Thanks Justine, it isn't the one I am mildly interested in near Llansantfraidd. Graham -----Original Message----- From: powys-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powys-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Orme Family Sent: 12 March 2008 09:42 To: powys@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [POWYS] RODENHURST TREDERWEN HOUSE In Llandrinio Justine Orme Sch. L.H.K. Hons. -----Original Message----- From: powys-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powys-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Graham Williams (Family History) Sent: 12 March 2008 10:24 p.m. To: powys@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [POWYS] RODENHURST TREDERWEN HOUSE Justine, Which Trederwen? Graham of Salop -----Original Message----- From: powys-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powys-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Orme Family Sent: 12 March 2008 02:15 To: powys@rootsweb.com Subject: [POWYS] RODENHURST TREDERWEN HOUSE I have just received the original copy of an annuity receipt for Mary Rodenhurst of Trederwen House, 1848. Any takers here? Found it on ebay. Cheers Justine =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1325 - Release Date: 11/03/2008 13:41 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1325 - Release Date: 11/03/2008 13:41 ___________________________________________________________ The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ___________________________________________________________ Try the all-new Yahoo! Mail. "The New Version is radically easier to use" � The Wall Street Journal http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

Justine, Which Trederwen? Graham of Salop -----Original Message----- From: powys-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:powys-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Orme Family Sent: 12 March 2008 02:15 To: powys@rootsweb.com Subject: [POWYS] RODENHURST TREDERWEN HOUSE I have just received the original copy of an annuity receipt for Mary Rodenhurst of Trederwen House, 1848. Any takers here? Found it on ebay. Cheers Justine =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1325 - Release Date: 11/03/2008 13:41 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1325 - Release Date: 11/03/2008 13:41 ___________________________________________________________ The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

Hello Dennis Yes please. Did you manage to go to the chapel and check the grave stones for my Jones family? Old emails below. Kind regards Heather ----- Original Message ----- From: <DCLEATOND@aol.com> To: <powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [POWYS] Howell Lewis Hi Heather, Are you still looking for the Glasbury Maesyronnen Chapel Photo?? Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: dcleatond@aol.com To: heather.smith8@virgin.net Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 6:10 PM Subject: Re: Thomas Jones & Maesyronnen Chapel Thanks Heather, I have't been that way as yet but I hope to go there soon. I will check as requested, Dennis, in RAD Wales, UK. In the rain this week....... From: heather.smith8@virgin.net To: DCLEATOND@aol.com Sent: Wed, 16 May 2007 12.17PM Subject: Thomas Jones & Maesyronnen Chapel Hi, Dennis I thought I would email to see if you had managed to get to the chapel yet and to ask if there is a sign outside which may give the name of the present secretary or minister. I am hoping that with luck they may have a burial book. This is one of my direct ancestors but he is not buried there as he married a girl from Boughrood named Elizabeth Lewis who lived in Boatside Cottage in Boughrood. Her father was Howell Lewis a tailor. Thomas worked at Cwm's Mill and the couple moved to Dowlais in Merthyr Tydfil and are buried in Cefn Coed Cemetery. Joshuah and Elizabeth Jones Thomas Jones parents may be buried at Maesyronnen. Thomas son of Joshuah of Cwm's Mill by Elizabeth his wife in the parish of Glasbury was baptised 16 September 1827. All the best and thanks Heather Smith in West Yorkshire Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 12:00 AM Subject: Re: [POWYS] BRE-Talgarth-POWELL/HOWELL HARRIS Thanks Heather, The Maesyronnen Chapel at Glasbury is just off the main Hereford road East, and can be seen from the road. It was a Presbyterian Chapel (linked to Trefecca Chapel I think), and is now a United Reformed Church I'm told. It is well signposted, but I have not been to it as yet. I think it has a stone wall surround with some graves, but I will check and get a photo for you soon, and info ref the graves. Best wishes, Dennis.

(Heather Smith - Please Note below) Suggest you communicate with Heather Smith via the Powys mailing list. I'll forward this to her and to the list. Julie Preston ----- Original Message ----- From: <taffywinsor@talktalk.net> To: <juliefpreston@sbcglobal.net> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 10:30 AM Subject: RE: Heather Smith Trying to Reach you - Howell Lewis Hello Julie I have had problems sending e-mail to Heather Smith, after the one message which did get through. I have contacted my broadband providers help line and they say there is a fault in the system, i have asked a relative to send my details to her. If you would be so kind as to relay to Heather that we do seem to be related (distantly), me by Sarah & James Cole Original Message: ----------------- From: Julie Preston juliefpreston@sbcglobal.net Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 09:42:53 -0400 To: taffywinsor@talktalk.net Subject: Heather Smith Trying to Reach you - Howell Lewis Hi, Heather Smith is having trouble emailing you. This is just a test to see if you're receiving emails from others. Please confirm if you get this and we'll have to figure out why Heather can't send to you. Many thanks, Julie Preston juliefpreston@sbcglobal.net Joint Admin., Powys Mailing List -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web

Hello, I have Evan Nokes b. abt 1809 in MONT in my family tree. He was married to Mary Jane Lewis in 1834 in Trevethin, MON. I recently found Batch C100281 on the IGI where I find a lot of the surname Evan(S) and a few Nokes. The area is around Welshpool. My theory is that Evan could have taken his first name from his mother's maiden name of Evan(S), as was common. My problem is how to sort through all the Evan(s) to figure out who were Evan Nokes family. Can someone tell me how to proceed with this? Evan is on the 1841 and 1851 Wales census, but he is in Pennsylvania in 1870, so I won't find any burial information. Thank you for any help. Regards, Tomi Oswego, NY _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008

Hi Heather, Are you still looking for the Glasbury Maesyronnen Chapel Photo?? Dennis, _dcleatond@aol.com_ (mailto:dcleatond@aol.com)

Heather, There could be a host of reasons -- the person's inbox is full, his/her ISP is down, the ISP is treating Powys list mail (or your particular ISP address) as spam, etc. I've sent an email to taffywinsor@talktalk.net from my email address to see if it makes it. Kind regards, Julie Preston juliefpreston@sbcglobal.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather Smith" <heather.smith8@virgin.net> To: <POWYS-L@rootsweb.com> Cc: <taffywinsor@talktalk.net> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 5:53 AM Subject: [POWYS] Howell Lewis > Good morning, Powys list > > I do not know what is wrong with Taffy Winsor address but it has returned > to me with delivery status notification failure. Can anyone inform me how > this would occur as it appears to be the correct address, please? > > Regards > > Heather

Good morning, Powys list I do not know what is wrong with Taffy Winsor address but it has returned to me with delivery status notification failure. Can anyone inform me how this would occur as it appears to be the correct address, please? Regards Heather ----- Original Message ----- From: Heather Smith To: taffywinsor@talktalk.net Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 7:02 PM Subject: Howell Lewis Hello Taffy I am pleased to hear from you.To which of Howell and Sarah Lewis (formerly Beavan) daughter's are you connected, please? Mine is Elizabeth who married Thomas Jones in Merthyr Tydfil Glamorgan. As far as I am aware the other daughter's were Mary, Sarah and Marcia. Sarah was widowed she married a Cole and lived at 227 High Street Dowlais. All the children were born in Boughrood Radnorshire. Are you by any chance emailing about the first Howel Lewis who died in 1817 in Boughrood, please? Please let me have more details of your ancestor's? Kind regards Heather From: taffywinsor@talktalk.net To: heather.smith8@virgin.net Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 4:32 PM Subject: Howell Lewis Heather, We do not know each other but we may have some thing in common. I found an e-mail you wrote to Dennis in 2001 when I did a Google search for a Howell Lewis. I am trying to trace distant family members and some of what you wrote seemed very close to what i have already found. You and i may be looking for the same people, the Howell i have found (through his daughter) can be traced to me. If we are looking at the same family, i have also found a link to the U.S. J.Winsor .

Sorry to butt in - would the Howell Lewis you are discussing have been born about 1877 in Cefn Coed y Cymmer? If so, I'm interested. Yours, Venita Homepage: Family History and Other Fascinations http://homepage.mac.com/venitar/home.html My Views of Wales http://homepage.mac.com/venitar/Travels/Travels.html Just Picture It - Wales (Links to other photo sites) http://homepage.mac.com/venitar/Photolinks/photolinks.html On Mar 11, 2008, at 3:53 AM, Heather Smith wrote: > Good morning, Powys list > > I do not know what is wrong with Taffy Winsor address but it has > returned to me with delivery status notification failure. Can > anyone inform me how this would occur as it appears to be the > correct address, please? > > Regards > > Heather > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Heather Smith > To: taffywinsor@talktalk.net > Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 7:02 PM > Subject: Howell Lewis > > > Hello Taffy > > I am pleased to hear from you.To which of Howell and Sarah Lewis > (formerly Beavan) daughter's are you connected, please? Mine is > Elizabeth who married Thomas Jones in Merthyr Tydfil Glamorgan. As > far as I am aware the other daughter's were Mary, Sarah and Marcia. > Sarah was widowed she married a Cole and lived at 227 High Street > Dowlais. All the children were born in Boughrood Radnorshire. > > Are you by any chance emailing about the first Howel Lewis who died > in 1817 in Boughrood, please? > > Please let me have more details of your ancestor's? > > Kind regards > > Heather > From: taffywinsor@talktalk.net > To: heather.smith8@virgin.net > Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 4:32 PM > Subject: Howell Lewis > > > Heather, > We do not know each other but we may have some thing in common. > I found an e-mail you wrote to Dennis in 2001 when I did a Google > search for a Howell Lewis. > I am trying to trace distant family members and some of what you > wrote seemed very close to what i have already found. You and i > may be looking for the same people, the Howell i have found > (through his daughter) can be traced to me. If we are looking at > the same family, i have also found a link to the U.S. > > J.Winsor . > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/ > powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

In an earlier post, I wrote that my ggggg grandfather, Evan Evans arrived in Pennsylvania in 1721 from Trefeglwys. He was the son of Morgan who was the son of Edward. Morgan was born in about 1654 and Edward in about 1625. I wonder if Richard Evans of Trefeglwys could be of the same family? Thanks, Tom Evans --- Larry Best <ldbest@persona.ca> wrote: > I have Richard Evans born cir 1817 Trefeglwys ; son > of Evan Evans that i am trying to find that Evan > Evans family....to get the tree ... > This Richard Evans married daughter of Susan > Ashton and Edward Morris's Ann born 1818 @ Carno. I > wonder if she is not the Ann Ashton ch. 1 August > 1818 @ Trefeglwys. > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message >

Hi Taffy I replied t your email at 19.02. Please check your in box. Regards Heather Smith Hello. I am trying to contact Heather Smith, who in 2001 wrote to Dennis in an e-mail.? The subject at the time was Howell Lewis, is there anyone who can assist me in contacting Heather.? I think she and I are searching for the same people. (I have links to the U.S., & Merthyr Tydfil and Derbys' 2008).? Key words,?Howell Lewis. tailor, Boughrood, Sarah and son. J.Winsor?.

Hello. I am trying to contact Heather Smith, who in 2001 wrote to Dennis in an e-mail.? The subject at the time was Howell Lewis, is there anyone who can assist me in contacting Heather.? I think she and I are searching for the same people. (I have links to the U.S., & Merthyr Tydfil and Derbys' 2008).? Key words,?Howell Lewis. tailor, Boughrood, Sarah and son. J.Winsor?.

Hello Malcolm Thanks for replying. Unfortunately Thomas Davies only gives Glyn Tarrell as where he was born on the 1851&1861 census but in the 1871 census he is in the workhouse in Brecon and says Devynock but this is the first time this appears. He died in May 1871 aged 82. As you can see i am having trouble where to track him down as to where i would have to look for a baptism. Would the chapel you mentioned be the most likely place? Best wishes Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: <malcolm.rhydyfro@talktalk.net> To: <powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [POWYS] THOMAS DAVIES glyn tarrell > Hi Dave > > I can remember Glyntarrell Chapel or Capel Illtud before it was demolished > around 1960-70. My cousin lives at Llanilltyd Farm around 100 yards from > the > old Chapel. > > The area of Glyn Tarrell probably refers to the valley area between the > source of the River Tarrell close to Storey Arms until if flows into the > River Usk at Brecon. > > Do you have an address where you ancestor Thomas Davies was born? > > I was born at a farm near Libanus and know the area well. > > Regards > > Malcolm > > > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Dave I can remember Glyntarrell Chapel or Capel Illtud before it was demolished around 1960-70. My cousin lives at Llanilltyd Farm around 100 yards from the old Chapel. The area of Glyn Tarrell probably refers to the valley area between the source of the River Tarrell close to Storey Arms until if flows into the River Usk at Brecon. Do you have an address where you ancestor Thomas Davies was born? I was born at a farm near Libanus and know the area well. Regards Malcolm

Pictures of: Spring in the Garden, Ystalyfera (GLA); and Swansea Valley: Three paintings by Dave Ball (GLA) Dear Listers, I have just uploaded this week's Retrospectives onto my website. They include: 1. Signs of an early Spring in a garden in Ystalyfera, county of Glamorgan (five pictures). This 'Images of Wales' feature was first shown in February 1998. 2. Three paintings of the Swansea Valley, created by Dave Ball. This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in December 1998. As usual, these webpages will be on display for one week. 'Retrospective Images of Wales' is at www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/retro/retro.htm While there, take the time to explore my 'Webpage Archive' and make your own Retrospective requests. Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Brecon, mid-Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2005.plus.com John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/ Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/ GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ Joint Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) mailing lists

I noticed that Tom Evans wondered if D Evans knew where Richard Evans lived in 1842 when he married Ann Ashton. The marriage ceritifcate stated he was of Trefeglwys and 12 Feb 1842 @ Church of Llandinam, It stated both father's Charles Ashton and Evan Evans were deceased. Ricahrd and Ann [nee Ashton's children were born in Trefeglwys..Tynsarn or as some spell it Tyn'sarn 1851 Census States they are of the Parish of Trefeglwys..dwelling place Tynsarn He was a farmer with 33 acres. Birth cretificate of their youngest Ann Evans shows birth date as 28 February 1850 states she was born there as well and baptised 23 Mar 1850 @ Tynysarn Trefeglwys Montgomery Wales . 1861 census shows Ann a widow living at her brother -in-law Daniel Davies..

Larry, My ggggg grandfather, Evan Evans was born in Trefeglwys in 1688 and came to Pennsylvania in 1721. He was the son of Morgan, the son of Edward. Edward was the son of Morgan, the son of Griffith. Are you familar with these names? Might our families be related? Thanks, Tom Evans --- Larry Best <ldbest@persona.ca> wrote: > I have been trying to contact KEVIN EDWARDS often > on Powys with notes about family. I can not get > through; so I am asking anyone who know him ; TO > PLEASE DOME A FAVOR AND PASS ON A MESSAGE that my > email address oi ldbest@persona.ca.and I have found > the Ashton line...to our tree.he has been querying > about and I am in contact with one of his other > Davies cousins... > > His Elizabeth [nee] Ashton Davies and my Anne > [nee Ashton] Evans and Samantha Coleman's Elizabeth > [nee Elizabeth Davies] and Cher'rie D Evans ]nee > Anne Ashton ] Evans are the same family. And the > answer we searched for as to who is the mother of > Elizabeth Anne;Thomas. and Jane lay in the various > census.\ > > 1841 census revealed Charles Ashton born @ Y > Trefeglwys married to Elizabeth and had children > Thomas and Jane too old to be Elizbaeht's > children..So that meant there was a first > wife...Dwelling place was Gribinfach Trefeglwys > [hope I spelt it right] . His occupation was > carpenter. > > 1851 census shows Charels Ashton @ > Glennafin-ucha Trefeglwys ; a carpenter age54 with > wife Elizabeth 26 born Trefeglwys; Chalres son age 2 > ; Daniel Davies son-in-law 26 Trefeglwys ag labourer > and Elizabeth Davies [wife to Daneil age 27 of Carno > 1851 census for Richard Evans family shows them > living @ Tysarn Trefeleglwys . He is 33 ; a farmer > with 33 acres; Ann is his wife age 34 Carno ; Mary > daughter is 8' Ricahrd 6 Charles 3 and Mary their > last child age 1. > > 1861 census of Daniel Davies shows he is > living @ Tysia Finnant Trefeglwys age 36 still agr > lab ; wife Elizabeth 27 of Carno ; Jane daughter 8 > born Trefeglwys; Margaret 5; and Elizabeth Davies 2 > .and it also includes Ann Evans 44 widow; Richard > Evans 16 farm labourer; Charles Evans 13 apprentice > shoemaker and Ann Ashton 11 scholar [Richard and > Ann Evans daughter is married to John Lewis. > > 1871 census of Daniel Davies once more shows > the family ties.Daniel Davies is still living @ > Tysia Finnant with wife Elizabeth; children Jane 18 > dressmaker, Margaret; apprentice seamstress; > Elizabeth 11 scholar; Daniel 8 scholar; and John 5. > Included in this house census is Mary [nee Evans] > Lewis now 28 widowed dressmaker; her children Mary A > 7; Lewis 3; Richard 1 and Harriet 2 months. > > Some helpful person had sent me the > Charles Ashton born cir 1860 @ Trefeglwys as my > line.. It jus did not compute; as the birth places > of both .Elizabeth and Anne was Carno; not > Trefeglwys.. > Charles Ashton ch 10 Jan 1792 Llanidloes > Trefeglwys son of Susan Ashton and Edward Morris.LSD > files has his christening date on it and it is on > marriage certifiacte to the first wife is Jane Jones > of Carno. so I began searching again > > CHARLES ASHTON ch 10 January 1792 @ Trefeglwys > and JANE JONES married 20 April 1816 @ Carno.. > And it states on the marriage certificate that > Edward Morris is the father of Charles > Ashton...mother is Susan Ashton. > Other children of Susan Ashton Thomas; Anne > and Elizabeth, and Jane Ashton. > Whether her and Edward Morris were ahead of > their time choosing common-in-law is not clear. She > had more than one child out of wedlock. it is > highly probable she remained faithful to > him..whether they lived together or not. > > Parents of Susan Ashton ch. 18 May 1767 @ Trefeglwys > is John Ashton ch 16 Oct 1734 and Susaanah Morgan . > Ant this John Ashton ch 16 Oct 1734 @ > Trefelgwys is the and son of Charles Ashton [1705- > 1752] @ Trefeglwys > Charles Ashton born 1698 is the 2nd son of > John Ashton ch.6 Feb 1667 Geseilfa Trefeglwys. > > NOTICE that even the next generation from this > Charles Ashton family..married into the Jones. > > Richard Charles Evans [son of Ann Ashton and Richard > Evans ] married Mary Jones born 1846 of > LLandbrynmair..@ Carno in 1867/68. > Census indicate this Mary Jones may be the daughter > of Evan Jones born 1824 and Margaret Owen @ Carno > > Elizabeth Davies [daughter of Elizabeth Ashton] > married Charles B Jones born 1860 @ Kerry > Montgomeryshire at Llanidloes.which then goes into > the William Wooseman family. > Are these two Jones related? > > > > . > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to POWYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message >

Dear Shirley, Many thanks for providing further examples of patronymic naming persisting well into the 19th century. If I find I need more documentation I will contact you again. Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Brecon, Mid-Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2005.plus.com John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/ Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/ GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ Joint Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) RootsWeb mailing lists ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr Shirley Vinall" <s.w.vinall@reading.ac.uk> To: <powys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [POWYS] Patronymics Dear John, I have some information which might be of interest to you in providing evidence for the persistence of elements of the patronymic system in parts of Wales in the 1851 census - and, possibly, even later. In the 1841 census of Merionethshire, six of the sons of my ancestor Edward Howell (or Howel) (who died in 1829 in Dolgellau) are to be found together on the family farm, with their mother. They are all listed with the surname Edwards (and what baptismal records I have found use the patronymic 'Edward', with their father being listed as Edward Howel); and Edwards is the surname which persisted. (Their mother is listed under her maiden surname, which is probably also a patronymic.) The oldest son, Howel/Howell, is already married, and on his own farm, also in Merionethshire. where he and his wife are also listed under the surname Edwards. However, their only son, Edward, is listed as Edward Howell (this is not the maiden surname of Howel's wife, whose father I think was probably Thomas Jones). In 1851, the family generally has the surname Edwards, but once again the entry for Howel Edwards' branch is intriguing. He and his wife are listed as Edwards, but their son Edward and his wife are 'Howels', while the son of Edward is 'Howel Edwards'. In 1861 we again have Howel Edwards, with his son Edward Howells (now 'Edward Jones Howells'); there are now three grandchildren: Howel Edwards, Thomas Jones Howells, and Catherine Edwards. We find the same names in 1871, in an entry which confirms that these three are all the children of Edward Jones Howells. By 1881, Edward Howells and his son Thomas and daughter Catherine are all listed as Howells. If you would like further documentation of this please contact me direct: I'd be happy to provide it. Best wishes Shirley Vinall

KEVIN EDWARDS HELP! WILL ANYONE WHO KNOW KEVIN HELP ME GET IN CONTCT WITH HIM AGAIN.. My email address changed and obviously so did his. If you how to get a hold of him or know him personally; would you please pass on the message his cousin Darlene from Canada is trying to contact him? I see on Powys he is seeking answers to the CHARLES ASHTON LINE we are from and I now have them..So would you pass on my email address as ldbest@persona.ca THANK YOU>.....IT IS HIGHLY APPRECIATED!! I have confirmed it through various sources. One source is the offspring that is in the Elizabeth [nee Ashton] Davies Family.who had done thorough research.. Everything she had match my own Orginally someone sent me the Charles Ashton of Longhill born cir 1760 died 1820 as my line. This has since been disproved..through records.That tree's data did not compute with known facts..so I began to search again. CHARLES ASHTON BORN CIR 1791 Trefeglwys CHRISTENED 10 JANUARY 1792 Trefeglwys the son of Susan Ashton and Edward Morris Married #1 20 April 1820 CARNO [marriage ceritcate shows father Edward Morris WIFE Jane Jones born about 1784 Carno Montgomery CHILDREN: 1. Anne Ashton born 1818 Carno married Richard Evans of Trefeglwys 12 february 1842 @ Llandiman. He is the son of Evan Evans according to Marriage certificate..which listed Charles Ashton as hers. They lived @ Tysarn Trefeglwys 1851 census Ann lives with her sister @ Tysia Finnant in 1861 1881 & 1891 @ Temperance Trefeglwys [They had 4 children] 2. Elizabeth Ashton ch.24 Oct 1824 Carno married Daniel Davies Of Trefeglwys 16 November 1859 @ Llanidloes . They lived @Glenn-ucha in 1851 census with her father Charles Ashton and her step-mother Elizabeth as well as Charles Ashton 1848 then listed as son to Charles..though proven to be Elizabeth Ashton's illegimate son @ Tysia Finnant 1861,1871 and 1881 @ Lower Finnant Trefeglwys.[They had 6 children including Charles 3. Thomas Ashton born 13 April 1828 Carno died 23 April 1828 Carno 4. Jane Ashton born 28 Dec 1830 Carno ch.15 Jan 1831 Carno. This CHARLES ASHTON is the SON OF SUSAN ASHTON the daughter of JOHN ASHTON AND SUSANNAH MORGAN Which takes the lineage bak to the Gesielfa Trefeglwys Ashtons/Evans. It is highly likely though Richard may be the child of Evan Evans and Sarah Ashton.of Geseilfa area .though I am leaning toward the Evan Evans of LlandbadFon.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME. I have been trying to get a message through to KEVIN EDWARDS on his email address and can not contact me on it. IF YOU KNOW HIM OR HAVE HIS NEW EMAIL ADDRESS; WOULD YOU PLEASE... forward this message...this is Darlene your cousin from Canada...and my new email address in ldbest@persona.ca. I have the answers you are looking for about Charles Ashton. THANK YOU. Kevin's ..Elizabeth [nee Ashton], and Samantha's Elizabeth Davies [nee Ashton] as well as Cher'rie D Evans and my Ann [nee Ashton ] families are of the same Charles Ashton ch.10 Januray 1792@ Trefelwys and this Charles married #1 Jane Jones of Carno 20 April 1816 @ Carno. And he married # Elizabeth Davies 22 July 1837 @ Trefeglwys. He is the illegimate son of Susan Ashton [twin] ch 18 May 1767 Trefeglwys daughter of John Ashton died 10 March 1801 Trefeglwys and Susannah Morgan [died 17 September 1802. Susan is mentioned in her father's will. This John Aston is the som of Charles Ashton and Mary [nee Jarman] Richards. Marriage ceritifcate of Charles Ashton and Jane Jones shows that his father is named as Edward Morris. For those who may be searching: Charles Ashton and Jane Jones children: 1. Ann Ashton born 1818 Carno married Richard Evans born cir 1817 [census date] son of Evan Evans on 12 February 1842 Llanidnam children i.Mary born 1842 married #1 John Lewis #2 Edward Owen ii. Richard Charles born 4 Nov 1844 Trefeglwys married #1 Mary Jones @ Carno 1867/8 #2 Margaret A Hughes from South Wales inColumbus Ohio 1888. iii. Charles Evans born 1848 Trefeglwys married #1 Mary [Thomas I think]about 1869 #2Jane Roberts about 1888.her mother was Sarah Roberts iv.Annie Evans born 28 Feb 1850 Tysarn Trefelwys ch 23 March 1850 married Richard Corbett..[son of John Corbett and Ann] born 1820 Kerry Montgomery on 18 Jul 1874 2. Elizabeth Asthon bap 24 Oct 1824 Carno married Daniel Davies [son of Davis Davies] 16 Nov 1850 Trefeglwys They lived @ Tysia Finnant Trefeglwys and in 1881 Lower Finnant Trefeglwys Children of Daniel Davies and Elizabeth Ashton; i. Jane Davies born 1850 [1851-1861-1871 census dates] ii. Margaret Davies born 1853 iii. Elizabeth Davies married Charles B Davies 17 Nov 1877 Llanidloes iv. Daniel Davies born 1 Jan 1861 Trefeglwys married Mary Jane Thomas 1883 Trefeglwys v.John Davies born 1866 3.Charles Ashton born 4 September 1848 Tyn'sarn Trefeglwys died 13 October 1899 tragically @ his own hands. Married Jennett Williams. 1881 census reveals a step-son Ricahrd William Jones born 1858 @ Trawsfynydd Merioneth. This Charles Ashton is the Literary Policeman; and well reknown in Wales. 4.Thomas Ashton born 13 June 1823 Glanrafon Carno died 25 April 1828 Llanidloes 5.Jane Ashton born 25 December 1830 Carno ch.29 January 1831 Llanidloes