots of trouble tracing marriages/issue/deaths of Mary Jane's siblings. I know that Thomas married Anna Mary Owen. I believe Lizzie married James Fulcher and Nellie married Evan Evans, but can't confirm these hunches as yet. For the others I have no marriages or deaths. Please contact me if you know anything of this family! Any bit of info would be helpful - contact with actual family members thrilling!!!!! Sharon Newcastle Australia

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