Would you please send me the site for UK National Archives. Thanks Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tomi Larson" <tomil23@hotmail.com> To: <powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 2:00 PM Subject: [POWYS] UK National Archives Hello List, I recently found the UK National Archives collection of nonconformist births, marriages and death records from 1567 online. The bubble was burst when I realized it would cost me $5 a hit to look at the records. (Searching is free, but to see the details is 5 credits, which translates to $5 for me in NY.) Is there anyplace to view these records free? I understand the Family History Centre in London is closing- not sure if the records were there? Also, can someone explain what RG 4, RG 5, or BT 158-160 refer to? Are these just Register references? Thank you for any explanation! Tomi _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.20/1262 - Release Date: 2/6/08 9:13 AM

Hello, I am wondering if anyone can help me in my quest to find the parents of Sarah Davies ( married John Jarman abt 1836 ) . I have traced her as far as her birth (abt 1806 ) in Llandinam. I have hit a brick wall and the reason I want to go further is to either verify or put to rest family "folk lore" that we are related to David Davies also from Llandinam and one of the Welsh Heros.I am related to her thro' her daughter Charlotte Jarman who was my Gt Grandmother.My Grandmother was Jennie Edwards. Hoping some-one out there can help me. Jenny

Hello, I want to thank everyone who responded to my question!!!! I now have so much more information. All so very exciting. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Lillian Francis-Thurston Researching: Tustian, Hargest, Probert, Slade, Henly, Loder, Randall, Wicks, Bolter, Dalby, Sims, Rawlings, Francis, Mitchell, Glidden, Sexton, Giles, Pugh, Stockman, --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

Am new to list. I am looking for descendants of James Price, born in Brecon area about 1859. He is the son of John Price & his 1st wife Margaret Price nee James. John's eldest son William came to Australia in 1861. It is said that James was left in Wales with his G/Parents when his father migrated to Australia with his 2nd wife Ann Davies. Any info on this family would be most appreciated. I am a direct descendant of John's brother, David Price. Regards Stan Price

Thanks to Ann & Dennis - I'll email Bill again, using his correct name! Regards, Ellie

Dear Sue, Not sure whether you've found somewhere yet. I had a glance through the FIEC website and came up with one in Hay-on-Wye - is that further than you were looking for? Anyhow, this is called Bethesda Evangelical Church, is located at: Oxford Road Hay-on-Wye HR3 5AJ and the services are at 11.00 am and 6.00 pm. Apparently it used to be Wesleyan, but I don't think it is anymore. Hope this helps! Camilla On 31/01/2008, Sue Welham <sue.cartref@virgin.net> wrote: > > Dear John, > > > > John wrote > > > > Have you tried the Coflein database at http://www.coflein.gov.uk/ > > This is sponsored by the Royal Commission on the Ancient and Historical > > Monuments of Wales. > > Thanks John. I have tried te website but although I know some of them are > there I still need to know whether they have services and what times. I > would also like to find out if any of them are charismatic chapels so that > I > may avoid them. > > Thanks for your help, > > Sue in Suffolk > > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello, I am looking for any information about Esther Ann Davies m. William Lewis 19 Jul 1827 Glascwm, RAD. I have no birth information on her. William was probably born abt 1806 BRE. They had children Thomas C., Elizabeth, Esther, William, Mary and Dorthea. Thank you for any assistance! Tomi Oswego, NY _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008

Yes, this is correct for _billbarker5@earthlink.net_ (mailto:billbarker5@earthlink.net) His postal address is now in North Carolina :- 2903 Northampton Drive Greensboro, NC 27408 USA I had it from him on 28/1/2008. Dennis Cleaton, RAD, Powys, Wales, UK. LD1 6AP Powys FHS and MGY Member.

Are you sure you got his email address right. It is billbarker5@earthlink.net As you will see, his name is Barker, not Baxter. I know of people who have contacted him recently, and his email still stands. Yours. Ann. --------------------------------- Sent from Yahoo! &#45; a smarter inbox.

Hi Listers, Looking back in the archive for this list I found a couple of mentions of a CD containing a Montgomeryshire marriage index compiled by Bill Baxter. Unfortunately the email address given for Bill doesn't seem to be active any more. Does anyone know how I can contact Bill or get a copy of the CD please? Regards, Ellie Thomas

Hello Lillian, As per John's suggestions: Richard Tustian married Jane Hargest on 11th December 1834 at Brecon, St. Mary. Banns were posted. This is the only Tustian marriage in this database (1813-1837). There are 5 other Hargest entries (all male), but none for the same church. Rina Ref: ancestry.com http://www.a-glamorgan-family.com/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Ball" <john@jlb2005.plus.com> To: <powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 9:13 AM Subject: [POWYS] TUSTIAN,Brecon St Mary (formerly: List of Names Searching & Question) > Lillian Thurston <lillianthurston@yahoo.com> wrote: > ... Richard Tustian ... would have been born about 1815. He married a Jane > (Hargest) and the 1851 census shows Richard as a 36 year old tailor and > Jane > as a 34 year old dressmaker at 1 Mount Street, St. Mary's, Brecknock, > Wales. > Living with 5 of their children. > Can someone tell me how I'm to find his birth information and marriage > information? > ===================== > > Dear Lillian, > > The 1851 census shows the eldest child still living at home with Richard > and > Jane was 16 years old (born circa 1834/35) so Richard's marriage to Jane > was > probably around the same time or earlier. Thus both his birth and his > marriage took place before the commencement of civil registration in 1837. > > You will need to rely on church records for the marriage and church or > chapel records for his baptism (in the absence of birth records). > > The census gives both Richard and Jane's place of birth as Brecon St > Mary's, > so St Mary's Church records need to be consulted.

SORRY This should be the marriage of GEORGE MORRIS and ANN JONES about 1830 Opppps Denise DENISE DOWNES <denise.downes1@btinternet.com> wrote: Hi is there a site where you can search for marriages in montgomeryshire pre 1837 please I am looking for the marriage of William Morris b 1805 snead. & Ann Jones.b 1804 c/stoke Churchstoke / Lydham area about 1830 Thanks Denise =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi is there a site where you can search for marriages in montgomeryshire pre 1837 please I am looking for the marriage of William Morris b 1805 snead. & Ann Jones.b 1804 c/stoke Churchstoke / Lydham area about 1830 Thanks Denise

Hi Neil, The NLW is the National Library of Wales at Aberystwyth and the TNA is the National Archives in London. Happy hunting Angie _________________________________________________________________ Who's friends with who and co-starred in what? http://www.searchgamesbox.com/celebrityseparation.shtml

Message: 6 Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2008 10:46:50 -0500 From: rufhay@aol.com Subject: Re: [POWYS] Land ownership near Llanidloes To: powys@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8CA33C9F5B807E6-8B8-306F@WEBMAIL-MA02.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Neil ? One of the best means of tracking down land owners very specifically is to check the list of Tithe apportionments - a reference document compiled at the time the tithe map was drawn up.? I believe that the one for Trefeglwys dates from 1848 & in it you should be able to find the names of owners & occupiers of all the properties in the parish. You?will probably?need to go to the NLW or TNA or the Powys CAO to find Tithe apportionments, and you may need to consult a reference book by Kain & Oliver (The Tithe Maps of England & Wales) which should lead you to the right document. Hope this helps. Ruth Hi Ruth, Thanks for the suggestion. By a stroke of luck I have found that from 1588 until 1920 the land around Cwm Biga was owned by University College Oxford and was occupied by a number of tenant farmers. Given the proximity to two much bigger farms , I wonder whether one of them was subletting a portion of their land. I certainly will be looking into what the kain & Oliver book has to tell me . Fortunately my local university library has a copy. Just one thing. What do the initials NLW and TNA signify? Thanks Neil

Lillian Thurston <lillianthurston@yahoo.com> wrote: ... Richard Tustian ... would have been born about 1815. He married a Jane (Hargest) and the 1851 census shows Richard as a 36 year old tailor and Jane as a 34 year old dressmaker at 1 Mount Street, St. Mary's, Brecknock, Wales. Living with 5 of their children. Can someone tell me how I'm to find his birth information and marriage information? ===================== Dear Lillian, The 1851 census shows the eldest child still living at home with Richard and Jane was 16 years old (born circa 1834/35) so Richard's marriage to Jane was probably around the same time or earlier. Thus both his birth and his marriage took place before the commencement of civil registration in 1837. You will need to rely on church records for the marriage and church or chapel records for his baptism (in the absence of birth records). The census gives both Richard and Jane's place of birth as Brecon St Mary's, so St Mary's Church records need to be consulted. The relevant webpage on the GENUKI website states that extant records for St Mary's include: "... Baptisms 1684-1958, Marriages 1684-1976." The original parish registers are held at the National Library of Wales (Aberystwyth), with microfilmed copies at Powys Archives (Llandrindod Wells). It may be advisable also to consult the records of St John's Church (Brecon), as in the period in question St Mary's was a chapelry in St John's parish. It's quite possible that Richard was baptised in a nonconformist chapel rather than in the parish church. If so, you'll need to consult the chapel records at Powys Archives. The following notice is currently displayed on the Powys Archives website ( http://www.powys.gov.uk/ ): "Powys Archives is closed for its annual stocktake between Monday 4 February - Friday 15 February 2008." St Mary's Church, Brecon, is included in the 'Welsh Churches and Chapels Collection' on my website at www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/churches/search-fram.htm Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Godre'r Graig, near Swansea, Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2005.plus.com John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/ Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/ GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ Joint Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) RootsWeb mailing lists

The book is available on Google books Lyn -----Original Message----- From: powys-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powys-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of rufhay@aol.com Sent: Sunday, 3 February 2008 1:47 AM To: powys@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [POWYS] Land ownership near Llanidloes Hi Neil ? One of the best means of tracking down land owners very specifically is to check the list of Tithe apportionments - a reference document compiled at the time the tithe map was drawn up.? I believe that the one for Trefeglwys dates from 1848 & in it you should be able to find the names of owners & occupiers of all the properties in the parish. You?will probably?need to go to the NLW or TNA or the Powys CAO to find Tithe apportionments, and you may need to consult a reference book by Kain & Oliver (The Tithe Maps of England & Wales) which should lead you to the right document. Hope this helps. Ruth

Hi Neil NLW= National Library of Wales TNA= The National Archives (formerly PRO=Public Record Office) The Kain & Oliver book - as far as I remember - is useful as an index to tell you which microfilm you need to look at for the Tithe Apportionments.? I have used it at TNA. Best regards, Ruth -----Original Message----- From: Neil Thompson <neil.t@ntlworld.com> To: powys@rootsweb.com <powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 10:54 Subject: [POWYS] (no subject) Message: 6 Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2008 10:46:50 -0500 From: rufhay@aol.com Subject: Re: [POWYS] Land ownership near Llanidloes To: powys@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8CA33C9F5B807E6-8B8-306F@WEBMAIL-MA02.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Neil ? One of the best means of tracking down land owners very specifically is to check the list of Tithe apportionments - a reference document compiled at the time the tithe map was drawn up.? I believe that the one for Trefeglwys dates from 1848 & in it you should be able to find the names of owners & occupiers of all the properties in the parish. You?will probably?need to go to the NLW or TNA or the Powys CAO to find Tithe apportionments, and you may need to consult a reference book by Kain & Oliver (The Tithe Maps of England & Wales) which should lead you to the right document. Hope this helps. Ruth Hi Ruth, Thanks for the suggestion. By a stroke of luck I have found that from 1588 until 1920 the land around Cwm Biga was owned by University College Oxford and was occupied by a number of tenant farmers. Given the proximity to two much bigger farms , I wonder whether one of them was subletting a portion of their land. I certainly will be looking into what the kain & Oliver book has to tell me . Fortunately my local university library has a copy. Just one thing. What do the initials NLW and TNA signify? Thanks Neil =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL's new homepage has launched. Take a tour at http://info.aol.co.uk/homepage/ now.

Lillian - I've come across a "one name study on Hargest" online - based around HEF. Perhaps start there. Regards - Terry -----Original Message----- From: powys-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powys-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lillian Thurston Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 11:53 PM To: Wales Subject: Re: [POWYS] List of Names Searching & Question Hello, I am back into working on my family history which I have neglected for the past 6 years or so. To go one more step back in my Tustian line I'm looking for a Richard Tustian and who his parents were and siblings. He would have been born about 1815. He married a Jane (Hargest) and in the 1851 census it shows Richard as a 36 year old tailor and Jane as a 34 year old dressmaker at 1 Mount Street, St. Mary's, Brecknock, Wales. Living with 5 of their children. Can someone tell me how I'm to find his birth information and marriage information? Thank you so much, Lillian Francis-Thurston Researching: Tustian, Hargest, Probert, Slade, Henly, Loder, Randall, Wicks, Bolter, Dalby, Sims, Rawlings, Francis, Mitchell, Glidden, Sexton, Giles, Pugh, Stockman, --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, I just had something jump out at me. I'm wondering how I even noticed because I half asleep. Anyway look at this. Me born : 24, August 1954 My gg-grandfather : 24, August 1854 Lillian Francis-Thurston Researching: Tustian, Hargest, Probert, Slade, Henly, Loder, Randall, Wicks, Bolter, Dalby, Sims, Rawlings, Francis, Mitchell, Glidden, Sexton, Giles, Pugh, Stockman, --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.