The Powys list has always been one of my favorite lists, and I have learned a lot from it, since I'm an American researching my husband's Montgomeryshire ancestors. While I've visited the area, there's nothing to replace the knowledge of the people who grew up there and live there. As far as I can recall, people have always been very well-behaved and helpful towards others --- until a few situations during the last several days. IMHO (in my humble opinion), if an individual has an issue with how someone says something, it needs to be resolved off-list unless it relates directly to the interpretation of a record or another genealogy-related issue. Merry Christmas to all those who have helped me in the past, and to all those who may be undiscovered cousins. Katherine Benbow Historian for the Charles Benbow Family: http://www.benbowfamily.com NCGenWeb Western Piedmont Regional Coordinator Administrator for 7 Family Tree DNA surname projects

Would some kind soul please enlighten an ignorant old fool. What do <G> and LOL mean, please. Happy Christmas to all listers, including those who LOL and <G> Gordon (in snowed up Birmingham) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eliz Hanebury" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [POWYS] `Hope and Heartbreak, A social history of Wales and >> the Welsh, 1776-1871, was Powys List Activity or lack of same- and a question about occupations I will just have to pray anyone who wants one soon has it already <G> LOL right now I am down to change in pockets and under cushions <G> Eliz On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 1:36 PM, ann bryan <[email protected]> wrote: > Amazon have only 4 in stock, and it's £15.19. Be quick before they all go. > Ann. > > --- On Tue, 21/12/10, Eliz Hanebury <[email protected]> wrote: > > > From: Eliz Hanebury <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [POWYS] Powys List Activity or lack of same- and a question > about occupations > To: [email protected] > Date: Tuesday, 21 December, 2010, 18:02 > > > I found it finally at alibris <G> I don't know if it is currently in > residence in the UK <G> > =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Amazon have only 4 in stock, and it's £15.19. Be quick before they all go. Ann. --- On Tue, 21/12/10, Eliz Hanebury <[email protected]> wrote: From: Eliz Hanebury <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [POWYS] Powys List Activity or lack of same- and a question about occupations To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, 21 December, 2010, 18:02 I found it finally at alibris <G> I don't know if it is currently in residence in the UK <G> Eliz On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 7:33 AM, ann bryan <[email protected]> wrote: > I got mine from that huge online bookstore based in Swansea, I think. If not then try ABE boooks. > Ann. > > --- On Mon, 20/12/10, Eliz Hanebury <[email protected]> wrote: > > > From: Eliz Hanebury <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [POWYS] Powys List Activity or lack of same- and a question about occupations > To: [email protected] > Date: Monday, 20 December, 2010, 23:40 > > > If I can find it, it sounds perfect, thanks > > > Eliz > > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Mike Cox <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hello Eliz. >> >> I'd recommend: `Hope and Heartbreak, A social history of Wales and >> the Welsh, 1776-1871,` Russell Davies, University of Wales Press, >> ISBN 0-7083-1932-7. Entertaining as well as informative and instructive. >> >> Heddwch >> >> Mike. >> >> Mike Llywelyn Cox >> [email protected] >> http://www.ppeyes.org.uk >> http://micoxpplog.blogspot.com >> A NSUN (http://www.nsun.org.uk) member >> A http://www.solnetwork.org.uk member. >> Family History www.wotashower.co.uk >> >> On 19 Dec 2010, at 22:24, Eliz Hanebury wrote: >> >>> It really is up to us to find things we want to know that might be >>> "general knowledge", topics that several people are interested in. I >>> joined this list in hope of perhaps coming across my 2Xggf whose place >>> of birth is totally unknown to me. There are three possibles found in >>> LDS records so I am trying to straddle Wales <G> His son, my ggf, >>> married a woman whose family was born and several generations deep in >>> Merthyr, I can find more to mine there. >>> >>> I check all messages, because we keep replying to "Digest" and >>> forgetting to change the subject <G> so I find items others might not. >>> >>> I really would like to find out more about economics in Wales and life >>> style in various areas, but Wm R Davis was in the US by 1851 having >>> been born in 1816 so the more modern items I read with interest but >>> <G> they aren't much USE except to let me know how things were. >>> >>> Wm R Davis (or Davies who knows) was a blacksmith, my Merthyr family >>> were iron workers, were there other fairly industrial areas in Wales >>> in the 1830-40 era? >>> >>> >>> >>> Eliz >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Peter Evans >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Hello All, >>>> >>>>> >>>>> With Christmas intervening, it's unlikely there will be a >>>>> significant >>>>> increase in list activity in December, but we live in hope! >>>> >>>> One of the reasons, from my point of view, for not being active in >>>> this list >>>> is that I don't see much meaningful activity. I look at the >>>> subject and >>>> quickly decide whether it is worth opening up the message. I >>>> subscribe to >>>> many lists. >>>> >>>> I recently started a thread with the subject Montgomeryshire Quarter >>>> Sessions... >>>> >>>> There were some excellent replies. >>>> >>>> However, this morning, I looked at the subject: POWYS Digest, Vol >>>> 5, Issue >>>> 343. I do not, as a rule, read any subject with a subject line >>>> like this. >>>> The only reason I saw it was it happened to be at the top of the >>>> list of >>>> incoming messages. >>>> >>>> I was surprised to find a discussion on a totally different >>>> subject: yes, >>>> you guessed it - Montgomeryshire Quarter Sessions. >>>> >>>> Do people realise that it is highly likely that their message will >>>> never >>>> been seen in the list archives? >>>> >>>> Why doesn't the list moderator bring these posters back into line? >>>> >>>> Furthermore, am I now using the right subject line? >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>>  Peter Evans >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> =================== >>>> Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/ >>>> powyslist.htm >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS- >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> >>> =================== >>> Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/ >>> powyslist.htm >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS- >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> =================== >> Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

LOL=Laugh out Loud from back in the day when you paid by the byte for access <G> and that is a grin and if you wish to explore the :-) wikipedia has http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_emoticons Or the one with both icons and acronyms http://www.netresult.ws/emoticons.htm That shorthand is where FAQ = frequently asked question comes from eliz On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Gordon Reed <[email protected]> wrote: > Would some kind soul please enlighten an ignorant old fool. > What do <G> and LOL mean, please. > > Happy Christmas to all listers, including those who LOL and <G> > > Gordon (in snowed up Birmingham) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eliz Hanebury" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 7:24 PM > Subject: Re: [POWYS] `Hope and Heartbreak, A social history of Wales and >> > the Welsh, 1776-1871, was Powys List Activity or lack of same- and a > question about occupations > > > I will just have to pray anyone who wants one soon has it already <G> > LOL right now I am down to change in pockets and under cushions <G> > > > > Eliz > > On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 1:36 PM, ann bryan <[email protected]> wrote: >> Amazon have only 4 in stock, and it's £15.19. Be quick before they all go. >> Ann. >> >> --- On Tue, 21/12/10, Eliz Hanebury <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> From: Eliz Hanebury <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [POWYS] Powys List Activity or lack of same- and a question >> about occupations >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Tuesday, 21 December, 2010, 18:02 >> >> >> I found it finally at alibris <G> I don't know if it is currently in >> residence in the UK <G> >> > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I will just have to pray anyone who wants one soon has it already <G> LOL right now I am down to change in pockets and under cushions <G> Eliz On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 1:36 PM, ann bryan <[email protected]> wrote: > Amazon have only 4 in stock, and it's £15.19. Be quick before they all go. Ann. > > --- On Tue, 21/12/10, Eliz Hanebury <[email protected]> wrote: > > > From: Eliz Hanebury <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [POWYS] Powys List Activity or lack of same- and a question about occupations > To: [email protected] > Date: Tuesday, 21 December, 2010, 18:02 > > > I found it finally at alibris <G> I don't know if it is currently in > residence in the UK <G> >

I found it finally at alibris <G> I don't know if it is currently in residence in the UK <G> Eliz On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 7:33 AM, ann bryan <[email protected]> wrote: > I got mine from that huge online bookstore based in Swansea, I think. If not then try ABE boooks. > Ann. > > --- On Mon, 20/12/10, Eliz Hanebury <[email protected]> wrote: > > > From: Eliz Hanebury <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [POWYS] Powys List Activity or lack of same- and a question about occupations > To: [email protected] > Date: Monday, 20 December, 2010, 23:40 > > > If I can find it, it sounds perfect, thanks > > > Eliz > > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Mike Cox <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hello Eliz. >> >> I'd recommend: `Hope and Heartbreak, A social history of Wales and >> the Welsh, 1776-1871,` Russell Davies, University of Wales Press, >> ISBN 0-7083-1932-7. Entertaining as well as informative and instructive. >> >> Heddwch >> >> Mike. >> >> Mike Llywelyn Cox >> [email protected] >> http://www.ppeyes.org.uk >> http://micoxpplog.blogspot.com >> A NSUN (http://www.nsun.org.uk) member >> A http://www.solnetwork.org.uk member. >> Family History www.wotashower.co.uk >> >> On 19 Dec 2010, at 22:24, Eliz Hanebury wrote: >> >>> It really is up to us to find things we want to know that might be >>> "general knowledge", topics that several people are interested in. I >>> joined this list in hope of perhaps coming across my 2Xggf whose place >>> of birth is totally unknown to me. There are three possibles found in >>> LDS records so I am trying to straddle Wales <G> His son, my ggf, >>> married a woman whose family was born and several generations deep in >>> Merthyr, I can find more to mine there. >>> >>> I check all messages, because we keep replying to "Digest" and >>> forgetting to change the subject <G> so I find items others might not. >>> >>> I really would like to find out more about economics in Wales and life >>> style in various areas, but Wm R Davis was in the US by 1851 having >>> been born in 1816 so the more modern items I read with interest but >>> <G> they aren't much USE except to let me know how things were. >>> >>> Wm R Davis (or Davies who knows) was a blacksmith, my Merthyr family >>> were iron workers, were there other fairly industrial areas in Wales >>> in the 1830-40 era? >>> >>> >>> >>> Eliz >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Peter Evans >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Hello All, >>>> >>>>> >>>>> With Christmas intervening, it's unlikely there will be a >>>>> significant >>>>> increase in list activity in December, but we live in hope! >>>> >>>> One of the reasons, from my point of view, for not being active in >>>> this list >>>> is that I don't see much meaningful activity. I look at the >>>> subject and >>>> quickly decide whether it is worth opening up the message. I >>>> subscribe to >>>> many lists. >>>> >>>> I recently started a thread with the subject Montgomeryshire Quarter >>>> Sessions... >>>> >>>> There were some excellent replies. >>>> >>>> However, this morning, I looked at the subject: POWYS Digest, Vol >>>> 5, Issue >>>> 343. I do not, as a rule, read any subject with a subject line >>>> like this. >>>> The only reason I saw it was it happened to be at the top of the >>>> list of >>>> incoming messages. >>>> >>>> I was surprised to find a discussion on a totally different >>>> subject: yes, >>>> you guessed it - Montgomeryshire Quarter Sessions. >>>> >>>> Do people realise that it is highly likely that their message will >>>> never >>>> been seen in the list archives? >>>> >>>> Why doesn't the list moderator bring these posters back into line? >>>> >>>> Furthermore, am I now using the right subject line? >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>>  Peter Evans >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> =================== >>>> Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/ >>>> powyslist.htm >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS- >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> >>> =================== >>> Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/ >>> powyslist.htm >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS- >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> =================== >> Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Well said, Alison! Have a Happy Christmas. Ann. --- On Mon, 20/12/10, Alison Bryan <[email protected]> wrote: From: Alison Bryan <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [POWYS] errant posters To: [email protected] Date: Monday, 20 December, 2010, 20:25 For what it is worth, I hate with a passion heavy handed administrators of lists.  The more heavy handed a moderator is - I just leave a list and never post.  It has already happened with some lists in Wales.  I do understand the juggling act that goes on, I've moderated several lists for 12 years (one of which has 9k subcribers), but that does not excuse.  Family history is supposed to be fun! As a general rule - you want to be encouraging people to post.  Sure, headings are helpful ... but not at the expense of being a dictator. Other things get in the way - like the way Gmail sorts postings by threads. Someone breaks a rule and they're not harming anyone else ... so what! We can try next time, but nothing to get worked up about.  There's much bigger fish to fry in life.  Within rigid rules, you could have lost some very valuable information. Best wishes, Alison =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I got mine from that huge online bookstore based in Swansea, I think. If not then try ABE boooks. Ann. --- On Mon, 20/12/10, Eliz Hanebury <[email protected]> wrote: From: Eliz Hanebury <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [POWYS] Powys List Activity or lack of same- and a question about occupations To: [email protected] Date: Monday, 20 December, 2010, 23:40 If I can find it, it sounds perfect, thanks Eliz On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Mike Cox <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Eliz. > > I'd recommend: `Hope and Heartbreak, A social history of Wales and > the Welsh, 1776-1871,` Russell Davies, University of Wales Press, > ISBN 0-7083-1932-7. Entertaining as well as informative and instructive. > > Heddwch > > Mike. > > Mike Llywelyn Cox > [email protected] > http://www.ppeyes.org.uk > http://micoxpplog.blogspot.com > A NSUN (http://www.nsun.org.uk) member > A http://www.solnetwork.org.uk member. > Family History www.wotashower.co.uk > > On 19 Dec 2010, at 22:24, Eliz Hanebury wrote: > >> It really is up to us to find things we want to know that might be >> "general knowledge", topics that several people are interested in. I >> joined this list in hope of perhaps coming across my 2Xggf whose place >> of birth is totally unknown to me. There are three possibles found in >> LDS records so I am trying to straddle Wales <G> His son, my ggf, >> married a woman whose family was born and several generations deep in >> Merthyr, I can find more to mine there. >> >> I check all messages, because we keep replying to "Digest" and >> forgetting to change the subject <G> so I find items others might not. >> >> I really would like to find out more about economics in Wales and life >> style in various areas, but Wm R Davis was in the US by 1851 having >> been born in 1816 so the more modern items I read with interest but >> <G> they aren't much USE except to let me know how things were. >> >> Wm R Davis (or Davies who knows) was a blacksmith, my Merthyr family >> were iron workers, were there other fairly industrial areas in Wales >> in the 1830-40 era? >> >> >> >> Eliz >> >> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Peter Evans >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hello All, >>> >>>> >>>> With Christmas intervening, it's unlikely there will be a >>>> significant >>>> increase in list activity in December, but we live in hope! >>> >>> One of the reasons, from my point of view, for not being active in >>> this list >>> is that I don't see much meaningful activity. I look at the >>> subject and >>> quickly decide whether it is worth opening up the message. I >>> subscribe to >>> many lists. >>> >>> I recently started a thread with the subject Montgomeryshire Quarter >>> Sessions... >>> >>> There were some excellent replies. >>> >>> However, this morning, I looked at the subject: POWYS Digest, Vol >>> 5, Issue >>> 343. I do not, as a rule, read any subject with a subject line >>> like this. >>> The only reason I saw it was it happened to be at the top of the >>> list of >>> incoming messages. >>> >>> I was surprised to find a discussion on a totally different >>> subject: yes, >>> you guessed it - Montgomeryshire Quarter Sessions. >>> >>> Do people realise that it is highly likely that their message will >>> never >>> been seen in the list archives? >>> >>> Why doesn't the list moderator bring these posters back into line? >>> >>> Furthermore, am I now using the right subject line? >>> >>> Regards, >>>  Peter Evans >>> >>> >>> >>> =================== >>> Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/ >>> powyslist.htm >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS- >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> =================== >> Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/ >> powyslist.htm >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS- >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, Robert, Beulah Chapel has been done, Contact me privately, if you wish. Hilary _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Price Sent: 21 December 2010 01:53 To: [email protected] Subject: [POWYS] Beulah Chapel, Beulah Breconshire Hello All, I was wondering if anyone knows if the Beulah Chapel graveyard in Beulah Powys has ever had a monumental survey done?? In the same area there is/was a Chapel/Church by the name of Eglwys Oen Duw in/by Beulah. Does anyone know what denomination this Church was?? Merry Christmas to everyone!! Thank you John and everyone at the Powys FHS that spend so much time helping us with our family history adventures. Kind Regards Robert Price =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3328 - Release Date: 12/20/10

Hi Robert Eglwys Oen Duw is a 'Church in Wales' previously the 'Church of England' this was built in 1865. Records at the NLW Baptisms 1866-1987; Marriages 1867-1971; Burials 1875-1987. Merry Christmas Lloyd ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Price" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 1:53 AM Subject: [POWYS] Beulah Chapel, Beulah Breconshire Hello All, I was wondering if anyone knows if the Beulah Chapel graveyard in Beulah Powys has ever had a monumental survey done?? In the same area there is/was a Chapel/Church by the name of Eglwys Oen Duw in/by Beulah. Does anyone know what denomination this Church was?? Merry Christmas to everyone!! Thank you John and everyone at the Powys FHS that spend so much time helping us with our family history adventures. Kind Regards Robert Price =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I agree (too much nit picking that is). And it wasn't 'the antipodes' where feathers were ruffled. It was only in Australia - a minor part of the antipodes... As Kiwis we are used to ignoring the ruffling and huffling that goes on across the ditch! My thanks also to the administrators and helpers on this site. Whilst we are sweltering in Christmas heat, we are thinking of you poor frozen souls up there. I hope you are not at Heathrow waiting, and waiting... Best wishes for the coming year. John -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ilene Jones Sent: Tuesday, 21 December 2010 9:22 a.m. To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [POWYS] errant posters I think there is a little too much nit picking going on here. So, someone makes a mistake. We are only human and not perfect. Let it go. Be thankful for what we have in our great administrators and helpers on this site. Ilene Jones [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ronald Smith Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 12:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [POWYS] errant posters Dear List, My offering re Quarter Sessions (Topic No.1 in Powys Digest, Vol 5, Issue 345 ), sent in response to the cry for help raised by Mary Harding in Issue 343, seems to have ruffled a few feathers, particularly in the antipodes. What a shame that I, a first-time poster, didn't fully understand the correct procedure for responding. I have to tell you that I was not brought up with computers, and the jargon used in 'instructions', etc, sometimes leaves me reeling. Nonetheless, in replying to Mary's post, I quoted what was shown as the 'subject' in her message. Even if both she and I were at fault, it is worth pointing out that I was responding to her message in Vol.5, Issue 343, which asked for information on the subject of 'Quarter Sessions.' The subject of Montgomeryshire didn't arise. Despite all this, I remain a faithful reader of the Digest, and send my sincere thanks to John Ball (and associates) for the work that goes into this business. Kind regards, Ronald Smith =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Seth, If you go to the 'Old Maps' website and search for 'Builth Wells' that will give you a map of Builth. Re-centre the map on the River Irfon about 300 metres south of Irfon Bridge, select the 1889-91 map of Breconshire and you will see the corn mill at Nant-yr-Arian with a row of cottages leading down the hill to it. http://www.old-maps.co.uk/index.html In Google maps you can search on 'Nantyarion' and get a street view of the cottages - which are still there: and very pretty too. I'll send you a couple of images off list. And to everyone else on the list - a very happy Christmas and New Year with especial thanks to John Ball for his endless hard work, patience and courtesy. Thanks John. Regards Dave in Oz Hi I had a relation who lived on Mill Street Nantyarian, just outside Builth (now spelt Nantyarion) in 1861 and 1871. I think that there was a row of cottages, with my ancestor being on the end, marked as being adjacent to a mill. I think the cottages would have been built in 18th century. I wonder whether anybody has any further ideas for sources of information on the Mill and the spot. I do not know if the mill or cottages still stand - though I suspect they may. The mill would be on the Irfon just a tiny distance south of Builth. Any suggestions appreciated. Seth Crook

Thanks Dave. Good, I had thought that this row would surely be the one. I couldn't see how Mill street could be anything other than this row since it was adjacent to the Mill. Images welcome... seth -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave Matthews Sent: 20 December 2010 20:35 To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [POWYS] Old Mill of Builth, Nantyarion? Hi Seth, If you go to the 'Old Maps' website and search for 'Builth Wells' that will give you a map of Builth. Re-centre the map on the River Irfon about 300 metres south of Irfon Bridge, select the 1889-91 map of Breconshire and you will see the corn mill at Nant-yr-Arian with a row of cottages leading down the hill to it. http://www.old-maps.co.uk/index.html In Google maps you can search on 'Nantyarion' and get a street view of the cottages - which are still there: and very pretty too. I'll send you a couple of images off list. And to everyone else on the list - a very happy Christmas and New Year with especial thanks to John Ball for his endless hard work, patience and courtesy. Thanks John. Regards Dave in Oz Hi I had a relation who lived on Mill Street Nantyarian, just outside Builth (now spelt Nantyarion) in 1861 and 1871. I think that there was a row of cottages, with my ancestor being on the end, marked as being adjacent to a mill. I think the cottages would have been built in 18th century. I wonder whether anybody has any further ideas for sources of information on the Mill and the spot. I do not know if the mill or cottages still stand - though I suspect they may. The mill would be on the Irfon just a tiny distance south of Builth. Any suggestions appreciated. Seth Crook =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

For what it is worth, I hate with a passion heavy handed administrators of lists. The more heavy handed a moderator is - I just leave a list and never post. It has already happened with some lists in Wales. I do understand the juggling act that goes on, I've moderated several lists for 12 years (one of which has 9k subcribers), but that does not excuse. Family history is supposed to be fun! As a general rule - you want to be encouraging people to post. Sure, headings are helpful ... but not at the expense of being a dictator. Other things get in the way - like the way Gmail sorts postings by threads. Someone breaks a rule and they're not harming anyone else ... so what! We can try next time, but nothing to get worked up about. There's much bigger fish to fry in life. Within rigid rules, you could have lost some very valuable information. Best wishes, Alison

Dear List, My offering re Quarter Sessions (Topic No.1 in Powys Digest, Vol 5, Issue 345 ), sent in response to the cry for help raised by Mary Harding in Issue 343, seems to have ruffled a few feathers, particularly in the antipodes. What a shame that I, a first-time poster, didn't fully understand the correct procedure for responding. I have to tell you that I was not brought up with computers, and the jargon used in 'instructions', etc, sometimes leaves me reeling. Nonetheless, in replying to Mary's post, I quoted what was shown as the 'subject' in her message. Even if both she and I were at fault, it is worth pointing out that I was responding to her message in Vol.5, Issue 343, which asked for information on the subject of 'Quarter Sessions.' The subject of Montgomeryshire didn't arise. Despite all this, I remain a faithful reader of the Digest, and send my sincere thanks to John Ball (and associates) for the work that goes into this business. Kind regards, Ronald Smith

If I can find it, it sounds perfect, thanks Eliz On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Mike Cox <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Eliz. > > I'd recommend: `Hope and Heartbreak, A social history of Wales and > the Welsh, 1776-1871,` Russell Davies, University of Wales Press, > ISBN 0-7083-1932-7. Entertaining as well as informative and instructive. > > Heddwch > > Mike. > > Mike Llywelyn Cox > [email protected] > http://www.ppeyes.org.uk > http://micoxpplog.blogspot.com > A NSUN (http://www.nsun.org.uk) member > A http://www.solnetwork.org.uk member. > Family History www.wotashower.co.uk > > On 19 Dec 2010, at 22:24, Eliz Hanebury wrote: > >> It really is up to us to find things we want to know that might be >> "general knowledge", topics that several people are interested in. I >> joined this list in hope of perhaps coming across my 2Xggf whose place >> of birth is totally unknown to me. There are three possibles found in >> LDS records so I am trying to straddle Wales <G> His son, my ggf, >> married a woman whose family was born and several generations deep in >> Merthyr, I can find more to mine there. >> >> I check all messages, because we keep replying to "Digest" and >> forgetting to change the subject <G> so I find items others might not. >> >> I really would like to find out more about economics in Wales and life >> style in various areas, but Wm R Davis was in the US by 1851 having >> been born in 1816 so the more modern items I read with interest but >> <G> they aren't much USE except to let me know how things were. >> >> Wm R Davis (or Davies who knows) was a blacksmith, my Merthyr family >> were iron workers, were there other fairly industrial areas in Wales >> in the 1830-40 era? >> >> >> >> Eliz >> >> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Peter Evans >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hello All, >>> >>>> >>>> With Christmas intervening, it's unlikely there will be a >>>> significant >>>> increase in list activity in December, but we live in hope! >>> >>> One of the reasons, from my point of view, for not being active in >>> this list >>> is that I don't see much meaningful activity. I look at the >>> subject and >>> quickly decide whether it is worth opening up the message. I >>> subscribe to >>> many lists. >>> >>> I recently started a thread with the subject Montgomeryshire Quarter >>> Sessions... >>> >>> There were some excellent replies. >>> >>> However, this morning, I looked at the subject: POWYS Digest, Vol >>> 5, Issue >>> 343. I do not, as a rule, read any subject with a subject line >>> like this. >>> The only reason I saw it was it happened to be at the top of the >>> list of >>> incoming messages. >>> >>> I was surprised to find a discussion on a totally different >>> subject: yes, >>> you guessed it - Montgomeryshire Quarter Sessions. >>> >>> Do people realise that it is highly likely that their message will >>> never >>> been seen in the list archives? >>> >>> Why doesn't the list moderator bring these posters back into line? >>> >>> Furthermore, am I now using the right subject line? >>> >>> Regards, >>>  Peter Evans >>> >>> >>> >>> =================== >>> Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/ >>> powyslist.htm >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS- >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> =================== >> Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/ >> powyslist.htm >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS- >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello All, I was wondering if anyone knows if the Beulah Chapel graveyard in Beulah Powys has ever had a monumental survey done??  In the same area there is/was a Chapel/Church by the name of Eglwys Oen Duw in/by Beulah. Does anyone know what denomination this Church was?? Merry Christmas to everyone!! Thank you John and everyone at the Powys FHS that spend so much time helping us with our family history adventures. Kind Regards Robert Price

Hello Eliz. I'd recommend: `Hope and Heartbreak, A social history of Wales and the Welsh, 1776-1871,` Russell Davies, University of Wales Press, ISBN 0-7083-1932-7. Entertaining as well as informative and instructive. Heddwch Mike. Mike Llywelyn Cox [email protected] http://www.ppeyes.org.uk http://micoxpplog.blogspot.com A NSUN (http://www.nsun.org.uk) member A http://www.solnetwork.org.uk member. Family History www.wotashower.co.uk On 19 Dec 2010, at 22:24, Eliz Hanebury wrote: > It really is up to us to find things we want to know that might be > "general knowledge", topics that several people are interested in. I > joined this list in hope of perhaps coming across my 2Xggf whose place > of birth is totally unknown to me. There are three possibles found in > LDS records so I am trying to straddle Wales <G> His son, my ggf, > married a woman whose family was born and several generations deep in > Merthyr, I can find more to mine there. > > I check all messages, because we keep replying to "Digest" and > forgetting to change the subject <G> so I find items others might not. > > I really would like to find out more about economics in Wales and life > style in various areas, but Wm R Davis was in the US by 1851 having > been born in 1816 so the more modern items I read with interest but > <G> they aren't much USE except to let me know how things were. > > Wm R Davis (or Davies who knows) was a blacksmith, my Merthyr family > were iron workers, were there other fairly industrial areas in Wales > in the 1830-40 era? > > > > Eliz > > On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Peter Evans > <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hello All, >> >>> >>> With Christmas intervening, it's unlikely there will be a >>> significant >>> increase in list activity in December, but we live in hope! >> >> One of the reasons, from my point of view, for not being active in >> this list >> is that I don't see much meaningful activity. I look at the >> subject and >> quickly decide whether it is worth opening up the message. I >> subscribe to >> many lists. >> >> I recently started a thread with the subject Montgomeryshire Quarter >> Sessions... >> >> There were some excellent replies. >> >> However, this morning, I looked at the subject: POWYS Digest, Vol >> 5, Issue >> 343. I do not, as a rule, read any subject with a subject line >> like this. >> The only reason I saw it was it happened to be at the top of the >> list of >> incoming messages. >> >> I was surprised to find a discussion on a totally different >> subject: yes, >> you guessed it - Montgomeryshire Quarter Sessions. >> >> Do people realise that it is highly likely that their message will >> never >> been seen in the list archives? >> >> Why doesn't the list moderator bring these posters back into line? >> >> Furthermore, am I now using the right subject line? >> >> Regards, >> Peter Evans >> >> >> >> =================== >> Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/ >> powyslist.htm >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS- >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/ > powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to POWYS- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Isn't calling Oz a "minor part" Fighting words?? LOL Please Ronald post, the more you post the more you (and we) learn. As I keep saying I am only on this list trawling for my 2Xggf and I have no extra knowledge of the area. I would love to hear more of the economics of the area. I would love to see the posting of old or new obits that pertain to people from the area. I must be driving some people nuts with my Malmesbury posts but by gosh I have the information (there was a huge Malmesbury and surrounding villages emigration to Cleveland Ohio and every time I fall over one,) I post it. I have searched the death certificates with the term Malmesbury and then I misspell it wildly but not as creatively as the recorders <G> If there is a town in the area you want to try http://dxsrv4.cpl.org is the Necrology put together by the Cleveland Public Library and cpl.org will let you get to it. I just found these pathetic two using Merthyr: Id#: 0604051 Name: Lewis, Mrs. Elizabeth E. Date: Jul 6 1957 Source: Cleveland Press; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #129. Notes: Services for Mrs. Elizabeth E. Lewis were held today in the Rinear Funeral Home, 13136 Euclid Ave., East Cleveland. Burial was in Lake View Cemetery. She was 92 at her death Wednesday. Mrs. Lewis died in the home of a daughter, Mrs. Margaret Baldwin, of 1372 Noble Rd., Cleveland Heights, with whom she resided. Born in Merthyr Tydfil, Wales, Mrs. Lewis was brought to this country when she was four by her parents, the late Mr. and Mrs. Thomas Davies. She was married to William G. Lewis, a steelworker, in the early 1890's. He died more than 40 years ago. Mrs. Lewis had served as an officer of the local chapter of the Women's Christian Temperance Union. She belonged to Euclid Avenue Baptist Church for more than 40. She is survived by two daughters, Mrs. Edward Kemper and Mrs. Baldwin; two sons, A. Wayne of Fond du Lac, Wis., and William G. of Detroit; a brother, David A. Davies; two sisters, Mrs. Rachel Miller and Miss Jennie Davies; three grandchildren and a great-grandson. Id#: 0508923 Name: Furlong, Annie Date: Mar 7 1958 Source: Cleveland Press; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #110. Notes: Furlong, Annie (nee Collins), beloved wife of Laurence (deceased), dear mother of Laurence Jr. (deceased), Nancy and Mrs. Peggy Otting, grandmother of Lynn, Larry and Peggy Ann, passed away suddenly Wednesday, Mar. 5th, at South Wales, England, Burial at Merthyr Tydvit, South Wales. Memorial mass Saturday, 8 a. m., at Our Lady of Fatima Church. Eliz (who tries to trim her posts but sometimes forgets *G*) On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 3:34 PM, John Hopkins <[email protected]> wrote: > I agree (too much nit picking that is). And it wasn't 'the antipodes' where > feathers were ruffled. It was only in Australia - a minor part of the > antipodes... As Kiwis we are used to ignoring the ruffling and huffling that > goes on across the ditch! > > My thanks also to the administrators and helpers on this site. Whilst we are > sweltering in Christmas heat, we are thinking of you poor frozen souls up > there.  I hope you are not at Heathrow waiting, and waiting... > > Best wishes for the coming year. > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Ilene Jones > Sent: Tuesday, 21 December 2010 9:22 a.m. > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [POWYS] errant posters > > I think there is a little too much nit picking going on here.  So, someone > makes a mistake.  We are only human and not perfect.  Let it go.  Be > thankful for what we have in our great administrators and helpers on this > site. > > Ilene Jones > [email protected] > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Ronald Smith > Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 12:42 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [POWYS] errant posters > > Dear List, > >               My offering re Quarter Sessions  (Topic No.1 in Powys Digest, > Vol 5,  Issue 345 ),  sent in response to the cry for help raised by Mary > Harding in Issue 343,  seems to have ruffled a few feathers,  particularly > in the antipodes.     What a shame that I,  a first-time poster,  didn't

Hi I had a relation who lived on Mill Street Nantyarian, just outside Builth (now spelt Nantyarion) in 1861 and 1871. I think that there was a row of cottages, with my ancestor being on the end, marked as being adjacent to a mill. I think the cottages would have been built in 18th century. I wonder whether anybody has any further ideas for sources of information on the Mill and the spot. I do not know if the mill or cottages still stand - though I suspect they may. The mill would be on the Irfon just a tiny distance south of Builth. Any suggestions appreciated. Seth Crook