It might be relevant that Philip's Street Atlas of Powys notes two locations (with odd spellings) 'Upper Noyadde' and 'Lower Noyadde' about a mile north of Llowes. All the best Shirley On Aug 2 2007, Angela Jones wrote: > Hi, Yes Llandewi Fach is near Llowes - certainly walking distance (a good > walk with some strenuous bits!)but you do have to go up and over the > Begwms which is a wonderful place - moorland with fantastic views! I have > just had a look to see if there is anything about the church there on the > Church in Wales site and yes! Lovely old church - you have to park and > walk across a field to get to it. Sorry though I don't know where Noyadd > is, perhaps a search on an old maps site would show you. Happy hunting > Angie > >From: "The Taylors" <ftaylor3@toucansurf.com> >Reply-To: powys@rootsweb.com >To: <powys@rootsweb.com> >Subject: [POWYS] Noyadd Llandewifach >Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 20:30:57 +0100 > >Could some very kind person please tell me where Noyadd Llandewifach, >Radnorshire is? Is it near Llowes? It is given on a birth certificate >which I have just received. > >I have failed to find it on a map. I look forward to hearing from someone. > >Many thanks > >Rosemary > > > >=================== >Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send > an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >_________________________________________________________________ >The next generation of Hotmail is here! http://www.newhotmail.co.uk > > >=================== >Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send > an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > --

Hi, Yes Llandewi Fach is near Llowes - certainly walking distance (a good walk with some strenuous bits!)but you do have to go up and over the Begwms which is a wonderful place - moorland with fantastic views! I have just had a look to see if there is anything about the church there on the Church in Wales site and yes! Lovely old church - you have to park and walk across a field to get to it. Sorry though I don't know where Noyadd is, perhaps a search on an old maps site would show you. Happy hunting Angie From: "The Taylors" <ftaylor3@toucansurf.com> Reply-To: powys@rootsweb.com To: <powys@rootsweb.com> Subject: [POWYS] Noyadd Llandewifach Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 20:30:57 +0100 Could some very kind person please tell me where Noyadd Llandewifach, Radnorshire is? Is it near Llowes? It is given on a birth certificate which I have just received. I have failed to find it on a map. I look forward to hearing from someone. Many thanks Rosemary =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ The next generation of Hotmail is here! http://www.newhotmail.co.uk

Rosemary Taylor <ftaylor3@toucansurf.com> wrote: Could some very kind person please tell me where Noyadd Llandewifach, Radnorshire is? Is it near Llowes? It is given on a birth certificate which I have just received. I have failed to find it on a map. I look forward to hearing from someone. ================ Dear Rosemary, Llanddewi-fach is a parish in Radnorshire (see the GENUKI website at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/RAD/LlanddewiFach/ ). It is five miles northwest of Hay-on-Wye, and 14 miles from Brecon. 'Noyadd' is more correctly spelt 'Neuadd' and means 'hall' (= large house). Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Cwmgwili, Carmarthenshire, Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2005.plus.com John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/ Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/ GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ Joint Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) RootsWeb mailing lists

Could some very kind person please tell me where Noyadd Llandewifach, Radnorshire is? Is it near Llowes? It is given on a birth certificate which I have just received. I have failed to find it on a map. I look forward to hearing from someone. Many thanks Rosemary

Thank you Katherine. It's the Earthlink one that my friend has been trying to contact him on, to no avail. Ann. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now.

Hi Lewis, Thanks for your suggestion but that was the first place I went after discovering the existence of this character. I'd come across a snippet of a entry in the National Biographical Dictionary but only knew the surname. Eventually I found out it was Henry LLOYD and that was believed to be linked to the LLOYDs of Cwmbychan, near Llanbedr. Anyway, thanks and best wishes, Charles ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lloyd Lewis" <lloyd.lewis1@virgin.net> To: <powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 3:56 AM Subject: Re: [POWYS] Henry LLOYD > Hi Charles, > > On the National Library of Wales site and located in the 'Welsh Biography' > is a write up on Henry Lloyd. > Below is the direct link: > > http://wbo.llgc.org.uk/en/s-LLOY-HEN-1720.html?query=Henry+Lloyd&field=name > > Hope this helps. > > Regards > Lloyd > Editor Cronicl Powys > www.rootsweb.com/~wlspfhs

Dear All, My surname interests for Powys all relate to Montgomeryshire. EVANS - Robert EVANS born c1810 Llangdafan married Mary ROWLANDS (my ancestor), 9 children born in Llandysilio1838-1852, later married Sarah WILLIAMS, 2 children born in Llandrinio 1858 & 1862 ROWLANDS - Mary ROWLANDS born c1811 Berriew FARMER - Edward FARMER born c1833 Guilsfield, two children born in Welshpool, 1877 & 1880 Regards, Mark

Hi Charles, On the National Library of Wales site and located in the 'Welsh Biography' is a write up on Henry Lloyd. Below is the direct link: http://wbo.llgc.org.uk/en/s-LLOY-HEN-1720.html?query=Henry+Lloyd&field=name Hope this helps. Regards Lloyd Editor Cronicl Powys www.rootsweb.com/~wlspfhs ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles" <evans_gunther@ybb.ne.jp> To: <POWYS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 3:40 AM Subject: [POWYS] Henry LLOYD > Hi Listers, > Making a visit in search of someinformation concerning one Henry LLOYD who > was a supporter of Bonnie Prince Charlie during the Jacobite Rising. I found > the following reference on the POWYS List but when I sent message to the > addresses shown, they bounced. > > Hello Annie, > > I don't know about Welsh regiments at Culloden, but you might be > interested in General Henry Lloyd, who was one of Bonnie Prince > Charlie's aides, if you don't know about him already. I have an article > written by a relative and published in a Welsh-interest magazine 2 or 3 > years ago. The article discusses whether Henry Lloyd was related to the > Lloyds of Cwm Bychan (near Harlech), who are my own Lloyds. It also > considers whether Henry Lloyd was perhaps in fact a double agent who was > really working for the Hanoverian government. Fascinating stuff! > > I expect for the regimental data you would have to go to London or use a > researcher there. > > Best wishes, > > Ann > -- > *************************** > Ann Watt Brignall > Edinburgh > Scotland > > email: amb@met.ed.ac.uk > or: A.Brignall@ed.ac.uk > *************************** > > I wonder if anyone knows anything about this information. > > > Best wishes, > Charles > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello listers. Does anyone know if Bill Barker has changed his email address, and if so, what is it please.A friend of mine has been trying to contact him but to no avail. I know he moved house, but don't now if he changed his ISP or not. Many thanks. Ann. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now.

Good Evening Alison, Pat Powell Springer here............................I have a H. Stanley Jones mentioned on the Madoc Castle Powells. Stanley bought the castle in 1946. You can view a copy of this chart in Llandrindod, Wales at the Powys Archives. I think there might be more Joneses on the chart. Will look real good on the chart, and see if I can find more. Thank you, Pat (Powell) Springer in Southern Indiana USA ----- Original Message ----- From: Alison Skipper<mailto:alison@skippers.org.uk> To: powys@rootsweb.com<mailto:powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 4:52 AM Subject: [POWYS] BRE - Cwmwysg/Llywel - Evans, George Good Morning Roger and Ian, My 3x great-grandparents, Evan EVANS and Elizabeth (neee POWELL), farmed at Llwynmeurig in the 1800's and the farm is still in the family. More cousins farm at YnyPwlluchaf, Ynysfawr. My GEORGE ancestors farmed at Pwlluchaf, Traeanglas. Other families that I am researching in the Llywel area - POWELL, MORGAN, LLEWELYN and JONES. Have we any links? Regards, Alison -----Original Message----- Further to Alison's reply, Cwmwysk is frequently referred to in local documents as the farm in the bottom of the valley about 1 mile south west of Trecastle, just below, in a physical sense, the Trecastle to Llanddeusant road. The adjacent (nearby) properties include Ynysfawr and Pwllisaf. ..........who are you interested in ? =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm<http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:POWYS-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have the e-mail address he put on the CD I bought from him a couple of years ago, along with his address. I do not want to send that information through a mailing list, as it would subject him to spam due to scanning computers looking for e-mail addresses. If you will contact me off-list, I will send it to you privately. This one is based at Earthlink. Katherine Benbow ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Hi Listers, Making a visit in search of someinformation concerning one Henry LLOYD who was a supporter of Bonnie Prince Charlie during the Jacobite Rising. I found the following reference on the POWYS List but when I sent message to the addresses shown, they bounced. Hello Annie, I don't know about Welsh regiments at Culloden, but you might be interested in General Henry Lloyd, who was one of Bonnie Prince Charlie's aides, if you don't know about him already. I have an article written by a relative and published in a Welsh-interest magazine 2 or 3 years ago. The article discusses whether Henry Lloyd was related to the Lloyds of Cwm Bychan (near Harlech), who are my own Lloyds. It also considers whether Henry Lloyd was perhaps in fact a double agent who was really working for the Hanoverian government. Fascinating stuff! I expect for the regimental data you would have to go to London or use a researcher there. Best wishes, Ann -- *************************** Ann Watt Brignall Edinburgh Scotland email: amb@met.ed.ac.uk or: A.Brignall@ed.ac.uk *************************** I wonder if anyone knows anything about this information. Best wishes, Charles

Hello Everyone, My wife and I have just moved into the Tan Y Neuadd property; a converted barn opposite the Neuadd at Cwmcamlais. I was looking to research into who used to own the Neuadd farm, and what the barn used to look like. We have the water wheel pit outside the barn, but no water wheel - does anyone know where the wheel is? I was hoping it was preserved and taken to some sort of museum! Any information on the Neuadd barn at Cwmcamlais would be appreciated! Thank you in advance, Mr Pete James & Mrs Maria James

Pictures of: River Tawe (BRE/GLA); and Sea Views, Swansea (GLA) Dear Listers, This week's 'Retrospective Images of Wales' webpages, just uploaded onto my website, include: 1. A photographic exploration of the River Tawe, from its source to its mouth where it empties into Swansea Bay (seven pictures). This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in March 1998. 2. Glimpses of the sea and Swansea docks, taken during a walk around Swansea in the county of Glamorgan (seven pictures). This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in November 1998. As usual, these webpages will be on display for one week. 'Retrospective Images of Wales' is at www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/retro/retro.htm Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Cwmgwili, Carmarthenshire, Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2005.plus.com John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/ Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/ GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ Joint Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) mailing lists

Hi, Can anyone tell me if the Ancestors On Board site has plans to offer immigration/emigration information before 1890 in the future? Thank you, Tomi Larson Message: 1 >Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 09:38:11 +0100 >From: "Alison Bryan" <alison.bryan@gmail.com> >Subject: Re: [POWYS] Sailing to Canada from Wales in 1888 >To: powys@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: > <6f0e1bcd0707270138k713889d8oe61df8a79a53932d@mail.gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >Hi Margaret > >You probably know all this already. > >For people leaving the UK: http://www.ancestorsonboard.com/ > >Canada passenger lists (yet to be made avail online for this time >frame): >http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/passenger/001045-130-e.html > >(Side note: I ordered my grandfather's record from this site, and >found them speedy in their reply). > >More info on the Ships List: >http://www.theshipslist.com/Research/canadarecords.htm#1919 > >HtH, Alison > _________________________________________________________________ Need a brain boost? Recharge with a stimulating game. Play now!  http://club.live.com/home.aspx?icid=club_hotmailtextlink1

Hi Alison et al, Thanks for your two emails, firstly I have subscribed to the British Columbia list and received some very interesting information and suggestions however it is even more quiet than this one and emails have come to a stop. My husband Brian's grandfather was one of eight brothers and sisters and three of the men emigrated to Canada and one to America around 1910. They all worked in the wool mills in the Halifax, Yorkshire area and apparently the Canadian Government sent representatives to promote their country by offering eighty acres of land in Saskatchewan to anyone interested in emigrating. Brian's great uncles and their families moved to the Tisdale area and started building homesteads and working the land which was passed into their ownership. They all stayed there and made successes of their lives despite the fact that they had no experience of farming and no doubt life in the early days must have been very difficult. I was pleased you sent the "Ancestors on Board" website as it will be interesting to discover which Welsh ports were used to sail to Canada in 1890. Thanks again for your help. Regards, Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alison Bryan" <alison.bryan@gmail.com> To: <powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [POWYS] Sailing to Canada from Wales in 1888 > Margaret > > I wondered how my grandfather wound up in Canada. They used to > advertise for farm hands in local newspapers, at least at the time my > g/father migrated there. Someone on one of the Canadian lists kindly > posted me an example advert ... I really have no idea where it is at > this moment (will try looking in my filing cabinet later - if find > will scan). > > 1911 Canadian census - think you need a specific address? > > Sorry for the dead end suggestion re Ancestors on Board - should read > the website more carefully. > > Alison > > > > On 27/07/07, Brian & Margaret Harvey <bgh-mgh@teanstaffs.fsnet.co.uk> wrote: > > Hi John, Carol, Alison and Carrol, > > > > Thank you for your responses to my email. Thomas lived on a smallholding of > > 26 acres in the small parish of Llangurig before moving south where he was > > employed in a steel works in Merthyr Tydfil at some period between 1871 and > > 1881. He left for Canada and arrived in 1888 in the Kamloops area to work > > on the Douglas Lake Cattle Ranch. There would have been sheep on the farm > > in Wales so it would have been completely different although of course he > > would have been working in the open air which he would have missed when > > working in the steel works. > > > > Thomas became a foreman on the ranch, a position he held for many years > > before leaving in April 1912 to go into partnership with a friend and buying > > the Northern Transfer Company. Sadly Thomas had his leg amputated in the > > August and died in the October age 52 years, he never married. > > > > I wonder how Thomas came to hear about the job at the Douglas Lake Ranch as > > I am sure that he wouldn't have travelled all the that way without some idea > > of what he was going to do. The journey in Canada would have been easier > > than in the past before the railway as it had been opened a couple of years > > earlier. > > > > Thank you for the website addresses, they will keep me busy however the > > "ancestors on board" one goes from 1890-1960 so doesn't cover the year > > Thomas left Wales. I may be able, however to look at sailings to give me an > > idea where he was likely to have sailed from and to > > > > I have Thomas' death record and also his entry on the 1901 Census where he > > was living in the Yale & Cariboo District however I have been unable to find > > him in 1911. Are there any other censuses available for searching on line? > > > > Thanks again for your help. > > > > Regards, > > Margaret H > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Steitz" <johnst@luckbros.com> > > To: <powys@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 1:52 AM > > Subject: Re: [POWYS] Sailing to Canada from Wales in 1888 > > > > > > > Margaret > > > Your ancestor was a smart man to head to Kamloops, a beautiful area. I > > > believe all the records that remain are in Ottawa. There were several > > > collecting points along the way up the St Lawrence. Regardless, I have > > heard > > > that many of the ship documents to Canada were lost in a fire but I would > > be > > > looking in Ottawa if I were you. Best of luck. > > > John > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: powys-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powys-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > > > Behalf Of Brian & Margaret Harvey > > > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 7:56 PM > > > To: powys@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: [POWYS] Sailing to Canada from Wales in 1888 > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > Thomas Jones, one of my ancestors left Wales about 1888 to sail to Canada. > > > He was born in Llangurig, Montgomeryshire but I think I have found him > > > working as an "Iron baller" and lodging in Merthyr Tydfil in 1881. I am > > > hoping someone can tell me from which port he would be likely to have > > sailed > > > and also where he would disembark on arrival in Canada. His final > > > destination was the Kamloops area of British Columbia and I will be > > grateful > > > for any help and suggestions. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Margaret Harvey > > > > > > =================== > > > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > > www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in > > > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =================== > > > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > > www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > =================== > > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Wrong time frame, and this is west but might be of interest ... reply I got from a Canadian list a year ago (re travel in 1926): "there was an emigration scheme by the Canadian government to get workers out to the Canadian West in the 20s to help with the harvest. There was heavy advertisement in Great Britain .... Their passage would have been paid by the CPR (Canadian Pacific Railway) or other organization, as they were desperate for farm help." Margaret - assume you've posted your query to relevant Canadian lists? Alison

Margaret I wondered how my grandfather wound up in Canada. They used to advertise for farm hands in local newspapers, at least at the time my g/father migrated there. Someone on one of the Canadian lists kindly posted me an example advert ... I really have no idea where it is at this moment (will try looking in my filing cabinet later - if find will scan). 1911 Canadian census - think you need a specific address? Sorry for the dead end suggestion re Ancestors on Board - should read the website more carefully. Alison On 27/07/07, Brian & Margaret Harvey <bgh-mgh@teanstaffs.fsnet.co.uk> wrote: > Hi John, Carol, Alison and Carrol, > > Thank you for your responses to my email. Thomas lived on a smallholding of > 26 acres in the small parish of Llangurig before moving south where he was > employed in a steel works in Merthyr Tydfil at some period between 1871 and > 1881. He left for Canada and arrived in 1888 in the Kamloops area to work > on the Douglas Lake Cattle Ranch. There would have been sheep on the farm > in Wales so it would have been completely different although of course he > would have been working in the open air which he would have missed when > working in the steel works. > > Thomas became a foreman on the ranch, a position he held for many years > before leaving in April 1912 to go into partnership with a friend and buying > the Northern Transfer Company. Sadly Thomas had his leg amputated in the > August and died in the October age 52 years, he never married. > > I wonder how Thomas came to hear about the job at the Douglas Lake Ranch as > I am sure that he wouldn't have travelled all the that way without some idea > of what he was going to do. The journey in Canada would have been easier > than in the past before the railway as it had been opened a couple of years > earlier. > > Thank you for the website addresses, they will keep me busy however the > "ancestors on board" one goes from 1890-1960 so doesn't cover the year > Thomas left Wales. I may be able, however to look at sailings to give me an > idea where he was likely to have sailed from and to > > I have Thomas' death record and also his entry on the 1901 Census where he > was living in the Yale & Cariboo District however I have been unable to find > him in 1911. Are there any other censuses available for searching on line? > > Thanks again for your help. > > Regards, > Margaret H > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Steitz" <johnst@luckbros.com> > To: <powys@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 1:52 AM > Subject: Re: [POWYS] Sailing to Canada from Wales in 1888 > > > > Margaret > > Your ancestor was a smart man to head to Kamloops, a beautiful area. I > > believe all the records that remain are in Ottawa. There were several > > collecting points along the way up the St Lawrence. Regardless, I have > heard > > that many of the ship documents to Canada were lost in a fire but I would > be > > looking in Ottawa if I were you. Best of luck. > > John > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: powys-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powys-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > > Behalf Of Brian & Margaret Harvey > > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 7:56 PM > > To: powys@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [POWYS] Sailing to Canada from Wales in 1888 > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > Thomas Jones, one of my ancestors left Wales about 1888 to sail to Canada. > > He was born in Llangurig, Montgomeryshire but I think I have found him > > working as an "Iron baller" and lodging in Merthyr Tydfil in 1881. I am > > hoping someone can tell me from which port he would be likely to have > sailed > > and also where he would disembark on arrival in Canada. His final > > destination was the Kamloops area of British Columbia and I will be > grateful > > for any help and suggestions. > > > > Regards, > > Margaret Harvey > > > > =================== > > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > =================== > > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi John, Carol, Alison and Carrol, Thank you for your responses to my email. Thomas lived on a smallholding of 26 acres in the small parish of Llangurig before moving south where he was employed in a steel works in Merthyr Tydfil at some period between 1871 and 1881. He left for Canada and arrived in 1888 in the Kamloops area to work on the Douglas Lake Cattle Ranch. There would have been sheep on the farm in Wales so it would have been completely different although of course he would have been working in the open air which he would have missed when working in the steel works. Thomas became a foreman on the ranch, a position he held for many years before leaving in April 1912 to go into partnership with a friend and buying the Northern Transfer Company. Sadly Thomas had his leg amputated in the August and died in the October age 52 years, he never married. I wonder how Thomas came to hear about the job at the Douglas Lake Ranch as I am sure that he wouldn't have travelled all the that way without some idea of what he was going to do. The journey in Canada would have been easier than in the past before the railway as it had been opened a couple of years earlier. Thank you for the website addresses, they will keep me busy however the "ancestors on board" one goes from 1890-1960 so doesn't cover the year Thomas left Wales. I may be able, however to look at sailings to give me an idea where he was likely to have sailed from and to I have Thomas' death record and also his entry on the 1901 Census where he was living in the Yale & Cariboo District however I have been unable to find him in 1911. Are there any other censuses available for searching on line? Thanks again for your help. Regards, Margaret H ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Steitz" <johnst@luckbros.com> To: <powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 1:52 AM Subject: Re: [POWYS] Sailing to Canada from Wales in 1888 > Margaret > Your ancestor was a smart man to head to Kamloops, a beautiful area. I > believe all the records that remain are in Ottawa. There were several > collecting points along the way up the St Lawrence. Regardless, I have heard > that many of the ship documents to Canada were lost in a fire but I would be > looking in Ottawa if I were you. Best of luck. > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: powys-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powys-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Brian & Margaret Harvey > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 7:56 PM > To: powys@rootsweb.com > Subject: [POWYS] Sailing to Canada from Wales in 1888 > > Hi everyone, > > Thomas Jones, one of my ancestors left Wales about 1888 to sail to Canada. > He was born in Llangurig, Montgomeryshire but I think I have found him > working as an "Iron baller" and lodging in Merthyr Tydfil in 1881. I am > hoping someone can tell me from which port he would be likely to have sailed > and also where he would disembark on arrival in Canada. His final > destination was the Kamloops area of British Columbia and I will be grateful > for any help and suggestions. > > Regards, > Margaret Harvey > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Margaret Am really pleased to see that you have managed to pick up the threads of your FH.? I hope this means that you are feeling better! Still no baby!!!! Ruth -----Original Message----- From: Brian & Margaret Harvey <bgh-mgh@teanstaffs.fsnet.co.uk> To: powys@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 9.15pm Subject: Re: [POWYS] Sailing to Canada from Wales in 1888 Hi John, Carol, Alison and Carrol, Thank you for your responses to my email. Thomas lived on a smallholding of 26 acres in the small parish of Llangurig before moving south where he was employed in a steel works in Merthyr Tydfil at some period between 1871 and 1881. He left for Canada and arrived in 1888 in the Kamloops area to work on the Douglas Lake Cattle Ranch. There would have been sheep on the farm in Wales so it would have been completely different although of course he would have been working in the open air which he would have missed when working in the steel works. Thomas became a foreman on the ranch, a position he held for many years before leaving in April 1912 to go into partnership with a friend and buying the Northern Transfer Company. Sadly Thomas had his leg amputated in the August and died in the October age 52 years, he never married. I wonder how Thomas came to hear about the job at the Douglas Lake Ranch as I am sure that he wouldn't have travelled all the that way without some idea of what he was going to do. The journey in Canada would have been easier than in the past before the railway as it had been opened a couple of years earlier. Thank you for the website addresses, they will keep me busy however the "ancestors on board" one goes from 1890-1960 so doesn't cover the year Thomas left Wales. I may be able, however to look at sailings to give me an idea where he was likely to have sailed from and to I have Thomas' death record and also his entry on the 1901 Census where he was living in the Yale & Cariboo District however I have been unable to find him in 1911. Are there any other censuses available for searching on line? Thanks again for your help. Regards, Margaret H ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Steitz" <johnst@luckbros.com> To: <powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 1:52 AM Subject: Re: [POWYS] Sailing to Canada from Wales in 1888 > Margaret > Your ancestor was a smart man to head to Kamloops, a beautiful area. I > believe all the records that remain are in Ottawa. There were several > collecting points along the way up the St Lawrence. Regardless, I have heard > that many of the ship documents to Canada were lost in a fire but I would be > looking in Ottawa if I were you. Best of luck. > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: powys-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powys-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Brian & Margaret Harvey > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 7:56 PM > To: powys@rootsweb.com > Subject: [POWYS] Sailing to Canada from Wales in 1888 > > Hi everyone, > > Thomas Jones, one of my ancestors left Wales about 1888 to sail to Canada. > He was born in Llangurig, Montgomeryshire but I think I have found him > working as an "Iron baller" and lodging in Merthyr Tydfil in 1881. I am > hoping someone can tell me from which port he would be likely to have sailed > and also where he would disembark on arrival in Canada. His final > destination was the Kamloops area of British Columbia and I will be grateful > for any help and suggestions. > > Regards, > Margaret Harvey > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE AOL Email account with 2GB of storage. Plus, share and store photos and experience exclusively recorded live music Sessions from your favourite artists. Find out more at http://info.aol.co.uk/joinnow/?ncid=548.