Sue, Bryn Ellis posted the message below in January -- includes Newtown register details. Kind regards, Julie Preston juliefpreston@sbcglobal.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryn Ellis" <bryn@helygain.freeserve.co.uk> To: <powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 5:25 AM Subject: [POWYS] [MGY] More Monts parish records online > Baptism, Burial and Marriage records of three more Montgomeryshire > parishes > [Berriew, Newtown, Llanllwchaiarn] were added to the familyhistoryonline > site just before Christmas. This takes the number of parishes online to > 29. > > You will find the names of the parishes and years covered at: > http://www.familyhistoryonline.net/database/MontgomeryGSprs.shtml > > These records are produced as part of the project of the Montgomeryshire > Genealogical Society to transcribe and publish the county's parish > records. > Details of the society and a list of publications can be seen at > http://home.freeuk.net/montgensoc/ > > Happy hunting! > Bryn Ellis

Julie, Thank you for that link. The information is exactly what I have been looking for to help trace my Lewis relative. I need to find Newtown's records during our trip to Wales this June/July. Sue in Ohio -----Original Message----- From: powys-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powys-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Julie Preston Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 3:07 PM To: powys@rootsweb.com; Arlene Metzler Subject: [POWYS] Patronymics (Was Re: THOMAS DAVIES glyn tarrell) Arlene, I highly recommend (to everyone) reading Bryn Ellis' (one of our listers and a valuable member of the Montgomeryshire Gen. Soc.) excellent write-up on "The Patronymic System" - link below. You'll have a greater understanding of the liklihood of being related to someone with the same surname in Wales or indeed, even within the same parish. http://www.familyhistoryonline.net/database/MontgomeryGSprs.shtml#Patronym Kind regards, Julie Preston juliefpreston@sbcglobal.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene Metzler" <peachie13329@yahoo.com> To: <powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [POWYS] THOMAS DAVIES glyn tarrell >I have a gggrandfather, Thomas Davies/Davis born 1780-1871. Sin David D. >Davis/Davies 1812-1883. I have no idea where in Wales they were born but >they came to America together and are buried here. Any relation to you? > > William <wi11iam4.t.1913@tesco.net> wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "dave warnes" > To: "Powys rootsweb" > > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 1:44 PM > Subject: [POWYS] THOMAS DAVIES glyn tarrell > > >> Hi >> Can anyone help me on locating where someone who was born at "Glyn >> Tarell" >> would have been baptised? My ancestor was THOMAS DAVIES bn 1786-90 (he >> gives 2 different ages on census records). When i have looked Glyn Tarell >> seems to be a area in the Brecon Beacons and i can't seem to narrow down >> to a place? >> Regards >> Dave =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Arlene, I highly recommend (to everyone) reading Bryn Ellis' (one of our listers and a valuable member of the Montgomeryshire Gen. Soc.) excellent write-up on "The Patronymic System" - link below. You'll have a greater understanding of the liklihood of being related to someone with the same surname in Wales or indeed, even within the same parish. http://www.familyhistoryonline.net/database/MontgomeryGSprs.shtml#Patronym Kind regards, Julie Preston juliefpreston@sbcglobal.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene Metzler" <peachie13329@yahoo.com> To: <powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [POWYS] THOMAS DAVIES glyn tarrell >I have a gggrandfather, Thomas Davies/Davis born 1780-1871. Sin David D. >Davis/Davies 1812-1883. I have no idea where in Wales they were born but >they came to America together and are buried here. Any relation to you? > > William <wi11iam4.t.1913@tesco.net> wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "dave warnes" > To: "Powys rootsweb" > > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 1:44 PM > Subject: [POWYS] THOMAS DAVIES glyn tarrell > > >> Hi >> Can anyone help me on locating where someone who was born at "Glyn >> Tarell" >> would have been baptised? My ancestor was THOMAS DAVIES bn 1786-90 (he >> gives 2 different ages on census records). When i have looked Glyn Tarell >> seems to be a area in the Brecon Beacons and i can't seem to narrow down >> to a place? >> Regards >> Dave

----- Original Message ----- From: "dave warnes" <david1.warnes@ntlworld.com> To: "Powys rootsweb" <POWYS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 1:44 PM Subject: [POWYS] THOMAS DAVIES glyn tarrell > Hi > Can anyone help me on locating where someone who was born at "Glyn Tarell" > would have been baptised? My ancestor was THOMAS DAVIES bn 1786-90 (he > gives 2 different ages on census records). When i have looked Glyn Tarell > seems to be a area in the Brecon Beacons and i can't seem to narrow down > to a place? > Regards > Dave > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Can anyone help me on locating where someone who was born at "Glyn Tarell" would have been baptised? My ancestor was THOMAS DAVIES bn 1786-90 (he gives 2 different ages on census records). When i have looked Glyn Tarell seems to be a area in the Brecon Beacons and i can't seem to narrow down to a place? Regards Dave

I have a gggrandfather, Thomas Davies/Davis born 1780-1871. Sin David D. Davis/Davies 1812-1883. I have no idea where in Wales they were born but they came to America together and are buried here. Any relation to you? William <wi11iam4.t.1913@tesco.net> wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: "dave warnes" To: "Powys rootsweb" Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 1:44 PM Subject: [POWYS] THOMAS DAVIES glyn tarrell > Hi > Can anyone help me on locating where someone who was born at "Glyn Tarell" > would have been baptised? My ancestor was THOMAS DAVIES bn 1786-90 (he > gives 2 different ages on census records). When i have looked Glyn Tarell > seems to be a area in the Brecon Beacons and i can't seem to narrow down > to a place? > Regards > Dave > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message LIFE MAY NOT BE A PARTY WE HOPED FOR, BUT WHILE WE ARE HERE WE MIGHT AS WELL DANCE!

Dave, The 1881 Census shows individuals gave variations of this place name as their birthplace but it's not a census place in that year. I used the National Library of Wales database and found a possibility -- subject to correction if anyone knows better -- in the parish of Llanilltyd (referred to as Glyntarrell Chapel or Capel Illtud - looks like the same structure), Swansea & Brecon Diocese, which was a Chapel of Ease to the Parish Church of Defynnog *without its own PR* before 1776. Separate parish formed 1887. Powys County Archives have a microfilm of registers with christenings from 1776 -- originals held at NLW. I hope this helps. Kind regards, Julie Preston juliefpreston@sbcglobal.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "dave warnes" <david1.warnes@ntlworld.com> To: "Powys rootsweb" <POWYS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 8:44 AM Subject: [POWYS] THOMAS DAVIES glyn tarrell > Hi > Can anyone help me on locating where someone who was born at "Glyn Tarell" > would have been baptised? My ancestor was THOMAS DAVIES bn 1786-90 (he > gives 2 different ages on census records). When i have looked Glyn Tarell > seems to be a area in the Brecon Beacons and i can't seem to narrow down > to a place? > Regards > Dave > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Listers, Incommunicado till 27th Feb I shall be without internet access for the next few days because I am about to move from my temporary accommodation in the Upper Swansea Valley into a permanent new home in Brecon. During the move, my website will remain on-line at its usual URL, but I will not be able to update again it until 27th February, when my ISP has transferred my ADSL broadband internet connection to the new address and I have set up my computer equipment there. In particular, I will be unable to update my Weather in Wales feature until 27th February. I have already uploaded this week's Retrospective webpages. Once settled in my new home, I will return to normal updating of my website. Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, formerly of Ystalyfera and Godre'r Graig, now Brecon, Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2005.plus.com John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/ Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/ GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ Joint Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) RootsWeb mailing lists

Arthur Rogers EVANS birth was registered in Presteign. Emily,Gertrude & Bryan were registered in Kington Regards DI Jones

I do have a birth cert for Arthur Rogers EVANS which reads as follows;- born 14/12/1867 Nobley Walton name Arthur Rogers sex boy father Rees EVANS mother Eliza EVANS formerily DAVIES occ Labourer signature Eliza EVANS mother Nobley Walton the mark of. The 1881 census shows:- William ROGERS age 42 b Old Radnor Eliza ROGERS " 40 b Glascwm John ROGERS " 19 b Old Radnor Price ROGERS " 15 b Old Radnor Arthur ROGERS " 13 b Old Radnor Lewis J ROGERS " 11 b Cascob Elizabeth A ROGERS 8 b Titley Hereford Alice ROGERS 6 b Kington " Emily ROGERS 4 b " Bryan ROGERS 2 b " Gertrude ROGERS 1 b " I have birth certs for Emily,Gertrude,Bryan all of which have farther as William and Mother as Eliza. I will follow up your suggestions. Regards DI Jones

Hi Peter, If you look at the archives of the Powys List, you will find that we discussed Cwm and Blaencamlais in January 2007, in answer to a query by Ridge Williams of Canada, who was tracing his ancestry there. There will be quite a bit of info there for you to follow up. Hilary -----Original Message----- From: powys-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powys-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Heather Smith Sent: 22 February 2008 15:36 To: powys@rootsweb.com Subject: [POWYS] Blaencamlais & Cwmcamlais, Defynnog BRE Hi Peter I thought it may be of interest to you to know that my ancestors Thomas and Cecilia Jones worked and lived nearby to your barn. If you check the 1841 census for Blaencamlais Fach you will note that a Siscil (Cecilia) Jones is employed at the farm as a female servant. On the date of her marriage on 24 November 1843 she gives her residence address as the farm along with Thomas Jones her to be husband. They were both employed as servants at the farm. They married in Devynnock (spelt this way on the marriage lines) Church and later moved to Merthyr Tydfil. I visited the farm a few years ago and the farm house is still there now occupied by the farmers daughter. A new farmhouse is also there and the farmer said that there were a lot of records in his loft and he would take them to Brecon Library so I would check there to see if there is anything on the barn. Kind regards Heather Hello Everyone, I now own a converted barn which was part of The Neuadd at Cwmcamlais, called Tan Y Neuadd. I was wondering about the history of the Neuadd. Would any of you be able to provide any information? Many thanks Peter James =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.9/1292 - Release Date: 21/02/2008 16:09 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.9/1292 - Release Date: 21/02/2008 16:09

Hi Peter I thought it may be of interest to you to know that my ancestors Thomas and Cecilia Jones worked and lived nearby to your barn. If you check the 1841 census for Blaencamlais Fach you will note that a Siscil (Cecilia) Jones is employed at the farm as a female servant. On the date of her marriage on 24 November 1843 she gives her residence address as the farm along with Thomas Jones her to be husband. They were both employed as servants at the farm. They married in Devynnock (spelt this way on the marriage lines) Church and later moved to Merthyr Tydfil. I visited the farm a few years ago and the farm house is still there now occupied by the farmers daughter. A new farmhouse is also there and the farmer said that there were a lot of records in his loft and he would take them to Brecon Library so I would check there to see if there is anything on the barn. Kind regards Heather Hello Everyone, I now own a converted barn which was part of The Neuadd at Cwmcamlais, called Tan Y Neuadd. I was wondering about the history of the Neuadd. Would any of you be able to provide any information? Many thanks Peter James

In a message dated 2/22/2008 2:23:21 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, paulhiggins.mail@googlemail.com writes: I understand that some of my ancestors lived in and around the Berriew/Welshpool area. The surname is Higgins and the name James was a common given name. It is said that there is a family plot at St. Beunos Church in Berriew, where a not inconsiderable monument marks the site. We are probably thinking late 18th, early to mid 19th century and possibly later. Regards Paul Higgins Hi Paul, I have the booklets of MIs for Berriew and Bettws and have offered lookups. I also have a map of the cemetery and if you would like a scan, email me (below) off list. Parish Church of St Bueno, Berriew No.244 Sandstone hipped tomb Sacred to the Memory of / James HIGGINS / of Glanrhiew Farm in this Parish / who departed this life on the 28th day of November 1796 / also / Anne / Wife of James HIGGINS / who departed this life 1(3)th day of August 1807 {BR: Ann HIGGINS bur Aug 13 1807} No. 245 Sandstone hipped tomb In memory of / Jane / relict of Edward HIGGINS late of / Keel / She died at Penyfoel in the Par / ish of Castle Febry 1st 1836 Aged 71. No. 246 Sandstone hipped tomb In memory of / James HIGGINS / late of Penyvoil, who died at Welchpool (sic) / Feb 24th 1871, Aged 76 Years No. 250 Sandstone hipped tomb In memory of / Martha, wife of / Joseph HIGGINS, / of Peace Office in this Parish, / who died July 19th 1874 / aged 87 years No.251 Sandstone ledger (worn & broken) In Memory of / Edwd. HIGGINS late of Keel / in this Parish of Berriew / Died Octr. 10th. 1813 Aged 53 / Kind Angels watch my sleeping Dust / Till Christ come to Raise the Just / Then I shall with sweet surprize / In my dear Saviour's Image Rise No. 274 Sandstone hipped tomb In memory of / James HIGGINS (of Buttingto (sic*) formerly of Velindre in this parish) / who died Jany, 27th 1864 / aged 58 years // In memory of / Eliza Maria HIGGINS / wife of James HIGGINS who departed this life / November 3d 1854 Aged 46 Years // also / on the south side of this / tomb, James son of the above / James and Eliza Maria HIGGINS, / who died Oct 21 1859 / Aged 24 years. *Mason's error for Buttington No. 380 Sandstone urn on a large box plinth Sacred / to the memory of / Mary / third daughter of / James and Elizabeth HIGGINS / of Cross Lane Farm / in this parish / who departed this life / the 20th day of January 1819 / aged 15 years // also / in memory of / Elizabeth, / wife of James HIGGINS / who departed this life / on 19th day of June 1834 / aged 62 years // also / in memory of / James HIGGINS / who departed this life / the 6th day of July 1837 / aged 73 years. No. 385 Slate headstone (laid flat) In memory of / Mary Emma, / daughter of James, / and Anne HIGGINS, / of Cross Lane, / who died June 23, 1855, / Aged 3 years No. 392 Slate chest tomb In memory of / James HIGGINS, / of Crosslane in this Parish, / who died March 24th, 1864, Aged 62 years // In Memory of Anne, Relict of / James HIGGINS, of Crosslane, / who died September 15th. 1872 / Aged 63 Years. No. 393 Slate headstone (laid flat) IHS / In Memory of / Ann, / wife of Benjamin HIGGINS, / of this Village, / who died April 16th. 1875, / aged 35 years. / "Remember now thy Creator / in the days of thy youth." There are no HIGGINS in the MIs for Bettws. Regards Georgina Goodby Fisher Suttonian1@aol.com formerly from Sutton Coldfield now in Orange, California 6 miles east of Disneyland _www.goodbytree.org_ (http://www.goodbytree.org/) Goons member #418 One Name Study Goodby **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

Dear List, Sorry, I should've said that Richard EVANS was born in Trefeglwys, not in Carno. He was a son of Richard EVANS and Ann ASHTON of Trefeglwys. Thanks, Julie Preston ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Preston" <juliefpreston@sbcglobal.net> To: "Powys List" <POWYS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 2:46 PM Subject: [POWYS] (MGY) EVANS & JONES, Carno, 1871 Census > Dear List, > > I'm trying to help someone and could use a lookup in the 1871 Census for > Carno for the following family (who lived at Lluast-Isaf, Carno, with > another family in 1881): > > Richard EVANS, Sawyer, born Carno > Wife Mary (b.ca.1847 Llanbrynmair) > Dau. Annie > possibly more young children > > Also: > > Evan JONES, 57,Builder or Sawyer, b. Carno -- should be at Penrhiw > wife Margaret, 55, b. Darowen > + household members > > Thanks in advance for your help. > > Kind regards, > > Julie Preston > juliefpreston@sbcglobal.net > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Dear List, I'm trying to help someone and could use a lookup in the 1871 Census for Carno for the following family (who lived at Lluast-Isaf, Carno, with another family in 1881): Richard EVANS, Sawyer, born Carno Wife Mary (b.ca.1847 Llanbrynmair) Dau. Annie possibly more young children Also: Evan JONES, 57,Builder or Sawyer, b. Carno -- should be at Penrhiw wife Margaret, 55, b. Darowen + household members Thanks in advance for your help. Kind regards, Julie Preston juliefpreston@sbcglobal.net

"Paul Higgins" <paulhiggins.mail@googlemail.com> wrote [snipped] >I understand that some of my ancestors lived in and around the > Berriew/Welshpool area. The surname is Higgins and the name James was a > common given name. We came across many of that name when transcribing the Berriew parish registers for Montgomeryshire Genealogical Society, going back to the 1670s I think. These can be searched free online [payment of fees for details] at http://www.familyhistoryonline.net/ Or you can purchase the transcriptions [recommended when you have many in a parish] at http://home.freeuk.net/montgensoc/pages/pubns.htm Hope this helps, Bryn Ellis

I understand that some of my ancestors lived in and around the Berriew/Welshpool area. The surname is Higgins and the name James was a common given name. One, I understand ran a pub/coaching inn, the other was a farmer with a considerable holding. (This is, you understand family oral history, so I cannot be certain all the facts are 100% accurate). It is said that there is a family plot at St. Beunos Church in Berriew, where a not inconsiderable monument marks the site. We are probably thinking late 18th, early to mid 19th century and possibly later. Anybody who has any information about Higgins in the area, Irish immigrants who quite possibly initially worked on Lord Caernarfon's estates as gamekeepers. Thanks in advance. Regards Paul Higgins

Pictures of: Rhosili Bay & Worms Head, Gower (GLA); and Limestone Quarry, Penwyllt (BRE) Dear Listers, One day ahead of schedule, I have just uploaded next week's Retrospectives onto my website. They include: 1. A walk along the cliff path overlooking Rhosili Bay and Worms Head on the Gower Peninsula in the county of Glamorgan (twenty-five pictures). This three-page 'Images of Wales' feature was first shown in August 2004. 2. A visit to the old Limestone Quarry at Penwyllt in the Brecon Beacons National Park, county of Breconshire (eleven pictures). This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in October 1998. As usual, these webpages will be on display for one week. 'Retrospective Images of Wales' is at www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/retro/retro.htm While there, take the time to explore my 'Webpage Archive' and make your own Retrospective requests. Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Brecon, Mid-Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2005.plus.com John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/ Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/ GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ Joint Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) mailing lists

Hi Barbara and Julie, My thanks to both of you for your assistance, it is greatly appreciated. Regards Tom Dunn

Hi John Are you trying to confuse us by posting your photographs on a Friday, I thought it must be Saturday for a minute!! It doesn't take much to confuse me!! Spectacular photographs as usual but of Rhosili Bay today which brought back lovely memories of a camping holiday we enjoyed there about 20 years ago. I may not tell you as often as I should but your photographs are always appreciated John, thank you. Best wishes Shirley