What is it about Academia and the MANTLE Family (I noted the "ac" in your email address), my previous MANTLE contact was on University Challenge a year or so ago! To MANTLE: does Richard MANTLE (Ag Lab/Farmer)& Sarah RICHARDS of Sunny Bank, Llanbadarn Fynnydd from the 1841/51 Censuses ring any bells? My wife's descends from their daughter Mary born 1827, that in 1852 married Evan FARMER b 1828 Llandewi, RAD. Graham of Salop -----Original Message----- From: powys-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powys-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Shirley Vinall Sent: 24 October 2007 13:13 To: powys@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [POWYS] Registrar in Newtown Dear Derek, I would be grateful to exchange information as I am also interested in the Mantle family in Montgomeryshire and Radnorshire (especially Mochdre and Llanbadarn Fynydd). Thanks! Shirley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Savage" <dereksavage@btinternet.com> To: <powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [POWYS] Registrar in Newtown > Georgina > > The following site gives Birth, Marriage and Death Indexes for North Wales > including Newtown, Montgomeryshire: > > http://www.northwalesbmd.org.uk/bmd_welcome.html > > > Regards > Derek Savage > Researching the Mantle family of Newchapel, Montgomeryshire and > Tylwch, Radnorshire > > > -----Original Message----- > From: powys-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powys-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Suttonian1@aol.com > Sent: 23 October 2007 20:23 > To: POWYS@rootsweb.com > Subject: [POWYS] Registrar in Newtown > > Hi > > Is the Newtown Registration Office online? > > thanks > > > Georgina Goodby Fisher > formerly from Sutton Coldfield > now in Orange, Calif 6 miles east of Disneyland > One Name Study of Goodby > Goons Member No. 4148 > > > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.8/1089 - Release Date: 23/10/2007 19:39 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.8/1089 - Release Date: 23/10/2007 19:39 ___________________________________________________________ All new Yahoo! Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html
Hi Graham, I have a link with this family and will write further off list as the relationship is a bit complicated. Kind Regards Tricia Heseltine
In a message dated 10/24/2007 4:40:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, annbryan2002@yahoo.co.uk writes: Georgina, I have 2 Elizabeth Humphreys in my tree. Elizabeth b 1851 to Edward Humphreys and Mary Humphreys. Also Elizabeth b 1828 to Matthew Humphreys and Margaret Woosnam. This Elizabeth married John Jones. They all lived in the Llandinam area of Montgomeryshire. If either of these 2 Elizabeth's are also yours, let me know and perhaps I can give you more details. Hi Ann, Sorry no connection. Elizabeth Tanner b. 1802 in Bettws had a son out of wedlock Edward Tanner b.1822(his father was actually Richard Rogers, a tailor of Berriew and is well documented). She married Lewis Humprheys a widower in 1824. Funny though, I do have another Elizabeth Humphreys b.1853 married to a John Jones b.1859. Her parents were James Humphreys and Mary Ann Tudor. James was the son of Lewis and Elizabeth above. regards Georgina ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
Sorry about the several duplicate posts from me about this subject, but I have no idea what happened. I didn't click more than once ...;) Georgina ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
Dear Derek, I would be grateful to exchange information as I am also interested in the Mantle family in Montgomeryshire and Radnorshire (especially Mochdre and Llanbadarn Fynydd). Thanks! Shirley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Savage" <dereksavage@btinternet.com> To: <powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [POWYS] Registrar in Newtown > Georgina > > The following site gives Birth, Marriage and Death Indexes for North Wales > including Newtown, Montgomeryshire: > > http://www.northwalesbmd.org.uk/bmd_welcome.html > > > Regards > Derek Savage > Researching the Mantle family of Newchapel, Montgomeryshire and > Tylwch, Radnorshire > > > -----Original Message----- > From: powys-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powys-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Suttonian1@aol.com > Sent: 23 October 2007 20:23 > To: POWYS@rootsweb.com > Subject: [POWYS] Registrar in Newtown > > Hi > > Is the Newtown Registration Office online? > > thanks > > > Georgina Goodby Fisher > formerly from Sutton Coldfield > now in Orange, Calif 6 miles east of Disneyland > One Name Study of Goodby > Goons Member No. 4148 > > > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Georgina, I have 2 Elizabeth Humphreys in my tree. Elizabeth b 1851 to Edward Humphreys and Mary Humphreys. Also Elizabeth b 1828 to Matthew Humphreys and Margaret Woosnam. This Elizabeth married John Jones. They all lived in the Llandinam area of Montgomeryshire. If either of these 2 Elizabeth's are also yours, let me know and perhaps I can give you more details. Regards. Ann. --------------------------------- For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit Yahoo! For Good this month.
Ok, Denise, I'll get on to it. Maesbury is in Shropshire, and my brother-in-law comes from there !! Small world isn't it ! By the way, I did try looking on Ancestry and wasn't able to find him or his brother on the censuses after 1881. But I'll look again ! William ----- Original Message ----- From: "DENISE DOWNES" <denise.downes1@btinternet.com> To: <powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [POWYS] help please > hi william died at maesbury marsh in 1920 his wife was jane griffiths > born 1876 in worthern > > denise > > William Williams <wi11iam4.t.1913@tesco.net> wrote: > Denise, > > Do you have a place for William's death ? Oswestry is very close to the > border with Montgomeryshire, so he could well have been in Shrophire at > the > time of death. > I know the area fairly well; most of my own research is centred around > that > area ! > > William > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "DENISE DOWNES" > To: > Cc: > > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 11:58 AM > Subject: [POWYS] help please > > >> Hi List >> >> Please can you help me recently I received the death certificates of >> two brothers >> John and William Jones, several of you kindly helped me with clarifying >> what they actually died from,,I had assumed that William had died as I ( >> had / have ) never found him after 1881 >> >> I am asking now if anyone could look for them please, on the 1891 and >> 1901 census >> >> John Jones was born 1866 church stoke montgomeryshire >> William Jones was born 1872 church stoke montgomeryshire. >> >> children of William and Catherine Jones, born church stoke, William was a >> miller and moved around quiet a lot, however he was back in church stoke >> in 1891 >> with all children except William and john. chances are they both followed >> their fathers trade as millers john died in much wenlock in 1945 whilst >> William died in 1920 near oswestry >> >> many thanks Denise >> >> >> =================== >> Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: >> www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message
4. And my grandfather Henry Tompson was born in Mochre, that pretty little place by a small river. His father John E Tompson was the vicar (1870s). Sadly, his wife Caroline died when Henry was very young, and her gravestone is by the path at the right of the church door...Henry came to Canada, eventually... Did you hear this story about Mochre? One very dark and stormy night, the railway bridge washed out at Mochre. It was an hour before the train was due to come through. It was so black and the rain was coming down so heavily, that the driver would likely not see that the tracks had disappeared. A woman was the first to see this problem. She immediately ran and ran and ran and got to the station before Mochdre, just a minute before the train arrived. Breathlessly, she advised the locomotive engineer. So the train, its products, and all the people were saved that night from destruction. EE 3. -----Original Message----- Behalf Of Shirley Vinall Sent: October 24, 2007 5:13 AM Subject: Re: [POWYS] Registrar in Newtown Dear Derek, I would be grateful to exchange information as I am also interested in the Mantle family in Montgomeryshire and Radnorshire (especially Mochdre and Llanbadarn Fynydd). 2. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Savage" <dereksavage@btinternet.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 10:42 PM > Georgina > > The following site gives Birth, Marriage and Death Indexes for North Wales > including Newtown, Montgomeryshire: > > http://www.northwalesbmd.org.uk/bmd_welcome.html > > 1.--Original Message----- > Behalf Of Suttonian1@aol.com > Sent: 23 October 2007 20:23 > Subject: [POWYS] Registrar in Newtown > > Is the Newtown Registration Office online? > > thanks > > Georgina Goodby Fisher > formerly from Sutton Coldfield > now in Orange, Calif 6 miles east of Disneyland > One Name Study of Goodby >
On the 2d. instant at Bodiendeb, Carnarvonshire, in his 70th year, Abraham MILLS, Esq. F.R.S, late one of the officers of His Majesty's Ordinance Department, Dublin. On Sunday se'nnight, at Monmouth, after a short illness, Mr. Burgess BRYAN, solicitor, -a respectable worthy man. Lately, at Dingestow, at a very advanced age, Elizabeth, relict of Mr. Wm. DAVIS, formerly of Dingestow Court Farm, near Monmouth. On Monday, aged 74, Mr. John ALLEN, for many years a respectable bookseller in Hereford. On the 5th inst. aged65, Mr. S. MUTLOW, thirty-five years an apothecary to the Gloucester Infirmary. On Sunday last, after a lingering illness, in the 68th year of his age, the Rev. John DARWALL, M.A. one of the masters of King Edward's Grammar School in Birmingham and nearly forty years the faithful and respected Minister of St. John's Chapel, Deritend. Lyn Nunn Brisbane Australia
In a message dated 10/23/2007 2:43:24 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, dereksavage@btinternet.com writes: The following site gives Birth, Marriage and Death Indexes for North Wales including Newtown, Montgomeryshire: http://www.northwalesbmd.org.uk/bmd_welcome.html Thanks Derek. My problem is finding out which Elizabeth Humphreys is mine. There are quite a few of them between 1861-1871. I do have information that will determine which one, but of course, we cannot see the actual records. Georgina ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
Georgina The following site gives Birth, Marriage and Death Indexes for North Wales including Newtown, Montgomeryshire: http://www.northwalesbmd.org.uk/bmd_welcome.html Regards Derek Savage Researching the Mantle family of Newchapel, Montgomeryshire and Tylwch, Radnorshire -----Original Message----- From: powys-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powys-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Suttonian1@aol.com Sent: 23 October 2007 20:23 To: POWYS@rootsweb.com Subject: [POWYS] Registrar in Newtown Hi Is the Newtown Registration Office online? thanks Georgina Goodby Fisher formerly from Sutton Coldfield now in Orange, Calif 6 miles east of Disneyland One Name Study of Goodby Goons Member No. 4148
hi william died at maesbury marsh in 1920 his wife was jane griffiths born 1876 in worthern denise William Williams <wi11iam4.t.1913@tesco.net> wrote: Denise, Do you have a place for William's death ? Oswestry is very close to the border with Montgomeryshire, so he could well have been in Shrophire at the time of death. I know the area fairly well; most of my own research is centred around that area ! William ----- Original Message ----- From: "DENISE DOWNES" To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 11:58 AM Subject: [POWYS] help please > Hi List > > Please can you help me recently I received the death certificates of > two brothers > John and William Jones, several of you kindly helped me with clarifying > what they actually died from,,I had assumed that William had died as I ( > had / have ) never found him after 1881 > > I am asking now if anyone could look for them please, on the 1891 and > 1901 census > > John Jones was born 1866 church stoke montgomeryshire > William Jones was born 1872 church stoke montgomeryshire. > > children of William and Catherine Jones, born church stoke, William was a > miller and moved around quiet a lot, however he was back in church stoke > in 1891 > with all children except William and john. chances are they both followed > their fathers trade as millers john died in much wenlock in 1945 whilst > William died in 1920 near oswestry > > many thanks Denise > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
DIED On Monday last, at Swansea, aged 63, after a long and painful illness, borne with pious resignation, Elizabeth HOSKIN, eldest daughter of the late Mr. John THOMAS, of Norton, in this county. On Saturday last, at his seat in Carmarthenshire, highly and deservedly esteemed, aged 82, Wm. LEWES Esq. of Llysnewydd, one of his Majesty's Justices of the Peace for the counties of Carmarthen and Cardigan and Deputy Lieutenant for the County of Carmarthen. On Monday se'nnight, after a long and protracted illness, aged 69, the Rev. John HANCOCK, for many years Vicar of Trelech-ar-Bettws, Carmarthenshire. His loss will be deeply felt by his family and a numerous circle of friends and acquaintances. On Tuesday se'nnight, after a lingering illness, occasioned by a cancer in the lip, the cure of which baffled the faculty both in England and Wales, Mr. Benjamin NICHOLAS, of the Nag's-Head Inn, Newcastle-Emlyn. At Hakin, Milford, Mr. Abraham WILLIAMS, shopkeeper, aged 60; and Capt. ANDERSON, of the brig Venus, of Milford, aged 45. At Aberystwith, on the 7th inst. aged 51, Mr. Evan EVANS, master of the sloop Ann, of that port. On the 8th inst. aged 66, Mrs. Mary PUGH, of Guilsfield, Montgomeryshire. Lyn Nunn Brisbane Australia
Denise, Do you have a place for William's death ? Oswestry is very close to the border with Montgomeryshire, so he could well have been in Shrophire at the time of death. I know the area fairly well; most of my own research is centred around that area ! William ----- Original Message ----- From: "DENISE DOWNES" <denise.downes1@btinternet.com> To: <midmarch-l@rootsweb.com> Cc: <powys-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 11:58 AM Subject: [POWYS] help please > Hi List > > Please can you help me recently I received the death certificates of > two brothers > John and William Jones, several of you kindly helped me with clarifying > what they actually died from,,I had assumed that William had died as I ( > had / have ) never found him after 1881 > > I am asking now if anyone could look for them please, on the 1891 and > 1901 census > > John Jones was born 1866 church stoke montgomeryshire > William Jones was born 1872 church stoke montgomeryshire. > > children of William and Catherine Jones, born church stoke, William was a > miller and moved around quiet a lot, however he was back in church stoke > in 1891 > with all children except William and john. chances are they both followed > their fathers trade as millers john died in much wenlock in 1945 whilst > William died in 1920 near oswestry > > many thanks Denise > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message
In a message dated 10/23/2007 12:58:01 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, FrostSES@aol.com writes: The Register Office, Council Offices, The Park, Newtown, SY16 2NZ. Tel: 01686 627862. E-mail: _newtreg@powys.gov.uk_ (mailto:newtreg@powys.gov.uk) This is what I have for them, hope it helps. Best wishes Shirley Thank you Shirley. I will send them an email right away. Thanks Georgina in Orange, CA. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
In a message dated 23/10/2007 20:23:48 GMT Standard Time, Suttonian1@aol.com writes: Is the Newtown Registration Office online? The Register Office, Council Offices, The Park, Newtown, SY16 2NZ. Tel: 01686 627862. E-mail: _newtreg@powys.gov.uk_ (mailto:newtreg@powys.gov.uk) This is what I have for them, hope it helps. Best wishes Shirley
Hi Is the Newtown Registration Office online? thanks Georgina Goodby Fisher formerly from Sutton Coldfield now in Orange, Calif 6 miles east of Disneyland One Name Study of Goodby Goons Member No. 4148 ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
Hi List Please can you help me recently I received the death certificates of two brothers John and William Jones, several of you kindly helped me with clarifying what they actually died from,,I had assumed that William had died as I ( had / have ) never found him after 1881 I am asking now if anyone could look for them please, on the 1891 and 1901 census John Jones was born 1866 church stoke montgomeryshire William Jones was born 1872 church stoke montgomeryshire. children of William and Catherine Jones, born church stoke, William was a miller and moved around quiet a lot, however he was back in church stoke in 1891 with all children except William and john. chances are they both followed their fathers trade as millers john died in much wenlock in 1945 whilst William died in 1920 near oswestry many thanks Denise
Hi Hilary I thought I had posted it to Powys but I must not have so thanks for picking it up. Thankyou also for sending me the article. That book looks fascinating for anyone with connections there. Regards Lyn -----Original Message----- From: powys-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powys-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Hilary or Owen Williams Sent: Tuesday, 23 October 2007 6:38 AM To: powys@rootsweb.com Subject: [POWYS] The Cambrian 27 Aug 1825 Trial of John EVANS for murderofMargaret WILLIAMS Hi Lyn and All, I hope you don't mind, Lyn, my posting this article which you posted on Rootsweb GLAM L on Saturday, as it refers to a very famous murder in the Epynt Mountain community, BRE. Newchurch, is probably better known by its other name of Tirabad (abbot's land - referring to its historic connection with the monks of Strata Florida.) snip
Hi Lyn and All, I hope you don’t mind, Lyn, my posting this article which you posted on Rootsweb GLAM L on Saturday, as it refers to a very famous murder in the Epynt Mountain community, BRE. Newchurch, is probably better known by its other name of Tirabad (abbot’s land – referring to its historic connection with the monks of Strata Florida.) Details of the story are available in the book “Epynt without people”, chap 9. This book is long out of print, so if anyone in interested in the story & wants a copy of the chapter (4 pages) e-mail me directly and I will send the pages as attachment. Lyn, I’ll send it to you anyway, as a thank you for your hard work!! ” The Cambrian 27 Aug 1825 Trial of John EVANS for murder ofMargaret WILLIAMS CONFESSION AND EXECUTION of JOHN EVANS On Wednesday last, this wretched man suffered the awful sentence of the law, precisely at one o'clock, in the presence of an immense concourse of spectators. He died without a struggle, and apparently quite penitent. From the time sentence was passed until the day of his execution the Prisoner continually declared that Daniel ROWLANDS was concerned with him in the murder, which he at the same time said was effected by means of poison; but, previous to the administration of the Holy Sacrament to him in the morning, he fully confessed the falsity of such statement, and that he alone was the sole perpetrator of the crime; in consequence of which the following memorandum was made by the Rev. Mr. JONES, the Chaplain, in the presence of the Under Sheriff: Brecon County Prison Monday, the 22nd day of August, 1825. I, the undersigned, consider it to be due to the character of Daniel ROWLANDS to state, that the wretched Criminal, John EVANS, who this day suffered for the Murder of Margaret WILLIAMS, previous to his death, acknowledged the justice of his sentence, and that he alone perpetrated this horrid Murder. He further stated, that Daniel ROWLANDS was not implicated in the dreadful crime, and that the evidence given by the said Daniel ROWLANDS was perfectly correct. JOHN JONES, Chaplain of the Gaol, Witness JOHN JONES, Deputy Sheriff. Transciber's note - Unfortunately I do not have a copy of the full page which also has very detail testimonies from the trial of John EVANS previous to the above notice. Below are some brief notes should anyone wish to confirm identities, followed by the verdict and sentence.. Margaret WILLIAMS sister said she knew a man she heard visiting her sister during the night as John of Troedrhyw-Ithon. Her sister already had a little boy and was aged about 41 years. They were residing at their father's house. John EVANS (I am figuring there are two in this case as he knew the prisoner well) stated he lived in the parish of Newchurch, near the abode of David WILLIAMS (the deceased's father). His father owned a farm at a distance of about a quarter of a mile or less from David WILLIAM's house, at the Frydia. The lands of his father's farm adjoin those of the Frydia. David WILLIAMS, father of the deceased, stated that he lived at the Frydia, in the parish of Newchurch; his daughter Margaret had made his house her home. He last saw her on the night of Sunday the 7th inst. as she was going to bed. He called her Peggy. His other daughter Elizabeth had already been called as witness. He did not see Margaret alive again and her body was brought to his house on Friday last. Thomas WILLIAMS , brother of the deceased stated that he was well acquainted with the Prisoner. He went in the company of Rees DAVIES to search for his sister Margaret on Monday the 8th inst. He referred to John EVANS (the witness) as Jack of Keven-Iole. Rees DAVIES, Thomas DAVIES, the Constable, Wm. PRICE and a great many others searched for his sister with him. The prisoner lived at Troedrhyw-Ithon in the parish of Llangammarch which is about two miles from the house of his father, David WILLIAMS. Rees DAVIES stated that the body was found Friday the 12th inst between twelve and one o'clock on Llwyn-y-vynwent farm in the parish of Newchurch. Isaac DAVIES was sworn. Testimony not complete on my copy. Daniel ROWLANDS gave testimony but it is not complete on my copy. Elinor ROWLANDS was sworn. She was the wife of Daniel ROWLANDS and sister of John EVANS the prisoner. William PRICE was next called. William POWELL was called. Mr Morgan MORGAN was called to examine the body. He stated he was a surgeon residing in Llandovery. He had been asked to attend by the Magistrate, Col. GWYNNE. He stated that the deceased was found to be about three months pregnant. Benjamin WILLIAMS, Esq. was called. He was one of the Coroners of the county. He had practised as a Surgeon for many years in Brecon but had relinquished such practice about two years ago. The evidence having been gone through, the Chief Justice summed it up with the greatest accuracy, explaining as he went on the nature and drift of different parts of it, and the Jury after a few minutes deliberation, returned a verdict of Guilty. Sentence of Death was then passed upon the prisoner, to be executed on Monday, the 22d instant. The unhappy criminal, who appeared to be under thirty years of age, and is said to be possessed of considerable property, heard his dreadful doom with less apparent emotion that many of the auditors. The miserable victim to the lawless passion of the prisoner, besides being again pregnant, had a child living by the same barbarous father; and it has been stated, that he was paying his addresses to another female, who had discouraged his suit, in consequence of his guilty connection. After sentence had been passed, the Counsel for the prisoner moved for a respite thereof, on the ground of a defect in the indictment, inasmuch as it did not allege that the dislocation of the neck and head therein mentioned was mortal; but after an argument of some length the motion was overturned. The trial commenced at eight o'clock in the morning, and occupied about eight hours. Mr. SOCKETT and Mr. WHITCOMBE, were with the Attorney General, on behalf of the prosecution, and Mr. CROSS and Mr. MAULE were Counsel for the prisoner.” All the best to all, Hilary No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.5/1084 - Release Date: 21/10/2007 15:09