Dear Listers, In October 2010, 81 messages were distributed via the Powys List, a considerable improvement over September's figure, but still a disturbingly low level of activity considering the number of Powys List members. Currently there are 436 members subscribed to the List, a net increase of one on last month's figure. I hope to be able to report a more substantial increase in list activity by the end of November, although only 11 messages have so far been distributed and we are already one third of the way through the month! Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Brecon, Mid-Wales, UK E-mail: [email protected] Joint Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) RootsWeb mailing lists John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/ Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/ GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ Brecknock FH Group Webmaster: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wlsbfhs/

Hello to you all, I recently found my ggg,great-grandfather Walter Chambers on the 1841 Wales Census rejoicing in the name of Waller. Shock ,horror he is living with my ggggrandmother before their marriage which took place in Merthyr in 1846. They are living in Llangendeirne ,Llandefeilog,Kidwelly Carms.Place seems to be Gelly Day? Dog? He claims to be a M S and she appears as a FS. Having been born on a farm in Glasbury and having given his occupation as farmer in 1846 I`m wondering what he might be doing there. He gives his age as 41 though he was in fact 49.Catherine Jones is only 20 I have looked for a previous marriage for him but have so far not found one. Anyone familiar with this area? Would be grateful for pointers as to how I might find out more. Jill in Sussex.

Thank you Sue, Hilary _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sue Sent: 03 November 2010 17:03 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [POWYS] MADDY Hi Hilary, Thank you for the e-mail address regarding the Cross Oaks Maddys. I will send you the Marriage Certificate as soon as possible but am having a problem with my scanner at the moment. With best wishes Sue =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1153 / Virus Database: 424/3234 - Release Date: 11/02/10

Hi Hilary, Thank you for the e-mail address regarding the Cross Oaks Maddys. I will send you the Marriage Certificate as soon as possible but am having a problem with my scanner at the moment. With best wishes Sue

Hello Martin, Thanks for the information. Roy

You are probably better with the Clwyd list but there is a Denbighshire list http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/WLS/CLWYD.html http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/WLS/WLS-DENBIGHSHIRE.html Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS / Gwynedd FHS -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of R Davies Sent: 02 November 2010 11:49 To: [email protected] Subject: [POWYS] Abergele Good Morning Can anyone point me in the right direction?I am trying to get on the Denbigh list but every time I click on Denbigh on the main Rootsweb page,nothing happens.Even though Denbigh is shown to have a rootsweb list. I am sorry to have to ask the question on this list,but I have no idea what to do,to get on it. Thank you Roy

Good Morning Can anyone point me in the right direction?I am trying to get on the Denbigh list but every time I click on Denbigh on the main Rootsweb page,nothing happens.Even though Denbigh is shown to have a rootsweb list. I am sorry to have to ask the question on this list,but I have no idea what to do,to get on it. Thank you Roy

Hi Sue, Yes please, send it as a scanned attachment if you like. Hilary _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sue Sent: 02 November 2010 11:16 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [POWYS] MADDY Hi Hilary, again. I have the Marriage Certificate for your Walter and Elizabeth. If you wish to have it I would be pleased to send it to you. With best wishes Sue =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1153 / Virus Database: 424/3232 - Release Date: 11/01/10

Hi Hilary, again. I have the Marriage Certificate for your Walter and Elizabeth. If you wish to have it I would be pleased to send it to you. With best wishes Sue

Hi Hilary, Thank you. Sorry we do not connect with that branch. Best wishes Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hilary or Owen Williams" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [POWYS] MADDY > Hi Sue, > > > > It was my connection. Many thanks for that information. > > > > I have just received some info re the Tal y bont Maddys as a result of > your > request in the Brecknock Group Newsletter. Will send it to you tomorrow, > > > > Hilary Williams > > BRE Group PFHS > > > > _____ > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Sue > Sent: 01 November 2010 20:39 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [POWYS] MADDY > > > > Hi, > > I'm sorry to say that I cannot remember who the person this e-mail is > intended for is but am posting to the Powys list in the hope that they > read > this e-mail. > > I am referring to a Walter Maddy who married an Elizabeth Davies on 28 > July > 1885 in Brecknock. She was from Battle Village. The person I > correspondended with was related to this Walter Maddy through his marriage > to Elizabeth Davies who was not actually the daughter of David Davies but > his wife was her aunt. Elizabeth was actually the daughter of David > Davies > wife and her mother died very young from smallpox. > My correspondent was related to this Walter Maddy and I believed he was > part > of my family but have now found my family buried at Talybont on Usk. My > Walter died aged 40 and his wife Elizabeth died only a year after they > married. I would just like to say to this correspondent that this family > does not belong to me. Apparently this family all ended up in Sheffield > and Walter was living in Grimesthorpe Yorkshire at the time of his > marriage. > His father's name was Samuel Maddy. My Walter's father's name would > have > been Evan. > > I hope this gets to the person concerned. I'm sorry it means that we are > not immediately related although I believe all the Maddys are related at > some point in history. > > With best wishes, > > Sue in Suffolk > > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > _____ > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1153 / Virus Database: 424/3230 - Release Date: 10/31/10 > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Sue, It was my connection. Many thanks for that information. I have just received some info re the Tal y bont Maddys as a result of your request in the Brecknock Group Newsletter. Will send it to you tomorrow, Hilary Williams BRE Group PFHS _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sue Sent: 01 November 2010 20:39 To: [email protected] Subject: [POWYS] MADDY Hi, I'm sorry to say that I cannot remember who the person this e-mail is intended for is but am posting to the Powys list in the hope that they read this e-mail. I am referring to a Walter Maddy who married an Elizabeth Davies on 28 July 1885 in Brecknock. She was from Battle Village. The person I correspondended with was related to this Walter Maddy through his marriage to Elizabeth Davies who was not actually the daughter of David Davies but his wife was her aunt. Elizabeth was actually the daughter of David Davies wife and her mother died very young from smallpox. My correspondent was related to this Walter Maddy and I believed he was part of my family but have now found my family buried at Talybont on Usk. My Walter died aged 40 and his wife Elizabeth died only a year after they married. I would just like to say to this correspondent that this family does not belong to me. Apparently this family all ended up in Sheffield and Walter was living in Grimesthorpe Yorkshire at the time of his marriage. His father's name was Samuel Maddy. My Walter's father's name would have been Evan. I hope this gets to the person concerned. I'm sorry it means that we are not immediately related although I believe all the Maddys are related at some point in history. With best wishes, Sue in Suffolk =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1153 / Virus Database: 424/3230 - Release Date: 10/31/10

Hi, I'm sorry to say that I cannot remember who the person this e-mail is intended for is but am posting to the Powys list in the hope that they read this e-mail. I am referring to a Walter Maddy who married an Elizabeth Davies on 28 July 1885 in Brecknock. She was from Battle Village. The person I correspondended with was related to this Walter Maddy through his marriage to Elizabeth Davies who was not actually the daughter of David Davies but his wife was her aunt. Elizabeth was actually the daughter of David Davies wife and her mother died very young from smallpox. My correspondent was related to this Walter Maddy and I believed he was part of my family but have now found my family buried at Talybont on Usk. My Walter died aged 40 and his wife Elizabeth died only a year after they married. I would just like to say to this correspondent that this family does not belong to me. Apparently this family all ended up in Sheffield and Walter was living in Grimesthorpe Yorkshire at the time of his marriage. His father's name was Samuel Maddy. My Walter's father's name would have been Evan. I hope this gets to the person concerned. I'm sorry it means that we are not immediately related although I believe all the Maddys are related at some point in history. With best wishes, Sue in Suffolk

Many thanks Lorraine for your help. I had forgotten about the Family Search Record pilot search. Those people are definitely mine but a number of the details conflict with the birth details I have been given - so it is probably another case of misinformation which I keep finding as I delve into this side of my family. I shall continue on the trail of my elusive and "story-telling" family. Regards Susan -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lorraine Clarke Sent: Thursday, 28 October 2010 12:15 p.m. To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [POWYS] help requested - HUGHES in "Wales" >From Family search Record pilot search <...snip ...> Hopefully something of this is new Regards Lorraine Clarke Perth Western Australia bscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have come to a solid brick wall regarding my 2 x great grandparents. I cannot find them anywhere in "Wales" and I cannot find a birth record for Ellen Charlotte Hughes in Tenby/Pembrokeshire. The date and place as those which she, herself told her family but I have not found any documentation to confirm it. Does anyone recognise this HUGHES family or have any suggestions as to where I could try next? Their details are: Francis Colburn Acheson Hughes Born: abt 1824 - Wales (date extrapolated from his death record) Died: 3 June 1862 - Monghyr, India (He was not in the army nor the East India Co; is recorded as a Vakeel in his death record, which is a sort of lawyer.) Buried: 4 June 1862 - Monghyr, India - death record Emma Unknown Born: abt 1831 - Wales (date extrapolated from her death record) Died: 1 December 1906 - Calcutta, India Buried: 2 December 1906, Lower Circular Road Cemetery, Calcutta - death record Children: Edward Montogomery Hughes - 1855 - Wales? (on death record) Ellen Charlotte Hughes - 15 October 1860 - Tenby, Pembrokeshire. Regards to the list Susan

>From Family search Record pilot search Name: Ellen Charlotte Hughes Gender: Female Baptism/Christening Date: 05 Jun 1869 Baptism/Christening Place: Birth Date: 15 Oct 1860 Birthplace: Calcutta, Bengal, India Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Francis Hughes Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Emma Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C75021-7 System Origin: India-EASy Source Film Number: 499034 Reference Number: v 128 Collection: India Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947 Name: Edward Hughes Gender: Male Baptism/Christening Date: 02 Jun 1866 Baptism/Christening Place: India Birth Date: 15 Oct 1865 Birthplace: Calcutta Bengal India Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Francis Hughes Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Emma Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C75020-4 System Origin: India-ODM Source Film Number: 499022 Reference Number: Collection: India Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947 Groom's Name: William Francis Hughes Groom's Birth Date: 1852 Groom's Birthplace: Groom's Age: 32 Bride's Name: Jane Henrietta Holloway Bride's Birth Date: 1862 Bride's Birthplace: Bride's Age: 22 Marriage Date: 02 Nov 1884 Marriage Place: Kidderpore, Bengal, India Groom's Father's Name: Francis Cockburn Acheson Hughes Groom's Mother's Name: Bride's Father's Name: Samuel Aitken Holloway Bride's Mother's Name: Groom's Race: Groom's Marital Status: Single Groom's Previous Wife's Name: Bride's Race: Bride's Marital Status: Single Bride's Previous Husband's Name: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M75029-5 System Origin: India-EASy Source Film Number: 510874 Reference Number: Film 510-874 Collection: India Marriages, 1792-1948 Groom's Name: Sydney Stanford Kellett Groom's Birth Date: Groom's Birthplace: Groom's Age: Bride's Name: Ellen Charlotte Hughes Bride's Birth Date: Bride's Birthplace: Bride's Age: Marriage Date: 10 Aug 1881 Marriage Place: Kidderpore, Bengal, India Groom's Father's Name: Charles Alfred Auckland Kellett Groom's Mother's Name: Bride's Father's Name: Francis Cockburn Acheson Hughes Bride's Mother's Name: Groom's Race: Groom's Marital Status: Single Groom's Previous Wife's Name: Bride's Race: Bride's Marital Status: Single Bride's Previous Husband's Name: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M75028-6 System Origin: India-EASy Source Film Number: 510866 Reference Number: 510-866 Collection: India Marriages, 1792-1948 Hopefully something of this is new Regards Lorraine Clarke Perth Western Australia -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Susan Simmons Sent: Thursday, 28 October 2010 4:37 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [POWYS] help requested - HUGHES in "Wales" I have come to a solid brick wall regarding my 2 x great grandparents. I cannot find them anywhere in "Wales" and I cannot find a birth record for Ellen Charlotte Hughes in Tenby/Pembrokeshire. The date and place as those which she, herself told her family but I have not found any documentation to confirm it. Does anyone recognise this HUGHES family or have any suggestions as to where I could try next? Their details are: Francis Colburn Acheson Hughes Born: abt 1824 - Wales (date extrapolated from his death record) Died: 3 June 1862 - Monghyr, India (He was not in the army nor the East India Co; is recorded as a Vakeel in his death record, which is a sort of lawyer.) Buried: 4 June 1862 - Monghyr, India - death record Emma Unknown Born: abt 1831 - Wales (date extrapolated from her death record) Died: 1 December 1906 - Calcutta, India Buried: 2 December 1906, Lower Circular Road Cemetery, Calcutta - death record Children: Edward Montogomery Hughes - 1855 - Wales? (on death record) Ellen Charlotte Hughes - 15 October 1860 - Tenby, Pembrokeshire. Regards to the list Susan =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I wonder if anyone on the lists would have a list of marriages for Maddys in Radnorshire. I would be grateful for a copy if anyone has one. Thank you Sue in Suffolk

Dear Listers, Those of you with Breconshire interests may like to know that the latest monthly Newsletter (No. 12) produced by the Powys Family History Society's 'Brecknock Group' is released today. This and all previous Newsletters can be viewed as PDF files on the Brecknock Group's website at: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wlsbfhs/ On the homepage, click on 'News' then 'Newsletters'. This evening's meeting of the Brecknock Group is being held at 7:30 pm at the Victoria Hall, Llanwrtyd Wells. The speaker is Roger Davies and the topic: "North West Breconshire - Places and People" The meeting is open to everyone. Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Brecon, Mid-Wales, UK E-mail: [email protected] John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/ Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/ GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ Brecknock FH Group Webmaster: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wlsbfhs/ Joint Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) RootsWeb mailing lists

Dear Listers, I've just come across a new (to me) on-line resource which may be helpful when trying to identify and locate a Welsh place-name. The resource held by the Archive Department of Bangor University in collaboration with the Arts and Humanities Digitisation Service. It is the "Archif Melville Richards" place-name database, whose search page is at: http://www.e-gymraeg.co.uk/enwaulleoedd/amr/cronfa_en.aspx The resource is accessed via a 'User Agreement' webpage, whose terms of use have to be accepted as a condition of using the database. A typical entry in the database contains the following features: head-name, location (township, parish, pre-1974 county or other territorial designation such as commote or island), grid reference (NGR), historical form, date, source, supplementary references. Archif Melville Richards allocates a separate field to each feature. But before performing a search, I strongly advise you to follow the links to 'History & Background' and 'User Guide', near the top right of each webpage. Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Brecon, Mid-Wales, UK E-mail: [email protected] John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/ Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/ GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ Brecknock FH Group Webmaster: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wlsbfhs/ Joint Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) RootsWeb mailing lists

Gordon Reed <[email protected]> wrote: I can get as far as 'Counties of Wales', but I cannot find a meaningful 'Note 2' Please advise. =============== Dear Gordon, Further to my earlier e-mail, a more direct route to my new webpage is to go to the 'Welsh Family History Archive' main page at: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/ Look for the 'Maps of Wales' heading (top of right hand column). Click on the "Is Monmouthshire in England or in Wales?" link. Voilà!! Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Brecon, Mid-Wales, UK E-mail: [email protected] John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/ Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/ GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ Brecknock FH Group Webmaster: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wlsbfhs/ Joint Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) RootsWeb mailing lists

Gordon Reed <[email protected]> wrote: I can get as far as 'Counties of Wales', but I cannot find a meaningful 'Note 2' Please advise. =============== Dear Gordon, http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/maps/walesgeog.htm#county takes you directly to the 'Counties of Wales' section. Note 2 is alongside the bottom of the counties map. It states: --------- Monmouthshire is sometimes (wrongly) claimed to be an English rather than Welsh county, hence the commonly used phrase 'South Wales and Monmouthshire'. The true status of Monmouthshire as a Welsh county is explained in detail **elsewhere** on this website. ---------- The word 'elsewhere' links to the new webpage. Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Brecon, Mid-Wales, UK E-mail: [email protected] John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/ Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/ GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ Brecknock FH Group Webmaster: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wlsbfhs/ Joint Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) RootsWeb mailing lists