Dear list, I wonder if anyone has any thoughts on the naming pattern. Would you expect the first son born to a couple to be the name of the father's father. Then the name of the first daughter born to be the name of the mother's mother etc. Richard Jenkins married Ann Moss at Bedwelty in 1800. The first son born 1801 was called George therefore can I safely assume that the father of Richard Jenkins was called George Jenkins? thank you Diana

Andrew, Did any of the family migrate to the US, specifically New York State? My names match yours but the homestead that I have is Penarth Farm, Llanfair Caerinion. My family is as follows: David Price B. abt 1874 (Immigrated to Us ( Marshall Township, Oneida County, New York) in 1838, June 12 along with Thomas Price and family. Apparently at that time he was a widower) He was the Uncle to my ancestor Thomas Price. Believe he may have had at least two sons, David ( b.abt 1819) and Owen (b abt. 1812). I have not found his Wales information. I also do not have a date of death, place of death or burial site for this David. Thomas Price was the nephew to David. b. abt 1805 and married an Elizateth( b. abt 1810) in 1836. They had several children. If this ties in with your information, I have more on Thomas, but not more on David. Sue in Ohio > [Original Message] > From: Andrew Price <mailgroups@price.ac> > To: <powys@rootsweb.com> > Date: 6/20/2007 6:36:58 PM > Subject: [POWYS] Am I assuming too much - Price, Llangamarch > > My 3xG/Grandfather was David Price, He was born about 1785 in Llangamarch > and lived and died at Gwebedog, Tirabad. He's buried in the Gelynos > cemetery just outside Llanwrtyd Wells. Very little else is known of his > origins other than the fact that his appearances on the census returns > describe him as a mason. He was "chapel" and no other records have been > found. > > He was married on 27th December 1816 in Llangamarch. The BT's give his > residence at the time as "Tir Garw". > > His gravestone in Gelynos is photographed here: > http://www.mypicshare.com/hyhquarxpic.html > > The adjoining grave is for David & Sarah Price: > http://www.mypicshare.com/7u6sfsbtpic.html > > The two stones are separate from all the others and do appear to be "paired" > together. The conclusion that I'm keen to make is that they are father and > son. > > The rest of the cemetery is peppered with Price's. I've reconstructed many > of the families: > http://www.mypicshare.com/nlrcli4dpic.html > > There is a William Price who is buried here who I have traced on the 1841, > 1851, 1861 & 1871 censuses. In the first two censuses his residence is Ty > Newdd, Llangamarch & in the second two Ty Garw. He also has three sons, > David, James & William who in turn on the census's are described as masons. > > So, I have the place name Tir Garw that re-occurs, the profession of mason > and the two gravestones next to each other. This is tantalisingly close to > demonstrating that the two Davids are father & son but not conclusive. > > Can anyone suggest anything? > > Andrew > Andrew Price > www.pricetree.net > > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Rita -------Original Message------- From: Rina Callingham Subject: Re: [POWYS] Ty Garw Sent: 20 Jun '07 22:09 Hi Andrew, Garw tends to mean rough or rugged. Probably refers to the location of the house. Rina [LINK: http://www.a-glamorgan-family.com/index.html] http://www.a-glamorgan-family.com/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Price" <[LINK: http://mbox.price.ac/compose.php?to=mailgroups@price.ac] mailgroups@price.ac> To: <[LINK: http://mbox.price.ac/compose.php?to=powys@rootsweb.com] powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 10:09 PM Subject: [POWYS] Ty Garw > Is anyone able to translate "Ty Garw" into in English? As far as I'm > aware > it's the name of a house in Llangamarch. > > Andrew > > Andrew Price > www.pricetree.net =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [LINK: http://mbox.price.ac/compose.php?to=POWYS-request@rootsweb.com] POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In 1851 and 1861 my G^3 Grandparents (Thomas & Margaret EVENS) were in Maesmynis and had a Granddaughter living with them, she was Rebecca EVANS/MASON born ABT 1849 Maesmynis. There is a Rebecca MASON birth in Q1 1849 Builth so I think I am going to have to get the Birth Certificate but try here first as not a very common name in that area. Rebecca is shown as Rebecca EVANS in 1851 so perhaps she was illegitimate and her mother married later. In 1861 she is shown as Rebecca MASON. I presume that one of Thomas's daughter married a Mason but don't know which and probably don't have any record of her. Probably significantly there is a William & Jane MASON next to them in the census in 1861. Jane is shown as born "Allthrangg" in 1831 so she is about the right age - any suggestions where Allthrangg might be (presumably the name has been mangled). I would have expected her to be born Maesmynis is she was one of Thomas's daughters. Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS

Hi Andrew, Garw tends to mean rough or rugged. Probably refers to the location of the house. Rina http://www.a-glamorgan-family.com/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Price" <mailgroups@price.ac> To: <powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 10:09 PM Subject: [POWYS] Ty Garw > Is anyone able to translate "Ty Garw" into in English? As far as I'm > aware > it's the name of a house in Llangamarch. > > Andrew > > Andrew Price > www.pricetree.net

It is supposed to find Banns but when I checked my G... Grandparents' marriage I only saw the marriage. It was handy because it had his occupation which I had noticed when I saw the film and also they had corrected the date which was wrong on the original - Banns were 1826 but marriage 1825. Could really do with the period before those dates. Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS > -----Original Message----- > From: powys-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:powys-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rina Callingham > Sent: 20 June 2007 21:17 > To: powys@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [POWYS] Ancestry - Breconshire, Wales Marriages, > 1813-1837 > > Thanks for that Martin. Another brick wall falls!

Hi Anita, No apparent match for Rees Prosser and Mary (1815 +/- 10), although there was a John Prosser and a Mary Price married at Llangorse 9th July 1816. As you would expect there were several possible results for David Jones and Mary, but only 1 was associated with one of the placenames that you mentioned: David Jones & Mary Morris 24th July 1828, Talgarth Rina Ref: ancestry.com http://www.a-glamorgan-family.com/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "ANITA MCKINNEY" <newtonmac@msn.com> To: <powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 9:46 PM Subject: Re: [POWYS] Ancestry - Breconshire, Wales Marriages, 1813-1837 > Would anyone be willing to look up 2 sets of couples on this database for > me? I have the US version of it but the World subscription is out of my > price range. The people I am looking for are: > > David Jones (b. 1804-1806 Llanelieu, Hay Dist., Breconshire, Wales) Son of > Jenkin & Mary Jones > Mary Unknown (b. 1810 Llanigon, Hay Dist., Breconshire, Wales) Parents are > unknown > Their first child, John R. Jones, was born on 6-1-1830 Talgarth, Hay > Dist., Breconshire, Wales > > Rees Prosser (b. 1775-1776 Cerrigcadarn, Breconshire, Wales) Parents are > unknown > Mary Unknown (b. 1784-1786 Llangorse, Brecknock Dist., Breconshire, Wales) > Parents are unknown > Their first child, Magdalen, was born in 1819 Cwmdu, Crickhowell Reg. > Dist., Breconshire, Wales >

Sorry - formatting looked OK when I hit send! Andrew Price www.pricetree.net -----Original Message----- From: powys-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powys-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Price Sent: 20 June 2007 22:19 To: powys@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [POWYS] Ancestry - Breconshire, Wales Marriages, 1813-1837 There are 25 David Jones's but only 1 in Talgarth: Breconshire, Wales Marriages, 1813-1837 about David Jones Name: David Jones Spouse: Mary Morris Marriage Date: 24 Jul 1828 Location: Talgarth License or Banns: Banns Comments: Groom - Widower The others are as follows: David Jones Mary Lloyd 8 Jun 1837 Builth David Jones Mary Jones 12 Jun 1829 Llanwrtyd David Jones Mary Morris 5 Dec 1828 Llan-Y-Wern David Jones Mary Gwynne 20 Jun 1813 Llanelly David Jones Mary Jones 18 May 1832 Llywel David Jones Mary Thomas 22 Feb 1817 Llanwrtyd David Jones Mary James 6 Dec 1819 Llanafan Fawr David Jones Mary Williams 23 Mar 1818 Brecon, St. Mary David Jones Mary Pugh 2 May 1817 Llanfeugan David Jones Mary Davies 10 May 1828 Vaynor David Jones Mary Madock 10 Jul 1819 Llangynidr David Jones Mary Williams 14 Dec 1829 Llanddeti David Jones Mary Morris 24 Jul 1828 Talgarth David Jones Mary Evans 22 Jul 1814 Llanfihangel Abergwesyn David Jones Mary Davies 1 Dec 1830 Llandeilo'R-Fan David Jones Mary Evans 19 Dec 1836 Vaynor David Jones Mary Herbert 8 Jul 1825 Llanfilo David Jones Mary Jones 4 Aug 1816 Brecon, St.David David Jones Mary Jones 14 Nov 1820 Llandyfaelog Fach David Jones Mary Jones 6 Sep 1824 Penderyn David Jones Mary Jones 23 May 1832 Llanwrthwl David Jones Mary Lewis 3 Oct 1835 Merthyr Cynog David Jones Mary Williams 27 Jul 1817 Brecon, St. Mary David Jones Mary Ann Beynon 18 Oct 1829 Llangattock David Jones Mary Anne Brown 6 Jul 1826 Llanelly This could be his parents: Breconshire, Wales Marriages, 1813-1837 <http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1175&enc=1> about Jenkin Jones Name: Jenkin Jones Spouse: Mary Jones Marriage Date: 31 Jul 1835 Location: Crickadarn License or Banns: Banns No Rees Prosser & Mary =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My 3xG/Grandfather was David Price, He was born about 1785 in Llangamarch and lived and died at Gwebedog, Tirabad. He's buried in the Gelynos cemetery just outside Llanwrtyd Wells. Very little else is known of his origins other than the fact that his appearances on the census returns describe him as a mason. He was "chapel" and no other records have been found. He was married on 27th December 1816 in Llangamarch. The BT's give his residence at the time as "Tir Garw". His gravestone in Gelynos is photographed here: http://www.mypicshare.com/hyhquarxpic.html The adjoining grave is for David & Sarah Price: http://www.mypicshare.com/7u6sfsbtpic.html The two stones are separate from all the others and do appear to be "paired" together. The conclusion that I'm keen to make is that they are father and son. The rest of the cemetery is peppered with Price's. I've reconstructed many of the families: http://www.mypicshare.com/nlrcli4dpic.html There is a William Price who is buried here who I have traced on the 1841, 1851, 1861 & 1871 censuses. In the first two censuses his residence is Ty Newdd, Llangamarch & in the second two Ty Garw. He also has three sons, David, James & William who in turn on the census's are described as masons. So, I have the place name Tir Garw that re-occurs, the profession of mason and the two gravestones next to each other. This is tantalisingly close to demonstrating that the two Davids are father & son but not conclusive. Can anyone suggest anything? Andrew Andrew Price www.pricetree.net

There are 25 David Jones's but only 1 in Talgarth: Breconshire, Wales Marriages, 1813-1837 about David Jones Name: David Jones Spouse: Mary Morris Marriage Date: 24 Jul 1828 Location: Talgarth License or Banns: Banns Comments: Groom - Widower The others are as follows: David Jones Mary Lloyd 8 Jun 1837 Builth David Jones Mary Jones 12 Jun 1829 Llanwrtyd David Jones Mary Morris 5 Dec 1828 Llan-Y-Wern David Jones Mary Gwynne 20 Jun 1813 Llanelly David Jones Mary Jones 18 May 1832 Llywel David Jones Mary Thomas 22 Feb 1817 Llanwrtyd David Jones Mary James 6 Dec 1819 Llanafan Fawr David Jones Mary Williams 23 Mar 1818 Brecon, St. Mary David Jones Mary Pugh 2 May 1817 Llanfeugan David Jones Mary Davies 10 May 1828 Vaynor David Jones Mary Madock 10 Jul 1819 Llangynidr David Jones Mary Williams 14 Dec 1829 Llanddeti David Jones Mary Morris 24 Jul 1828 Talgarth David Jones Mary Evans 22 Jul 1814 Llanfihangel Abergwesyn David Jones Mary Davies 1 Dec 1830 Llandeilo'R-Fan David Jones Mary Evans 19 Dec 1836 Vaynor David Jones Mary Herbert 8 Jul 1825 Llanfilo David Jones Mary Jones 4 Aug 1816 Brecon, St.David David Jones Mary Jones 14 Nov 1820 Llandyfaelog Fach David Jones Mary Jones 6 Sep 1824 Penderyn David Jones Mary Jones 23 May 1832 Llanwrthwl David Jones Mary Lewis 3 Oct 1835 Merthyr Cynog David Jones Mary Williams 27 Jul 1817 Brecon, St. Mary David Jones Mary Ann Beynon 18 Oct 1829 Llangattock David Jones Mary Anne Brown 6 Jul 1826 Llanelly This could be his parents: Breconshire, Wales Marriages, 1813-1837 <http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1175&enc=1> about Jenkin Jones Name: Jenkin Jones Spouse: Mary Jones Marriage Date: 31 Jul 1835 Location: Crickadarn License or Banns: Banns No Rees Prosser & Mary

Is anyone able to translate "Ty Garw" into in English? As far as I'm aware it's the name of a house in Llangamarch. Andrew Andrew Price www.pricetree.net

Thanks for that Martin. Another brick wall falls! Rina http://www.a-glamorgan-family.com/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Briscoe" <mbriscoe@zetnet.co.uk> To: <powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 8:32 PM Subject: [POWYS] Ancestry - Breconshire, Wales Marriages, 1813-1837 > Has anyone mentioned that Ancestry have added "Breconshire, Wales > Marriages, > 1813-1837" to their database on 16th June. > > > > Martin Briscoe > Fort William > M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS

I wonder if anyone could clarify the address in this email for me please? Where is Llanfihangel, Cwmdu? Is it a different place from Llanfihangel Rhydithon? I have an ancestor (family folklore says he was married at Llanfihangel c1843- not sure which Llanfihangel) named Powell and just wondered if there could be a connection. Thank you for your help, Myra -----Original Message----- Behalf Of Tomi Larson Sent: 20 June 2007 13:44 I have a marriage for Robert PARRY and Sarah POWELL, 12 Feb 1782, Llanfihangel, Cwmdu, Bre.

Has anyone mentioned that Ancestry have added "Breconshire, Wales Marriages, 1813-1837" to their database on 16th June. Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS

Would anyone be willing to look up 2 sets of couples on this database for me? I have the US version of it but the World subscription is out of my price range. The people I am looking for are: David Jones (b. 1804-1806 Llanelieu, Hay Dist., Breconshire, Wales) Son of Jenkin & Mary Jones Mary Unknown (b. 1810 Llanigon, Hay Dist., Breconshire, Wales) Parents are unknown Their first child, John R. Jones, was born on 6-1-1830 Talgarth, Hay Dist., Breconshire, Wales Rees Prosser (b. 1775-1776 Cerrigcadarn, Breconshire, Wales) Parents are unknown Mary Unknown (b. 1784-1786 Llangorse, Brecknock Dist., Breconshire, Wales) Parents are unknown Their first child, Magdalen, was born in 1819 Cwmdu, Crickhowell Reg. Dist., Breconshire, Wales Any help would be greatly appreciated! Anita McKinney Colorado Springs, CO USA ----- Original Message ----- From: Martin Briscoe<mailto:mbriscoe@zetnet.co.uk> To: powys@rootsweb.com<mailto:powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 1:32 PM Subject: [POWYS] Ancestry - Breconshire, Wales Marriages, 1813-1837 Has anyone mentioned that Ancestry have added "Breconshire, Wales Marriages, 1813-1837" to their database on 16th June. Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm<http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:POWYS-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Did you try www.mapquest.uk.com? It takes you to uk.ask.com Contact me off line, I have some Parry, Powell and William from Brecon and Monmouthshire areas. j_powell@qwest.net Jim Powell -----Original Message----- From: powys-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powys-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Myra Duffy Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 1:03 PM To: powys@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [POWYS] POWELL, PARRY, ROBERT, WILLIAM, Llanfiangel and Vaynor,BRE I wonder if anyone could clarify the address in this email for me please? Where is Llanfihangel, Cwmdu? Is it a different place from Llanfihangel Rhydithon? I have an ancestor (family folklore says he was married at Llanfihangel c1843- not sure which Llanfihangel) named Powell and just wondered if there could be a connection. Thank you for your help, Myra -----Original Message----- Behalf Of Tomi Larson Sent: 20 June 2007 13:44 I have a marriage for Robert PARRY and Sarah POWELL, 12 Feb 1782, Llanfihangel, Cwmdu, Bre. =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, You may remember that I posted a query some time ago about my GG Grandfather Richard Monnington. It would appear that his mother was a Mary Mumford. A friend discovered this baptism entry 17 Oct 1819 'baptised Richard Monington bastard son of Richard Monington, Labourer and Mary Mumford Norton Village'. I do know from my GG Grandfathers army records & marriage cert that his father was listed as Richard Monnington, Labourer and that his mother was called Mary. I also know he was born in Norton, Radnorshire. If anyone can help me with Mary Mumford I'd be really grateful :-) Hugs, Lucinda xx This e-mail and any attachments hereto are:- 1. Strictly confidential and intended solely for the addressee. 2. If you are not the intended addressee, you must not disclose, forward, copy or take any action in reliance on this e-mail or attachments. 3. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender as soon as possible. 4. Not intended to create contractual relations or legal obligations binding on the sender and no action may be taken in reliance on this e-mail and any attachments hereto unless the contents are confirmed by a signed letter from the sender. 5. Addressees should check all attachments for viruses. The sender makes no representations as regards the absence of viruses in attachments to this e-mail

Thanks for the update Diana. I have found Heritage Web Design in Salt Lake City that is going to do my website. I'll keep you posted. I have found that my Probert's traveled all over the place and that is keeping me from finding a marriage record I need. Keep it in mind that Hannah could have been from Brecon and worked 'out'. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Little Warren Farm" <littlewarrenfarm@btinternet.com> To: "Powys FHS" <powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 10:26 PM Subject: Re: [POWYS] Probert, Breconshire fao Nancy > Hi Nancy - yes that one is mine - Howel Probert m Ann Williams 1727 > Crickadarn Breconshire their son Thomas is baptised at Cricadarn on the > 31st > March 1738 - I have a photo from the entry in the book at Crickadarn > church, > a cousin visited the church a couple of weeks ago. > > This Howel Probert could be the son of Thomas Probert the churchwarden. > One of the old bells (the second bell) in the church was inscribed with > his > name along with > that of the other church warden John Maddock. Unfortunately the > original register with the relevant information that my cousin and I am > after was lent by a previous vicar to a visiting American. The > American > never returned the register to the church. This was according to the > present day incumbent of Crickadarn church. He did however give us the > history around the time of these Proberts which was very interesting. > > Thomas Probert the churchwarden was married to Anne. When he died Anne > inherited the farm and money. She then married a William Powell and > they > had children together > who inherited the farm and money. This was before the womens property > act > of 1870. Thomas Probert's eldest son David thus lost out on his > inheritance and went to America. Other children stayed and made their > own way. Thomas Probert the churchwarden is buried at Crickadarn dated > 1744. > > I am not sure about Thomas 1738 marrying Hannah Morgans at Gladestry, > Brecs. > it is a long way from Crickadarn! > > thank you for your help > Diana > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nancy Strickland" <nts@sti.net> > To: <powys@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 9:06 PM > Subject: Re: [POWYS] Probert, Breconshire > > >>I have this one: >> New-probertcd3 Query2 First Name Last Name Age Event Mo/Da Year >> Parish/Town Location Parents Spouse Occupation Comments First Name of >> Submitters Last Name of Submitters >> howell probert >> marr 12-16 1727 crickadarn brecon >> anne williams-b1706 by banns Rhedegydd ap Probertdescendant Rhe >> Probert >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Little Warren Farm" <littlewarrenfarm@btinternet.com> >> To: "Powys" <Powys@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 10:48 PM >> Subject: [POWYS] Probert, Breconshire >> >> >>> >>> Dear List, >>> >>> I wonder if anyone can help me on this one. >>> >>> I have a Howel Probert father of Thomas Probert bapt. 31st March 1738 >>> Crickadarn. I believe that Howel Probert married Anne Williams in 1727 >>> at Crickadarn. The NLW say that they do not have any marriage records >>> before 1734. >>> >>> Thomas 1738 I believe married a Hannah with children John 1766 and >>> Thomas >>> 1773. Does anyone have a marriage of a Thomas Probert to Hannah ? or >>> could look up any record for me at Crickadarn. >>> >>> with thanks >>> Diana >>> >>> =================== >>> Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: >>> www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> =================== >> Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: >> www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, I have a marriage for Robert PARRY and Sarah POWELL, 12 Feb 1782, Llanfihangel, Cwmdu, Bre. They had children all Christened in Llanfiangel. Sarah Robert 18 May 1793, Elizabeth Robert 24 Dec 1784, Mary Robert 23 June 1788, Margaret Robert 22 June 1786, William Robert 6 July 1791. Can anyone find any marriages or other siblings for these children? I also have a marriage for David POWELL and Mary WILIAM in Vaynor, 6 Feb 1758. Can anyone help with finding children other than daughter Sarah POWELL Christened 14 Feb 1762? Thank you for any help, Tomi _________________________________________________________________ Get a preview of Live Earth, the hottest event this summer - only on MSN http://liveearth.msn.com?source=msntaglineliveearthhm