Thank you Dennis Much appreciated. Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: DCLEATOND@aol.com To: powys@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 8:39 AM Subject: Re: [POWYS] Joy Says Thanks Thanks Joy, I will try and get you some Post Card Photo's of the Elan Valley Dams and School area and other details . It was closed some years ago, but my wife Audrey knows people who went to the school. It is now a Community Centre it seems, over the small river Elan bridge, on the hillside opposite the main road to the Dams from Rhayader, about 4 miles away on the river Wye. More later, Dennis =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.8/1236 - Release Date: 21/01/2008 8:23 PM

Yes that is the right Charles and he was born in Gt Driffield. This has been checked. I have found many items of information incorrect in my research so not really surprised at this mistake. Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: rufhay@aol.com To: powys@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 7:42 PM Subject: Re: [POWYS] Joy Says Thanks Joy Would your Charles Pyke have been a 19 year old soldier in 1881 in Suffolk?? The 1881 census shows only one Yorkshire born Charles Pyke of about the right age, but he was born in Hull.? I am very surprised that the 1901 census had his age so wrong!!? but these things do happen. Ruth -----Original Message----- From: joy cole <joy_bill@optusnet.com.au> To: powys@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 9:36 Subject: [POWYS] Joy Says Thanks I must say thank you to all those people who have answered my queries in just one day of being a member. You people are really amazing. Your help is very much appreciated from one so far away. Thank you Joy =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL's new homepage has launched. Take a tour at http://info.aol.co.uk/homepage/ now. =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.8/1236 - Release Date: 21/01/2008 8:23 PM

Baptism, Burial and Marriage records of three more Montgomeryshire parishes [Berriew, Newtown, Llanllwchaiarn] were added to the familyhistoryonline site just before Christmas. This takes the number of parishes online to 29. You will find the names of the parishes and years covered at: http://www.familyhistoryonline.net/database/MontgomeryGSprs.shtml These records are produced as part of the project of the Montgomeryshire Genealogical Society to transcribe and publish the county's parish records. Details of the society and a list of publications can be seen at http://home.freeuk.net/montgensoc/ Happy hunting! Bryn Ellis

Hello, After many years researching my family history, I am now looking at my wife's ancestors. I am interested in a KINSEY family who lived in Llanbister, and Beguildy (later Stowe and Weston, Shropshire), during the 19th century. They were; John (born c.1813, Llanbister) and Ann (c.1815, Nantmel) KINSEY, Their children were; John c.1835, Llanbister Mary c.1837, Llanbister Thomas c.1840, Llanbister William c.1842, Beguildy Ann c.1848, Beguildy Hannah c.1852, Beguildy Stephen c.1855, Beguildy James J c.1858, Beguildy I would like to find out what church they might have attended (for Baptism/marriage/burial records, etc), and I would like to know how they were related to the other KINSEYs in the Llanbister area at that time. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Best regards, Mark Ashwell ________________________________________________________________________ AOL's new homepage has launched. Take a tour at http://info.aol.co.uk/homepage/ now.

I must say thank you to all those people who have answered my queries in just one day of being a member. You people are really amazing. Your help is very much appreciated from one so far away. Thank you Joy

Dennis is the old school still in existence? Are there any photos? Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: DCLEATOND@aol.com To: powys@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [POWYS] New Member Elan Village Hi Joy, My wife's Price family lived at the Gro Farm in the Elan Valley before the Dams were built, and had to leave then to Rhayader. There is much written about that era, and a Visitor Centre is now by the old school and first Dam area, with lots of books and other things to buy and see re the history there. Our local Powys FHS man and Cronicl Editor Lloyd Lewis in Rhayader can also help you in this I think, as he gave us a very good talk on the Elan Valley recently. The school records are lost I think, but Powys Archives here in Llandrindod Wells will have some records, and some of these are online for Schools,etc. Go to Internet:http://archives.powys.gov.uk and/or Email _archives@powys.gov.uk_ (mailto:archives@powys.gov.uk) for more info. A good small book to read is "The Elan Valley Railway" by Kidner ?? , with lots of history and many photo's of the early days there, and the Dams, School, and Village buildings, but many early ones were just wooden huts!!! I will send you the book details asap, as my copy is not to hand today. A GOLDBY family of engineers I know also went to NZ like yours and Lloyd Lewis has their history too. Best regards, Dennis Cleaton, RAD, Powys _dcleatond@aol.com_ (mailto:dcleatond@aol.com) =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.2/1224 - Release Date: 14/01/2008 5:39 PM

Vera thank you very much. I am amazed at the help I have received after only 1 day. Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: VERA BROWN To: powys@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [POWYS] New Member Elan Village Hello Joy I am forwarding your e-mail to our editor, Lloyd Lewis as he is very knowledgeable about the Elan Valley both before and after it was flooded. Best wishes Vera joy cole <joy_bill@optusnet.com.au> wrote: Hi I am writing my family history and this involves Elan Village, as my grandfather Charles Huntley PYKE worked on the dams before moving to New Zealand in 1911. My father and his sister were born at 89 Elan Village. How many houses were there in total? The information that I am seeking is about the Old Village School. How big was it and how many rooms? Are there any record of the children who attended? Are there any old photos of the school and the houses that were built for the workers? Is there any chance of getting photos of the Village as it is now. I believe that properties and the new school were all built in stone. I who like to show "Before" and "After" photos if I can fine them. Thank you Joy Cole (Nee PYKE) Australia =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.2/1224 - Release Date: 14/01/2008 5:39 PM

Dennis I must thank you for all the information that you have given me. I now have some places to start looking and will look for the book you mentioned. Thanks again joy ----- Original Message ----- From: DCLEATOND@aol.com To: powys@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [POWYS] New Member Elan Village Hi again Joy, The "Elan Valley Railway" book is by JW Judge, from _www.oakwoodpress.co.uk_ (http://www.oakwoodpress.co.uk) at £12.99 Yrs, Dennis =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.2/1224 - Release Date: 14/01/2008 5:39 PM

Hi Sue Yes please. Merv merv.janine@ntlworld.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suzanne Scrivens" <suscrivens@hotmail.com> To: <powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [POWYS] POWYS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 11 > > > > >> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> >> > > > Message: 1> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 11:54:02 -0000> From: "Merv ntl" >> > > <merv.janine@ntlworld.com>> Subject: [POWYS] Searching Jebidiah >> > > Davies connections> To: "powys mailing" <POWYS@rootsweb.com>> >> > > Message-ID: <000601c859c8$d2e42f00$0200a8c0@your0fq6a8rbav>> >> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > Hello all> > >> > > Searching for anyone who maybe researching same family or area or may >> > > have any info relating to my great-great grandfather JEBIDIAH DAVIES >> > > born circa 1799 Llangammarch, Brecon. Trade Butcher.> > Married Dinah >> > > Thomas Llanafan Fawr 1835 at which Jeb's father given as Rees (Rhys). >> > > Resided Llanganten 1851 now listed as farmer with daughters Ann and >> > > Dinah. Jeb died 1871.> > Their son JOHN DAVIES left the land to work >> > > coal in Aberdare, 1871 census shows him there with wife Jennet >> > > (maiden name also Davies) and children Dianah, DAVID JOHN, Margaret, >> > > Jebediah and Mary.> > Heres hoping> > Mervy! > n Davies> > ------------------------------>> > > > > ------------------------------> Hi Mervyn, > > If my memory serves me well, I am related to Jedidiah Davies. > I am decended from his daughter, Dinah. > I was born and breed in Aberdare myself. > Let me know if you interested in more info. > > Su >> > _________________________________________________________________ > Get Hotmail on your mobile, text MSN to 63463! > http://mobile.uk.msn.com/pc/mail.aspx > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Joy, I will try and get you some Post Card Photo's of the Elan Valley Dams and School area and other details . It was closed some years ago, but my wife Audrey knows people who went to the school. It is now a Community Centre it seems, over the small river Elan bridge, on the hillside opposite the main road to the Dams from Rhayader, about 4 miles away on the river Wye. More later, Dennis

> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 11:54:02 -0000> From: "Merv ntl" <merv.janine@ntlworld.com>> Subject: [POWYS] Searching Jebidiah Davies connections> To: "powys mailing" <POWYS@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <000601c859c8$d2e42f00$0200a8c0@your0fq6a8rbav>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > Hello all> > Searching for anyone who maybe researching same family or area or may have any info relating to my great-great grandfather JEBIDIAH DAVIES born circa 1799 Llangammarch, Brecon. Trade Butcher.> > Married Dinah Thomas Llanafan Fawr 1835 at which Jeb's father given as Rees (Rhys). Resided Llanganten 1851 now listed as farmer with daughters Ann and Dinah. Jeb died 1871.> > Their son JOHN DAVIES left the land to work coal in Aberdare, 1871 census shows him there with wife Jennet (maiden name also Davies) and children Dianah, DAVID JOHN, Margaret, Jebediah and Mary.> > Heres hoping> > Mervyn Davies> > ------------------------------>> > > > ------------------------------> Hi Mervyn, If my memory serves me well, I am related to Jedidiah Davies. I am decended from his daughter, Dinah. I was born and breed in Aberdare myself. Let me know if you interested in more info. Su > _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile, text MSN to 63463! http://mobile.uk.msn.com/pc/mail.aspx

Arlene Metzler <peachie13329@yahoo.com> wrote: ... I have found a post card from a cousin, she was Kitty Davies Ellis. Her address was Avondale Green Lane Corwen, Meriomethshire, Wales. I also have a 1938 calendar. On the front of it is a picture of a railroad station with Penmaenmawr, Promenade written on the right hand corner. On the back of it is hand written Mr and Mrs D. W. Humphrey's, Bodnant Penmaeamaure. I will take any help I can get. Arlene Metzler ================ Dear Arlene, As your interests seem to be focused on Corwen in the county of Merionethshire and Penamaenmawr in the county of Caernarfonshire, I think you would get more help by subscribing to the Clwyd and the WLS-Gwynedd mailing list. Both these lists cover Merionethshire, and the WLS-Gwynedd List also covers Caernarfonshire. Send your subscribe requests to: Clwyd-L-request@rootsweb.com and WLS-Gwynedd-L-request@rootsweb.com Replace the -L- with -D- if you want to receive your messages in digest format. Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Godre'r Graig, near Swansea, Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2005.plus.com John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/ Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/ GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ Joint Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) RootsWeb mailing lists

Hi I am writing my family history and this involves Elan Village, as my grandfather Charles Huntley PYKE worked on the dams before moving to New Zealand in 1911. My father and his sister were born at 89 Elan Village. How many houses were there in total? The information that I am seeking is about the Old Village School. How big was it and how many rooms? Are there any record of the children who attended? Are there any old photos of the school and the houses that were built for the workers? Is there any chance of getting photos of the Village as it is now. I believe that properties and the new school were all built in stone. I who like to show "Before" and "After" photos if I can fine them. Thank you Joy Cole (Nee PYKE) Australia

Hi, resubbing to this list after several years away. My great grandfather was Evan EVANS b c1844 in Newtown, Montgomeryshire who moved to Birmingham prior to 1871 when he is recorded on the census there. On censuses he variously gave his birth place as Newtown or Abethgethy, Montgomeryshire. He was a miller as was his father, another Evan EVANS. I have now found his brother David EVANS b c1848 Newtown Montgomeryshire, a baker. He also moved to Birmingham. He gives his birthplace as Newtown, however on one census he says Abermele. I really need to know the place of birth in order to get the birth certificate for Evan EVANS, there are quite a lot to choose from! Enquiries on this list in the past have drawn a blank as to where Abergethy was situated, however I'm asking again now as I have the additional clue of Abermele. Hoping someone somewhere might have half a clue. This is my biggest brick wall. Thank you Jas in Devon

Joy Cole <joy_bill@optusnet.com.au> wrote: Dennis is the old school still in existence? Are there any photos? =================== Dear Joy If you perform a Google search using the key words 'Elan Village School' you'll find links to a profusely illustrated web feature on the 'Elan Valley Dams' at http://history.powys.org.uk/history/rhayader/elanmenu.html The feature is part of the excellent Powys Digital History Project. On the opening page, follow the link to 'The Elan Village' where you'll find seven webpages on the history of the village. The many photos include one of the temporary wooden school and its staff in 1898 (on page 5). I quote: ------------- The original village school in the valley of Nantgwyllt was to be among many other buildings abandoned and demolished with the coming of the waterworks to the Elan Valley. This was to be temporarily replaced by a wooden schoolhouse provided in 1895 by Birmingham Corporation within the navvies village, then later by a stone-built school below Caban Coch dam at the end of the project. The school was for children up to the age of 11, after which they were legally able to work. ------------- I strongly recommend that your explore the entire 'Elan Valley Dams' feature, as the village school is mentioned on other pages, too. Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Godre'r Graig, near Swansea, Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2005.plus.com John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/ Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/ GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ Joint Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) RootsWeb mailing lists

Hello Joy I am forwarding your e-mail to our editor, Lloyd Lewis as he is very knowledgeable about the Elan Valley both before and after it was flooded. Best wishes Vera joy cole <joy_bill@optusnet.com.au> wrote: Hi I am writing my family history and this involves Elan Village, as my grandfather Charles Huntley PYKE worked on the dams before moving to New Zealand in 1911. My father and his sister were born at 89 Elan Village. How many houses were there in total? The information that I am seeking is about the Old Village School. How big was it and how many rooms? Are there any record of the children who attended? Are there any old photos of the school and the houses that were built for the workers? Is there any chance of getting photos of the Village as it is now. I believe that properties and the new school were all built in stone. I who like to show "Before" and "After" photos if I can fine them. Thank you Joy Cole (Nee PYKE) Australia =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am also trying to to research Davis/Davies family. Mine starts in Wales with Thomas Davis born 1780-1871according to Herkimer County, NY 1855 census. Son, David D. 42 born Wales 1827-1883. Wife of David D. Mary (Roberts) Davis 28 born Wales 1827-1885. Thomas Davis son of David D. and first wife Ann Jones, age 14 born in Wales. Their first child Margaret was born in Steuben, NY 1826. They are all buried in Salisbury Center, NY cemetery. I have found a post card from a cousin, she was Kitty Davies Ellis. Her address was Avondale Green Lane Corwen, Meriomethshire, Wales. I also have a 1938 calendar. On the front of it is a picture of a railroad station with Penmaenmawr, Promenade written on the right hand corner. On the back of it is hand written Mr and Mrs D. W. Humphrey's, Bodnant Penmaeamaure. I will take any help I can get. Arlene Metzler Alison Skipper <alison@skippers.org.uk> wrote: Hello Merv, Thanks for the information. I know the problems researching Davies in the area first hand, as my 5x great-grandparents, John Daviesand Elizabeth (nee DAVIES) married in Llangammarch Church in 1778 and I am struggling to go further back than this. Can you please contact me off List, as there is a lady in America who may be researching the same family and if you give me your e-mail address, I will put you in touch? Looking forward to hearing from you. Alison =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message LIFE MAY NOT BE A PARTY WE HOPED FOR, BUT WHILE WE ARE HERE WE MIGHT AS WELL DANCE!

Thanks John and Joy, There is lots on the Elan Valley and I fund it very difficult to find it all when needed!! It needs an EV INDEX for us to work it well John, and some very good large photo's were seen at the Rhayader CARAD Exibition for the New Rhayader Museum nearly two years ago, so I will get their website for you asap. Does Lloyd Lewis or anyone know anything about those good CARAD EV School photos now please?? The EV Railway book is also very good on photos too, from _www.oakwoodpress.co.uk_ (http://www.oakwoodpress.co.uk) Best regards, Dennis in RAD,Powys. _dcleatond@aol.com_ (mailto:dcleatond@aol.com)

Joy Would your Charles Pyke have been a 19 year old soldier in 1881 in Suffolk?? The 1881 census shows only one Yorkshire born Charles Pyke of about the right age, but he was born in Hull.? I am very surprised that the 1901 census had his age so wrong!!? but these things do happen. Ruth -----Original Message----- From: joy cole <joy_bill@optusnet.com.au> To: powys@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 9:36 Subject: [POWYS] Joy Says Thanks I must say thank you to all those people who have answered my queries in just one day of being a member. You people are really amazing. Your help is very much appreciated from one so far away. Thank you Joy =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL's new homepage has launched. Take a tour at http://info.aol.co.uk/homepage/ now.

Hi again Joy, The "Elan Valley Railway" book is by JW Judge, from _www.oakwoodpress.co.uk_ (http://www.oakwoodpress.co.uk) at £12.99 Yrs, Dennis