Dear John. I hope you and yours have a very wonderful holiday. At 92 I am still doing my genealogy and am having an article called The utlimate hobby published in our Allegany magazine in Feb. I hope it will lead others to trace their family trees. I am stillon the Powys list and enjoy it very much. Please keep up the good work you do and God Bess. Virginia ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Ball" <[email protected]> To: "Powys List" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 24, 2010 9:57 AM Subject: [POWYS] Season's Greetings from List Admin > Dear Listers, > > I hope all have a wonderful time over this festive season, and have great > success with and enjoyment from your family history research in the New > Year. > Let's hope the Powys List will be maintain its great reputation in 2011. > > All the best, > > > John > > -------------------- > John Ball, Brecon, Mid-Wales, UK > E-mail: [email protected] > Joint Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) RootsWeb mailing lists > > John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/ > Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/ > Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/ > GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ > Brecknock FH Group Webmaster: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wlsbfhs/ > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: > www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

I don't know about the email but 411.com shows him as William V Barker same address as below. Eliz On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 5:54 AM, Steve Trow <[email protected]> wrote: > On 23 Dec 2010, at 20:00, John Ball wrote: >> Many thanks for your reply, Dennis. >> >> Could you let listers know (once again) how to order Bill Barker's >> "Montgomeryshire Families" CD. There may be a number of recent >> Powys List >> members who've not come across this resource before. >> >> Thanks again, >> >> >> John > > Hello Listers > > It's 3 years since I got my copy of the Bill Barker CD so it might be > an idea to check first that the email address I have for him is still > current... > [email protected] > > Here's the email he sent me at the time: > > "Thank you for your interest in my CD book on Welsh genealogy > "Families of > Montgomeryshire, Wales 1675 to 1825"   Information on this genealogy > product is provided below. > > The book "Families of Montgomershire, Wales 1675 to 1825", a > genealogical > compendium by William V.H. Barker, is available as ASCII computer > readable text, recorded on Compact Disk (CD) for IBM-compatible PC > and Apple Macintosh home computers.  The book on CD contains an > introduction file, a contents file, and about 556 files on major > families and other individuals (by parish in Montgomeryshire).  The > CD files. which are meant to be read by the user's word processing > software, are in Microsoft's Rich Text Format (files have ".RTF" > extension and can be read by Microsoft Works, Microsoft Word, and > most other word processors).  At present the book on CD is the > equivalent of about 4,613 pages typewritten.  No paper printout is > supplied with the CD; it being left to the user to print desired > pages for themselves. > > If you are interested in ordering this CD (current version is April > 2001) on > "Families of Montgomershire, Wales 1675 to 1825", please use the > following > order form (or an equivalent copy).  Payment may be made in US > dollars or UK pounds sterling.  Thank you for your interest. > > Bill Barker > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >           ORDER FORM for "Montgomeryshire Families" on CD-ROM > > Name: >       ----------------------------------- > addr: >       ----------------------------------- > >       ----------------------------------- > > Please indicate here that you agree that the book on CD is for your > use only > and will not be distributed to any others:          (Yes, if agree) > > Price - to USA address: $20.00;  to non-USA address: $22.00 (or 14.00 > U.K. pounds sterling). This price includes postage and handling. > Connecticut residents please add 6% sales tax. > > Send order to: Bill Barker, >                        2903 Northampton Drive >                        Greensboro, NC 27408  USA > > Please enclose payment, payable to "Bill Barker", with order.  Thank > you." > > > > > > > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone on the Powys list. May we all continue to help each other in the years to come.   Yours. Ann. --- On Fri, 24/12/10, D JONES <[email protected]> wrote: From: D JONES <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [POWYS] Merry Xmas To: [email protected] Date: Friday, 24 December, 2010, 9:58 Merry Christmas Chris Dorothy --- On Fri, 24/12/10, stringer <[email protected]> wrote: From: stringer <[email protected]> Subject: [POWYS] Merry Xmas To: [email protected] Date: Friday, 24 December, 2010, 8:13 Merry Xmas to everyone.Thanks for all the help throughout the year. Chris Stringer New  Zealand =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 23 Dec 2010, at 20:00, John Ball wrote: > Many thanks for your reply, Dennis. > > Could you let listers know (once again) how to order Bill Barker's > "Montgomeryshire Families" CD. There may be a number of recent > Powys List > members who've not come across this resource before. > > Thanks again, > > > John Hello Listers It's 3 years since I got my copy of the Bill Barker CD so it might be an idea to check first that the email address I have for him is still current... [email protected] Here's the email he sent me at the time: "Thank you for your interest in my CD book on Welsh genealogy "Families of Montgomeryshire, Wales 1675 to 1825" Information on this genealogy product is provided below. The book "Families of Montgomershire, Wales 1675 to 1825", a genealogical compendium by William V.H. Barker, is available as ASCII computer readable text, recorded on Compact Disk (CD) for IBM-compatible PC and Apple Macintosh home computers. The book on CD contains an introduction file, a contents file, and about 556 files on major families and other individuals (by parish in Montgomeryshire). The CD files. which are meant to be read by the user's word processing software, are in Microsoft's Rich Text Format (files have ".RTF" extension and can be read by Microsoft Works, Microsoft Word, and most other word processors). At present the book on CD is the equivalent of about 4,613 pages typewritten. No paper printout is supplied with the CD; it being left to the user to print desired pages for themselves. If you are interested in ordering this CD (current version is April 2001) on "Families of Montgomershire, Wales 1675 to 1825", please use the following order form (or an equivalent copy). Payment may be made in US dollars or UK pounds sterling. Thank you for your interest. Bill Barker ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ORDER FORM for "Montgomeryshire Families" on CD-ROM Name: ----------------------------------- addr: ----------------------------------- ----------------------------------- Please indicate here that you agree that the book on CD is for your use only and will not be distributed to any others: (Yes, if agree) Price - to USA address: $20.00; to non-USA address: $22.00 (or 14.00 U.K. pounds sterling). This price includes postage and handling. Connecticut residents please add 6% sales tax. Send order to: Bill Barker, 2903 Northampton Drive Greensboro, NC 27408 USA Please enclose payment, payable to "Bill Barker", with order. Thank you."

Merry Christmas Chris Dorothy --- On Fri, 24/12/10, stringer <[email protected]> wrote: From: stringer <[email protected]> Subject: [POWYS] Merry Xmas To: [email protected] Date: Friday, 24 December, 2010, 8:13 Merry Xmas to everyone.Thanks for all the help throughout the year. Chris Stringer New  Zealand =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Merry Christmas and very best wishes for 2011 to all on the Powys list. Take care and keep safe Shirley

Dennis Cleaton [email protected] wrote: There are many Cleatons on the Bill Barker CD for MGY Familes 1675-1825, all very good with 550 other records that I can lend you... =================== Many thanks for your reply, Dennis. Could you let listers know (once again) how to order Bill Barker's "Montgomeryshire Families" CD. There may be a number of recent Powys List members who've not come across this resource before. Thanks again, John -------------------- John Ball, Brecon, Mid-Wales, UK E-mail: [email protected] John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/

Hi Elizabeth I remember a few years ago, someone emailed  a list I was on, asking who SKS was. Dorothy --- On Thu, 23/12/10, Eliz Hanebury <[email protected]> wrote: From: Eliz Hanebury <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [POWYS] Emoticons and lost or hiding family To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, 23 December, 2010, 19:05 Bravo <G> SKS used to be in very common usage on Roots lists, many messages began Could SKS...

For sure! And the time it takes to take a penknife to your quill and reshape it, and the years when you had to make your own ink! Holy Cow we are lucky to have any written documents! eliz On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 11:25 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > I think the directions to catch a goose before you start writing would be > to pluck some feathers for a quill pen. I read somewhere that abbreviations > possibly came about in order to save time and ink. Saving ink, translates > into  saving money. > > Jim > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

LOL Yes, sometimes I think we aren't sharing enough <G> all of that used to be an internet culture and maybe it is time to make sure it stays that way <>G Eliz On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 2:51 PM, D JONES <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Elizabeth > > I remember a few years ago, someone emailed  a list I was on, asking who SKS was. > > > Dorothy > --- On Thu, 23/12/10, Eliz Hanebury <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: Eliz Hanebury <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [POWYS] Emoticons and lost or hiding family > To: [email protected] > Date: Thursday, 23 December, 2010, 19:05 > > Bravo <G> SKS used to be in very common usage on Roots lists, many > messages began Could SKS... > > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Apologies to all for mis-spelled words, which can be considered insulting or just plain careless; since neither is my style, please let me correct my error. Particular 'sorry' to Clive GARDENER for mis-spelling your surname, Clive; and apologies to Wales (and Clive) for incorrectly spelling LLANGATTOCK. Merry Christmas, Dawn (Tasmania)

SKS - Some Kind Soul Lona ----- Original Message ----- From: "D JONES" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [POWYS] Emoticons and lost or hiding family Hi Elizabeth I remember a few years ago, someone emailed a list I was on, asking who SKS was. Dorothy --- On Thu, 23/12/10, Eliz Hanebury <[email protected]> wrote: From: Eliz Hanebury <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [POWYS] Emoticons and lost or hiding family To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, 23 December, 2010, 19:05 Bravo <G> SKS used to be in very common usage on Roots lists, many messages began Could SKS... =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

SKS = Some Kind Soul! Simple when you know! Happy Christmas! David Spark -----Original Message----- From: D JONES Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 9:53 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [POWYS] Emoticons and lost or hiding family Hi everyone I have a brick wall too. John JONES born 1816 in Ruabon. Possible parents John and Elizabeth. Married Miriam ROBERTS from Pen Y Cae in c1837. They had daughter Hannah born c1838 and a son John born c1842 before mioving to Stoke On Trent where I found them in the 18951 census. What I am trying to do is locate the family in the 1841 census but I beleive the 184 census for Ruabon is none existent. I am not trying to trace John and Miriam's births, and their families prior to 1841. Can SKS help at all? I'll leave wold be abreviatins enthusiast to work that one out LOL Here's wishing you a very merry Christmas (HIC, pass me the bottle) and a Happy New Year. Dorothy =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bravo <G> SKS used to be in very common usage on Roots lists, many messages began Could SKS... Happy Christmas to all and good weather to follow! Eliz On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 9:08 AM, David Spark <[email protected]> wrote: > SKS = Some Kind Soul! > > Simple when you know! > > Happy Christmas! > > David Spark > > -----Original Message----- > From: D JONES > Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 9:53 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [POWYS] Emoticons and lost or hiding family > > Hi everyone > > I have a brick wall too. John JONES born 1816 in Ruabon. Possible parents > John and Elizabeth. Married Miriam ROBERTS from Pen  Y Cae in c1837. They > had daughter Hannah born c1838 and a son John born c1842 before mioving to > Stoke On Trent where I found them in the 18951 census. What I am trying to > do is locate the family in the 1841 census but I beleive the 184 census for > Ruabon is none existent. I am not trying to trace John and Miriam's births, > and their families prior to 1841. Can SKS help at all? > > I'll leave wold be abreviatins enthusiast to work that one out LOL > > Here's wishing you a very merry Christmas (HIC, pass me the bottle) and a > Happy New Year. > > Dorothy > > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Well said, Ruth, Lloyd will be a very hard act to follow. With very best Christmas wishes to Lloyd, John Ball and all Listers. Hilary _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 23 December 2010 12:28 To: [email protected] Subject: [POWYS] Lloyd Lewis's last Cronicl Dear Listers As many list members are also members of the Powys FHS, I hope it is in order to use the list to express hearty thanks, congratulations and good wishes to Lloyd Lewis, who is stepping down as Editor of Cronicl, after 11 years and 32 issues of the Journal. He has done a splendid job producing three highly readable issues a year, and contributing many interesting articles and photos himself. I see that he recently received another Elizabeth Simpson Award, one of many presented to him over the years in recognition of the high standard of the Journal. He has also personally helped numerous individuals to make progress with their Family History. Lloyd will be a hard act to follow, but maybe some list member may want to consider taking on the Editorship next year. (Perhaps a recently retired person, with a keen interest in Family History and IT skills?) I hope there is someone out there willing to take on this valuable role, and maintain the traditions of the Society's Journal. All good wishes for Christmas and the New Year to you, Lloyd, and to all Listers. Ruth =================== Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3332 - Release Date: 12/22/10

It might be of interest to know that many of the Powysland Club Mont. Colls are available on line. Try the following by cutting and pasting to your menu bar: http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22Powys-Land%20Club%22 Merry Christmas to All David Stick On 23 Dec 2010, at 09:15, John Ball wrote: > Dear Dennis, > > Good to hear from you again. > > Recently, I've been studying some of the 'Montgomeryshire Collections' > published by the Powysland Club looking for references to Griffiths families > in Llanidloes and Llandinam in the early 19th century. While reading an > article on Llanidloes in Volume 5 yesterday, I came across a reference to a > Mr Edmund Cleaton who built the 'Glyn Factory' circa 1838. Tha factory was: > "on the left bank of the Clywedog . . . on a piece of land leased from Mr > Mytton of Pen-y-lan. It has been enlarged on more than one occasion, and is > now [1878] one of the largest and most commodious mills in the > neighbourhood, fitted up with machinery for all purposes connected with the > manufacturing and finishing of flannel. A large fulling mill, and cottages > for the work people are attached. It now forms part of the Welsh Flannel and > Tweed Company." > There are several other references to Edmund Cleaton in the pages following > the above quote. He seems to have been an important man in Llanidloes in the > mis 19th century. > > I wondered if you know about this Edmund Cleaton, and whether he is a > relative of yours? > > The full citation for the above reference is: > "A Parochial Account of Llanidloes" (Chapter 2), by Edward Hamer, in > "Collections Historical and Archaeological Relating to Montgomeryshire - > Volume 5", published by the Powysland Club, London 1872; page 39 et seq. > > A full set of these early Montgomeryshire Collections is held by Newtown > Public Library and probably other libraries in Powys. The holdings of most > Welsh libraries can be searched online through Cat Cymru - > http://library.wales.org/catcymru/ > -----Quote------ > Cat Cymru (beta) brings together publicly accessible library catalogues from > all across Wales into a single search. By entering a term in the search box > you can choose to look for all kinds of material in any of the Public, > Higher Education or Further Education Libraries or libraries in a particular > region. > ----Unquote---- > > But note that the Cat Cymru service will not be available over the > Christmas/New Year period (from 24 December to 5 January). > > Kind regards and best wishes for Christmas, > > > John > > -------------------- > John Ball, Brecon, Mid-Wales, UK > E-mail: [email protected] > John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/ > Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/ > Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/ > > GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ > Brecknock FH Group Webmaster: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wlsbfhs/ > Joint Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) RootsWeb mailing lists > > > =================== > Visit the Powys Mailing List webpage at: www.jlb2005.plus.com/powyslist.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I think the directions to catch a goose before you start writing would be to pluck some feathers for a quill pen. I read somewhere that abbreviations possibly came about in order to save time and ink. Saving ink, translates into saving money. Jim

Hi everyone I have a brick wall too. John JONES born 1816 in Ruabon. Possible parents John and Elizabeth. Married Miriam ROBERTS from Pen  Y Cae in c1837. They had daughter Hannah born c1838 and a son John born c1842 before mioving to Stoke On Trent where I found them in the 18951 census. What I am trying to do is locate the family in the 1841 census but I beleive the 184 census for Ruabon is none existent. I am not trying to trace John and Miriam's births, and their families prior to 1841. Can SKS help at all? I'll leave wold be abreviatins enthusiast to work that one out LOL Here's wishing you a very merry Christmas (HIC, pass me the bottle) and a Happy New Year. Dorothy 

Dear Dennis, Good to hear from you again. Recently, I've been studying some of the 'Montgomeryshire Collections' published by the Powysland Club looking for references to Griffiths families in Llanidloes and Llandinam in the early 19th century. While reading an article on Llanidloes in Volume 5 yesterday, I came across a reference to a Mr Edmund Cleaton who built the 'Glyn Factory' circa 1838. Tha factory was: "on the left bank of the Clywedog . . . on a piece of land leased from Mr Mytton of Pen-y-lan. It has been enlarged on more than one occasion, and is now [1878] one of the largest and most commodious mills in the neighbourhood, fitted up with machinery for all purposes connected with the manufacturing and finishing of flannel. A large fulling mill, and cottages for the work people are attached. It now forms part of the Welsh Flannel and Tweed Company." There are several other references to Edmund Cleaton in the pages following the above quote. He seems to have been an important man in Llanidloes in the mis 19th century. I wondered if you know about this Edmund Cleaton, and whether he is a relative of yours? The full citation for the above reference is: "A Parochial Account of Llanidloes" (Chapter 2), by Edward Hamer, in "Collections Historical and Archaeological Relating to Montgomeryshire - Volume 5", published by the Powysland Club, London 1872; page 39 et seq. A full set of these early Montgomeryshire Collections is held by Newtown Public Library and probably other libraries in Powys. The holdings of most Welsh libraries can be searched online through Cat Cymru - http://library.wales.org/catcymru/ -----Quote------ Cat Cymru (beta) brings together publicly accessible library catalogues from all across Wales into a single search. By entering a term in the search box you can choose to look for all kinds of material in any of the Public, Higher Education or Further Education Libraries or libraries in a particular region. ----Unquote---- But note that the Cat Cymru service will not be available over the Christmas/New Year period (from 24 December to 5 January). Kind regards and best wishes for Christmas, John -------------------- John Ball, Brecon, Mid-Wales, UK E-mail: [email protected] John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/ Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/ GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ Brecknock FH Group Webmaster: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wlsbfhs/ Joint Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) RootsWeb mailing lists

Dear Listers As many list members are also members of the Powys FHS, I hope it is in order to use the list to express hearty thanks, congratulations and good wishes to Lloyd Lewis, who is stepping down as Editor of Cronicl, after 11 years and 32 issues of the Journal. He has done a splendid job producing three highly readable issues a year, and contributing many interesting articles and photos himself. I see that he recently received another Elizabeth Simpson Award, one of many presented to him over the years in recognition of the high standard of the Journal. He has also personally helped numerous individuals to make progress with their Family History. Lloyd will be a hard act to follow, but maybe some list member may want to consider taking on the Editorship next year. (Perhaps a recently retired person, with a keen interest in Family History and IT skills?) I hope there is someone out there willing to take on this valuable role, and maintain the traditions of the Society's Journal. All good wishes for Christmas and the New Year to you, Lloyd, and to all Listers. Ruth