Dear Richard, Yes, I have some understanding of the system of ballots and substitutes etc. but this seems, as someone else suggested, more like a lottery. If you subscribe and then are drawn then you get paid funds from the pool of subscriptions. This would, I imagine, help to cover loss of income incurred while you served or the payment to a substitute to serve for the person drawn, especially if you couldn't afford to pay a substitute. I don't think you paid a society the fee for substitution - you paid it to the man who served in your place - he isn't likely going to do it otherwise. It doesn't say but I guess you have to subscribe before the ballot takes place. Regards Lyn -----Original Message----- From: powys-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powys-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of richard ellis Sent: Tuesday, 25 September 2007 7:41 AM To: powys@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [POWYS] Militia The Cambrian 16 June 1810 Dear Lyn I think it is rather more complicated than insurance. Militia lists were drawn up throughout the country for the enlistment of reservists in time of war - and article you referred to, was at the time of the Napoleonic Wars. I gather that it may be possible to avoid conscription into the military by substitution on payment of a fee - to one of a number of societies. I have googled this topic - and it seems that "Parish records include lists of men liable to serve in the militia compiled by parish constables prior to the ballot, lists of men balloted and their substitutes, and records of payment of relief to militia men and their families. Parish lists of men liable to serve in the militia (ten names or more): were for men between the ages of 18 and 50..." I suggest that the "Substitutes" would be those who could not afford to pay-off the "insurance" - and therefore their names would have appeared in the register for enlistment. Richard -----Original Message----- From: powys-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powys-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Lyn Nunn Sent: 24 September 2007 12:24 To: GLAMORGAN-L@rootsweb.com; powys@rootsweb.com; MONMOUTHSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [POWYS] Militia The Cambrian 16 June 1810 I am not quite sure what this is about - if anyone can explain I'd appreciate it. I am thinking it is a kind of insurance? Bristol, June1, 1810 NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC The Balloting for the Old Militia for some of the Counties commenced this day (the 1st of June, 1810), and it is presumed will be general throughout the kingdom in all this month. MILTIA ALL the men of ENGLAND and WALES, subject to the approaching MILITIA BALLOT, are most respectfully informed that they have an opportunity of becoming MEMBERS of an INSTITUTION, established in BRISTOL called THE UNION MILITIA CLUB of England and Wales, in which persons of every description are admitted. TERMS VIZ., 1st. A Subscription of HALF-A-GUINEA will entitle each Person drawn to serve and Enrolled, or by Substitute, to a proportion of the Funds of this Club, not exceeding Twelve Pounds Ten Shillings. 2d. A Subscription of ONE GUINEA will entitle each Person so drawn to serve and Enrolled, or by Substitute, to a proportion of the Funds of this Club, not exceeding Twenty-five Pounds. 3d. A Subscription of TWO GUINEAS will entitle each Person so drawn to serve and Enrolled, or by Substitute, to a proportion of the Funds of this Club, not exceeding Fifty Pounds. AGENTS in all the principal towns in ENGLAND and WALES are appointed to receive Subscriptions for all the Counties in the Kingdom, for which they will give each member so entering a Memorandum of receiving such Subscriptions, which will be transmitted to the Head Office, the Assembly Coffee-house, on the Quay, Bristol, for numerical arrangement, when Certificates will be immediately forwarded by first conveyance, and for which One shilling is to be paid to the Secretary. A. ABBOTT Administratrix to (J.K. ABOOTT, Head Office, the Assembly Coffee-house on the Quay, Bristol) Secretary: WHO HAS APPOINTED Messrs. STUCKEY. LEAN, HART and MANINGFORD, Bankers, Bristol, Treasurers. N.B. The Directors of this Institution consider it necessary to observe that though they do not pledge themselves to pay the several Members of this establishment, who may be enrolled, the full sums of Twelve Pounds Ten Shillings, Twenty-five Pounds, and Fifty Pounds, but only a proportion of the funds of the said Club, but they feel great pleasure in stating that, from the general received opinion of the success already obtained (being convinced that numbers secure the undertaking), have induced them to extend the boundaries of this Institution contrary to the practice of former years, that by such augmentation they have no doubt but the full sums of Twelve Pounds Ten Shillings, Twenty-five Pounds, and Fifty Pounds will be paid to the enrolled, and also a considerable division of the Subscription returned to the so drawn subscribers. 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Dear Lyn I think it is rather more complicated than insurance. Militia lists were drawn up throughout the country for the enlistment of reservists in time of war - and article you referred to, was at the time of the Napoleonic Wars. I gather that it may be possible to avoid conscription into the military by substitution on payment of a fee - to one of a number of societies. I have googled this topic - and it seems that "Parish records include lists of men liable to serve in the militia compiled by parish constables prior to the ballot, lists of men balloted and their substitutes, and records of payment of relief to militia men and their families. Parish lists of men liable to serve in the militia (ten names or more): were for men between the ages of 18 and 50..." I suggest that the "Substitutes" would be those who could not afford to pay-off the "insurance" - and therefore their names would have appeared in the register for enlistment. Richard -----Original Message----- From: powys-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powys-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Lyn Nunn Sent: 24 September 2007 12:24 To: GLAMORGAN-L@rootsweb.com; powys@rootsweb.com; MONMOUTHSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [POWYS] Militia The Cambrian 16 June 1810 I am not quite sure what this is about - if anyone can explain I'd appreciate it. I am thinking it is a kind of insurance? Bristol, June1, 1810 NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC The Balloting for the Old Militia for some of the Counties commenced this day (the 1st of June, 1810), and it is presumed will be general throughout the kingdom in all this month. MILTIA ALL the men of ENGLAND and WALES, subject to the approaching MILITIA BALLOT, are most respectfully informed that they have an opportunity of becoming MEMBERS of an INSTITUTION, established in BRISTOL called THE UNION MILITIA CLUB of England and Wales, in which persons of every description are admitted. TERMS VIZ., 1st. A Subscription of HALF-A-GUINEA will entitle each Person drawn to serve and Enrolled, or by Substitute, to a proportion of the Funds of this Club, not exceeding Twelve Pounds Ten Shillings. 2d. A Subscription of ONE GUINEA will entitle each Person so drawn to serve and Enrolled, or by Substitute, to a proportion of the Funds of this Club, not exceeding Twenty-five Pounds. 3d. A Subscription of TWO GUINEAS will entitle each Person so drawn to serve and Enrolled, or by Substitute, to a proportion of the Funds of this Club, not exceeding Fifty Pounds. AGENTS in all the principal towns in ENGLAND and WALES are appointed to receive Subscriptions for all the Counties in the Kingdom, for which they will give each member so entering a Memorandum of receiving such Subscriptions, which will be transmitted to the Head Office, the Assembly Coffee-house, on the Quay, Bristol, for numerical arrangement, when Certificates will be immediately forwarded by first conveyance, and for which One shilling is to be paid to the Secretary. A. ABBOTT Administratrix to (J.K. ABOOTT, Head Office, the Assembly Coffee-house on the Quay, Bristol) Secretary: WHO HAS APPOINTED Messrs. STUCKEY. LEAN, HART and MANINGFORD, Bankers, Bristol, Treasurers. N.B. The Directors of this Institution consider it necessary to observe that though they do not pledge themselves to pay the several Members of this establishment, who may be enrolled, the full sums of Twelve Pounds Ten Shillings, Twenty-five Pounds, and Fifty Pounds, but only a proportion of the funds of the said Club, but they feel great pleasure in stating that, from the general received opinion of the success already obtained (being convinced that numbers secure the undertaking), have induced them to extend the boundaries of this Institution contrary to the practice of former years, that by such augmentation they have no doubt but the full sums of Twelve Pounds Ten Shillings, Twenty-five Pounds, and Fifty Pounds will be paid to the enrolled, and also a considerable division of the Subscription returned to the so drawn subscribers. Lyn Nunn Brisbane Australia =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lyn, Sounds like a friendly society: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendly_Society Can't find any specific references to it, though. Dave Matthews Corlette, Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyn Nunn" <lnunn@bigpond.net.au> To: <GLAMORGAN-L@rootsweb.com>; <powys@rootsweb.com>; <MONMOUTHSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 9:23 PM Subject: [POWYS] Militia The Cambrian 16 June 1810 >I am not quite sure what this is about - if anyone can explain I'd > appreciate it. I am thinking it is a kind of insurance? > > > > Bristol, June1, 1810 > > NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC > > The Balloting for the Old Militia for some of the Counties commenced this > day (the 1st of June, 1810), and it is presumed will be general throughout > the kingdom in all this month. > > MILTIA > > ALL the men of ENGLAND and WALES, subject to the approaching MILITIA > BALLOT, > are most respectfully informed that they have an opportunity of becoming > MEMBERS of an INSTITUTION, established in BRISTOL called > > THE UNION MILITIA CLUB of England and Wales, in which persons of every > description are admitted. > > TERMS VIZ., > > 1st. A Subscription of HALF-A-GUINEA will entitle each Person drawn to > serve > and Enrolled, or by Substitute, to a proportion of the Funds of this Club, > not exceeding Twelve Pounds Ten Shillings. > > 2d. A Subscription of ONE GUINEA will entitle each Person so drawn to > serve > and Enrolled, or by Substitute, to a proportion of the Funds of this Club, > not exceeding Twenty-five Pounds. > > 3d. A Subscription of TWO GUINEAS will entitle each Person so drawn to > serve > and Enrolled, or by Substitute, to a proportion of the Funds of this Club, > not exceeding Fifty Pounds. > > AGENTS in all the principal towns in ENGLAND and WALES are appointed to > receive Subscriptions for all the Counties in the Kingdom, for which they > will give each member so entering a Memorandum of receiving such > Subscriptions, which will be transmitted to the Head Office, the Assembly > Coffee-house, on the Quay, Bristol, for numerical arrangement, when > Certificates will be immediately forwarded by first conveyance, and for > which One shilling is to be paid to the Secretary. > > A. ABBOTT Administratrix to (J.K. ABOOTT, Head Office, the Assembly > Coffee-house on the Quay, Bristol) Secretary: WHO HAS APPOINTED Messrs. > STUCKEY. LEAN, HART and MANINGFORD, Bankers, Bristol, Treasurers. > > N.B. The Directors of this Institution consider it necessary to observe > that > though they do not pledge themselves to pay the several Members of this > establishment, who may be enrolled, the full sums of Twelve Pounds Ten > Shillings, Twenty-five Pounds, and Fifty Pounds, but only a proportion of > the funds of the said Club, but they feel great pleasure in stating that, > from the general received opinion of the success already obtained (being > convinced that numbers secure the undertaking), have induced them to > extend > the boundaries of this Institution contrary to the practice of former > years, > that by such augmentation they have no doubt but the full sums of Twelve > Pounds Ten Shillings, Twenty-five Pounds, and Fifty Pounds will be paid to > the enrolled, and also a considerable division of the Subscription > returned > to the so drawn subscribers. > > > > Lyn Nunn > > Brisbane > > Australia > > > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

I am not quite sure what this is about - if anyone can explain I'd appreciate it. I am thinking it is a kind of insurance? Bristol, June1, 1810 NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC The Balloting for the Old Militia for some of the Counties commenced this day (the 1st of June, 1810), and it is presumed will be general throughout the kingdom in all this month. MILTIA ALL the men of ENGLAND and WALES, subject to the approaching MILITIA BALLOT, are most respectfully informed that they have an opportunity of becoming MEMBERS of an INSTITUTION, established in BRISTOL called THE UNION MILITIA CLUB of England and Wales, in which persons of every description are admitted. TERMS VIZ., 1st. A Subscription of HALF-A-GUINEA will entitle each Person drawn to serve and Enrolled, or by Substitute, to a proportion of the Funds of this Club, not exceeding Twelve Pounds Ten Shillings. 2d. A Subscription of ONE GUINEA will entitle each Person so drawn to serve and Enrolled, or by Substitute, to a proportion of the Funds of this Club, not exceeding Twenty-five Pounds. 3d. A Subscription of TWO GUINEAS will entitle each Person so drawn to serve and Enrolled, or by Substitute, to a proportion of the Funds of this Club, not exceeding Fifty Pounds. AGENTS in all the principal towns in ENGLAND and WALES are appointed to receive Subscriptions for all the Counties in the Kingdom, for which they will give each member so entering a Memorandum of receiving such Subscriptions, which will be transmitted to the Head Office, the Assembly Coffee-house, on the Quay, Bristol, for numerical arrangement, when Certificates will be immediately forwarded by first conveyance, and for which One shilling is to be paid to the Secretary. A. ABBOTT Administratrix to (J.K. ABOOTT, Head Office, the Assembly Coffee-house on the Quay, Bristol) Secretary: WHO HAS APPOINTED Messrs. STUCKEY. LEAN, HART and MANINGFORD, Bankers, Bristol, Treasurers. N.B. The Directors of this Institution consider it necessary to observe that though they do not pledge themselves to pay the several Members of this establishment, who may be enrolled, the full sums of Twelve Pounds Ten Shillings, Twenty-five Pounds, and Fifty Pounds, but only a proportion of the funds of the said Club, but they feel great pleasure in stating that, from the general received opinion of the success already obtained (being convinced that numbers secure the undertaking), have induced them to extend the boundaries of this Institution contrary to the practice of former years, that by such augmentation they have no doubt but the full sums of Twelve Pounds Ten Shillings, Twenty-five Pounds, and Fifty Pounds will be paid to the enrolled, and also a considerable division of the Subscription returned to the so drawn subscribers. Lyn Nunn Brisbane Australia

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Can anyone give me directions to the following please? Crugau, Talgarth Evanfach, Talgarth and New House, Llanelieu. My DAVIES family lived in Llanelieu and Talgarth during the 1800's. I am also trying to find out more about Powells who were Blacksmiths in Talgath. Any help would be much appreciated. Regards, Alison Malvern, UK

I'm hoping someone can help with my search for information on my gt gt gt grandparents Jeremiah Brown and Elizabeth Mills. According to the census, Jeremiah was born in Llandinam in either 1807 or 1811 (depending on which census), and Elizabeth was born in Trefeglwys in about 1813. A friend recently visited the Powys Archives but was unable to find Jeremiah Brown's or Elizabeth Mills christenings at Llandinam or Trefeglwys, I wonder if anyone can suggest where else I can look? They were married at Llandinam Parish Church 24 April 1831, both were said to be "of this Parish". According to the Llandinam records they had 3 children christened there & lived at three different addresses Richard -2 Sep 1832 - Draintewion (labourer) Ann - 22 Feb 1835 - Old Barn (labourer) Elizabeth - 11 Mar 1838 - Beti Newydd (farmer) They had moved to Tredegar by 1840 where they had 5 more children. There is another Jeremiah Brown in the Llandinam records who was a farmer at Upper Gwerneirin between 1813 & 1820 - he was born in Moughtre about 1776 & married Elizabeth Ashton of Llandinam on 11 Oct 1803 in Llandinam; he had seven children christened at Llandinam between 1804 and 1820 but I can't link him to my Jeremiah. If anybody has any information on any of these families or on the properties where they lived, I would love to hear from you. Many thanks Hywel

Not at all Hilary - I thought I had posted it to Powys but I must have missed that one. Here are all the entries of Deaths for that issue. This morning, at his house in Swansea, after a long and tedious illness, Capt, William MANSEL, of the Royal Navy, deservedly regretted by all who knew him. Yesterday morning, at her mother's house, in Carmarthen, aged 16, of a decline, Miss LLOYD, second daughter of the late John LLOYD, Esq. of Allt-yr-Odyn. At Lanisnan, near Cardiff, Mrs WATKINS, wife of Mr. WATKINS, mercer, of that place. At Brecon, aged 78, Hugh BOLD, Esq. At Tyn-y-cwn, Samuel BEAVAN, Esq. upwards of 60 years a Magistrate for the county of Radnor. Mrs. EDWARDS, wife of John EDWARDS, Esq. of Kelsterton, Flintshire.

I will. Sorry, but I really didn't intend to send it that way. Me ----- Original Message ----- From: "Little Warren Farm" <littlewarrenfarm@btinternet.com> To: <powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [POWYS] Selina Beaven Breconshire > Dear Nancy, I wonder if you could change the title of the email - I > keep > thinking somone has information on my Selina Beaven. > > thanks > Diana > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nancy Strickland" <nts@sti.net> > To: <powys@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 10:55 PM > Subject: Re: [POWYS] Selina Beaven Breconshire > > >> Hi Dennis & Audrey, >> >> Good to hear from you and I suppose you also had a busy summer. We had >> company much of the time and didn't even take a trip over 'the pond' this >> year. The grandkids are grown up so fast and we try to not miss to much. >> Time seems to go by so fast each year. Now even the holidays are upon us >> again and the plan is to have them here in the mountains and the family >> gathers for days at a time. >> >> Tom bought a newer and bigger backhoe so he stays busy working and >> keeping up this place. I am going to try and keep in touch with my >> friends >> from work a little better so that will mean a few trips without Tom. We >> still have two dogs and one cat and they refuse to leave the place for a >> kennel. Tom has built an electric feeder for them all and it works for >> three >> weeks with feed and they have beds all over the place. >> >> Momma is going to be 89 this next week and my sister and I are going >> to >> work something for the ladies that live with here in a care home. Our >> summer >> is over and we are having a few rain showers yesterday and today so that >> means it is the end of the fire season. Keep in touch and love it when >> you >> send Probert data. I am working on the Probert website now and it should >> be >> up in a month. The database is over 118,000 entries and still growing. >> Love >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <DCLEATOND@aol.com> >> To: <powys@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 4:24 PM >> Subject: Re: [POWYS] Selina Beaven Breconshire >> >> >>> Hi Nancy, >>> >>> I hope all is well with you and yours in CA? I saw a 1851 reference to >>> the >>> Probert Baptist Minister and farmer when you were here last, he was at >>> Newbridge-on-Wye at my old Pentref Baptist Chapel I think.Will call you >>> again asap, >>> Yours, Dennis in RAD,Powys. We met a nice Probert lady at Llanyre when >>> the >>> three CA sisters were here after you came......She was ex Newbridge >>> school >>> like >>> me..... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> =================== >>> Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: >>> www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> =================== >> Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: >> www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Nancy, I wonder if you could change the title of the email - I keep thinking somone has information on my Selina Beaven. thanks Diana ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Strickland" <nts@sti.net> To: <powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 10:55 PM Subject: Re: [POWYS] Selina Beaven Breconshire > Hi Dennis & Audrey, > > Good to hear from you and I suppose you also had a busy summer. We had > company much of the time and didn't even take a trip over 'the pond' this > year. The grandkids are grown up so fast and we try to not miss to much. > Time seems to go by so fast each year. Now even the holidays are upon us > again and the plan is to have them here in the mountains and the family > gathers for days at a time. > > Tom bought a newer and bigger backhoe so he stays busy working and > keeping up this place. I am going to try and keep in touch with my friends > from work a little better so that will mean a few trips without Tom. We > still have two dogs and one cat and they refuse to leave the place for a > kennel. Tom has built an electric feeder for them all and it works for > three > weeks with feed and they have beds all over the place. > > Momma is going to be 89 this next week and my sister and I are going to > work something for the ladies that live with here in a care home. Our > summer > is over and we are having a few rain showers yesterday and today so that > means it is the end of the fire season. Keep in touch and love it when you > send Probert data. I am working on the Probert website now and it should > be > up in a month. The database is over 118,000 entries and still growing. > Love > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <DCLEATOND@aol.com> > To: <powys@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 4:24 PM > Subject: Re: [POWYS] Selina Beaven Breconshire > > >> Hi Nancy, >> >> I hope all is well with you and yours in CA? I saw a 1851 reference to >> the >> Probert Baptist Minister and farmer when you were here last, he was at >> Newbridge-on-Wye at my old Pentref Baptist Chapel I think.Will call you >> again asap, >> Yours, Dennis in RAD,Powys. We met a nice Probert lady at Llanyre when >> the >> three CA sisters were here after you came......She was ex Newbridge >> school >> like >> me..... >> >> >> >> >> >> =================== >> Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: >> www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

I came across this on archive.org Title Reports of the commissioners of inquiry into the state of education in Wales : apppointed by the Committee of council on education, in pursuance of proceedings in the House of commons, on the motion of Mr. Williams, of March 10, 1846, for an address to the Queen, praying Her Majesty to direct an inquiry to be made into the state of education in the principality of Wales, and especially into the means afforded to the labouring classes of acquiring a knowledge of the English language Creator Great Britain. Commissioners of Inquiry into the State of Education in Wales Publisher London : Printed by W. Clowes and sons, for H. M. Stationery off. Date 1848 http://www.archive.org/details/reportsofcommiss00greaiala The PDF file is 55MB There are descriptions of many schools in the report Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS

Hi Dennis & Audrey, Good to hear from you and I suppose you also had a busy summer. We had company much of the time and didn't even take a trip over 'the pond' this year. The grandkids are grown up so fast and we try to not miss to much. Time seems to go by so fast each year. Now even the holidays are upon us again and the plan is to have them here in the mountains and the family gathers for days at a time. Tom bought a newer and bigger backhoe so he stays busy working and keeping up this place. I am going to try and keep in touch with my friends from work a little better so that will mean a few trips without Tom. We still have two dogs and one cat and they refuse to leave the place for a kennel. Tom has built an electric feeder for them all and it works for three weeks with feed and they have beds all over the place. Momma is going to be 89 this next week and my sister and I are going to work something for the ladies that live with here in a care home. Our summer is over and we are having a few rain showers yesterday and today so that means it is the end of the fire season. Keep in touch and love it when you send Probert data. I am working on the Probert website now and it should be up in a month. The database is over 118,000 entries and still growing. Love ----- Original Message ----- From: <DCLEATOND@aol.com> To: <powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [POWYS] Selina Beaven Breconshire > Hi Nancy, > > I hope all is well with you and yours in CA? I saw a 1851 reference to the > Probert Baptist Minister and farmer when you were here last, he was at > Newbridge-on-Wye at my old Pentref Baptist Chapel I think.Will call you > again asap, > Yours, Dennis in RAD,Powys. We met a nice Probert lady at Llanyre when the > three CA sisters were here after you came......She was ex Newbridge school > like > me..... > > > > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Pictures of: Buildings, Merthyr Tydfil (GLA); and St George's Church, Tredegar (MON) Dear Listers, Next week's 'Retrospective Images of Wales' webpages, uploaded two days early onto my website, include: 1. A selection of buildings in the centre of Merthyr Tydfil, county of Glamorgan (seven pictures). This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in June 1998. 2. The parish church of St George's, Tredegar, in the county of Monmouthshire (four pictures). This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in September 1998. As usual, these webpages will be on display for about one week. 'Retrospective Images of Wales' is at www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/retro/retro.htm While there, take the time to explore my 'Webpage Archive' and make your own Retrospective requests. Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Godre'r Graig, near Swansea, Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2005.plus.com John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/ Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/ GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ Joint Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) mailing lists

Vista is a pain but I don't think we can turn the clock back. Maybe Windows will go broke because of it. ----- Original Message ----- From: <powys-request@rootsweb.com> To: <powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 5:55 PM Subject: POWYS Digest, Vol 2, Issue 268 > > > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to > which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. > Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides > with the message subject to which you are replying. > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: The Cambrian 18 Feb 1809 - the poor. (Hilary or Owen Williams) > 2. Jones and Price families in Disserth RAD (Dr Shirley Vinall) > 3. Pictures of: Buildings, Merthyr Tydfil (GLA); and St > George's Church, Tredegar (MON) (John Ball) > 4. Re: Selina Beaven Breconshire (Nancy Strickland) > 5. Re: Selina Beaven Breconshire (Nancy Strickland) > 6. Re: Selina Beaven Breconshire (Nancy Strickland) > 7. Re: Selina Beaven Breconshire (Nancy Strickland) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:54:03 +0100 > From: "Hilary or Owen Williams" <williams.o.h@ic24.net> > Subject: Re: [POWYS] The Cambrian 18 Feb 1809 - the poor. > To: <powys@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <E1IYfCN-000COM-Ij@smtp2.global.net.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" > > HI Lyn, > > I hope you don't mind me copying a part of your Cambrian Notices from > Glamorgan l onto this site as the 2 notices shown below are of relevance > to > Powys. > > "The Cambrian 18 Feb 1809 > > At Brecon, aged 78, Hugh BOLD, Esq. > > At Tyn-y-cwn, Samuel BEAVAN, Esq. upwards of 60 years a Magistrate for the > county of Radnor." > > Hugh Bold was a descendent of the Winter/Wynter family of Brecon, members > of > which held high office under the Duke of Buckingham and under the Monarchs > following the union of Wales with England. > Anyone interested in the Winter/Wynter family of England & Wales > (including > BRE) see the web book "The Golden Falcon" @ > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pillagoda/index.htm > > I am also descended form the BRE Winter/Wynter family, so would also be > interested in any new contacts. > > Kind regards, > > Hilary > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: powys-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powys-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Lyn Nunn > Sent: 20 September 2007 22:17 > To: powys@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [POWYS] The Cambrian 18 Feb 1809 - the poor. > > Thanks Hilary, it was interesting. My BEAVEN family oral tradition claims > links to the Morgan's of Tredegar but I think they are confused. That is > the > most detail I have been able to find on the web I think so far. > Regards > > Lyn > > -----Original Message----- > From: powys-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powys-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Hilary or Owen Williams > Sent: Friday, 21 September 2007 3:03 AM > To: powys@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [POWYS] The Cambrian 18 Feb 1809 - the poor. > > Hi Lyn, > > You and others might be interested in the Biographical details of the > Morgan > Family of Tredegar at http://yba.llgc.org.uk/en/s-MORG-TRE-1384.html > > Kind regards, > > Hilary > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.25/1018 - Release Date: > 19/09/2007 > 15:59 > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.27/1020 - Release Date: > 20/09/2007 > 12:07 > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: 21 Sep 2007 15:45:43 +0100 > From: Dr Shirley Vinall <s.w.vinall@reading.ac.uk> > Subject: [POWYS] Jones and Price families in Disserth RAD > To: Powys@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <Prayer.1.0.18.0709211545430.14514@vimb4.rdg.ac.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Dear list, > > I should be interested in contacting others researching these two families > from Disserth (Radnorshire). > > Ebenezer Jones (c. 1794-1849) a weaver, living at Llyn (or Llwyn?), > Disserth in 1841; wife Ann (nee Evans), born Disserth c. 1794; children > including Edward (1820-21), Mary (born c. 1820), Martha (born and died > 1822), Martha (born c. 1823), Ann (born c. 1826), Edward (born c. 1829), > Ebenezer (born c. 1833), Phoebe (born c. 1834). > > Evan Price (born Llanyre c. 1789), farmer of Red House, Trecoed, Disserth > in 1841 and 1851; wife Anne (born Llanyre c. 1800); children including > Anne > (born c. 1822), Jane (c. 1828), Evan (born c. 1828 or 1831), Alice (born > c. > 1830), Henry (born c. 1834), Eliza (born c. 1840), Penry (born c. 1842). I > believe some later generations of this family had connections with Builth > quarries, but as yet have no proof of this. > > Edward Jones (son of Ebenezer) and Jane/Janet Price (daughter of Evan), my > great-great-grandparents, were married at St Mary's, Builth, in 1853, and > had two children, Mary Jane (born 1854) and Henry Edward (born 1856). The > family lived in Cwmbach and Brecon, and later, after Edward's death and, > seemingly, after a second marriage of Jane to an as yet unknown Price, > were > based in Builth for many years. > > All information very gratefully received. > Many thanks > Shirley > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:45:37 +0100 (BST) > From: "John Ball" <john@jlb2005.plus.com> > Subject: [POWYS] Pictures of: Buildings, Merthyr Tydfil (GLA); > and St George's Church, Tredegar (MON) > To: powys@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <5928.81.178.248.94.1190400337.squirrel@webmail.plus.net> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 > > Pictures of: Buildings, Merthyr Tydfil (GLA); and St George's Church, > Tredegar (MON) > > > Dear Listers, > > Next week's 'Retrospective Images of Wales' webpages, uploaded two days > early onto my website, include: > > 1. A selection of buildings in the centre of Merthyr Tydfil, county of > Glamorgan (seven pictures). This feature was first shown on 'Images of > Wales' in June 1998. > > 2. The parish church of St George's, Tredegar, in the county of > Monmouthshire (four pictures). This feature was first shown on 'Images of > Wales' in September 1998. > > As usual, these webpages will be on display for about one week. > > 'Retrospective Images of Wales' is at > www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/retro/retro.htm > > While there, take the time to explore my 'Webpage Archive' and make your > own Retrospective requests. > > Kind regards, > > John > -------------------- > John Ball, Godre'r Graig, near Swansea, Wales, UK > E-mail: john@jlb2005.plus.com > John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/ > Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/ > Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/ > > GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ > Joint Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) mailing lists > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 12:49:06 -0700 > From: "Nancy Strickland" <nts@sti.net> > Subject: Re: [POWYS] Selina Beaven Breconshire > To: <powys@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <046a01c7fc88$78878e50$0600000a@Nancy1> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Thank you for the additional info on the blind Elizabath Probert. I had > her > in one census and now I have more data on her. I am busy trying to put the > database online and the designer is in the last stages, I hope. Thanks > again. Nancy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <MJen512444@aol.com> > To: <powys@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 3:00 AM > Subject: Re: [POWYS] Selina Beaven Breconshire > > >> Hello Diana, >> >> The best way for you to find out about Skkynlas I suppose, is to look at >> the >> National Library of Wales website, and type in Skynlas. >> >> For now though. I can tell you it is Glasebury. Now there are two >> parts >> to >> Glasebury. Half in Breconshire and half in Radnorshire. So, borderline >> in >> any case. >> >> Llandeilo Graban is in Radnorshire, but close to the border with >> Breconshire. Llandewi Cwm is just over the border into Breconshire, and >> one of my >> family moved to a farm there in 1891. >> >> The next parish from Llandeilo Graban is Llanbedr Painscastle, which is >> not >> far from Hay on Wye. >> >> The Skynlas connection goes back to the early 1800s and even into the >> 1700s. >> >> There is an elizabeth Probert, blind from birth according to the census >> information, and she seems to have been shunted from one of the family to >> the >> next in each census year. But, she was connected to the Smith side of my >> family >> from Llanbedr Painscastle. And it was the Smith line that married into >> the >> Baptist cause. >> >> Elizabeth Probert was a daughter of Revd. Evan Probert. I believe he >> died >> in Bristol. I was told that, I have not found him. A cousin in Florida >> and I >> took a great interest in poor Elizabeth Probert. >> >> If you think I am being too vague, then I am sorry. But, I have been >> doing >> family history research for 26 years, so have gathered all sorts of >> information from all over the country in that time. Not through the >> internet either. >> Ground work mostly. So, you see, I have hundreds of names and places >> floating around in my head. Some of the details buried just below the >> surface. >> >> If I find anything more specifice for you,I shall be sure and let you >> know. >> Don't worry. >> >> At present though, I am very tied up helping someone from Llanelli with >> their tree, so my head is full of that at the moment. >> >> Good to hear from you though. >> thanks, >> >> Maureen >> >> >> >> >> >> =================== >> Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: >> www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:37:10 -0700 > From: "Nancy Strickland" <nts@sti.net> > Subject: Re: [POWYS] Selina Beaven Breconshire > To: <powys@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <04e101c7fc97$91313190$0600000a@Nancy1> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Maureen, You probably have these records but just in case there is > another clue: > New-probertcd3 Query2 First Name Last Name Age Event Mo/Da Year > Parish/Town Location Parents Spouse Occupation Comments First Name of > Submitters Last Name of Submitters > elizabeth probert 40 census 00-00 1871 > llanbachhowey,llanbedr,painscastle radnor lived with james smith-wife,eliz > price > blind from birth Mareen Jenkins, researcher's records of Powys(Mar.2, > 2001) Mareen Jenkins > elizabeth probert 30 census 00-00 1861 bettws disserth,builth brecon > niece of ? unmarried blind - lf36l-p1 Powys, Wales Census of 1861 > > > elizabeth probert 30 census 00-00 1861 gwyn-fach powys niece > unmarried > blind Powys Family History Society, 1861 Census for Radnor > > > elizabeth probert 30 census 00-00 1861 gwyn-fach,bettws,disserth > radnor niece of sarah price-b1801 unmarried blind/g-moth head of house > 1861 > Census, Radnor, Powys, Family History Society > > > elizabeth probert 22 census 00-00 1851 yirnsbach,(llandrindod?) > radnor > niece of william price-b1798 unmarried niece of farmer/minister's > daughter/blind Recyclegen.com - records > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <MJen512444@aol.com> > To: <powys@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 3:00 AM > Subject: Re: [POWYS] Selina Beaven Breconshire > > >> Hello Diana, >> >> The best way for you to find out about Skkynlas I suppose, is to look at >> the >> National Library of Wales website, and type in Skynlas. >> >> For now though. I can tell you it is Glasebury. Now there are two >> parts >> to >> Glasebury. Half in Breconshire and half in Radnorshire. So, borderline >> in >> any case. >> >> Llandeilo Graban is in Radnorshire, but close to the border with >> Breconshire. Llandewi Cwm is just over the border into Breconshire, and >> one of my >> family moved to a farm there in 1891. >> >> The next parish from Llandeilo Graban is Llanbedr Painscastle, which is >> not >> far from Hay on Wye. >> >> The Skynlas connection goes back to the early 1800s and even into the >> 1700s. >> >> There is an elizabeth Probert, blind from birth according to the census >> information, and she seems to have been shunted from one of the family to >> the >> next in each census year. But, she was connected to the Smith side of my >> family >> from Llanbedr Painscastle. And it was the Smith line that married into >> the >> Baptist cause. >> >> Elizabeth Probert was a daughter of Revd. Evan Probert. I believe he >> died >> in Bristol. I was told that, I have not found him. A cousin in Florida >> and I >> took a great interest in poor Elizabeth Probert. >> >> If you think I am being too vague, then I am sorry. But, I have been >> doing >> family history research for 26 years, so have gathered all sorts of >> information from all over the country in that time. Not through the >> internet either. >> Ground work mostly. So, you see, I have hundreds of names and places >> floating around in my head. Some of the details buried just below the >> surface. >> >> If I find anything more specifice for you,I shall be sure and let you >> know. >> Don't worry. >> >> At present though, I am very tied up helping someone from Llanelli with >> their tree, so my head is full of that at the moment. >> >> Good to hear from you though. >> thanks, >> >> Maureen >> >> >> >> >> >> =================== >> Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: >> www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:42:00 -0700 > From: "Nancy Strickland" <nts@sti.net> > Subject: Re: [POWYS] Selina Beaven Breconshire > To: <powys@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <04e401c7fc98$3df16fd0$0600000a@Nancy1> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I just realized that one of the places Elizabeth is with a PROBERT is > Llandrindod and my family is from there. I am sending other things I have > found. > New-probertcd3 Query2 First Name Last Name Age Event Mo/Da Year > Parish/Town Location Parents Spouse Occupation Comments First Name of > Submitters Last Name of Submitters > elizabeth probert 22 census 00-00 1851 yirnsbach,(llandrindod?) > radnor > niece of william price-b1798 unmarried niece of farmer/minister's > daughter/blind Recyclegen.com - records > > > elizabeth probert > birth 00-00 1829 yirnsbach,(llandrindod?) radnor niece of william > price-b1798 unmarried neice of farmer/minister's daughter/blind > Recyclegen.com - records > > > > > > New-probertcd3 Query2 First Name Last Name Age Event Mo/Da Year > Parish/Town Location Parents Spouse Occupation Comments First Name of > Submitters Last Name of Submitters > elizabeth probert 40 census 00-00 1871 llanbach howey,llanbedr > painscastle radnor (prob relative to william-b1851) > visitor to james smith-b1806 RootsWeb.com - Mailing List Archives > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <MJen512444@aol.com> > To: <powys@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 3:00 AM > Subject: Re: [POWYS] Selina Beaven Breconshire > > >> Hello Diana, >> >> The best way for you to find out about Skkynlas I suppose, is to look at >> the >> National Library of Wales website, and type in Skynlas. >> >> For now though. I can tell you it is Glasebury. Now there are two >> parts >> to >> Glasebury. Half in Breconshire and half in Radnorshire. So, borderline >> in >> any case. >> >> Llandeilo Graban is in Radnorshire, but close to the border with >> Breconshire. Llandewi Cwm is just over the border into Breconshire, and >> one of my >> family moved to a farm there in 1891. >> >> The next parish from Llandeilo Graban is Llanbedr Painscastle, which is >> not >> far from Hay on Wye. >> >> The Skynlas connection goes back to the early 1800s and even into the >> 1700s. >> >> There is an elizabeth Probert, blind from birth according to the census >> information, and she seems to have been shunted from one of the family to >> the >> next in each census year. But, she was connected to the Smith side of my >> family >> from Llanbedr Painscastle. And it was the Smith line that married into >> the >> Baptist cause. >> >> Elizabeth Probert was a daughter of Revd. Evan Probert. I believe he >> died >> in Bristol. I was told that, I have not found him. A cousin in Florida >> and I >> took a great interest in poor Elizabeth Probert. >> >> If you think I am being too vague, then I am sorry. But, I have been >> doing >> family history research for 26 years, so have gathered all sorts of >> information from all over the country in that time. Not through the >> internet either. >> Ground work mostly. So, you see, I have hundreds of names and places >> floating around in my head. Some of the details buried just below the >> surface. >> >> If I find anything more specifice for you,I shall be sure and let you >> know. >> Don't worry. >> >> At present though, I am very tied up helping someone from Llanelli with >> their tree, so my head is full of that at the moment. >> >> Good to hear from you though. >> thanks, >> >> Maureen >> >> >> >> >> >> =================== >> Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: >> www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:44:09 -0700 > From: "Nancy Strickland" <nts@sti.net> > Subject: Re: [POWYS] Selina Beaven Breconshire > To: <powys@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <04e701c7fc98$8b09c3d0$0600000a@Nancy1> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > New-probertcd3 Query2 First Name Last Name Age Event Mo/Da Year > Parish/Town Location Parents Spouse Occupation Comments First Name of > Submitters Last Name of Submitters > elizabeth probert 22 census 00-00 1851 yirnsbach,(llandrindod?) > radnor > niece of william price-b1798 unmarried niece of farmer/minister's > daughter/blind Recyclegen.com - records > > > elizabeth probert > birth 00-00 1829 yirnsbach,(llandrindod?) radnor niece of william > price-b1798 unmarried neice of farmer/minister's daughter/blind > Recyclegen.com - records > > > elizabeth probert > birth 01-08 1840 newbridge,newbridge on wye,llandrindod radnor > william-ann price > father a shoemaker Llandrindod Wells Births, R.J.Meredith researcher > R.J. Meredith > elizabeth probert > birth 09-30 1856 brook, llanyre,llandrindod radnor ebenezer-mary bowen > father a shoemaker Llandrindod Wells Births, R.J.Meredith researcher > R.J. Meredith > elizabeth probert > birth 08-09 1875 glangwy,llanyre,llandrindod radnor edward-jane jones > father an ag labourer Llandrindod Wells Births, R.J.Meredith > researcher > R.J. Meredith > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <MJen512444@aol.com> > To: <powys@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 3:00 AM > Subject: Re: [POWYS] Selina Beaven Breconshire > > >> Hello Diana, >> >> The best way for you to find out about Skkynlas I suppose, is to look at >> the >> National Library of Wales website, and type in Skynlas. >> >> For now though. I can tell you it is Glasebury. Now there are two >> parts >> to >> Glasebury. Half in Breconshire and half in Radnorshire. So, borderline >> in >> any case. >> >> Llandeilo Graban is in Radnorshire, but close to the border with >> Breconshire. Llandewi Cwm is just over the border into Breconshire, and >> one of my >> family moved to a farm there in 1891. >> >> The next parish from Llandeilo Graban is Llanbedr Painscastle, which is >> not >> far from Hay on Wye. >> >> The Skynlas connection goes back to the early 1800s and even into the >> 1700s. >> >> There is an elizabeth Probert, blind from birth according to the census >> information, and she seems to have been shunted from one of the family to >> the >> next in each census year. But, she was connected to the Smith side of my >> family >> from Llanbedr Painscastle. And it was the Smith line that married into >> the >> Baptist cause. >> >> Elizabeth Probert was a daughter of Revd. Evan Probert. I believe he >> died >> in Bristol. I was told that, I have not found him. A cousin in Florida >> and I >> took a great interest in poor Elizabeth Probert. >> >> If you think I am being too vague, then I am sorry. But, I have been >> doing >> family history research for 26 years, so have gathered all sorts of >> information from all over the country in that time. Not through the >> internet either. >> Ground work mostly. So, you see, I have hundreds of names and places >> floating around in my head. Some of the details buried just below the >> surface. >> >> If I find anything more specifice for you,I shall be sure and let you >> know. >> Don't worry. >> >> At present though, I am very tied up helping someone from Llanelli with >> their tree, so my head is full of that at the moment. >> >> Good to hear from you though. >> thanks, >> >> Maureen >> >> >> >> >> >> =================== >> Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: >> www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the POWYS list administrator, send an email to > POWYS-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the POWYS mailing list, send an email to > POWYS@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of POWYS Digest, Vol 2, Issue 268 > ************************************* >

Hi Nancy, I hope all is well with you and yours in CA? I saw a 1851 reference to the Probert Baptist Minister and farmer when you were here last, he was at Newbridge-on-Wye at my old Pentref Baptist Chapel I think.Will call you again asap, Yours, Dennis in RAD,Powys. We met a nice Probert lady at Llanyre when the three CA sisters were here after you came......She was ex Newbridge school like me.....

Dear list, I should be interested in contacting others researching these two families from Disserth (Radnorshire). Ebenezer Jones (c. 1794-1849) a weaver, living at Llyn (or Llwyn?), Disserth in 1841; wife Ann (nee Evans), born Disserth c. 1794; children including Edward (1820-21), Mary (born c. 1820), Martha (born and died 1822), Martha (born c. 1823), Ann (born c. 1826), Edward (born c. 1829), Ebenezer (born c. 1833), Phoebe (born c. 1834). Evan Price (born Llanyre c. 1789), farmer of Red House, Trecoed, Disserth in 1841 and 1851; wife Anne (born Llanyre c. 1800); children including Anne (born c. 1822), Jane (c. 1828), Evan (born c. 1828 or 1831), Alice (born c. 1830), Henry (born c. 1834), Eliza (born c. 1840), Penry (born c. 1842). I believe some later generations of this family had connections with Builth quarries, but as yet have no proof of this. Edward Jones (son of Ebenezer) and Jane/Janet Price (daughter of Evan), my great-great-grandparents, were married at St Mary's, Builth, in 1853, and had two children, Mary Jane (born 1854) and Henry Edward (born 1856). The family lived in Cwmbach and Brecon, and later, after Edward's death and, seemingly, after a second marriage of Jane to an as yet unknown Price, were based in Builth for many years. All information very gratefully received. Many thanks Shirley

New-probertcd3 Query2 First Name Last Name Age Event Mo/Da Year Parish/Town Location Parents Spouse Occupation Comments First Name of Submitters Last Name of Submitters elizabeth probert 22 census 00-00 1851 yirnsbach,(llandrindod?) radnor niece of william price-b1798 unmarried niece of farmer/minister's daughter/blind Recyclegen.com - records elizabeth probert birth 00-00 1829 yirnsbach,(llandrindod?) radnor niece of william price-b1798 unmarried neice of farmer/minister's daughter/blind Recyclegen.com - records elizabeth probert birth 01-08 1840 newbridge,newbridge on wye,llandrindod radnor william-ann price father a shoemaker Llandrindod Wells Births, R.J.Meredith researcher R.J. Meredith elizabeth probert birth 09-30 1856 brook, llanyre,llandrindod radnor ebenezer-mary bowen father a shoemaker Llandrindod Wells Births, R.J.Meredith researcher R.J. Meredith elizabeth probert birth 08-09 1875 glangwy,llanyre,llandrindod radnor edward-jane jones father an ag labourer Llandrindod Wells Births, R.J.Meredith researcher R.J. Meredith ----- Original Message ----- From: <MJen512444@aol.com> To: <powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 3:00 AM Subject: Re: [POWYS] Selina Beaven Breconshire > Hello Diana, > > The best way for you to find out about Skkynlas I suppose, is to look at > the > National Library of Wales website, and type in Skynlas. > > For now though. I can tell you it is Glasebury. Now there are two parts > to > Glasebury. Half in Breconshire and half in Radnorshire. So, borderline > in > any case. > > Llandeilo Graban is in Radnorshire, but close to the border with > Breconshire. Llandewi Cwm is just over the border into Breconshire, and > one of my > family moved to a farm there in 1891. > > The next parish from Llandeilo Graban is Llanbedr Painscastle, which is > not > far from Hay on Wye. > > The Skynlas connection goes back to the early 1800s and even into the > 1700s. > > There is an elizabeth Probert, blind from birth according to the census > information, and she seems to have been shunted from one of the family to > the > next in each census year. But, she was connected to the Smith side of my > family > from Llanbedr Painscastle. And it was the Smith line that married into > the > Baptist cause. > > Elizabeth Probert was a daughter of Revd. Evan Probert. I believe he > died > in Bristol. I was told that, I have not found him. A cousin in Florida > and I > took a great interest in poor Elizabeth Probert. > > If you think I am being too vague, then I am sorry. But, I have been > doing > family history research for 26 years, so have gathered all sorts of > information from all over the country in that time. Not through the > internet either. > Ground work mostly. So, you see, I have hundreds of names and places > floating around in my head. Some of the details buried just below the > surface. > > If I find anything more specifice for you,I shall be sure and let you > know. > Don't worry. > > At present though, I am very tied up helping someone from Llanelli with > their tree, so my head is full of that at the moment. > > Good to hear from you though. > thanks, > > Maureen > > > > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

I just realized that one of the places Elizabeth is with a PROBERT is Llandrindod and my family is from there. I am sending other things I have found. New-probertcd3 Query2 First Name Last Name Age Event Mo/Da Year Parish/Town Location Parents Spouse Occupation Comments First Name of Submitters Last Name of Submitters elizabeth probert 22 census 00-00 1851 yirnsbach,(llandrindod?) radnor niece of william price-b1798 unmarried niece of farmer/minister's daughter/blind Recyclegen.com - records elizabeth probert birth 00-00 1829 yirnsbach,(llandrindod?) radnor niece of william price-b1798 unmarried neice of farmer/minister's daughter/blind Recyclegen.com - records New-probertcd3 Query2 First Name Last Name Age Event Mo/Da Year Parish/Town Location Parents Spouse Occupation Comments First Name of Submitters Last Name of Submitters elizabeth probert 40 census 00-00 1871 llanbach howey,llanbedr painscastle radnor (prob relative to william-b1851) visitor to james smith-b1806 RootsWeb.com - Mailing List Archives ----- Original Message ----- From: <MJen512444@aol.com> To: <powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 3:00 AM Subject: Re: [POWYS] Selina Beaven Breconshire > Hello Diana, > > The best way for you to find out about Skkynlas I suppose, is to look at > the > National Library of Wales website, and type in Skynlas. > > For now though. I can tell you it is Glasebury. Now there are two parts > to > Glasebury. Half in Breconshire and half in Radnorshire. So, borderline > in > any case. > > Llandeilo Graban is in Radnorshire, but close to the border with > Breconshire. Llandewi Cwm is just over the border into Breconshire, and > one of my > family moved to a farm there in 1891. > > The next parish from Llandeilo Graban is Llanbedr Painscastle, which is > not > far from Hay on Wye. > > The Skynlas connection goes back to the early 1800s and even into the > 1700s. > > There is an elizabeth Probert, blind from birth according to the census > information, and she seems to have been shunted from one of the family to > the > next in each census year. But, she was connected to the Smith side of my > family > from Llanbedr Painscastle. And it was the Smith line that married into > the > Baptist cause. > > Elizabeth Probert was a daughter of Revd. Evan Probert. I believe he > died > in Bristol. I was told that, I have not found him. A cousin in Florida > and I > took a great interest in poor Elizabeth Probert. > > If you think I am being too vague, then I am sorry. But, I have been > doing > family history research for 26 years, so have gathered all sorts of > information from all over the country in that time. Not through the > internet either. > Ground work mostly. So, you see, I have hundreds of names and places > floating around in my head. Some of the details buried just below the > surface. > > If I find anything more specifice for you,I shall be sure and let you > know. > Don't worry. > > At present though, I am very tied up helping someone from Llanelli with > their tree, so my head is full of that at the moment. > > Good to hear from you though. > thanks, > > Maureen > > > > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Maureen, You probably have these records but just in case there is another clue: New-probertcd3 Query2 First Name Last Name Age Event Mo/Da Year Parish/Town Location Parents Spouse Occupation Comments First Name of Submitters Last Name of Submitters elizabeth probert 40 census 00-00 1871 llanbachhowey,llanbedr,painscastle radnor lived with james smith-wife,eliz price blind from birth Mareen Jenkins, researcher's records of Powys(Mar.2, 2001) Mareen Jenkins elizabeth probert 30 census 00-00 1861 bettws disserth,builth brecon niece of ? unmarried blind - lf36l-p1 Powys, Wales Census of 1861 elizabeth probert 30 census 00-00 1861 gwyn-fach powys niece unmarried blind Powys Family History Society, 1861 Census for Radnor elizabeth probert 30 census 00-00 1861 gwyn-fach,bettws,disserth radnor niece of sarah price-b1801 unmarried blind/g-moth head of house 1861 Census, Radnor, Powys, Family History Society elizabeth probert 22 census 00-00 1851 yirnsbach,(llandrindod?) radnor niece of william price-b1798 unmarried niece of farmer/minister's daughter/blind Recyclegen.com - records ----- Original Message ----- From: <MJen512444@aol.com> To: <powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 3:00 AM Subject: Re: [POWYS] Selina Beaven Breconshire > Hello Diana, > > The best way for you to find out about Skkynlas I suppose, is to look at > the > National Library of Wales website, and type in Skynlas. > > For now though. I can tell you it is Glasebury. Now there are two parts > to > Glasebury. Half in Breconshire and half in Radnorshire. So, borderline > in > any case. > > Llandeilo Graban is in Radnorshire, but close to the border with > Breconshire. Llandewi Cwm is just over the border into Breconshire, and > one of my > family moved to a farm there in 1891. > > The next parish from Llandeilo Graban is Llanbedr Painscastle, which is > not > far from Hay on Wye. > > The Skynlas connection goes back to the early 1800s and even into the > 1700s. > > There is an elizabeth Probert, blind from birth according to the census > information, and she seems to have been shunted from one of the family to > the > next in each census year. But, she was connected to the Smith side of my > family > from Llanbedr Painscastle. And it was the Smith line that married into > the > Baptist cause. > > Elizabeth Probert was a daughter of Revd. Evan Probert. I believe he > died > in Bristol. I was told that, I have not found him. A cousin in Florida > and I > took a great interest in poor Elizabeth Probert. > > If you think I am being too vague, then I am sorry. But, I have been > doing > family history research for 26 years, so have gathered all sorts of > information from all over the country in that time. Not through the > internet either. > Ground work mostly. So, you see, I have hundreds of names and places > floating around in my head. Some of the details buried just below the > surface. > > If I find anything more specifice for you,I shall be sure and let you > know. > Don't worry. > > At present though, I am very tied up helping someone from Llanelli with > their tree, so my head is full of that at the moment. > > Good to hear from you though. > thanks, > > Maureen > > > > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message